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The Truth’s Report Card: Miami vs. Ohio State

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The following article was contributed by the beloved EOTH blogger, “The Truth”

After a tough loss no one wants to hear about why things happened or how things went down. Nope. People just want to know whose fault it was and how quickly that guy can be replaced.

After a loss the QB sucks, the coach is a moron and fans can be heard jumping off the bandwagon from here to California. There is something that most casual fans do not understand…

Football is a process. A process that starts the day you look behind a facemask for the first time until the day you hang up your cleats. Each practice and every game presents its own set of challenges and with each of those challenges comes another opportunity to get better as a player and coach.

On Saturday the Miami Hurricanes played their biggest game in the last seven years against the Ohio State Buckeyes (I would have written suckeyes or, better, buttguys but I do not want to sound like a sore loser). While the outcome was not exactly what we all hoped it would be, it did give us the opportunity to see how far this team has come since 2007 when Randy Shannon took over as head coach. No matter how they graded out Saturday, this is an opportunity to improve as players individually and as a team…coaches AND fans included.

I saw a team that IS better. That has gotten bigger, faster, stronger and most importantly, more mature (well, aside from a tweet sent before game time…but that’s a blog for another day). I saw a team that, minus the turnovers, was ready to go toe to toe with ANY team in the country.

I intend to grade out the team honestly and with as much respect to the players and their efforts as possible. However, I want to make it clear that I am not taking this as an opportunity to bash any player. This is an honest critique from my perspective and hopefully will give better insight into how the outcome of this particular battle came to be. I do not think anyone should be fired, benched or burned on a cross as a result of the Ohio State game. I hope this game provides the players and coaches with the information they need to become better football players from here throughout the rest of the season.

All of these kids battled, did the very best they could and worked hard to win this football game. But the challenges put forth by a top 2 team, on their own home turf, by a Heisman hopeful quarterback and stout defense proved to be too much.

Part 1 of this report card will cover Offense and Defense.

With that said…

OFFENSE:

Jacory Harris was, in a word, awful. His decision making as a junior QB was atrocious on 3 of his 4 INT’s. The opportunities were there and Harris did not deliver. Travis Benjamin did bobble a sideline pass that resulted in the 3rd of Harris’ 4 picks, but the decisions Harris made on the other 3 INT’s put his team in an impossible position for a positive outcome. His throw to Damien Berry on the Ohio Taint 6 yard line that was intercepted by Cameron Heyward was only half as bad as the decision to throw to Benjamin in Miami territory when TB3 wasn’t even looking at him.

Harris also seemed to lack confidence in what he was seeing from the OSU defense. His balls floated as he overthrew and under threw receivers on several occasions. A junior quarterback, starting his second full season under the same offensive coordinator at the University of Miami should be expected to play much better than Jacory did. The blame isn’t all on Jacory’s shoulders, however.

The WR’s for Miami dropped, according to Randy Shannon, 9 balls in another dismal effort by what is supposed to be the deepest, most prolific group if receivers in the country. TE Chase Ford caught a touchdown pass, but Aldarius  “Glue Hands” Johnson dropped a sure TD after a decent  hit on what was Miami’s best drive of the day.

Even when Jacory was throwing the ball well, bad things were happening.  Whipple and the players failed to adapt to the different defensive looks the Buckeyes were giving them and instead of reacting, the players were over-thinking their every move on the field.

The running backs and offensive line did an adequate job, minus some untimely and annoying penalties by Harland Gunn and Jermaine Johnson and a physically dismal effort by Tyler Horn who was manhandled too many times for my taste. Damien Berry ran hard and well in the 16 carries he was provided. Overall, though, this Jacory Harris led offense produced a grand total of 10 points. And in a game where everyone needed put forth an “A” effort they failed miserably.

GRADE: F

DEFENSE:

It’s going to be hard for me to grade this unit because so much of my heart believes these guys did the best they possibly could given the circumstances that Jacory and the rest of the offense kept putting them into. But if we are going to grade them on what actually happened then this is what needs to be said…

When I think of a Miami defensive football team I am reminded of Dan Morgan, Warren Sapp, Ed Reed, Jerome Brown and Ray Lewis. Guys that tackled, made plays and dictated to the offense what was, and what was NOT going to happen. I saw a valiant effort to contain a good, if not great player, in Terrelle Pryor. But when the Hurricanes needed a big defensive stop this team didn’t deliver. Aside from some nice plays by Sean Spence, Marcus Forston and Brandon Harris this defensive team failed to shut down an offense that was begging to be stopped.

Bottom line: tons of missed tackles and ZERO turnovers.

There were a bunch of tackles for losses but the defenses inability to convert a big time, game changing play – dropped INT’s by Ray Ray Armstrong and Demarcus Van Dyke –  ultimately gave OSU new downs and opportunities to score 36 total points.

Randy Shannon estimated that the Buckeyes picked up 70 yards after the initial contact. That along with no INT’s or forced fumbles equals NOT GOOD ENOUGH despite having 6 of OSU’s scoring drives start in Miami territory.

GRADE: C

Stay tuned for part 2 of The Truth’s report card:  Special Teams and Coaching.

  1. go truth . . . i’ll read it after posting “FIRST”!

  2. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH10) says:

    The Truth shall set you free!

  3. avatar
    Tomahawk Nation says:

    I saw a team that IS better. That has gotten bigger, faster, stronger and most importantly, more mature (well, aside from a tweet sent before game time…but that’s a blog for another day). I saw a team that, minus the turnovers, was ready to go toe to toe with ANY team in the country.

    Seriously, without the last three garbage-time drives Miami’s offense looked like garbage. Less than 4.5 yards per play and no running game.

  4. well done, Truth. I appreciate the effort.

    I really liked how you set the table for grading.

    Nice job.

  5. Tomahawk Nation,

    Let’s keep it clean and remember people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones . . .

  6. Listen pal, all due respect, you don’t have a leg to stand on.

    Don’t do this, please. I’m begging you.

    We’ll deal with you guys next month

  7. I shouldve added the missed INT by spence that would have been a sure TD. But I think that said most of it

  8. I’d also like to add, Truth rated our offense “F.”

    So I’m not sure where the argument is . . .

    We like ‘Noles. I have close ‘Nole friends. We have ‘Nole alumni on here. I always pick you guys with Mary Knows Football.

    Please dude, don’t change our minds. Don’t be that guy. I have such little faith in opposing fans after this weekend in Columbus. Don’t disappoint me and show me ‘Noles are the same as those classless suckeye douchebags.

  9. In the last sentence there should have forced and not foeced

    Sorry…I was typing fast…

  10. I agree with alot of things you wrote but, I don’t think the defense deserves a F grade. They were put in bad positions with short fields all game long and to only give up field goals was actually pretty good. I do think the secondary needs to get better in pass coverage and not allow so many big plays down the field. I do agree about the miss tackles because there were a lot of them out there. As far as Jacory’s decision making of all the INTs thrown the one to the defensive end was a back breaker because we ready to score some points and left alot of points on the table. All that said I always felt this team was a year away and let’s be honesty they lost to number 2 team in country it’s not like they lost to Kansas or James Madison like other ACC teams. The extra time for the Pitt game came at the perfect time. These young men will bounce back though it is only the second game and we have a lot of season left to play. Great post and very insightful.

    Positives : Return game and Offensive line

    Negatives : Missed tackles, Dropped passes, Turnovers, Punt & Kickoff Coverage

  11. Don’t even respond to Tomahawk. Like HE has a LEG to stand on. Are you KIDDING! They got THROTTLED! Please!

  12. I am sorry I saw that wrong you gave the defense a “C” grade and I agree with that.

  13. wow truth . . . an “f” on offense? f = total, abysmal failure . . . is that really what you saw?
    never thought i’d find myself disagreeing with you football-wise . . . and maybe this is because i “watched” the game on computer = i “watched words and not pictures.

    but i had the impression the O gets a c-/d+
    there were a number of good things done during the game (berry balled, for example) even if there were lots of self-destruct moments. and they were playing against a good defense

    statistics wise we were even with ohio . . . better on converting 3rd downs for example.

    defense i don’t know, but c+/b- seems like what i would have given a team that held ohio without a td so often within the red zone, despite the missed tackles & lack of turnovers.

    and yes – please continue to contribute articles! i enjoyed the analysis even if the final grades felt a bit harsh.

  14. The top originally said

    The following article was contributed by the beloved (and devastatingly handsome) EOTH blogger, “The Truth”

    but I thought that might make Truth feel objectified and we are NOT the DYLB

    YL = young lady

    You can fill in the rest.

  15. Tomahawk

    If you actually watched the game you would have seen that there was no garbage time in the game until after OSU knelt down at the end.

    Now I know the garbage time started MUCH “sooner” in Norman so I’ll forgive you if you are confused.

  16. JSQ
    September 14, 2010 at 4:21 PM

    . . . we are NOT the DYLB . . .You can fill in the rest.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    i'm too old for this . . . what does DYLB mean?

  17. I agree with Carl that the O is more C-/D+ because of Berry but it is really hard to give that grade when our WORLD CLASS receivers played like, well, garbage.

    Sorry, it’s true. I love our receivers and think they are the most talented in D1. But Sebastian could have played better than that. I’m disappointed.

    But I have every belief they will get their ish together for Pitt.

  18. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Tomahawk Nation
    September 14, 2010 at 4:12 PM
    I saw a team that IS better. That has gotten bigger, faster, stronger and most importantly, more mature (well, aside from a tweet sent before game time…but that’s a blog for another day). I saw a team that, minus the turnovers, was ready to go toe to toe with ANY team in the country.

    Seriously, without the last three garbage-time drives Miami’s offense looked like garbage. Less than 4.5 yards per play and no running game.

    >>>>>>>>>

    YOUR TEAM WAS BLASTED 47-17 AND NEVER STOOD UP DURING THE ENTIRE GAME AND YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE U???

    YOU FOOLS LOOKED PATHETIC EVERY STEP OF THE WAY. DUMBO LOOKED CLUELESS. STOOPS LOOKED LIKE HE WANTED A PACIFIER AND A BLANKET AND YOUR SENIOR HEISMAN CANDIDATE QB LOOKED WORSE THAN HE DID HIS SOPHOMORE YEAR.

    YOUR PLAYERS DIDN’T GIVE A FUK EITHER…..

    AND YOUR OL LOOKED LIKE A BUNCH OF LIMP-DIK FAGS….

    SO WHAT EXACTLY ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT????

  19. The first 3 drives after half time were garbage time? Go eat a d!ck…

  20. JSQ
    September 14, 2010 at 4:27 PM
    I agree with Carl that the O is more C-/D+ because of Berry but it is really hard to give that grade when our WORLD CLASS receivers played like, well, garbage.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    that was autumn not carl

    speaking of which, didn't you forget to say "nice first autumn".

    i'll forgive you this time.

    and this thing about our world class receivers . . . it's rue, that disappoints me to know we have the best receiver corps and they refuse to play like it.

  21. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Truth, very accurate and well-written.

  22. We throw around a little acronym on here from time to time to describe TOS, autumn – DOMB. First word is “dirty” . . . and so on.

    I was making a play on that by inserting “young lady” instead of “OM” because I thought of saying something that objectified our writer today.

    Truth, I totally respect you for your head, er, I mean your mind. Don’t worry.

  23. “it’s rue,” = its True, not rue

  24. Sorry, autumn.

    Nice first, autumn!

    Welcome back, autumn, we missed you!

    I think I owed you that last one, too.

  25. Cav.

    1o of FSU’s 17 came in GARBAGE time. He’s not worthy of comment. Please! T-H-R-O-T-T-L-E-D is what FSU got this weekend!

  26. Sorry guys, a UNIT that has 4 INTS, NINE dropped passes…2 botched throws that should have been TD’s and 10 points sucks.

    Period.

    These are my Canes. They’re my team. But there is no homersism in that grade. There were some positives but the bottom line is the bottom line.

  27. JSQ
    September 14, 2010 at 4:31 PM
    Sorry, autumn.
    Nice first, autumn!
    Welcome back, autumn, we missed you!
    I think I owed you that last one, too.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<

    thank you.
    apology & niceties accepted.

    its a shame you're too young to remember that great 60's song by donovon:
    "they call me mellow jello"

    damn, anyone remember a word in the first line: "i'm just mad about ____, she's just mad about me . . . " can't remember it and its driving me crazy.

  28. but if anyone (randy maybe?) answers my last post, i’ll have to read it tomorrow; time for bed.

    have fun.

  29. How did the Cane offense look on Labor Day, 2009?

    (Cue sound of Wile E. Coyote falling off a cliff)

    Hey, I see my baby CANEZ1 is back!!

    Bg, did you ever give me your opinion on Jacory, as far as him maximizing his potential with either better coaching, or a simpler scheme?
    I think that he may have hit his ceiling in the pro-set. Not saying that we should adopt the Air Raid or anything, but I think the gun is where we’ll get the most out of him.
    I know that we pride ourselves on running a sophisticated offense, but like the old saying goes, “If you can’t beat em’, join em’” And right now, we can’t beat em.

    At least, we can’t beat em’ often as we’d like.

  30. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Good article, Truth, although I would have given the offense a “D”, but that’s just quibbling.

    Here’s hoping the grades are much better next week.

