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Miami vs. Florida State Recap

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Well ‘Canes fans, there’s not really much more to say about what happened Saturday night without rehashing what I’m sure is on all of our minds. Miami was taken behind the woodshed, suffering an embarrassing loss to our arch rival, the Florida State Seminoles, 45-17.

The ‘Noles took an early and commanding lead, sucking the life out of sold-out Sun Life Stadium that was begging to erupt with every positive play and score. The city of Miami showed up to support the ‘Canes, casual and hardcore fans alike, waiting, hoping, for a reason to scream, holler, and celebrate this team.

Those moments didn’t come. Almost from the very beginning, Florida State dominated the Hurricanes in every phase of the game.

Other than another typical Leonard Hankerson receiving performance, I’ve searched the web and my brain to try and find some positives to take away from this game. Damien Berry had a 100 yard game with a touchdown.

Unfortunately, that’s all I can come up with. I’d like to hear about some positives I may have missed.

The internet message boards, the newspaper blogs, this blog, and radio call-in shows are jammed with expressions of disappointment and deep concern. As well they should be.

Miami had a chance to serve notice to the country and the ACC, only to let down the fan base in front of a national TV audience and remind us, once again, that the “U” isn’t back, at least not yet. As much as JSQ tried to will a win with delicious tailgate food and enough pure, unadulterated fandom for the whole county of Dade, it just wasn’t in the cards last Saturday night.

It’s the same song and dance: couldn’t tackle, too many dropped passes, bad penalties, poor kick and punt coverage, an inaccurate QB, no rhythmic play calling on offense, and maybe worst of all, no emotion. All these reasons are troubling. And what’s especially troubling is these problems have existed for a few years and there seems like no improvement has been made.

Last week I talked about how Randy Shannon has rebuilt this program from almost the ground up, graduating his players and keeping them out of trouble. Shannon has done a great job with restoring the program’s image off the field. I also mentioned about how the ‘Canes had returned to national relevance under his watchful eye.

Not so fast, my friend.

That talk was premature. As even the blind could see, Miami is just not ready to take center stage again. FSU exposed UM’s weaknesses early and often. This is not a loss that will fade with memory or after drinking eleventy beers. It’s definitely a dark chapter in this series if you clad yourself in orange and green.

I know what you’re thinking. How about Miami’s image on the field? When can we expect to tailgate all day on Saturday knowing when we walk into the no home-field advantage stadium we currently play in, and expect a certain ‘Canes victory and we can all start the after-party at halftime?

But all is not lost, ‘Canes fans. Winning cures what ails and there are still seven games remaining on the schedule. With a renewed sense of urgency and determination, our beloved Hurricanes can still make noise this season. As bad as last weekend’s loss is, there’s not a game on the schedule that isn’t winnable. Miami still controls their destiny in the ACC, and until that control is lost, let’s try not to press the panic button.

So, in conclusion, let’s ask some tough questions in the wake of this loss.

1) Where does the “U” go from here?

2) What are your expectations for the rest of the season?

3) What changes or tweaks would you make if you were Randy Shannon?

4) How confident are you that Miami can get back on track and still make something of this season?

5) Rate your confidence level on a scale of 1-to-10, regarding Jacory Harris. 1= Bench him, I have no faith in J12. 10= I still believe J12 can bring home an ACC Championship and deliver a BCS Bowl Game berth.

6) Rate your confidence level on a scale of 1-to-10, regarding your level of support for the team. 1= Not spending another dime until changes are made. 10= I heart the Hurricanes and will support them even if they lose the rest of their games.

  1. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    go canes!

  2. congrats dave

  3. My confidence in the entire Miami Football program right now is a 2.5

  4. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Andrew Smith….

    [on playing on the road] We don’t have our home fans. We’ve all got each other’s back. We can’t look in the stands and say we’ve got them on our side. It’s everybody against us. That’s the mentality we take going into the game. We’re excited for this week, to get back on the road and take care of business.”

  5. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    “We’ve just got to make a statement this week and get back on track like we had been. We had a little setback. Now we’ve just got to keep looking forward, get right back on track.”

    — [on playing on the road] We don’t have our home fans. We’ve all got each other’s back. We can’t look in the stands and say we’ve got them on our side. It’s everybody against us. That’s the mentality we take going into the game. We’re excited for this week, to get back on the road and take care of business.”

    — [on Tuesday's practice] “Everybody’s focused. Everybody was ready to get back in the full swing of things. …We’ve got to keep asking each other for more. We’ve got to get more out of everybody.”

  6. Nice first, Dave.

  7. 5) Rate your confidence level on a scale of 1-to-10, regarding Jacory Harris. 1= Bench him, I have no faith in J12. 10= I still believe J12 can bring home an ACC Championship and deliver a BCS Bowl Game berth.

    1

    6) Rate your confidence level on a scale of 1-to-10, regarding your level of support for the team. 1= Not spending another dime until changes are made. 10= I heart the Hurricanes and will support them even if they lose the rest of their games.

    10

  8. 10 is my support, not my confidence level, btw.

  9. Coach said J12 is back normal…

    I smell BS!

  10. I don’t believe it for a second, bg!

  11. J12=5
    Randy=6

    Supporting the Team=10 (that will never change regardless)

  12. back to normal? health wise?

  13. My 1 for “bench him” applies to the Duke game. We’ll see after that.

  14. JOHN GRUDEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  15. I don’t want to hear how focused they are or how much they want to take care of business. I just want them to SHOW ME! (I think I just sounded like bg there – but he does have a point)

  16. My faith in all aspects of this team remain a solid 10. Not much that can be changed now so why not.

    FSU might be in Tallahassee, but the percentage of locals that attend the school is not that high. Most of the FSU students come from S.FLA, Central FLA, and Jacksonville. So feel free to bash FSU, but I gotta stand up for my city.

  17. Yep, KL, everything sounds like the teacher on Peanuts until they back it up on the field.

    WA-WA-WA-WA

  18. Thanks for all the kind words :), means so much!

  19. We love you, Canechic.

  20. Yeah CC don’t worry about these internet “gangstas”. If you got the balls to say what you type directly to my face, then I can respect that. 9 times out of 10 that isn’t gonna happen

  21. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Confidence in J12 = 2

    Confidence in Randy Shannon= 1 Show me the wins!!!!

    Support for the team= 10…. A Cane faithful since 1957

    Confidence that Morris could develop into a very good QB and winner= 8

  22. Robert Smith interview…

    Listen: http://www.790theticket.com/jorgesedano.aspx

  23. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    I think there is something internally wrong with this team. A chemistry problem, I have no facts, just the old eye-ball test. A QB that doesn’t talk to his line or receivers. Coaches that show no passion on the side lines. Players laughing on the sidelines while they are getting their butts kicked.
    I frankly can’t relate to any of that.

    To answer the above questions is difficult, because the cause of the meltdown is deeper than watching film and making corrections. This team could go either way.

    The ball is in Shannon’s court. It’s time to produce on the field. I’m rooting for him, he is a man’s man. I love what he has done to get these kids a degree and stay out of trouble. The kids need to repay Shannon, by laying it on the line and taking their job seriously. And coach, if you’re playing favorites, stop it and give others a chance to see the field. I thought it was all about competition. (anyone who has played team sports, knows the best guy’s are not always the starters or get the most playing time)

    This team can go either way, it is up to the coaches and the players. I’m just a fan, so what do I know!

  24. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    1) The U goes to US AGAINST THE WORLD and becomes FRIGGIN SOLDIERS! I expect them to get back to their ROOTS.

    2) I expect them to play like warriors and try to demolish everything in front of them. BACK TO THE ROOTS.

    3) Randy Shannon must do 2 things:

    #1 HE MUST REEL IN MARK WHIPPLE!!!! After watching Stanford dismantle Wake Forest by doing nothing more than running POWER-I football mixed with 10-15 yard pass plays, with players that probably wouldn’t make our 2-deep, except for Luck and the OL, I can say with absolute certainty THAT SHANNON DID NOT EXPECT THIS SHYT FROM WHIPPLE WHEN HE BROUGHT HIM IN.

    Whipple is making this SO MUCH HARDER THAN IT HAS TO BE.

    MM01, I’d actually like to write a blob about this very subject cause Whipple is fukin this thing up the opposite way Nix did. Nix was too simple. Whipple is too hard.

    #2 He absolutely MUST figure out some solution or bandage for C-Mac. If it means blitzing him up the middle on damn near every play, or faking the blitz and dropping back into a zone coverage scheme…something has to be done because he’s CLUELESS if he’s not blitzing.

    4) I’m confident because I’ve seen them play well this year. They were on the cusp, especially on defense, then they let up and the offense collapsed then the defense did the same.

    5) J12= 7.0 He’s fine Whipple’s the problem. Truth, I don’t care what you say. Watch Stanford and tell me we can’t do the exact same shyt they do 10 times over with our personnel. J12 is frustrated right now though, with Whipple I think as much as anything else.