  31. And for what its worth……..

    Weren’t those screw-balls who caused the Cowboys AND the Jets their respective games, BOTH former Noles?

    I know for a fact Cromartie was.

  32. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Bottom line, we’re just not playing Hurricane Football. I said this was really the key to the OSU way back when I wrote that first analysis of them.

    We’re not dominating, crashing and dashing, beating anyone and everyone to the punch, a step or two or three faster everywhere, a pound or 20 harder all the time, sharper and hungrier all the time.

    That’s Hurricane Football. And we ain’t doing it. We’re playing at a level of intensity that’s more or less like everyone else. There are a few players here and there who are playing at the proper speed, and some guys, like C-Mac, K-Rob, DVD, Horn, Figs I don’t think ever will.

    But the mentality overall just isn’t right. And to me it’s reflected in the play, the speed and intensity.

    It’s just not right…

    I don’t know why. Shannon, Barrow, Petri and a few others know what it’s supposed to look like.

    Maybe it’s a longer process to get back to that level of play than anyone thinks. First you have to get the right players. Then they have to mature physically. Then they have to battle each other in practice at that level of intensity. And you have to have the right position coaches as well.

    I think the coaching situation is settled, although McGriff and Stoutland I wonder about, but we don’t have the players at a few key positions.

    Honestly, I don’t think they’ll be playing Hurricane Football for another year or two. I think the LBs and DBs really have to have the right players in place and the OL as well. The OL and DL sharpen each other, and if you have a weak or blunt blade, it’s not going to prepare you for other teams with better OL.

    Maybe I’m wrong about this part of the equation/process but I know we’ve only played Hurricane Football on both sides of the ball TWICE in the last 7 1/2 years.

    VT 2005
    GT 2009

    Other than, from the 2002 UT game, it’s been hit and miss, declining year after year.

  33. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    bg1906
    September 14, 2010 at 4:32 PM
    Cav.

    1o of FSU’s 17 came in GARBAGE time. He’s not worthy of comment. Please! T-H-R-O-T-T-L-E-D is what FSU got this weekend!

    >>>>>

    LOL, I didn’t even know it was THAT bad. haha What kind of miserable douche even shows his face on a Canes blog after his team got BLASTED like that?

    Tomahawk you must be a miserable fuk…lol

  34. This just in: Chris Brown is now a football player for the crocs. Urban thought he would fit right in.

    Rhianna had no comment.

  35. I think U guys scared him away… lol.

    Seriously, though. Gotta admire his courage… or stupidity? IDK

  36. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Having said that about the team overall, the OFFENSE really should be playing Hurricane Football. Too much experience as a UNIT on that side of the ball, for them to play soft and lackadaisical.

  37. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Someone’s listening…..no more Twitters for the U

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/14/1824583/miami-hurricanes-players-ordered.html

    But check out McGee’s statement..head’s not right after a loss like that….

    • Cornerback Brandon McGee: “who gonna write my twitter account obituary??? lol y’all holla at me on facebook lol ill be there bean bag chilling Jet living.”

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/14/1824583/miami-hurricanes-players-ordered.html#ixzz0zXVZLLaZ

  38. Truth, is this your very first article for the UM blogosphere?

  39. Hurri’ says:
    September 14, 2010 at 4:38 PM

    Bg, did you ever give me your opinion on Jacory, as far as him maximizing his potential with either better coaching, or a simpler scheme?

    J12 has ALWAYS been praised for his football IQ. So mentally what he’s able to take on I think is not an issue. As far as a TRUE pro set offense and doing EVERYTHING that maybe required to do, J12 is limited. He doesn’t have ELITE arm strength and that’s ok on this level, he just needs to be able to make all the throws required of him. This is where Whipple comes in. He has to tailor the offense around what his players CAN do and not what the SCHEME says do (see the Gators struggling for proof of that). I think he’s done that. Very little of my criticism of Whip comes from WHAT he’s running, as opposed to WHEN he’s running what he’s running. The plays are fine, the timeliness of the calls for a particular play is what I had issues with.

  40. Hurri’ says:
    September 14, 2010 at 4:44 PM

    And for what its worth……..

    Weren’t those screw-balls who caused the Cowboys AND the Jets their respective games, BOTH former Noles?

    I know for a fact Cromartie was.

    Yes Baron is a Nole too.

  41. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    The good thing about the PItt game is they’ll have plenty of time to refocuse and focus some more and maybe ramp up the intensity.

    Maybe, these guys just don’t know how to get excited and focused for road games. I don’t know, reaching here, but there is a marked difference in how they play on the road…the lone exception being the USF game.

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  43. why do they always put bad pictures of Randy in articles?!?!?!

    GRRRRRRRRR!!!!

  44. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Very little of my criticism of Whip comes from WHAT he’s running, as opposed to WHEN he’s running what he’s running. The plays are fine, the timeliness of the calls for a particular play is what I had issues with

    >>>>>

    Definitely. We’ll see how this unfolds.

  45. I would agree with what bg said.

    If ever a game called for a WR screen to TB3, it was Saturday. Or a slant. TB3 already showed he could burn them.

    Or even Miller. He can run that play.

  46. Truth.

    On point and I agree with your grades and assesments. BUT I probably would’ve gave the Offense a D-. HAHAHA! Not much difference huh! LOL

  47. Plenty of them are whining about it on Facebook.

    Jacory had to shut down his Facebook last year after he said something that was the equivalent of “F Jim Rome.”

    I don’t get what the big deal is – why the players are so upset. Social networking should be used for SOCIAL NETWORKING. People don’t need to know your every thought or personal life. All you can tell from my Facebook account is that I’m a crazy b!tch who loves my ‘Canes who makes a mean cupcake. And everyone knows that anyway!

    Most of the players use their accounts responsibly and only talk about football, see, e.g., Damien Berry, CMAC. Others change their status updates every 30 seconds about their relationship problems. Not surprisingly, the latter are the dudes not cutting it on the field. Time to grow up guys and accept you are in the spotlight.

  48. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    MM01, I’d love to see more slants. I think Whip’s called maybe two that I;ve seen. Slants to Byrd and Benjamin could be lethal.

  49. Cav the REAL problem is we have not played consistent Hurricane football since 2003 no matter what the “reason” or excuse.

    Hurri, Japicky or Jatweety or Jatwatty or whatever he needs to be called these days has been HIGHLY overrated up to this point NO DOUBT about it!

    2nd game into his junior season and the nonsense shows up once again in a big game. Same ol same ol. Dude stares down receivers all game long and good D’s make him pay for it. I rewatched the game three times and he looks at the receiver he is going to the whole time all the time. He had plenty of time to throw in this game so I don’t want to hear that song. Whoever said he was good at reading D’s is kidding themselves. Oh he can hit a wide open receiver like no ones bidness and gets bailed out by his receivers way too much.

    I forgot he has a ton of intangibles. What those are no one really knows. He is not a leader and never will be IMO. Just not his thing. When you have a team without a true leader at QB that is NEVER a good thing.

    I think #2 in the nation in INT’s was not good enough for him last year. He is shooting for the stars this year.

    Slice better nut up and stop acting a fool or he and BGB will be on the first bus outta here.

    Has this team improved as a whole? Yes. Doesn’t mean much when your QB continues to shyte the bed in big games.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  50. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Others change their status updates every 30 seconds about their relationship problems. Not surprisingly, the latter are the dudes not cutting it on the field. Time to grow up guys and accept you are in the spotlight.

    >>>>>>

    So there’s the answer to it. I recall a story in Cane Mutiny, I think it was, where one of the players from the 80s teams said that when they lost they wouldn’t speak to their girlfriends for a week.

    Shannon’s got a problem on his hands. He’s got to figure out a way to make everyone on the team focus like Franklin focused this fall camp. Not surprisingly he more than handled his job.

    I hear them talking about brotherhood and all but I don’t think they’ve really taken it to heart, in practice and off the field. It means playing each other like bitter enemies in practice.

    Are they doing that??? Truth, BG, anyone??

  51. Canez1, you are dead wrong.

    We haven’t played consistent Hurricane football since 2002.

  52. Cav, when the ‘Canes lose, the old players from the 80s STILL don’t talk to their girlfriends for a week!

  53. Catch the dropped balls, remove the int’s , make those missed tackles, we score, we win, grades improve, game over. PS. Jimbo Who?

  54. I don’t think it was playcalling or bad tackling or blah blah blah…

    I put this game on the QB-WR connection and KO coverage… Plain and simple…

    I saw blogs last year after we beat Ga. Tech and Oklahoma calling for Paul Johnson and Bob Stoops’ head…

    I’m not going to try and blame everything or everybody for what went wrong…

    Plain and simple, we LOST the game, not because of the defense, not because of the coordinators, or the coaching…

    I’ve said it before and I sincerely mean it… Our playcalling could’ve been EXACTLY the same and our defense could’ve played EXACTLY the same but minus those four INTs and the EXCELLENT field position that OSU had as result of the INTs and mediocre KO coverage WE STILL WIN THAT GAME AND PROBABLY EMBARRASS OSU…

    Sean Spence did not “drop” that INT by the way, Pryor threw a bad pass that the WR would’ve had a hard time catching but Sean Spence jumped the pass and got one hand on the ball cleanly and it would’ve been a hell of a catch if he could’ve made the play…

    There were plenty of things that were unimpressive about Saturday but that front seven played as well as we could expect any defense to play…

    Our offense was on the field for TWENTY TWO PLAYS in the first half…

    Those guys practically played like machines and I’ll hang my hat on them going forward…

  55. Lol, Mr. KL. Looking forward to seeing you guys in a few weeks for FSWho!!!

  56. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    Good article Truth! The inability of the offense to score more than 10 points would warrant an F. Throw in the switch in field position from the turnovers and the missed opportunities in the Red Zone, solidify the grade for me.
    Why can’t our D turn the ball over? Some those passes were thrown right to them. Do they not do tackling drills any more? I have heard so called experts on TV say that tackling technique is a lost art. What do you guys think?

  57. Btw, I still love Jacory. I am just disappointed.

    Kind of like when Sebastian pooped on the floor Thursday morning before I left for Columbus.

    Both are old enough and have been trained enough to know better.

    Btw, I should have recognized that as a bad omen.

  58. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez, other than those two games, I haven’t seen Hurricane Football since the UF and UT games of 2002. After that, it was soft and softer.

    But if JSQ is right that these guys are whining about losing Twitter on FB then there’s a much, much bigger problem and explanation for this team’s play.

    They are devoted to and focused on dominating, mastering their position and playing ballz out on every play.

    THIS is Shannon’s #1 problem and the fact that J12 is the worst offender says it all, esp. when he wants to talk about “I’m the leader of the team.”

    He does or at least he did regularly go through his reads last year but yeah, he is staring em down.

    Mind’s not right, all over the team.

  59. Cav

    I can’t tell you intimately what happens in practice. I can only go by what I see on TV and video after watching it countless times. My wife always asks after a game, YOU AREN’T TIRED OF WATCHING THAT YET??? HAHAHA! I’m always looking for different things. As I’ve said before, I don’t have INs at the program no more than any of you. BUT I consume any and all Canes info from a variety of outlets and I form good educated opinions. Also having played the game (Middle School, HS, and D-II) and being a team captain 2 years, give me a certain “insight” if you will about things like team chemistry and leadership.

    So that question I can not answer. I would ASSUME though that when they practice, they get after each other, you HAVE too, that’s how you and your teammates get better.

  60. Cav, I wouldn’t say it’s all over the team. There are just a few big offenders. Truth and I were talking about it last night and, not surprisingly, it is the guys who don’t do much in practice and have NO BUSINESS being on the field during games. But with one in particular, who I think is the worst offender on the team, we have no choice but to play him right now. I’m not saying who it is because I don’t want to publicly bash the kid but I’m sure most of y’all can read between the lines.

  61. First time mike…the truth don’t do writing

  62. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    There were plenty of things that were unimpressive about Saturday but that front seven played as well as we could expect any defense to play…

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Doc, I agree with you about the TOs and KOs but the D wasn’t dominant. There was a series in the 1st that the announcer called out as showing Miami squeezing the OSU WRs, and Pryor was stopped on 3rd.

    But there’s still another level. None of the DL looked like proper Hurriance DLs. They looked better but still not what is expected with that U on the helmet.

    And between C-Mac, K-Rob and VT apparently being MIA, that explains a lot of the breakdowns.

    My main complaint about the D was no one seemed to be able to shed a block. Not the DL, not the Lbs not the DBs.

    Does our offense block that poorly that our defense is just unprepared for team’s that block well??

  63. The Truth does writing now.

  64. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    “Kind of like when Sebastian pooped on the floor Thursday morning before I left for Columbus.”

    JSQ…why wasn’t this on your FB status????

  65. Doc

    Spence had both hands on the ball and shouldve scored six with it.

    Big time players make big time plays in big time games.

  66. lol, Hurricanedave!

  67. I just want to see Jacory doing something that plays to his skill set, and where he has a lot of quick and easy options. I prefer the Pro, myself.
    If we dialed up the O in every game, the way we did vs OU (the 2nd half) & FSU, I wouldn’t be mad. Those were the two best O coordinated games I’ve seen called for us in eons……..