    6) 10 ….I’ll always love my Canes. If I lived down there I’d still go to the games.

  25. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    If you can’t get jacked up to play before a full house against your rival…..check your pulse, you might be dead. I’m off to the Dr to get my pacemaker checked, just thought I would throw that in.

  26. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Kevin P, Gruden did a Larry Coker. Why would anyone want him to coach their team???

    Ask yourself why he hasn’t found another job in the NFL???

    He’s a fraud. The only intelligent thing he did was keep his hands off Dungy’s defense.

  27. I’m also agreeing with Jeremy Shockey with his comments about The U. He said he doesn’t know what that is, he said he’s a Miami Hurricane. The U is some new stuff and he’s old school. I’m with that! I’ll never say The U again, because The U is branding and representation of elitism that has forgotten what made it elite! Since we’ve been THE U we haven’t DONE JACK SHYT! All of the new guys (and I’m not talking about guys like Berry) come to Miami saying its All About The U and they haven’t done JACK SHYT. What is their legacy? What have they done? Where is their contribution? All they’ve done was be mediocre! So you know what, I’ll tell you what they’ve done…ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! They are living on the sweat and brow of past greatness and are NOT upholding the legacy, hardwork, and commitment to being the best like OLD SCHOOL MIAMI HURRICANES. So you’ll NEVER here me talk about The U again, F’K THE U, I’m a Miami Hurricane!

    Next to the staff, WHY do we always find a way to do less with more, while other staffs do more with less? We have a talented team in a mediocre conference and we can’t get consistent performance from the team. Look at Bo Pelini @ Nebraska or hate to say it, Jimbo @ FSU. They are no more experienced than our staff but yet their teams look LIGHT years better than ours. The university is partly to blame because at LEAST those 2 plays let the coach go out and get REAL ASSISTANTS with REAL $$$. Who are we going to get? Who wants to come be the lowest paid, with no fan support, and now not even a winning pedigree? Who? I’ll tell you…VERY FEW PEOPLE and most definitely NOT THE BEST PEOPLE.

    As a program Miami is in trouble and it REALLY pains me to say that but truth is truth.

    As I’ve said before, I TRULY hope I am wrong. In fact, I would give my left arm to be wrong. Too bad NO ONE in that program would do the same.

  28. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    MM01 and JSQ, I want to write a blog about Whipple. The main comparison will be Stanford’s playcalling, execution and IDENTITY. But I’m also going to use THIS beautiful comparison of Nix and Whipple provided by BG…

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    bg1906
    October 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM
    Interesting…

    *** Pat Nix vs Mark Whipple- A look inside the Numbers*** Reply

    ——————————————————————————–
    The offense has gotten worse in its second year with far better talent than Pat Nix had. The oline is WAY better this year than it was last year with Harris haven been sacked only 8 times in 5 Games thus far this year.

    Even worse this offense is averaging 22 Points a game against BCS Opponents. IT IS PATHETIC! Arguably we have taken a lateral move at Offensive Cordinator from Pat Nix to Mark Whipple. He continues to throw the ball 65%-70% of the time even though Harris clearly is struggling and maybe far more injured than we have been lead onto believe. Having reviewed a substantial amount of game film I am convinced Whipple has very Little knowledge of how to Run the football and may not have more than a handful of running plays in his playbook to even call. Clearly the repetition in practice is 80% focused on the Passing game and the results on the SCORE BOARD are reflecting this failure.

    Redzone Offense
    08′-3rd
    09′-69th
    10′-92nd

    Scoring Offense
    08′-29 ppg
    09′-30 ppg
    10′-27 ppg

    Interceptions Thrown
    08′-111th
    09′-105th
    10′-114th

    Time of Possession
    08′-75th
    09′-106th
    10′-111th

    Passing Effeciency
    08′-78th
    09′-35th
    10′-71st

    Rushing Offense
    08′-78th
    09′-70th
    10′-67th

    Passing Offense
    08′-77th
    09′-31st
    10′-47th

    Total Offense
    08′-89th
    09′-45th
    10′-60th

    Also remember the Defense when NIX was here was TERRIBLE and only had 4 Interceptions all of 2008. Last year the Defense had 9 and this year we already have 7.

    Some other numbers about the D for comparrison.

    2008 Redzone D was 114th in the Nation
    2009 Redzone D was 64th in the Nation
    2010 Redzone D is 21st

    08′ TFL 25th
    09′ TFL 15th
    10′ TFL 1st

    08′ Turnovers Gained 113th (15)1.25 pg
    09′ Turnovers Gained 68th (21) 1.6 pg
    10′ Turnovers Gained 35th (11) 2.2 pg

    08′ Pass Eff D 44th
    09′ Pass Eff D 47th
    10′ Pass Eff D 5th

    Via Josh Bourne

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Shannon didn’t expect this and it’s about to cost him his job. Whipple hasn’t done squat in playcalling since the 1st half of Clemson.

    Whipple and Whipple alone has shaped this offense, during the week and most importantly in games.

    Shannon absolutely MUST be the guiding force behind the offense’s philosophy.

  29. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Rainey reinstated on Gators football team, so this is what losing two games in a row will do for Urbans discipline and ethics. Got to love the upper 1% he caters to.

  30. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Here are my observations of Stanford from the last blob….READ this shyt y’all. It’s EYE-OPENING. I couldn’t sleep I was so pizzed. Whipple is making J12 and this offense work so much harder than they have to work.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 11, 2010 at 11:07 PM
    I’m watching Stanford against Wake right now and their 1st drive is so friggin basic, so simple, so unimpressive but effective, IT’S SICKENING.

    They have completely AVERAGE TALENT but they all execute, they all know what they’re supposed to do and the playcalling keeps the defense totally off balance.

    Their first drive is split about even with run-pass, with the passes coming from play action and the shotgun.

    The QB always has a quick read option, and usually two WRs run shorter routes. They also have an OL that’s been together for four years.

    It’s a straight pro-style offense.

    >>>>>>>

    Seriously, watch the game on ESPN3. You’ll see what I mean. Their first scoring drive he didn’t throw a pass for more than 10 yards.

    TEN FRIGGIN YARDS. Most of them hot passes to the WRs, the other a misdirection rollout.

    It was easy because the playcalling kept the defense off-balance. They didn’t know if a run or a pass was coming.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 11, 2010 at 11:21 PM
    Stanford’s 2nd scoring drive began at the WF 40. They run on first down for about 3 yards out of a 1RB set. 2nd down, 3 WRs, the QB throws a very pretty, J12 like ball to a WR for a 40 yard TD.

    Nothing special at all…..he didn’t do a double move or anything. Just isolated the DBs with the set and froze the LBs because they’ve been running the ball all night. They haven’t even been running well. Just enough to make them honor it.

    Luck is 6 for 6. Easy passes all of them.

    >>>>>>>>

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 11, 2010 at 11:41 PM
    BG, I know what I’m watching. So far I haven’t seen him do anything J12 hasn’t done. The difference is the playcalling.

    Now he’s a lot bigger than J12 which makes a difference as far as the NFL is concerned. His arm’s probably stronger but he hasn’t shown it thus far.

    If J12 were 230 he’d be talked about seriously.

    The decision-making is as much a product of what the OC gives him as his natural long-ball love.

    3rd drive….Stanford run for no -gain on 1st. Then Luck throws a ten-yard to the left hash-mark for a 1st. Then no gain on another run. Then a screen play that Wake blew up and Luck threw a bad ball to the RB b/c Wake sniffed it out. 3rd down, Stanford goes 3 wide with a RB. Luck completes a 15 yard skinny-post right in between the CB and SS.

    Again NOTHING J12 hasn’t thrown. In fact, he throws longer balls A LOT like J12. Lots of air under it. Soft, for the WR to run under.

    Luck just underthrew a 30 or 40 yard post to an open WR. Then on 2nd Stanford runs for no gain. Then on 3rd Luck completes a ten yard pass over the middle when they needed 11. 4th down….they go for it, and convert, gaining 2 yards with a FB handoff.

    Harbaugh runs a ton of 3 TIGHT END sets. They just ran one such set for 8. Then on 2nd down they ran again up the middle for 12.

    Now they’re in a two TE, maybe even 3 TE set. They pitch it wide and just block their way into the endzone.

    RBs have a few moves, decent speed, wouldn’t see the field at the U.

    But you know what they have?? AN IDENTITY ON OFFENSE.

    Harbaugh’s built it for four years and now he’s getting the fruits.

    Shannon’s got to take control of this whole program and if that means Whipple leaves then so be it. We have to run the ball and use play-action with it at the same time.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 12, 2010 at 12:04 AM
    Stanford has had 4 drives and scored TDs on all four. Luck has thrown about 10 or 12 passes and two of them have been longer than 15 yards, and only completed one of them.

    The rest have been routes that developed within 3 or 4 steps. And they were always in the holes in Wake’s zone, or easy matchups created by play-action or spread isolation.