  68. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    JSQ
    September 14, 2010 at 5:19 PM
    Cav, I wouldn’t say it’s all over the team. There are just a few big offenders. Truth and I were talking about it last night and, not surprisingly, it is the guys who don’t do much in practice and have NO BUSINESS being on the field during games. But with one in particular, who I think is the worst offender on the team, we have no choice but to play him right now. I’m not saying who it is because I don’t want to publicly bash the kid but I’m sure most of y’all can read between the lines.

    >>>>>>

    Seems like some of the players like Franklin, C-Mac and maybe Spence need to start getting people’s heads straight.

  69. cant wait to see da next part. likw wuts said so far.

  70. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Truth, you write well, what’re you talking about?

  71. Truth is being modest.

  72. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    BG, yeah, I would think they have to go hard. But the play make me wonder. We’ll see in 10 days….

  73. Captain Optimist says:
    September 14, 2010 at 5:42 PM

    BG, yeah, I would think they have to go hard. But the play make me wonder. We’ll see in 10 days….

    I think they are going to THROTTLE Pitt. Look for it to be a PRETTY BIG statement type of game before ACC conference play begins.

  74. AUTUM:

    “thank you.
    apology & niceties accepted.

    its a shame you’re too young to remember that great 60’s song by donovon:
    “they call me mellow jello”

    damn, anyone remember a word in the first line: “i’m just mad about ____, she’s just mad about me . . . ” can’t remember it and its driving me crazy.”

    The song is “Mellow Yellow” and the missing name is “Saffron”

    From somone older than dirt to another…….

    Truth, good article……….

  75. A couple things, while he was misplaced about the garbage time points, everyone here went to Defcom 4 about Tomahawk’s comments, ya’ll must still be on edge after our game against suckeyes.

    Now something that is going to kick the hornet’s nest but I do truly want to pose this question for EOTH:

    Is it possible “Hurricanes Football” was really only a once in a life time aberration? A perfect storm? (I am talking mid/late 80s Canes)

    On our recent mission to achieve this level of dominance once again (and I exclude the teams from earlier this decade since they were arguably the greatest collection of football talent ever assembled), I am starting to wonder if we are looking for something that can’t be replicated.

    Due to a collection of mitigating circumstances (take your pick from parity across college football, to supplements, S & C coaches and nutrition programs, to greed/money/booster, to the pussification of America, to media exposure, to Twitter whatever) might it just not be possible.

    Might it only be possible to have your top goal to be in the hunt every year vs. winning it every year.

    Before you dismiss this as a loser’s statement, just think and tell me why other than the fact that Randy Shannon won’t let it happen, or our players blah blah, that this is not actually a strong possibility.

    Maybe for that time (referencing thos 80s) for that place and for those players, that was their destiny and we as fans are now chasing something that can’t replicated.

    I think our team will be great, and future NCs should be expected, but can it be that this truly dominate state of “Hurricane football” truly was a once in a lifetime occurance that we might have to let go of.

    I look forward to seeing what you guys think but after a couple years of blogging and hearing about our march back towards “hurricane football” I do wonder that if it is maybe as fans who are making the mistake (and don’t take this as doubt in this team as much as this is a question of was what we all expect for our team possibly a once in a lifetime occurance)

    Im out for now but look forward to the answers on this.

  76. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    BG, that would answer a lot of questions. I’d love to be in practice and team meetings this coming week.

  77. Let me clarify one thing your top goal is always to win the NC I just meant realistically that being in the hunt is what is possible

  78. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    shwarma
    September 14, 2010 at 5:56 PM
    A couple things, while he was misplaced about the garbage time points, everyone here went to Defcom 4 ab

    >>>>>>

    The only person who went Defcom 4 was me. For a Nole to say anything about ANY team after the way they got crushed deserved nothing less and probably more.

  79. Shwarma,

    I don’t think that era can be replicated and I wouldn’t want it to be.

    That was then, this is now. I think we are close to getting back to dominating and being a NC caliber team.

    But Saturday showed we aren’t there yet.

    I fully believe RS is bringing us back to being an elite contender.

  80. By “wouldn’t want it to be” I mean, I am not a huge fan of what was going on off the field. A lot of it was boys will be boys but other stuff, like the Pell grant scandal is crazy and embarrassing. I don’t want our team to win like that.

  81. Capt O, Mary and Mike both told him to watch himself which just seemed like they went on high alert. I was just making a joke/comment about everyone being touchy.

    And JSQ I hear you, but what I am saying is that as a fanbase, are we all willing to say that future teams might never be able replicate that level of dominance because while we all embrace those teams and think they are truly special, are we all missing the point, that maybe for whatever reason whether there is a U on the side of the helmet or not, ANY team cannot be that dominate and feared again.

    Its much more of a hypothetic and theoreticaly question than one I posing.

  82. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    I think our team will be great, and future NCs should be expected, but can it be that this truly dominate state of “Hurricane football” truly was a once in a lifetime occurance that we might have to let go of.

    I look forward to seeing what you guys think but after a couple years of blogging and hearing about our march back towards “hurricane football” I do wonder that if it is maybe as fans who are making the mistake (and don’t take this as doubt in this team as much as this is a question of was what we all expect for our team possibly a once in a lifetime occurance)

    >>>>>>

    Shwarm, that’s a legit question but to me, with Shannon as HC, Barrow and Petri as LB coach, and Lovett, who';s been around a long time and seen it, it can be achieved again.

    But like anything extraordinary, you must have the proper conditions, mental and physical, for it to occur.

    Hurricane Football didn’t really evolve until JJ came in. Schnell had them playing at a high level but JJ and those players took it to another notch.

    Then it dipped with Erickson but Butch arrived in time to gradually bring it back without too much decline. By 1999 it was back properly.

    Shannon’s almost starting back where Schnell started- complete rebuild.

    But still, HE more than anyone knows what it looks like. He’s seen it all. Played it. Coached it.

    So until we start playing like that, I expect to see a scowl on his face, EVEN WHEN WE WIN.

    And although he says these kids may have taken on his mentality of being the best player on the field, until they actually PLAY LIKE IT, it’s going to look like every other school’s style.

  83. good write up Truth. i’m curious about what comes out of the 9 drops at WR. will guys like Streeter and Thompkins get that chance to break into the game day rotation now that that’s happened or will the current rotation get one more chance to redeem themselves.

    and i forgot who commented, but i’m still a big Figs proponent…just as a OG. I was wondering if it would be another Chris Myers situation where a good guard just wasn’t nearly as effective at OT.

  84. Shwarma:

    Interesting perspective….was the 80″ our Moon Landing? It may never happen again, but we know if it happened once, it is still possible……..I had the privilege to be at many of those games in the 80’s..some of the best football ever. Hope to live long enough to see it all happen again….keep hope alive and trust in Randy…..

  85. Shwarma,

    You bet your a$$ I’m touchy right now!!!! :-)

    The dude that posted it is a friend of a friend. Frankly, I’m really over opposing teams’ fans acting like douches and I was telling him to please not go there. I don’t want to hate the ‘Noles, too.

    I just want to destroy them and make Jimbo cry.

  86. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Shwarma

    No team will ever replicate the team of the 80’s and earl 90’s. Let’s put it this way, those teams left for NC’s on the field than the crocs have even played for.

    Dominance is still possible, but not that kind of dominance. Being in the hunt most years, and winning one or two every few years is a good goal. Are we there yet? We’ll know more after the last CFB game has been played this year.

    I”ll say this though. The U is a very attractive place for kids to come: the reputation, the worldwide brand “U”, the opportunity for the big stage, an excellent school in a beautiful location, so we have something to sell recruits. Those 87-92 teams: nobody does that again. And if they do, it will be the U.

  87. not sure if anyone posted this link yet….no mo’ twitter.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/14/1824583/miami-hurricanes-players-ordered.html

  88. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    No team will ever replicate the team of the 80′s and earl 90′s. Let’s put it this way, those teams left more NC’s on the field than the crocs have even played for.

  89. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    JSQ, the Pell Grant stuff happened when the team was seriously in decline on the field. They weren’t playing Hurricane Football at all really. 1992 as a whole was like 2002….lethargic, stagnation, riding on the coattails of the past.

    To me, it’s not a coincidence that the on-field decline took place at the same time as the off-field garbage.

    But more importantly by the time 1999 rolled around we were playing at the same fever pitch as 1989.

    So the dip has occurred before and rebounded. Right now though, it ain’t there. It’s not really close if you ask me. And that’s the most disappointing part of it.

    At this rate it’s two years away. When this frosh OL and LB class have matured and are taking everything to the next level, then we’ll see it on the field week in and week out.

    Of course, MAYBE this loss to OSU will light a fire under the entire team the way it did to Benjamin on that PR.

  90. Esteban, Truth can comment more on this, but if SH can handle it, I think you are right on the Meyers (my friend’s bro!) comparison. Let’s hope SH comes through. I like Figs.

  91. I just want to destroy them and make Jimbo cry.

    AMEN to that!!!

  92. What Canesx3 said.

  93. JSQ, Henderson can probably handle it for a quarter. Not sure if he’s had enough time to get in shape to go a full game tho. I’d be cool with him, Johnson and/or Ben Jones (by the way, why no play time against OSU?) rotating. Figs at LG and you got a strong side at least.

  94. and my bad on Meyers name. I really enjoyed watching him and Carey teamed up on the right side that year. If only Joseph and Rasouli played at the same level those two played at then we’d have beat Ohio State easy in the title game.

  95. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    CCC, I think it’s utterly and completely possible and achievable. You just have to have the right conditions.

    The 1999-2002 teams were every bit as intense and dominant as those 80s teams. Maybe even more talented.

    But you have to have the right players and coaches for something like that to happen.

    That’s why it’s so important to have a HC like Shannon. Mistakes and all, he knows what it’s supposed to look like. And I don’t think he’ll be satisfied until it looks right.

    Don’t get me wrong. We can win a lot with these players right now. But I think this year is another stepping stone year. Even if we win the ACC.

    I personally won’t be satisfied until it looks right. I’m sure Canez1 is with me on this…haha

    That’s the whole reason why I’ve followed the U.

  96. I disagree, Cav.

    One, the Pell Grant scandal started before that and it was rampant by the time we were declining. I’ve talked to people who took the money earlier on in their time at UM. It was caught later when they were leaving for the NFL.

    Second, I don’t think we were back in 1999. A L to Penn State, E Carolina and FSWho is not back.

    When 2000 started out, we had no idea if we were in for another 3 loss season.

    I truly hope leaders step up and resolve, like the old team in 2000 did, that OSWho will be the last loss this season and make it happen.

    I believe they can.

  97. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Este, that would be a better OL lineup if you ask me.

  98. No, you were right. Esteban. It’s Myers. Just checked Facebook. Used to be an RA with his sister. I should know better. I blame the fever!

  99. Shwarma

    I’m uo to my ears in bath time, story reading and fighting off the grim reaper. Once I successfully handle these situations I have an answer for you

  100. Truth, I could use your help fighting off the grim reaper once little T is asleep.

    Stupid sinus infections!

  101. Perhaps the most important thing that Truth stated……

    Forced zero turnovers. ZERO.

    The fact that we won nine games, netting just NINE ints last year, is actually pretty astonishing. Texas led the nation in picks last year, with 25……….Again, that’s nearly TRIPLE what we got.

    TRIPLE, DAMMIT!!!! Grasp that for a minute!

    Inexcusable for a team that has soo much “speed” and so many “athletes.”

  102. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Captain Optimist says:
    September 14, 2010 at 6:21 PM
    CCC, I think it’s utterly and completely possible and achievable. You just have to have the right conditions.

    The 1999-2002 teams were every bit as intense and dominant as those 80s teams. Maybe even more talented.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Good points all, Cav. But I think the probability of any team being that dominant is difficult in today’s environment. Even that 2000-2002 team, with all the great players in place, was as primed as any team has ever been to win 3 straight NC’s. The first year, they got totally screwed by the BCS (when oklahoma beat FSwho for the NC) – we should have been playing Oklahoma. The next year we won it. The following year: Terry Porter. If that team couldn’t win 2 out 3, I think it’s hard for any other team.

    But like I said before, if any team has the right mix of ingredients to POTENTIALLY have that kind of run it’s the U. I hope you’re right. I hope it can and will happen.

    Right now, the players better be sweating bullets about Pitt. They need to be scared enough to work their asses off before the game and go into it pissed and angry enough to eat their own young.

  103. Agreed, Hurriphin.

    Catch the dang ball.

    That goes for both O and D.

  104. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    JSQ – I’m sure you’ve tried this: a saline flush?

  105. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    JSQ, I’m not saying the ’99 team was ready to win a NC, arguably. I’m saying they were playing Hurricane Football. Watch the first play, the very first play of this 1999 game against OSU.

    http://www.youtube.com/user/canefreak2001#p/u/4/PFmNYa8o2xI

    THAT’S Hurricane Football. Bosses on the field, playing like Bosses. Dictating and attacking….DL, LB and DBs, all reading reacting and colliding at the same spot….shedding blocks or blowing right by them…crushing whoever has the ball.
    We haven’t seen anything close to that other than VT ’05 and GT ’09.

    That’s how you beat team’s like OSU that are big, strong, fundamentally very sound but not dynamic, intense and explosive.

    And good points on the start of the Pell Grant scandal but with Erickson in charge, that only reflected the overall “bull in a china shop” atmosphere.