    Easy routes for the WRs. Easy passes for the QB. Mostly easy catches for the WRs, and they’re always in motion, NOT going out of bounds.

    It’s not supposed to be as hard for Us as it is. If Harbaugh had our talent he’d be undefeated and near the top of the country in all offensive categories.

    And there would be NO pressure on Shannon cause we’d be undefeated.

    (Maybe not.)

    But you see my point. Whipple, in bringing in the “NFL” offense has faked himself out and these players, J12 especially.

    Also, Stanford’s not playing with a ton of emotion, definitely not passion or what we’d call intensity. But they’re executing CONSISTENTLY, to quote Shannon. lol

  31. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Shannon’s job is on the line and he can’t call the plays for the offense so he has some serious intensity work to do so that Whipple’s invariable fuked up playcalls don’t cost him his job.

    OR he has to take a more firm grip of the direction of the offense and if Whipple doesn’t like he needs to walk out the door.

    At this point he hasn’t proven jack. The offense hasn’t performed well, is still making stupid mistakes, and rarely looks in any sort of rhythm. And most importantly, defenses always seem to know what’s coming….

    Again, this is on Shannon. He thought he was getting an NFL offense and instead he’s gotten a pass-happy, feast or famine playcaller who has NOT shaped this offense in any direction. And now he has an alienated QB.

  32. After watching Stanford dismantle Wake Forest by doing nothing more than running POWER-I football mixed with 10-15 yard pass plays, with players that probably wouldn’t make our 2-deep, except for Luck and the OL,
    from Cav

    except for Luck and the OL is THE KEY PART. We tried to run against FSU and Pitt and couldn’t do it consistently. Our O line has talent that I believe in-just not enough experience, not sure about Stoutland but only want to replace coaches this off season if we have someone better to come in.

  33. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Hurricane Randy
    October 12, 2010 at 12:48 PM
    Rainey reinstated on Gators football team, so this is what losing two games in a row will do for Urbans discipline and ethics. Got to love the upper 1% he caters to.

    >>>>>

    The pride of Canesville….lol

    Oscar showing his true colors.

  34. And I agree with you Cav that our o could be doing more with being less exotic. In the end it comes down to execution.

  35. avatar
    The Truth says:

    It’s not whip

  36. In our last two sellouts (Virginia’07 & FSU ’10), we’ve been outscored 93-17!!!

  37. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    DZ8, Stanford runs a ton of 3 TIGHT END sets. 3 TES!!! The OL doesn’t have to do much but handle the man in front of them.

    But the main reason their OL plays well and is effective is BECAUSE THE DEFENSE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT’S COMING….

    During the Wake game, Wake made a ton of tackles at the LOS and a few in the backfield. Did Harbaugh abandon the run??? NOPE. Did he just spread everything out with no RB and the QB under center?? NOPE.

    HE RAN IT AGAIN!!! Then he passed. Then he ran again. Then he passed.
    Different sets, slightly different routes, but always quick-hitters, so the OL doesn’t have to pass protect too long.

    You see my point.

    THE OC MAKES THE OL AND QB LOOK GOOD BECAUSE THEY MAKE THEIR JOBS EASY.

    It’s exact what I said last week from the Art of War….

    “The Skillful Warrior exploits the Potential Energy
    He does not hold his men responsible
    He deploys his men to their best
    But relies on the potential energy
    Thus, one can dispense with men and employ Potential Energy.”

  38. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, then tell me why Stanford’s offense can run such simple but effective plays but every time we line-up it feels like Russian Roulette??

    If we have no confidence in the playcalling imagine what the players think.

  39. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, Shannon gave Whipple the keys to the offense and said, “Do your thing.”

    After watching Whipple’s thing for 2 years, I still don’t know what his thing is.

    Is that Shannon’s fault??

  40. Cav I agree with you that we are a bit exotic on offense. In the end it comes down to execution by the players. Bad passes, dropped passes and bad blocking will make ANY OC look like doo doo.

  41. Cav/Truth.

    Its BOTH. Its Whip and the QB’s decision making. Harbaugh LOOKS better because he has a QB that can do what is asked of him. He asks him to simply make good decision and play within himself.

    Neither Whip nor J12 do the same for one another.

  42. Isn’t that what I just said?

  43. j/k bg1906

  44. It’s also the receivers. Irvin was just saying on the radio, Hank is the only receiver that helps J12 out. 100% true, and even Hank still has a case of the drops sometimes so he’s not perfect either.

  45. Yep DZ8, I am in agreement with you.

  46. avatar
    moneycane says:

    I think it’s on Swasey. And the water boys stink!! water isn’t even cold half of the time!! And do you see the way the cheerleaders waive their palm palms. Leaves a lot to be desired.