    JJ built the bull and rode it like a matador or a champion bull rider.

    Erickson was simply waaayyyy over his head.

    Shannon’s got to bring the bull back. Period.

  106. I haven’t, Canesx3. I haven’t even been taking my antibiotics until the end that were prescribed earlier this year.

    And Truth gave me a lecture on that last night so I don’t need another one.

    Apparently there is also this sleeping thing I should try.

    I need to take better care of myself. Especially during season.

    So tell me about this saline thing.

  107. Cav, I think the 99 team was as hit or miss as we were last year.

    The only difference in the record is that they beat GA Tech in the gator bowl (which we should have played in last year).

    Did Dorsey look like Dorsey in the Washington game?

    No.

    I’m not ready to give up on this team. If they lose the next 3 games, I will concede they aren’t there.

    Until then, Steve Perry said

    DON’T STOP BELIEVIN!!!!

  108. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    The next year we won it. The following year: Terry Porter. If that team couldn’t win 2 out 3, I think it’s hard for any other team.

    >>>>>>

    One missing ingredient doomed it….Larry Coker.

    That’s why I say we haven;t seen Hurricane Football since the UT 2002 game. After that Cokerization began taking effect. You remember the games. The offense wasn’t crisp, and was downright lazy at times. The defense was lax. We were just rolling on our own momentum and talent.

    And we all know how long that lasted before the real problems reared their ugly head. And that’s why we lost to OSU. We played the game close to their speed and style. Throw in Dorsey coming unglued and McGahee’s injury and you have that L.

    But if we’d been playing like we were in 2001 or 2000, that is to say, proper Hurricane Football, we would’ve blown OSU off the field or at least beat them soundly.

  109. I’m not spelling things out because my head is cloudy:

    I’m comparing 2010 to 2000. Not saying we have the same talent. I am saying we have similar potential to run the table and play in a BCS bowl.

  110. JSQ, I swear by the saline flush. It will sting for a few seconds, but it works great.

    I’ll let Cubed tell ya. But it works.

  111. Sounds horrible, Mike!

  112. it’s not that bad.

    It’s worth a few seconds of discomfort to flush your sinuses.

  113. I think the problem is I ran out of the supplement rejuvaphan recommended. I was able to fight things off with that stuff. Going to get some more ASAP!!!

  114. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    It took USC 20 years to get there program back on track , the 80’s & and 90’s were not very good. When you get to be my age, you can see that most of the “elite” programs have had significant periods that would be considered by their fans as not up to their standards. Given that, I think the Canes are about to cycle back and become Elite again! Shannon was a part of the glory days, he knows what it took then and how to get back to it, now. It may be taking a little longer than the fan base wants it to take.

    I live in Cincy and all this city can talk about is the 75 & 76 Reds! now that is pitiful, that was 35 years ago!

  115. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    JSQ, I’m not giving up on these boys. I’m just saying they need ratchet up the intensity level several notches to do honor to that U on their helmets.

    And you could see Dorsey’s decision-making ability early on. Now he wasn’t the overall leader he became until after the Washington game, definitely.

    I’m curious to see if this game might be the catalyst to bring out the bull.

  116. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Dave, now THAT is funny. I think the entire state of Ohio still lives in the 70s, as far as sports are concerned.

  117. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Then again, maybe it’s something that take five or six years to develop. Butch’s teams definitely didn’t look like that when he started. And JJ had to fire his entire D staff.

    Maybe it’s a PROCESS…..haha

  118. JSQ no doubt about 2002. My bad ;)

    Shwarm I think when people say “Hurricane Football” they are not comparing this team to that team. They are looking for a team to come out balls to the wall week in and week out and play solid hard nosed football for 4 Qtrs.

    There are elite teams in college football these days that do just that. Why can’t we?

    This team has talent all over the field yet they can’t put it together in big games for as long as I can remember. They play like champs on one drive and Miami Northwestern on the next.

    T pointed out many of the issues in the article.

    There are only a few common denominators on this team the past several years. The talent has been completely overhauled yet this team continues to play erratic, sloppy, undisciplined, poorly executed ball 3/4’s of the time and that play only get’s worse the bigger the game.

    I don’t think anyone really expects to blow out every team every week but it would be refreshing to see a team with this much elite talent play elite ball throughout a game let alone a season.

    The great Hurricane teams are truly one of a kinds but I don’t think it is expecting too much to have a team with this much potential play like it.

    Alabama, Texas, Florderderder, and a few others overcome holes in the depth chart or injuries or the weather and just win. These are top teams with top talent and top coaches and it shows. They might have their ups and downs but they find a way to win. Something we just can’t put together on a consistent basis. We just find reasons why we didn’t win. Huge difference and it all starts at the top.

    That is just my take. Not looking for the 2001 Canez just looking for a team I can be proud of.

    I actually felt embarrassed this weekend at the play I saw on the field from our O and special teams. Highschoolish at best. Aside from the returns our coverage was atrocious. Two out of three phases of our game were a complete cluster fukk.

    Embarrassment is a tough thing to get over……..

    I am just looking for a team that plays with passion and pride. Is that asking for too much?? Seems like it these days.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  119. Cav, I didn’t see it in Dorsey until later. He was just the goofy kid who gave me laundry money until FSWho 2000.

  120. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    JSQ – go to Walgreens or CVS and you can find it. Ask someone there where it is. It’s just basically sterile salt water in a dispenser that you stick in one nostril and then the other. Blow it in and aspirate until it gets in your sinuses. Sterile saline can help flush any bad stuff in there out (it kinda goes down your throat so it tastes nasty).

    Another suggestion is that if you really have a bad headache from your sinuses get the following combination: psuedoephedrine/chlorpheniramine. No rx needed but you have to get ask the pharmacist because it’s behind the counter. Take that with whatever pain killer you’re taking (Advil, Tylenol, etc). It works wonders for me.

    A word of caution: just because it works for me doesn’t mean it will work for you. The combo psued/chlor can make you drowsy or hyper, depending on how you respond to those types of antihistamines. Also, I don’t know what else you’re on so take all of this with a grain of salt. It’s just what’s worked for me.

    Finally, with everything I’ve said you’re only treating the symptons, NOT the underlying cause. I’m assuming your doctor has prescribed the antibiotic based on his assumption that it’s bacterial – althought there’s no way to know for sure because you haven’t had your sinuses cultured.

    I think the best advice I can give you is this. If you haven’t already, go see an ENT (ear/nose/throat) MD, also known as otolaryngologists. The see this all the time. Second choice would be an allergist, because another possibility is that what you have is not bacterial at all, but allergic (as in allergic rhinitis).

    That’s my best shot. Good luck…and your’re right you do need to take better care of yourself.

  121. CANEZ1 is absolutely correct…..

    Winning 10, 11 games a year in the ACC is NOT asking much. It just isn’t.
    I’m willing to wait a couple of seasons, here & there, to win a National. But we shouldn’t have to wait 5 and 6 years at a time just to play good, consistent FBall.

  122. if you don’t swallow or breath, it shouldn’t go down your throat. You have to hold your breath so it won’t, and the saline and clutter from your nose you blow out through your nose.

  123. Thanks, Canesx3.

    Truth gave me the name of an ENT up here that I plan on seeing.

    I will try the saline thing.

    The other stuff makes it so I can’t sleep and am bouncing off the walls so I avoid it.

    Bottom line, I need to get more sleep and have more down time. I just got an email that made me all flushed, rapid heart beat and everything and it is GOOD news and re: something ‘Canes. But it also means I have to send out about 5 emails. Just have too much going on. Need to start delegating more or saying NOOOOO! when someone wants me to run something.

    Otherwise, I really will run away to the Bahamas in October to live with a hut with Truth. I’m burnt out.

    Good news is, I have gone through a case work up in 2 days! Usually takes me 5. My boss might tell me to get sick and stay home more often!!!

  124. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Definitely see the ENT. Truth has pointed you in the right direction. Definitely.

  125. Thanks for the links, Canesx3

  126. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Feel better

  127. Thanks. I am starting to. Poor Truth is getting worse. I hope he reads your posts.

  128. Canez1
    2 hrs, 23 mins ago
    Cav the REAL problem is we have not played consistent Hurricane football since 2003 no matter what the “reason” or excuse.

    Hurri, Japicky or Jatweety or Jatwatty or whatever he needs to be called these days has been HIGHLY overrated up to this point NO DOUBT about it!

    2nd game into his junior season and the nonsense shows up once again in a big game. Same ol same ol. Dude stares down receivers all game long and good D’s make him pay for it. I rewatched the game three times and he looks at the receiver he is going to the whole time all the time. He had plenty of time to throw in this game so I don’t want to hear that song. Whoever said he was good at reading D’s is kidding themselves. Oh he can hit a wide open receiver like no ones bidness and gets bailed out by his receivers way too much.

    I forgot he has a ton of intangibles. What those are no one really knows. He is not a leader and never will be IMO. Just not his thing. When you have a team without a true leader at QB that is NEVER a good thing.

    I think #2 in the nation in INT’s was not good enough for him last year. He is shooting for the stars this year.

    Slice better nut up and stop acting a fool or he and BGB will be on the first bus outta here.

    Has this team improved as a whole? Yes. Doesn’t mean much when your QB continues to shyte the bed in big games.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Canez

    As much as I hate to write it, this pretty much spot on.

    Jacory missed spring ball, but so what?

    Jacory REALLY dissapointed me with the twitter, standing alone thing this weekend. I know he’s not the only one. I know he’s not the one responsible for winning games.

    But he IS the quarterback of this team. He is too loose. Too goofy. Too focussed on keeping everyone from being tight.

    You know what? He needs to wind up a little bit and stop posting dumb ass pictures of himself on twitter during the week.

    It shows – demonstrates – a lack of focus.

    1 TD, 4 INT’s and 10 points doesn’t = a foccused performance especially when part of that involved throwing at a WR’s BACK.

    I don’t care if he has a cannon or can run or is black or has 43 words cut into his f&cking fro.

    I do care to him win. I do care to see him succeed because he is capable and he CAN be special.

    But that lid needs to cut the crap, start acting like the football player he is and lead his team BY EXAMPLE.

    This team doesn’t need it’s QB to be a clown.

    Win the games, throw the TD’s and you can cut the fool at god damn day long. Until then, sit in the film room, take notes, work like hell in practice and go out on Saturday and play like you’re capable of.

  129. I’m sick and I don’t feel well. I thought I was golden with some antibiotics but they’re doing nothing for me.

    So, sorry for the typos in that last post and for the anger behind it. I want Jacory to be a NC QB because he IS.

    I love that kid…but he’s got to play better NOW

  130. I agree with both Canez1 and Truth on this.

    Hankerson, BHarris, DBerry, LMiller, CMac, they have it.

    I think it boils down to lack of maturity. All of it.

    Good comments, guys.

  131. It is what it is…

    I’ve seen a prime Serena Williams lose to “No-Name Sally” because of UNFORCED ERRORS…

    I don’t see Miami/Jacory/the offense playing like tht the rest of the season… The offense was almost flawless against FAMU but the bad news bears against OSU…

  132. The show Undateable on VH1 is HILARIOUS.

    More dudes need to watch this.

    In particular, someone who was at our tailgate on Saturday.

    Just sayin.

  133. I just learned Shockey and Edge were THISCLOSE to coming to our tailgate for orange and green jello shots.

    Sigh.

  134. Truth,
    I agree with you 100%. The offense was atrocious! There is no excuse for their performance.
    The defense was lacking, but was put in horrible situations time after time by Jacory and the offense.

  135. The new guy was saying he disagreed with Shannon banning Twitter. I left him these 2 msgs.

    bg1906 says:
    September 14, 2010 at 8:25 pm
    You guys are a riot. The accounts were banned because before the game, Jacory tweeted about how many middle fingers he had gotten in Columbus and talked about the atmosphere in Columbus before the game. That IS lack of focus. He shouldn’t be concerned with Twitter at that point, he SHOULD be mentally preparing for the game. Its not silly and I’m sure its only for know. Maybe when the team PROVES it can focus and NOT be distracted then they MAY get their privs back. Anyone ever think about that?

    Reply
    bg1906 says:
    September 14, 2010 at 8:28 pm
    Also Steve, for you OF COURSE you’d be disappointed because it takes a key vehicle away from you as a journalist assigned to the team. However in my eyes as a fan, I think its a good move that SHOULD be implemented until further notice. Have you seen some of the stuff the players tweet or status on facebook to the general public??? Their lives should NOT be a personal book for us to read.

    My times have changed and I’m not even that old!

  136. Wow, someone sunk to a new low.

    Pathetic. You know who you are. Disgusting revolting pathetic pathological liar who is a pathetic excuse for a man.

  137. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    What on earth are you talking about, JSQ????

  138. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    But he IS the quarterback of this team. He is too loose. Too goofy. Too focussed on keeping everyone from being tight.

    You know what? He needs to wind up a little bit and stop posting dumb ass pictures of himself on twitter during the week.

    It shows – demonstrates – a lack of focus.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Truth, yeah, I’ve been thinking the same thing about his comic routines.

    There is a certain TENSION that goes with football. An INTENSITY that you must have to play at a high level.

    Why? Because you can bet your azz your opponent is going to come with the same or greater.

    So what then does it take to whoop and opponent who has that intensity??

    MORE INTENSITY AND PRECISION.

    FOCUS MAN!!!!!!

  139. Watching Jeff Godfrey at UCF. Talented playmaker, but wouldn’t likely make it in our system.

  140. He took their names off their jerseys for a year as well… this is no big deal.

    I’m going to LMAO when we start winning and everyone says it’s because The Randy banned twitter, ’cause it’s not.

    Just win and everyone will think your outfits are cute and show U have personality.
    Just win and everyone will think, these kids ARE used to the pressure games from their SoFla background.
    They ARE used to loud enviroments because they have two “15s in the trunk!

    But lose? Everyone is going to judge EVERYTHING including how you tie your shoes. Hey don’t cry, you chose to come here, you could’ve gone to a division three school where NO ONE WOULD CARE (my favorite Whipple quote).

  141. Nothing. I just think some people should have their ‘Canes fans privileges revoked for excessive douchebaggery.

    From now on, I would appreciate if people wouldn’t even bring that kind of thing to my attention. I’m already sick. Now I’m nauseous. I don’t want to see it, I don’t want to know what goes on over there.

  142. Ok, Ok……

    So Godfrey could fit in our system……Sheesh.

  143. I think we’re making too much of all this. We lost because our defense wasn’t “old school Canes dominant”, and we turned the ball over too much. It wasn’t enought o beat the #2 team in their house.

    We’ve got good players, leaders and coaches and we will rebound. This is the hard part of college football fandom when the reality sets in and we start to realize that our “gods” might be mortals for just another season.

    It’s all good, we are on the right track and doing it the right way.

    Sent U an email Canez1, look out for an email from odoylerules! :) Out for a while.

  144. Lol, Hurriphin!

  145. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    He is not a leader and never will be IMO. Just not his thing.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I agree with the hard look at J12 and his needing to grow up. I don’t agree with this statement. He can be good or great, he threw too many ints last year and sucked at OSU, but he’s also had some good games, thrown for a lot of yards, and doesn’t always stare down his receivers. We’ve all seen him go through his progressions.

    But to say he “never will be” a leader is a little to pessimistic for my taste. He BETTER improve his leadership and focus…and he can. I know we all want him to.

    What’s required now is a good measure of tough love. Really tough. In-your-face tough.

  146. i got a good guess 3xCanes.

    and if Aldarius makes that catch in the end zone then Jacory isn’t even throwing that 4th pick.

    if Spence catches that INT it’s at least close to a TD (Pryor is a fast dude, might have tracked down Spence before he got all the way to the endzone).

    if Ray Ray catches that INT that’s one less score for Ohio State.

    if DVD catches that INT or bats away the pass to #12 on that 3rd and forever play that’s one less score.

    if…if…if….and then some.

    if these things happen then we aren’t talking so much about Jacory.

    but things worked out the way they did. so we’ll be talking about him until at least the Pitt game.

  147. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .
    I must have missed something.

    I haven’t even looked over there since the meltdown on Saturday.

    So unless someone clues me in, I’m clueless (which is more or less what my kids think I am anyway).

  148. LalalalalalalalAlalalala

    So, how ’bout them ‘Canes?

  149. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Ok. You’re not talking. I did give my take on J12, JSQ. I don’t think he’s hopeless, do you? Esteban? BG? Truth? Anybody? Mike?

  150. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Doc Ibis
    September 14, 2010 at 8:05 PM
    It is what it is…

    I’ve seen a prime Serena Williams lose to “No-Name Sally” because of UNFORCED ERRORS…

    I don’t see Miami/Jacory/the offense playing like tht the rest of the season… The offense was almost flawless against FAMU but the bad news bears against OSU…

    >>>>>>

    And the reason she lost her focus????? Playing HOLLYWOOD, as Luke called it……..being a fashionista, going to fashion shows instead of training, going to movie premiers and parties and designing her own line of clothing….WHA???? When you’re in your prime?

    And she got back to form by tossing all that bullshyt aside….

    Honestly, I’d like to see these guys voluntarily close their FB and MS accounts. That would tell me they’re not thinking about anything but school and football.

  151. J12 is not hopeless. He just had a terrible game.

    I have messed up before. I have forgotten milk in cupcakes. I have distinguished a case not so well. In my younger years, I messed up some sandwich orders working at Schlotzsky’s. But I am still a damn good baker, attorney and cook.

    Don’t give up on J12, guys.

  152. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    There you go, JSQ. He’ll come back. I’m optimistic.

    CO, this is for you: http://www.imdb.com/media/rm701202432/tt0458339

  153. The ongoing issues don’t begin and end with OSU.

    This type of embarrassing play happened all last year in big games and for as long as I can remember as a matter of fact. If it was one game then that is a different story.

    Unfortunately this is a common theme that is now crossing over into a new year.

    There is an issue here whether you want to look at it and acknowledge it or not.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  154. I will say that Randy and Whipple will be important in getting Jacory’s mind right. If you mess up and you are made to feel incompetent, that doesn’t motivate people.

    JJ treated the players like they already were what he wanted them to be. And they had the fear of God in them not to let JJ (or their teammates) down.

    I don’t think we are quite there yet, but I think we will get our answer next Thursday.

  155. Just got home from work and school….wow!

    Go Canes!

  156. Canez1, I’m not ready to say that yet, pal.

    Let’s watch a few more games and see the results before we put the cart before the horse.

    I’ll say this, UM needs a win @ Pitt, just for self-confidence reasons and to keep the fan base at bay.

  157. Dang, that’s a long day, Canechic!

  158. I know JSQ it was insane! Learning so many new things at work, I am exhausted.

  159. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .

    Same here Mike.

    And I recall some pretty big wins against Oklahoma and GT. You can’t discount those because they were at home. We even pasted, away, a USF team, that hammered FSU at home. Ok that last one is stretching, but you have to look at the entire season. Yes, no one has forgotten about NC, VT, or WI.

    I’m just not throwing up my hands in the air and saying it’s over. I couldn’t make the games thinking like that. Unless I’m one of those people that just want to constantly bitch about Randy or J12 at the games. I’ve got one of those near me where I sit and that’s annoying enough.

    jmo, though…to each his own

  160. I will say I have doubts in this team where I didn’t before. But I believe they can overcome this crap and do something great!

  161. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez1, this shyt has been happening since 2002, with teams that had more talent than this one, and it continued every year since Medioker took over. So trying to hint that Shannon is the problem is a little off and late.

    Shannon’s righted the ship and had big wins but hasn’t been able to get over the hump on big ROAD games. The common theme in all those games was coming out flat and in this case, the offense being way behind the defense.

    Maybe he needs to press some buttons he doesn’t think he needs to press or hasn’t pressed.

    I think J12’s situation is an the biggest one but there are others who need their minds righted.

    Whether it be Whipple, Shannon, the other players or a combination of them all, J12, TB3 and the team as a whole needs to move everything up a notch.

  162. I bet, Canechic! How is the internship going? Things sound better than last week. :-)

  163. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    J12 will be fine when he stops trying to be a superstar. For him to come out as discombobulated as he did against OSU is just ridiculous.

    His play against FSU was natural and in the flow. After that though, I think he started reading his own press too much.

    And if he wants to be a leader he’s got to lead with deeds, not talk and jokes.

    The first order of business is looking off defenders……

  164. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    CCC, I remember that USF game very clearly, namely being VERY uncertain about what would happen because we’d come out so flat in other games, and remembering how USF whooped FSU.

    I really, truly didn;t know what to expect. Sure enough the team was focused and you could see it from the first snap. J12 especially. Even Whipple came out and attacked, instead of throwing the trickeration shyt.

  165. Yes much better, communication is so important! The paralegal who is training me quit, so now I am being trained by the attorney and things are going much better. He really is a great person.

  166. Here is something we all might think of:

    “Dum Spiro Spero!” While I breathe, I hope!

  167. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    http://www.youtube.com/user/rusty98um11#p/u/6/sfK66zbd41o

    USF…..

    Will the real J12 please stand up??

  168. Respice Finem….keep the end in view!

  169. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH10) says:

    C1 nailed it above.

    But that being said, this team should and likely will run the table.

    If they don’t I will be really disappointed because for this talent level there is no reason why they shouldn’t, especially with the Heels, Noles and Hokies all having to play here.

  170. That Pitt game needs to read something like:

    41-17 UM

    JaFOURy H4rris: 20-28; 320yds; 2 TDs; 0 ints

    Then maybe CANEZ1 doesn’t appear in Coach’s dreams, like Freddy.

  171. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez1, notice the commentator even talking about J12 going through his progressions.

    Hmmmm. I guess that starts at the top too…;-)

  172. Glad things are better for you, Canechic!

    Hurriphin, lol, I still have Freddy nightmares sometimes!

    Well, that, and tailgate prep nightmares.

    I will tell you, Canez1 is the perfect tailgating buddy. Sarah too!

  173. Top Freddy Kill:

    Super Freddy………”Faster than a bastard maniac!”

  174. It’s the original one that gets me, Hurriphin.

    My daddy had just put me to bed (I was 5) and everyone else gathered in the family room to watch it on video. I hid on the side of the couch with my head peeking out and watched the whole thing and wanted to scream but didn’t want to get caught. Everytime I see the original, it is like I am 5 all over again. The first death, the blonde, and Johnny Depp really get me. And the whole song while they are skipping rope “one two Freddy’s coming for you.”

    AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!

    No other movie scares me like that!

  175. Hurri LMAO!!!

    I would call the GT game a big win and end it there. Those other teams are (were) not very good aside from OU and they were minus their two best players. I would be careful to hype those games up.

    F$U sucks dyk

    USF sucks bigger dyk

    Anyway……

    Soooooo that is one big win in three years vs. how many big losses against opponents with inferior talent. Not good.

    I am not saying I am giving up on this team by any stretch I am just stating my serious concerns. I live and die with this program and want nothing but the best for it. END OF STORY

    Cav you can continue to support BGB all you want but the buck stops with him. Until he and his squad can start acting like an elite program on a consistent basis he gets the gas face from me.

    I am not one of those fans who expects a NC every year but I do expect a quality product on the field each and every time we step out there.

    Also that commentator was commenting on ONE play. I see Japicky stare his intended receiver down time after time and get burned for it time after time. 2009 17 picks nuff said. 2010 4 ints 2 games into the season. Notice a trend??

    Same ol same ol….. That is what bothers me.

    I just don’t believe BGB will or can take us to the next level. Until proven otherwise ON THE FIELD I am not interested in going back and forth talking about what ifs, buts and whatevers. It’s old. I go by what I have SEEN and so far not so good in the ones that count the most.

    Like I said he and the chosen one better get their shyte straight or they will both be headin out.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  176. I will tell you, Canez1 is the perfect tailgating buddy. Sarah too!

    Right back at ya love! Ur a trooper!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  177. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    That USF was kind of refreshing actually.

    I think J12 was pulled too soon in the FAMU game. If I had to do it over, I’d leave him in there through the 3rd and get more handoffs and throws, more of a groove.

    Oh well. Time to grind. I wish I knew how they’re reacting this week. Are they taking it to heart or just laughing it off???

  178. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez, I’m sure Shannon would agree with you. My point is, you want it both ways. We have chicken shyt but when they play above their head, it’s because the other teams suck. It’s NEVER because the coaches prepped them well and got a lot out of them.

    Which way do you want it cause you can’t have it both?

    J12 screwed the whole team really. Now could Shannon predict that any more than JJ could predict Vinny would toss four against PSU with that ’86 team??

    If you want to critique a coach, critique all of it, not just the losses or what you don’t like.

    And the OU game along with the GT were the ultimate proof of how Shannon turned around the team. From being blown out to blowing out and solidly beating is a 180.

    There’s still work to be done and no one, especially not me, said there isn’t.

    But if you want to blame it all on Shannon, go ahead….lol

  179. CANEZ1,

    So is it that you want Coach gone, or you simply aren’t willing to wait 3 more years for him to put a BCS caliber team on the field?

  180. I root for Randy, not just because he’s our coach, but because he’s been a life-long underdog, with a legitimate chance to make CFB history……..

    But I DON’T want to wait three more years for a BCS bid.

    And I will bid Randy adios, if someone else comes along that can do it better.

  181. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Besides, I won’t be pleased until they play Hurricane Football, EVEN IF THEY WIN.

    Now is that Shannon’s fault? Eh, I don’t know. He knows what it looks like and what it takes, more than anyone else in the whole damn school. So to some degree he should be held most responsible.

    We’ll see. For me, I just don’t recall how the teams looked from say 1994-1998. Games were hard to catch back then and I was moving around a lot in NYC. So I don’t know how long it took Butch to get things back to normal.

    That will tell me if it’s a coaching issue or if it simply TAKES TIME.

    Maybe Este, Truth, BG and some others can help me out with this. I did go to a game at Rutgers, and we looked far from dominant even though we won. Although I think it was the ’94 game AFTER the Washington game that ended the streak, so maybe that was the reason for the lazy play.

  182. Cav I am not playing it both ways. We have more talent than USF and FSU and we’re supposed to win those games. OU would have bytch slapped us again with bradford, Gresham and Broyles in that game. No doubt in my mind. We caught them at the perfect time. Don’t get it twisted.

    If a coach can only get full effort from his team once or twice a year against mediocre teams that is not going to cut it.