  47. avatar
    moneycane says:

    I forgot to throw in the parking lot attendants. They lack intensity and focus when they collect your parking pass. This needs to be fixed, and in a hurry or Miami will never win another game ever!!!

  48. Money and those parking attendants were VERY SLOW!!!!!

  49. When in doubt, blame Swasey.

  50. moneycane

    Let’s not get carried away now. At the Pitt game I was sitting right in front of the cheerleaders and this one scrawny dude cheerleader kept on almost dropping his chick.
    At the FSU game this scrawny cheerleader dude had bulked up and was using different tactics.
    Don’t worry about the cheerleaders…WE GOT THIS:)

  51. Yeah, they weren’t getting shedding blocks and getting to the next car fast enough.

  52. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Yeah but what are the routes? Stanford players dropped a few passes but the ones they caught were EASY catches. There was ONE diving catch. The rest were easy.

    You build up confidence in your players by making things easy and effective. You get everyone in a groove. When was the last time J12 and the WRs were in a groove???

    Whipple RARELY makes things easy and effective. Everything is exotic. Everything has to be run perfectly. He regularly asks the OL to do things they’re really not well-equipped to do.

    But most importantly his plays are TELEGRAPHED 80% of the time.

    You can tell when the defense doesn’t know what’s coming because they’re not in the backfield, or the play isn’t automatically snuffed out.

    And if Whipple can’t teach J12 how to read defenses and orchestrate the offense then someone else needs to do it. That’s why he was brought it, right?

    I’m really over the J12 thing. The kid has regressed mentally and I find it hard to believe that this is his normal style and state of mind. He’s simply NOT in a zone with team, the offense, or Whipple.

    It’s going to have to be Shannon’s job to bring him out of this cause I don’t think Whipple can.

  53. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Because Stanford has an OL that can make holes AND hold blocks, a QB that makes throws and WR’s that catch

    That’s how.

    All offenses look good when those things happen.

    You guys are obsessed with this play calling issue. If guys werent’ open or OLinemen weren’t getting tossed around or Wr’s weren’t dropping balls I might listen to it.

    It’s nonsense. WR’s weren’t getting ANY separatin on those slants the other night…isn’t that what you guys were calling for?

    The OL almost got ZJacory killed on TWO separate SCREENS that couldn’t even develop because the DL was coming after the QB. Isn’t THAT what you guys were calling for?

    Jacory has guys within 15 yds of the LOS scrimmage and he’s getting the KILLED by throwing it hight and soft.

    YOu want to say the offense is out of sorts and THAT”S whipples fault? Ok. but then Hill and Stoutland and Panunzio needs some blame too.

    But don’t blame the play calls…thats just an excuse.

    the QB ain’t good enough right now…you can play around a bad OL but not if your QB is scared to death. And he is…

  54. I really think we should blame it on the car on the turnpike on fire, he/she screwed up all the Karma.

  55. avatar
    The Truth says:

    WTF is an “easy” rout?

    LOL

    Telegraphing?

    Jimbo telegraphed his offense ALL NIGHT Saturday and that didn’t stop them, did it?

    STOP THIS NONSENSE!!!!

  56. I never put on my []_[] eye black.

    This ish is on me.

  57. avatar
    The Truth says:

    It’s all my fault…

    I started the day with a green polo on then switched to an ornage tshirt that i have no recolection of changing into…

    Its on me…put it my back.

    I will do better next time

  58. Nevermind, this ish is on Truth because his phone died during the game.

    Thanks a lot, Truth.

  59. It’s also that.

    And you changed around 6:30pm.

    No more tequila for you, dude.

  60. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, Harbaugh doesn’t ask Luck to do much. That’s the secret. Seriously, Luck DID NOT THROW A SINGLE BALL THAT J12 HASN’T THROWN FOUR OF FIVE TIMES IN THE LAST FIVE GAMES.

    Not one single pass. Luck makes some good look-offs but other than that, he throws balls that are easy, and easy to catch.

    Luck threw 2 balls over 15 yards in their first five drives. TWO. And by that I mean ONLY TWO DEEP ROUTES WERE CALLED.

    J12 throws that many in one drive and has at least that many called.

  61. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And please god don’t let the response be “then let Jacory get into a rythm by drawing up plays that aren’t down the field”

    Please lord have Mercy there weren’t but 6 or 7 balls thrown down the field until the game was out of hand…

    Everything was 15 yards and in…”easy” routs and passes.