    Like I said I am not concerned with our one big win in three years. What concerns me are the huge losses that all look pretty much the same.

    We lose the important ones. PERIOD.

    There is no way around it bro. It is what it is at this point. Can things change? Of course but that is all speculation at this point and I am done with that nonsense.

    Blame starts up top and rolls down. Just the way it goes.

    Does the NFL fire it’s players when the team sucks?? Nope they cut the top dog.

    I didn’t make the rules ;)

    Japicky lost this game for us plain and simple. We can’t bench him because our backups blow. Why do our backups blow?? It goes on and on…..

    Bottom line is if I am wrong we all win if I’m right I told ya so!!!! LOL

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  183. I know it isnt going to happen. But maybe if J12 does throw a pick to start the Pitt game, he should be benched for a series, kinda like what happened to Berlin back in 2004 against GT when he was replaced by Kyle Wright. Light a fire under him. I havent lost faith in J12 yet, but its time to GROW UP and lead this team to its first ACC Title!

  184. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Hurri, if it takes Shannon 3 years to get to the BCS, I’m sure he’ll resign. I simply can’t imagine that. He knows the rules here.

    The only problem I think he hasn’t really solved is how to get consistent intensity out of his players.

    That’s why I wish I could see how they practice BUT you have to think he’s pushing them the way he was pushed.

    A few personnel issue still remain but even those can be remedied with intensity. (Maybe a couple of coaching issues as well..).

    Shannon, if anyone, knows that. He wasn’t a talented LB. But he had to be intense to play with those guys he played with. You couldn’t get on the field if you weren’t.

    I think this is maybe his biggest challenge as a HC. He’s solved the others but this one is the key to the kingdom.

  185. It’s a little early to say I told ya so.

  186. Hurri it really has nothing to do with wanting him out. I would much rather him succeed in all that he does here because that means my Canez are bangin.

    I put no coach or player above this program because at the end of the day they will all move on but I will still love this U unconditionally and live or die with them every week.

    He is not getting it done on the field and the chosen one that he hand picked to hitch his wagon to is faltering as well.

    We are in year 4 of the BGB experiment and two games in we have a total meltdown in a HUGE game for this program. It’s the same old story.

    If we broke our ass and went all out and played with some strength and honor I would support everyone all day long. Instead we look like an unorganized, undisciplined team with no pride or fire for this game

    Lamar mentioned it in an interview. Where are the players firing up the sideline when things are down?? I saw an OSU sideline standing and jumpin up and down going nuts while our sideline was sitting down and just staring across the field. Reminded me alot of the Champs bowl. Stuff like that that you only see in person pisses me off.

    When we continually show up to the big games and play like dogshyte I have a problem with that.

    IMHO I just don’t think BGB has what it takes to get us where we need to be for one reason or another. I look around the country and see teams all day long that I wish we looked like. Teams that play their balls off with alot less talent and just win.

    That is all I am looking for. Whether it is BGB on the sidelines and Japicky behind center really makes no difference to me as long as whoever it is is playing like real Canez do.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  187. Canez1, I think you have a valid opinion and concerns. You make some good points.

    I think most of us can do w/o Japicky and BGB. If you want to continue to insult, this ain’t the place.

    We know how you feel, but leave that out of your comments, please.

    Thanks

  188. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez1
    September 14, 2010 at 11:02 PM
    Cav I am not playing it both ways. We have more talent than USF and FSU and we’re supposed to win those games. OU would have bytch slapped us again with bradford, Gresham and Broyles in that game. No doubt in my mind. We caught them at the perfect time. Don’t get it twisted.

    >>>>>>

    What year are you talking about? This year, yeah we should whoop both USF and FSU. Last year???? No not really, esp. not after the way we played Duke and Wake.

    OU with Bradford and Gresham is all speculation since BYU beat them.

    But you can speculate glass half-empty if you want. Fact is Stoops has been there for 10 years so what’s HIS excuse for losing with a veteran squad??

    Funny how that never comes to mind. Just how they would’ve beat us IF they had this and had that.

  189. Mike you can’t be serious!

    What about those names is insulting??? They are only insulting if you believe they are true. If you don’t then they mean nothing.

    Japicky throws mad picks and Big Game Blandy can’t win a big game. Just stating the facts.

    So we can call anyone else names like Tebag and Big Game Bob Stoops but when it comes to our own fam we can’t make fun?

    Are those names really hurting anyones feelings??? I hope not because if they are then they really have some serious issues.

    Are you really going to try and censor what I say on here? Really?

    Cmon dude. We are going to start playing that game again??

    I can’t believe we are having this conversation to be totally honest.

    LMAO!!!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  190. I can’t sleep. Sick and getting sicker.

    And Mike…what’s up with that? I don’t agree with everything Canez is saying but I gotta admit, Japicky is kinda funny.

    He doesn’t mean it with malicious intent.

    Now if he kept on with that Jatwatty business I’d have problems!! LOL

    Just kidding guys…

  191. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    If we broke our ass and went all out and played with some strength and honor I would support everyone all day long. Instead we look like an unorganized, undisciplined team with no pride or fire for this game

    Lamar mentioned it in an interview. Where are the players firing up the sideline when things are down?? I saw an OSU sideline standing and jumpin up and down going nuts while our sideline was sitting down and just staring across the field. Reminded me alot of the Champs bowl. Stuff like that that you only see in person pisses me off.

    >>>>>

    I agree with you bro. It is a problem. It’s hit and miss with the enthusiasm on the team. It’s like they have a good game then take games off.

    Going from USF to Wisky just in intensity alone is absurd but it is similar to going from GT to VT.

    Two totally different teams. All between the ears.

    It’s almost like they don’t know how to act on the road.

  192. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    MM01, I think Japicky is kind of funny and DEFINITELY deserved. lol

    BGB is kind of funny too, even if only half-true.

  193. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    MM01, you’re outnumbered. JAPICKY WINS!!!! lol

  194. Big Game Bob really shouldn’t be a part of this conversation.

    He does actually have a NC.

    I’m just sayin…

    I gotta agree mike. If you’re bothered…say it. It’s all good. But we can’t get into telling anyone not to say anything because them I’m really in big trouble with some of the stuff I come up with.

  195. Cav Stoops is a tool. Thats how he got his nickname that BS is trying to take from him.

    USF and FSU sucked last year and suck this year as well.

    The point is we had more talent than EVERY team we played last year. No doubt in my mind.

    Duke and Wake are just more examples of us not playing up to our talent and being outcoached and out hustled. Nothing new.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  196. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez, heeelllll no we didn’t have more talent than the teams we played last year. Are you kiddin’ me??? haha

    Sharpton, Pipho, Trump, Fox, Phillips, Shields, Grant, ALL BELONGED AT DUKE OR LOWER.

    You crazy….lol

  197. You know…I kinda like Bob Stoops as a coach. I know he’s semi earned the Big Game Bob moniker but he’s also won some big ones, too.

    If he wouldve come to Miami before Shannon I wouldve been happy.

  198. Jatwaty was from some dude the other day saying he was twatting or tweeting or something. Goes along with Jatweety. Get it?

    It has nothing to do with his twatness or not.

    It’s a joke….

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  199. Cav IMO we had the talent. How that talent was used was another story for another time.

    It’s all subjective I guess.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  200. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Joseph, Holmes, #90, who else…..JAVARRIS, your favorite out of bounds, slow-running, always injured player.

    All of them were chick you know what. The fact that Shannon got out of them what he got, says a lot to me.

    You know as well as anyone how pizz-poor Coker recruited.

  201. I’m not trying to start crap…but I gotta say I chuckle every time thinking that Japicky name.

    That’s damn funny.

    And until Pitt I agree he’s deserved it a bit. After Pitt maybe we can get back to Jascory or Tan Marino.

  202. One thing Stoops does is he always has his boys ready to roll.

    Like him or not the dude can coach and OU is always in the hunt. Have to respect him for that.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  203. LMFAO

    I know that Canez!!!

    I had a twatting reference in the article but JSQ took it out.

    Love Jatwatty. Funny stuff.

  204. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Those were our STARTERS. Come on man!! haha

    Bottom line, though, several people need to bring Japicky and any other non-focused players into line.

    This ain’t American Idol. This is real sweat, real blood. If Japicky thinks it’s a friggin game, he needs someone to smack the taste our of his mouth and get his head back on straight.

    He can ball when he’s focused and in rhythm, not when he’s just loose.

    If he clicks, and the WRs play sharp, we’ll be fine the rest of the way.

    K-Rob needs to stick to STs though. He’s not a Boss at all.

    Shannon might need to shut down FBs too though. This shyt is outta control if you ask me.

  205. T LMAO!!! I would love nothing more than to give props again to Tan Marino.

    Shyte makes me laugh every time!

    Cav stop it. #20 should have been on that field 99% of the time. Instead we had to watch Fred Astaire out there doing nothing.

    Compare our talent to those other teams man for man and I would take us every game and so did you if I remember correctly!!!

    You never pick the Canez to lose so obviously you thought we had more talent. Ha Gotchya!!

    Unless you thought we were going to out coach them…..

    Your consistent views came back to bite ya on that one!! LOL

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  206. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Canez1
    September 14, 2010 at 11:56 PM
    One thing Stoops does is he always has his boys ready to roll.

    Like him or not the dude can coach and OU is always in the hunt. Have to respect him for that.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    >>>>>>

    That’s what I’m saying. Stoops has his system in place. It shows. Shannon doesn’t yet. I still think a few coaching moves might be needed before he really has a solid staff. He screwed himself with Walton, Nix and Hurtt. That’s costing him now to some degree. It’s out him 2 years behind where he wants and needs to be.

  207. Look. These kids need to make a name for themselves.

    Can’t say we saw missed tackles and dropped int’s and blame the coach…if the tackle was missed, that means the player was there.

    If the ball was dropped, the player was there.

    The big boss man is taking baby steps and I do agree that at times it’s frustrating. But the fact of the matter is – whether it’s a bottom line statement or not – Jacory throws those two passes on target to Hank and TB3 and doesn’t gift wrap the ball to fat boy 97 we aren’t having this conversation.

    You either believe that or you don’t.

    And I totally understand not believing it.

    But the kid isn’t going to throw 4 every week and this team IS better than it has been.

    Can’t explain the lack of emotions on the sideline. But if they win no one would care.

    And that’s why I hear you, Canez…you want them to win. I get it. So do I.

  208. By the player was there I meant the coaches put them in the position to be successful.

  209. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    You never pick the Canez to lose so obviously you thought we had more talent. Ha Gotchya!!

    Unless you thought we were going to out coach them…..

    Your consistent views came back to bite ya on that one!! LOL

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    >>>>>>>>

    Haha, I can’t pick my Canes to lose unless they’re clearly outmatched.

    I don;t remember making picks after VT though. And definitely not after UCF. That game was sobering because it took so long to put those guys away and because of the number of sacks.

    I remember being uncertain the rest of the year after those. Hell, I didn’t know what to expect against USF.

    And now, going back an watching the highlights of those games, with those guys, it’s surprising we won as a many as we did.

  210. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    T, it’s the weirdest thing on road games with these kids. It’s like they literally don’t know how to act or react. Maybe they were in shock by Japicky’s play.

    Haha, I hope this nickname gets back to him. Sometimes men/boys need to be insulted for motivation.

    But that’s what you get when your first nickname was Jascory. haha

  211. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Alright ya’ll. I’m out.

    Like T said, it’s time for this TEAM to make a name for themselves. We’ll see how much they hate losing and hate playing poorly in ten days.

  212. I believe its an insult, and this is a Canes board. This is home base.

    I would rather U not comment those terms, please.

    I’m not asking you to change your opinion, b/c its a good one. I’m asking you to leave those terms from your comments, that’s all. I’m not going to censor your thoughts or comments.

    Would U blog the term Teabag on a UF blog? No. U would be crucified if U did.

  213. T good points and trust me when I say I wish we were not having this convo about this or that after every big game.

    It’s getting old real quick!

    Pitt can’t come quick enough. I hate that we have the long wait now for this stupid Thurs game.

    Should be a crazy night. I’m looking forward to it just not the long ass drive again.

    Rte 70 is a death trap. We saw 3 fatal accidents involving trucks on the ride to Columbus. Crazy!

    I think traveling that road during the day is a must. The way home was a breeze.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  214. If the kid is comedic enough to take a pic of himself in some gayass raiders jumper and post on twatter I think even he would see the humor in earning the nick Japicky.

    I’m just sayin mike…

    Tebag is on a whole other level…

  215. I’m out guys…

    Pitt can’t get here fast enough.

    Not for me.

    Not for Cav

    Not for mike

    Not for Japicky.

    Just kidding mike!!! Take it easy…

    Good night all.

  216. I forgot you Canez

    Pitt can’t get here fast enough for Canez either!!!
    LOL

    Now I’m out.

    Pray I don’t die tonight. Thanks!

  217. I’ll compromise…

    LIMIT the term until after Pitt. If he throws 2 or more INTs during that game, I’ll back completely off.

    Deal?

  218. Dolphins have been searching for tight ends who they can develop and challenge John Nalbone. After auditioning many (including ex-FSU tight end Caz Piurowski) in recent days, they instead added an ex-Cane: Agent Brett Tessler said on his weekly appearance on WINZ-940 that Miami signed Dedrick Epps to the practice squad. Epps, who spent camp with San Diego, had 19 catches for 247 yards for UM in 2009.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/14/1825002/parcells-stays-on-to-back-sparano.html#ixzz0zZMe1qqa

  219. I’m gonna stick up for my QB and HC, so if anyone has a problem with that, let me know.

    I still believe in this team and their ability. And my HC. He’s a Hurricane through and through, and I’m with him until the bitter end, if it ever comes.

    If U disagree, fine. I can live with that.

  220. wow – very good blogging.

    truth – good blog that really got the ball rolling. feel better.
    schwarma – good question (regarding our earlier dynasty and whether it’s possible to repeat)
    HearAcane – liked your metaphor of that high point to the moon landing.

    and of course i appreciated “saffron” . . . right! with “E lec trick al banana . . . ”
    i knew it was “mello yellow” not mello jello; a sorry attempt at a lame joke.

    nash – always thought it’s too bad “austria” & “australia” are so close word-wise; the mistaken identity happens OFTEN.

  221. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Mike I’m with you. Canez1 is entitled to his opinion and I wouldn’t censor him unless he goes overboard, but I’m all in with the current regime. What’s my other choice? As far as Jatwa…I really don’t like this. It sounds like you’re calling the guy a twat. Would you say it to his face? I doubt it. Even with the tough online personna that is feigned.

  222. Miami ONLY highlights vs tOSU. I didn’t think we had 10:23 secs of highlights….

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Jqy4bWRXL8

  223. Why do I get the feeling at times that Barry Jackson at the Herald is trying to cause team dissension….

    Some post-loss UM buzz: Some players are surprised Kendal Thompkins — impressive all spring — hasn’t gotten more playing time after Thearon Collier’s dismissal. They believe he could help. Thompkins and dangerous deep threat Tommy Streeter had no offensive chances Saturday.

    Receivers love Jacory Harris as a person but do not like taking a beating from defensive backs who are positioned to make jarring hits because Harris throws some floaters without great velocity. As Gino Torretta said on WQAM-560, “Why all the touch passes?” He said Harris must throw harder at times and questioned why UM doesn’t use more slant routes and bubble screens.

  224. Seems Boise State was the FIRST team to ban Twitter for athletes during the season.

    http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/09/15/1824583/miami-hurricanes-players-ordered.html

  225. After looking at some of those highlights and the deep outs J12 was asked to throw (which IS the hardest throw in football to make) he DOES have enough arm strength at this level. Not LASER BEAMS, but they get there on time. What he has to get better at is that knowing when to use touch and went to put some SPIT on it. So Gino’s statements about why so many touch passes does have merit.

  226. At the 5:17 mark look at Marcus Forston…WoW! If he gives that kind of effort and plays like that EVERYTIME sky is the limit.

  227. Look at the run blocking at the 7:30 mark. Big O destroys his guy!

  228. That’s why Hank Golberg always call him “Bary Jackass”

    He usually only gets half the story right.

  229. I am okay with being a critic and calling out mistakes but I must say I am not a fan of name calling.

    Since Nicole goes to school with these guys, I hear stories, I know things about them. You will no longer hear me say real critical things. My perspective has changed quite a bit in the last 2 years.

    I was driving home from school last night, listening to Mad Dog radio on Sirius, they were running a New York station. I was listening to jet fan call in with their complaints from the Monday night game. Call after call insults, horrible things being said. The last caller was just going off and I said to the radio “Dude you need a life”. I then took a moment and said to myself, “Holy Moly, Do I sound like that?”……..”Do I need a life?”. UGH!

  230. The origin of twatting comes from Cathy Griffith talking about her twitter account. When questioned as to whether she has one or not she said “oh yes! I twat!”

    Thus people began to use the phrase twatting.

    Jatwatty has nothing to do with the nastiest word used to describe my #1 favorite place on all the planet. It’s merely a comical revision of jatwitty – Cathy Griffith style.

    And yes, personally, I would say Jatwatty or jatwitter or japicky to his face because there’s nothing mean about it.

    It’s funny.

  231. And I hope you guys know I am only playing around. I don’t have any ill feelings at all towards any of these kids. They’re all players – good ones – and they’re going to make us all forgot OSU real quick.

    But come on!!! Japicky is funny!!! If we can call him jascory after throwing 4 TD’s we can tease him with japicky after 4 pics, right??

    Right?

  232. And bg

    It wasn’t just that he threw the deep outs, but notice when they were called and who they were thrown to.

    Jacory just seemed very unsure out there and I think that’s when his ball gets floaty.

    Jafloaty?

    JUST KIDDING!!! LOL

  233. avatar
    badbadleroybrown says:

    I think a single game is important only in how you respond for the next one. I have the game on the DVR but from what I’ve seen in the past from Jacory, I would guess the O-line let the D in and he was either hit while in motion or made a bad decision forcing the ball. You aren’t going to face big lines like that for the rest of the season so it will improve. You played solid last year, some flailing around after losses but as the coaching staff matures and the team leaders become products of a long-term Shannon core you should see the issue of commitment, heart and effort disappear. I think you need at least six seasons to see what a football coach can offer and just a few key injuries can be real trouble. Good luck on the rest of the season, at least you have your team available to play…

  234. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .

    If it comes from Cathy Griffin then it was definitely meant to be a play on the “twat” meaning of the word.

    I think it’s crude and disrespectful. In fact I don’t beleive in calling any players any names. I don’t even do it that much for other teams, with the exception of Oscar Meyer.

    jmo – not trying to start any sh*t, but personally, I just don’t beleive in it. Maybe it has something to do with having a kid who might play collegiate sports at the next level, but I’m just not down with the name calling.

  235. I really hate the word tw@t, to me it is right up there with the c word.

  236. The Truth
    September 15, 2010 at 8:31 AM
    But come on!!! Japicky is funny!!! If we can call him jascory after throwing 4 TD’s we can tease him with japicky after 4 pics, right??
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    i would agree with you . . . just hard to put in writing, 'cause i don't want to seem disrespectful to mm01 . . . who i usually support in these types of things.

  237. bg – thanks for the highlight connection.

    hope the full game will be out some day.

  238. Ccc, cc and everyone…

    I AM ONLY SCREWING AROUND!!!

    I just it’s all silly and I’m delirious from this cold I have and it’s all I can do to laugh.

    I’m just kicking ant piles here…that’s all.

  239. Hurrumph!

    Nice to see you survived the night T.

  240. And I’m with you CC

    T@at is such a vile word…

  241. The “c” word is a pretty good way to describe a really mean b*itch, though…

  242. Japicky is hilarous… I like Jafloaty too. The “t” word one… me nolikey so much. That one comes off as an insult.

  243. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .

    Truth – you’re good with me. I have great respect for just about everybody that blogs here. You, cc, everybody.

    Having daughters as well, I guess a few things I’m sensitive about like cc.

    Anyway, a lot of great info this morning. I do agree with the criticism of J12’s play this last game. His sideline demeanor even bothered me more. As far as his touch passing. He’s probably got the best touch pass in the game, but yeah, he needs to rocket some passes in rather than floating them like what bg was referring to. If he can throw the deep out, he can throw it on a rope when needed. Jacory has to take responsibility for his QB play as well as Whipple. He is the oc AND qb coach after all.

  244. Truth I know you are teasing, just really hate that word. I am quite sure the guys have their own nicknames for each other but it just looks kinda silly for us old people calling them names. Just my opinion.

  245. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    Truth good article. A little harsh on the grade thought. I agree it was bad but some positives would bump it up to a D+. Berry ran the ball affectively when given the chance and offensive line performed pretty well. The only way this team moves forward is if J12 grows up. I believe the U has always been about competition. At every position somebody is fighting for there job. Right now Jacory is not afraid of losing his job. He has nobody behind him to push him or make him a better QB. A little competition never hurt nobody. And that is how the great QB’s of the U strived to be great because they were pushed by somebody behind him. Honestly Whipple and Highsmith are not putting fear in him. If he makes a mistake he does not have the fear of being taken out of the game. After the 4th INT regardless of who’s fault it is, needs to be taken out. The D evaluation was spot on. Its funny to hear a seminole talk trash especially since they got there a$$ handed to them. Real funny.

  246. Like I said yesterday

    Any offensive unit that throws 4 pics – 3 in it’s own territory – has 9 dropped passes, 2 TD’s missed on poor throws and only puts up 10 points is a miserable fail.

    No two ways about it.

  247. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .

    Reading what you wrote makes my blood boil.

    We eliminate half those mistakes we’re in that game. Not saying we win it, but damn close.

    That sh*t better end at Pitt.

  248. Dude what is wrong with you people.

    Read up if you are going to comment. NO ONE IS INSULTING ANYONE!! I REPEAT NO ONE IS INSULTING ANYONE!!!!!!

    It has NOTHING to do with calling him a tw@t!!!!! Why would anyone do that? I have never called anyone that in my life.

    It’s a play on the word tweet that someone mentioned a couple blogs back. Do I really have to spell it out??

    And the saying it to his face comment….REALLY!!! LMFAO stop with that fukin nonsense.

    If you don’t like something or just don’t understand what people are talking about just ignore it instead of chiming in when you have no idea what is going on.

    Jesus fukking christ

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  249. T I think we bounce back strong on O at Pitt.

    With Romeus out their pass rush really takes a hit.

    The QB is starting for the first time this year and as we know too well that is always a rollercoaster.

    I feel good about this game. I think we pick it up and get it done.

    Handle Lewis and the game is over. The O feeds off of him.

    Should be a great atmosphere there. I can’t wait.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  250. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .
    You’re going overboard. Don’t be so touchy. You can say what you want but no one else is allowed to comment on it? Get outta here.

    Chiming in is what a blog is all about.

    Calm down.

  251. Pitt game should be fun.

    All I say is win!

  252. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    At this point, I’ll take a 1 point win and like it.

  253. CanesCanesCanes
    September 15, 2010 at 9:54 AM
    At this point, I’ll take a 1 point win and like it.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    need to stomp 'em . . .

    need lots of stomping over the next 3 months . . . rinse out that bad taste.

  254. LMAO Canez, calm down dude. I use twitter so I totally understand where the term comes from I just said it “comes off” as an insult.

    The nicknames are hilarious AND he earned them.

    As for Pitt… they need to show me something big. I’m tired of hearing how much potential this team has. They need to just go out there and romp someone.

  255. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    If we win out with one point wins the rest of the way, I’ll take it. We just need to fly out of Pitt with a win. One step at a time. The stomping comes later, hopefully. I’m not setting myself up with the attitude that we have to stomp, or else. Just win, baby.

  256. CanesCanesCanes
    September 15, 2010 at 10:11 AM
    I’m not setting myself up with the attitude that we have to stomp, or else.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    too late – the expectations are already there.

    that said, i'll come to terms with any result that's posted and will still support the canes.

    but man, a loss would do some major damage to my inner adolescent.

  257. Kelly-Bernie-Vinnie, other than that all our qbs at The U were just good college qbs who got the ball in the hands of the playmakers and did not throw picks. Only at one point did we have two on the team at the same time (Vinny/Bernie).

    The fact that we have no one behind Jacory is no big deal, it’s reality at most colleges. The fact that Jacory doesn’t seem to be getting more careful with the ball as his career goes along is a big deal. Maybe he was injured last year and was still learning. Maybe this game will be the wake up call he needs and he’ll be carefull with the ball from here on out. We’ll see. He’s still our best option at the position ( I don’t blame anyone for that, just the way it is in the college game.).

    And I won’t be happy against Pitt unless we crush them. No excuses.

    (Got your info Canez1. Be in touch next week)

  258. Wow, people are TOUCHY!

    Our team deserves some criticism right now. I am not going to Pollyanna out on you all and say they are perfect.

    However, I will not call J12 or Randy names. Some of them might be warranted and/or funny, but I think it actually undermines the intelligent commentary many of you are making. Just sayin.

    I will also not ban, delete, or edit someone who is saying the names. Mike won’t either and that was not what he was getting at last night.

    Any comparisons to what goes on at TOS are OFFENSIVE and COMPLETELY OFF-BASE. We are just stating our opinions, not playing blog gestapo. I would rather you guys call me a suckeye fan than say our blog is like TOS.

    So, say what you feel, but remember, a lot of the guys read this site. Randy and I have talked about the site before and I know from my friend that is Kirby’s right hand man that both Randy and Kirby have read it. Heck, Mike interviewed almost the entire freshman class and I know they read. Most of the players are Facebook fans of the site. Just think about how you are coming off when you say certain things. We are all upset over the loss and most of us on here can take a joke, but sometimes when things are said, it makes the speaker look bandwagon.

    NONE OF YOU ARE BANDWAGON so I would hate for you to be perceived as such.

    Especially since we are gonna beat that panther a$$ next Thursday and all of this will be moot and forgotten.

    GO ‘CANES!!!!

  259. Yeah, DZ8 we all saw what happened when Colt McCoy (whom I LOVE LOVE LOVE!) went down in the NC.

    That no viable back-up option served Texas pretty well until the NC.

    Just sayin. It’s reality. And Bernie almost transferred until Schnelly talked him out of it because Bernie thought Vinny was too good to compete with.

  260. KL LMAO!! I wasn’t directing that towards you or CC. Sorry if you thought I was.

    I am just sick of yappin about something that really was no big deal.