    The QB is playing SCARED and the solution isn’t to pare down the offense anymore…they’ve DONE THAT.

    He needs to sit…get a little healtheir and get his head right. If they have to play him – and they do- they need to get him in and out of Duke as fast as possible.

    IMO the OL needs to get their crapola together so that we can unleash the hounds of a running game I know we can have. Berry is an animal and the rest of the backs are good as well. But the OL sucks right now…and it all starts there

  62. J12 (0.0)

    BGB(-5)

    The U(+10)

    I ignore everything coming out of Blandys mouth these days because we were all sold by the used car salesman before and it’s the same old recycled nonsense coming out of both sides of his mouth.

    Dude isn’t the answer and either is his scrawny wet linguini armed sidekick. What difference does it make if he is healthy or not. Still the same results.

    This team will quit on Jascarey a few more times this year when tested by a good team. You can see it in their body language reminiscent of the freewright years. Especially the D.

    This program is not about either one of them and will go on without them. That is why I do not blindly follow anyone because you never know……

    It’s all about this U and not about this one or that one.

    BGB and Jascarey are 9-4 peeps all day long. Expecting anything more out of either one of them is a dream.

    Whipple was a savior last year and a goat this year???

    Sounds about right.

    Just a matter of time before BGB puts him on blast.

    Unfortunately the next step in this process will be a mass firing of assistants at the end of the season( sounds very familiar). Then the hype towards next season followed by more of the same ol and more pitiful displays by this team.

    It’s a culture that he has developed. Sort of like club cancer before him. There are 1 million questions and only one answer.

    The talent is here so it is definitely not like 4 years ago. All that is needed at this point is the right captain to steer this ship.

    I say make it quick and painless because I can’t handle another prolonged depression.

    The writing is on the wall.

    Groin is a groin……

    We held some guys out on special teams to save them for the long season….

    It won’t be disappointing to not win the ACC…..

    What’s next coachy??

    Hopefully a press conference announcing your resignation because you are not the dude we all thought you were.

    It’s ok you gave it a good shot but if you love this program like I think you do then do the right thing and let someone step in and get this Bish back on track.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  63. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I need to pare down my tailgate hopping, JSQ

    that is fact

  64. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    You guys drank tequila?

    When I was there you were drinking caipirinhas!

    I feel so totally left out!! LOL!

  65. Funny that having a competent QB actually makes a whole team better.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  66. C1.

    I can’t argue with any of that right now.

  67. avatar
    The Truth says:

    As i watched the game again yesterday i saw a team come out fired up and ready to play. I also saw that same team become more and more accepting of the consequences and I can’t say i don’t agree with Canez that this team see #44 out there missing tackles and lets down.

    I cant say that I really don’t agree that this team, WR’s included, don’t see a QB that isn’t playing well and lets down.

    They played like they wanted to win until they realised FSU wasn’t going to lay down. They kept playing and they didn’t quit, but there was no real fight…almost like they knew they couldn’t do it.

    THAT’s THE PROBLEM.

    Is it that Randy is wound too tight? Maybe? Is it that he doesn’t let them play fereely? Probably?

    Whatever it is, something is wrong and it isn’t the scheme…

  68. Truth ran off because he thought that I would stop him from antagonizing/getting in a fight with certain people who will remain nameless and had tequila at another tailgate on the way back. Of which he has no recollection of doing.

    And yes, Truth. If you do that again, expect the opposite greeting when you return. And by the opposite, I mean I will throw you on the ground and start kicking your a$$.

  69. A groin is a groin is THE statement of ALL TIME, the kid could barely walk and he’s STILL taking 1st team reps VS DUKE. Our scout team should be better than Duke. Let Jacory sit and heal before UNC, which I have the feeling is going to be another embarrassed and will usher in the inevitable. I’m of the thought that it is inevitable. Randy as MUCH as I wanted him to be THE GUY just doesn’t appear to be THE GUY. I sincerely hop I am wrong.

  70. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 12, 2010 at 1:38 PM
    WTF is an “easy” rout?

    LOL

    Telegraphing?

    Jimbo telegraphed his offense ALL NIGHT Saturday and that didn’t stop them, did it?

    STOP THIS NONSENSE!!!!

    >>>>>>>>>

    Truth, Clemson in the 2nd half and FSU knew what plays were coming before the snap of the ball, just like Wake and UNC did.

    WTH do you call lining up under center with no RBs and 3 WRs??? He puts J12 and the WRs in tough spots but he absolutely hangs the OL out to dry…

    How can you not see this???