    That’s all.

    Still Salty…..

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  261. Just in case you didn’t get the reference:

    Pol·ly·an·na   /ˌpɒliˈænə/ Show Spelled[pol-ee-an-uh] –noun

    1. an excessively or blindly optimistic person.

    2. Mary Clark when talking about her ‘Canes

  262. Roger that DZ.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  263. salt·y   /ˈsɔlti/ Show Spelled[sawl-tee]
    –adjective, salt·i·er, salt·i·est.
    1. tasting of or containing salt; saline.
    2. piquant; sharp; witty.
    3. racy or coarse: salty humor.
    4. of the sea, sailing, or life at sea.
    5. Canez1 after a ‘Canes loss

  264. bg, the only thing that this team doesn’t have is mental execution from the qb on a consistent basis. This team will play as consistent as jacory harris executes and mark whipples play-calling. j12 has everything it takes to win every game he plays. The main thing, this team is good enuff now to beat every team in college football. Also, it’s time to either get a special teams coach or put players out their that want to make tackles. We clean up those 2 areas, if we just cleaned up special teams alone, that would always keep us in the ball game until the offense decides to come around.

    If our special teams coverage continues to be this bad, fluzzi has to be relieved of that duty, it’s 4 years of bad kick off coverage, their is no pride of being the best kick-off coverage team in college football.

    special teams kept us in the ball game saturday and it also kept us from coming back. fluzzi is in over his head, he’s good at taking advantage of special teams from an offensive standpoint, but defensively, it’s been pathetic.

    Canez1, i’m tired of holding my breath and clapping because we actually made a normal kick-off coverage stop, that’s suppose to be routine. That alone would’ve changed the complexion of that game, even with all the turn-overs. Also, it shouldn’t have to be said, but i’ll put it like this, if whipple can’t find a way to utilize the offensive skill players better, particularly, lamar miller and damien berry, than that guy has alot more work to do as an offensive coordinator. That’s his unti, and for his unit to only put up 10 points at UM, that’s unexceptable.

    shannon as the headcoach is trying to let the coordinators do their thing, but at times, shannon may have to intervene and let whipple know what he wants. If i’m a headcoach and i say keep running it, don’t look atme like i’m crazy, give me a good running play, because whether it gets us the 1st down or not, i’m a headcoach, i’m looking more at the flow of the game, how the qb is playing and also, testing the osu d-liine. I would’ve kept pounding berry, even on third and 3 or 4, but it would’ve been out of the 4 wide receiver set. Or if you keep miller in the backfield, 3 or 4 wide outs, and hand him a draw, that’s a high percentage play.

    forston won the battle against brewster, franklin won the battle against heyward, i was proud of franklin, that man showed up and did his thing on heyward. He’s the left tackle and one of the guys on this team that needs to start speaking up more, especially to jacory. As stated, jacory just needs to worry about running the offense, not worry about staying calm so his teammates can be calm, that’s a joke statement. If i’m on defense, i’m not worried about being calm, or if the qb is calm, i’m trying to go out their and bust somebody’s azz.

    We shouldn’t be in panic mode games anyway with this offense. From here on in, it’s ultimately on shannon, but if whipple is going to bark and tell shannon not to worry about the offense, he got it, than from here on out, we’re really going to see. figs playing right tackle is a disaster waiting to happen with speed guys, now if he can get his hands on them, he’s straight, or he needs to force those guys to have to go around him more, although figs did hold up well for the most part, the whole game.

    I see you gave the offense and F grade, but i saw to many mismatches we had out their, torrence couldn’t cover travis benjamin 1 on 1 to save his life, neither could eny of their db’s. None of them could check hankerson 1 on 1, and wtf kind of block was laron byrd throwing at the 4:28 mark of that video bg put up, he gives a better block and damien berry might still be running. shout out to berry for coming in ballin. Also, brandon washington, that guy is the real deal, once his pass blocking catches up with his run blocking, he’ll be a bonafide 1st round draft pick.

    I know they keep saying they want linder at center, but what happened to all the guard talk when he came in. I can live with tyler horn at center, if we can get a right guard to be consistent.

    This team is more talented than last years squad by a long shot. The problem with whipple is, he doesn’t understand that these are not pro players, alot of them will be pro’s, but some will not, i’m saying that to say, at some point, he’s got to realize their is still a developmental phase going on, to many times i see whipple looking frustratd in big games as if he’s not sure what to call, if he’s the head offensive man doing that, that’s not a good look for the players.

    That’s why i know in whipples mind, when he made that statement to shockey in the tunnel about “don’t worry shock, we won’t let them lose again” i’m hoping that’s a sign that whip understands a whole lot better in what to do than in what not to do. I think to many times teams are trying to not show another team something the week before, to me, i wouldn’t care if they knew what was coming the week before we got their, you’re going to have to prove to me you can stop what we do, and than i’ll go to plan B after that, but if plan A is working, than i can do what i want, our guys need more reptitions with plan A in live action.

  265. Surly is another good word for some of us after a Canes defeat.

    inclined to anger or bad feelings with overtones of menace; “an ugly frame of mind

  266. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Just win on Thursday.

  267. bg, the only thing that this team doesn’t have is mental execution from the qb on a consistent basis. Calvin

    BINGO!!!! My daughter sent me a :( text after the game and I texted back,”This team is good but Jacory needs a spiritual advisor, are you available?” (meaning my daughter cuz she is a great leader and motivator). Ray Lewis is such a good player right now because he has learned the art of meditation. He took a year to study Eastern philosophies.

    Sorry if I was testy Canez 1 and truth, did not mean you were insulting anyone. Just not a fan of name calling. I was just amazed at listening to jet fan(who I cannot stand) after that MNF game. It made me think about how I may act or react to football. These guys were going off the deep end and the Jets have a good team who needs to work on a few things. And who played a VERY TALENTED Ravens defense, who might make a otherwise good team look bad. The comparisons were kinda the same cuz Sanchez looked completely unfocused.

    I love all on here and I know we are all different and have different views but that is what makes us all great!

    GO CANES!

  268. canechic
    September 15, 2010 at 8:53 AM
    . . . it just looks kinda silly for us old people calling them names. Just my opinion.
    <<<<<<<<<<<

    exactly . . . i'm so old i can't even feel comfortable calling our opponents names (for example, florida is florida for me; never"gayturds"), much less our players.

    but a young, testosterone-spewing, buckeroo like canez1, well . . . i don't get offended by it, but i can imagine it might get on the nerves of some.

  269. Calvin, one thing about whip that I think I see is he trys to be too creative with his play calling, trying to much trickory IMO…jus line up and go at em…like the 1st or 2nd play of the game with 3oline men to the wide side trying to trick sum1 that early in the game, now U in 3rd and long having the qb think he gotta make sumthin happen….like truth said this team wasn’t manhandled up front so give the ball to berry, james, and miller early and often, force to bring xtra ppl to stop it then all those dlinemen won’t be so quick to drop into coverage.

  270. J12 just sent out an apology for Saturday on twitter… and now he’s gone.

    That is my last post about twitter.

    Go Canes!!! Beat Pitt!!

  271. Nashvillecane says:
    September 15, 2010 at 11:38 AM

    Calvin, one thing about whip that I think I see is he trys to be too creative with his play calling, trying to much trickory IMO…jus line up and go at em…like the 1st or 2nd play of the game with 3oline men to the wide side trying to trick sum1 that early in the game, now U in 3rd and long having the qb think he gotta make sumthin happen….like truth said this team wasn’t manhandled up front so give the ball to berry, james, and miller early and often, force to bring xtra ppl to stop it then all those dlinemen won’t be so quick to drop into coverage.

    Great point!

  272. This from Greg Cote:

    GATORS REACH ARREST MILESTONE: I guess congratulations are in order as Florida WR Chris Rainey’s bust marks the 30th Gator arrest of the Urban Meyer era. (That’s 29 more than have occured at UM under Randy Shannon, for those scoring at home). I’m not sure, but I think when the Gator totals reaches 50 arrests, players should wear a commemorative jersey patch

    Read more: http://blogs.herald.com/random_evidence/2010/09/xxx-xxx-xxx-xxx-.html#ixzz0zcFaar8F

  273. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    commemorative jersey patch

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    LMAO

  274. we love u jafoury come back hard aganist pitt!!!

  275. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    .

    Come on Canes.

    Show ‘em what you got against Pitt. Come out “salty” and stay pisssed the whole game.

  276. Herbstreit said we can run the table if we eliminate mistakes.

    http://www.wqam.com/index.php?page=347&sid=i8si47pj3qhv6fqeqeq3bf2kaj0bsvho

  277. JSQ…….The “big head” has your picture up on his blog….royalties anyone?

  278. lalalalalalalalalalalalalala

  279. not taking the bait set by a pathetic homely loser

    lalalalalalalalalalalaala

  280. avatar
    BIG DADDY CANE says:

    Once the play calling get better the team will get bettre.. I agree Calvin we should stick to what works and not deviate from that. We have a whole lot of time to look at our mistakes so we should come out more attentive and ready to play. Jacory does need to be more a vocal leader instead of a little passive. Sponge Bob is not our mentality nor is it how we should play. I know he shows little emotions but hey when is the time when he steps up listen to the criticism and take a stand. He also has to realize his career in college football will be coming to an end soon and NFL Scouts are looking for matureness, leadership, play ability and accuracy from his Qb position. He keeps this up he may go undrafted because no one will take a chance on him with his spotty play. He plays sometimes like the USF QB ..can look good sometimes but look bad on others with bad decisions. U see the NFL is looking for winners NOT INCONSISTENCY.

    Now for our fan base it is like peoples attitude towards the economy.. they just don’t have enough patience and some of it is some hidden negative agenda towards Shannon. Look the man got us out of this hell hole we were in a few years back. Yeah we still have some improvement but that doesn’t mean you throw players under the bus including the head coach especially what he has done so far for our program…if this was the 06 team with C’ker we would of got blown out of the horseshoe so give the man some credit of getting competitive players now. I know many of us support the team while others sit and complain about every and anything negative that comes our way. I know we’ll get better, we have no choice but to. This game against Pitt will show us just how far the program has changed after a loss..EITHIER WE GO CRAWL UP UNDER A ROCK OR WE COME OUT LIKE MEN AND DOMINATE…Those are our only choices..nothing else.

  281. Looks like I will be seeing LSU/West Virginia next weekend but no Saints. Oh well. It’s not like this is my last trip to New Orleans or anything. :-/

  282. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH10) says:

    From Joe Rose’s blog. Herbie still loves the Canes:

    ESPN’s Kirk Herbstreit joined me on the show Wednesday morning and was encouraged by the Miami Hurricanes’ performance againts No. 2 Ohio State in Columbus.

    “I looked at Miami and I looked at a team that was physical, I looked at a team that was athletic,” Herbstreit said. “I looked at a team that, if Ohio State’s number two in the country, then how can Miami be a team that’s not considered a top 10 team?

    “Because, if you eliminate those mistakes, Miami’s playing right there with Ohio State. Athletically, maybe more gifted than Ohio State,” he added.

    “There’s no reason that this team should not have a chance to win every single game they play the rest of the season

  283. new blog up!

  284. JSQ says:
    September 15, 2010 at 1:12 PM
    not taking the bait set by a pathetic homely loser

    lalalalalalalalalalalaala

    Not Taking the Bait?????? You know he is the Master Baiter lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

  285. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    MM01, Japicky and Jafoury aren’t that deep. No one’s trying to insult the kid but in a family or a neighborhood, if you mess up you’re going to get a little nickname until you prove otherwise.

    And I’m glad Gino’s saying things publicly about Jacory’s throws. That means he and the other QB godfather’s are You can;t live on touch passes alone.

    And Franklin may have played himself into 1st Round money cause he dominated Heyward on a lot of plays.

  286. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    JSQ, haha, love how you use the word “homely”. One of the best and least used words in English. hahaha

  287. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Cal, you know we’ve been talking about Whipple’s sself-trickery for a while now. His best games are those where we just attack. If you want to throw on 1st then friggin ATTACK on 1st. Don’t fake yourself out and do nothing to fake out the defense.

    Shyt’s played out now. This ain’t D-II

  288. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    Watching the game….on the first drive the DL more or less held their own and made some plays…LBs are just not there, not filling the gaps. They overpursue, C-Mac, or are just slow and late K-Rob. DVD looked ridiculous on the 1st pass. WTF was he doing?

    If C-Mac could just SLOW THE FUK DOWN and stop imitating Sharpton, we would be SO much better.

    He’s going to be one of the keys against Pitt, no doubt.

    K-Rob doesn’t need to be on the field. Seriously. I don’t get him playing at all.

  289. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    1st offensive play was just STUPID!!! Get the ball to friggin Benjamin. They gave him a 10 yard cushion and he was 1 on 1.

    2nd call was almost as stupid, running wide from your ten.

    Whipple called a scared game. Scared to challenge them. Scared of their DL. Sacred of our OL’s ability to handle them.

    That’s a serious issue. If you’re going to run.

  290. avatar
    Captain Optimist says:

    C-Mac is lost in the middle unless the play is coming directly to him.

    He ALWAYS gets blocked, usually runs right into the block.

    Jesus. The DL is going to have to play lights out against Pitt. Pitt’s going to score as well, because of our LBs alone.

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