    All these teams studied Whipple and J12 and knew what was coming. I call that telegraphing. He does with his formations and with down and distance.

    OCCASIONALLY he gets a defense off-balance. Like the Mike James TD pass at Clemson. Or the Hankerson seam split call against Clemson. He also had them on the friggin ropes in the 2nd drive with the running. But he didn’t mix in the play-action pass. It was EITHER-OR. So Clemson came out and stuffed the jumbo set.

    An easy route is a route that comes open quickly, that leaves the WR in motion going forward, or in a position to make one man miss and keep rolling.

    I cannot imagine that Stanford WRs are just such excellent route runners that everything they run just comes open.

    IT’S THE PLAYCALLING…THE PLAY DESIGN ITSELF. The succession of plays also.

    Jimbo DID NOT telegraph plays because he ESTABLISHED THE RUN. Then it was play-action all day long. Our defense didn’t have a clue what was coming next until the game was over and they had given up.

    That’s how that screen TD worked so well. Our defense didn’t have a friggin clue what to expect.

  71. KLCaneFan
    October 12, 2010 at 1:47 PM
    You guys drank tequila?

    When I was there you were drinking caipirinhas!

    I feel so totally left out!! LOL!

    You ain’t the only one!!!

    :(!!!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  72. avatar
    moneycane says:

    Ok I think that we are getting to the point of dissecting what we just dissected about the FSU game. Unless we get the boys from the Big Bang Theory to help us out, we aren’t going back in time. Are we playing FSU this saturday?

  73. KL, I had tequila at the Smirnoff bar in the 2nd quarter. In a last ditch effort to help Jacory play better. It worked with Chokelahoma and Duke last year, and UVA in 2008.

    Sigh.

    Jacory’s play is even beyond my tequila superstition now.

  74. We might be? Boise St beat Va Tech twice this year right? Once as Boise St and once as James Madison.

  75. Money, the Duke stuff starts tomorrow. Sunday-Tuesday are usually aboutt the prior week’s game on here.

  76. Bg – I don’t need rainbows and puppies but man you are one depressing mofo lately.

    Truth – You had a comment last blog about Randy having this kids rolled up too tight, and I think you are 110% right. So here is my question, who does Randy turn to when he needs advice? I know there has to be someone and although we all think its Jimmy, I am curious to know if that’s the case.

  77. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    I cant say that I really don’t agree that this team, WR’s included, don’t see a QB that isn’t playing well and lets down.

    They played like they wanted to win until they realised FSU wasn’t going to lay down. They kept playing and they didn’t quit, but there was no real fight…almost like they knew they couldn’t do it.

    THAT’s THE PROBLEM.

    Is it that Randy is wound too tight? Maybe? Is it that he doesn’t let them play fereely? Probably?

    Whatever it is, something is wrong and it isn’t the scheme…

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Truth, I agree about J12 and the rest of the team letting down but not the playcalling.

    I think Whipple’s NOT the main problem but his playcalling compounds the deeper, bigger picture problem. The OL and WRs have minimal confidence and clarity about what they’re doing and why. J12 has gotten worse from last year. He played well but now all of a sudden he’s NOT competent??

    Well WTF HAPPENED???? Any ideas? Blandy did it?? I honestly don’t know how a player regresses and plays scared OTHER THAN he’s lost confidence in the plays and personnel.

    The deeper problem is Shannon connecting with and raising the level of play and intensity of this team.

    If Shannon can fix that it will mitigate Whipple and J12.

    If the OL really run blocks it will make everything easier, for a while at least.

  78. Shwarma, Truth and I were having the exact conversation last night and I said what you said.

    I’ll let Truth take it from here . . .

  79. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    I stopped drinking tequila at games because I waned to remember the game… which in this case was a baaaaadd chooooice!

  80. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “How can you not see this???”

    Because that’s not happening Cav…I don’t know what games you are watching…I’m not sure what your football IQ is, and you know I love you, but that offense is NOT leaving it’s players out to dry.

    The OL is atrocious. They suck. Period. Brandon Washington looked like a sumo wrestler on Ice skates the other night. He’d get into his man and fall over. he is one example.

    WR’s are WIDE THE F@CK OPEN ALL GAME LONG and all Jacory has to do is get the ball out to them…

    That’s isn’t happening.

    Jimbo fisher rand the same 6 running plays ALL NIGHT. I can tell you as FACT that the DL knew exactly what play was coming and they couldn’t stop stop it.

    I specifically asked IN PERSON a DLineman what the problem was and he simply said, “they kicked our a*s” “Did they do anything different?” “Nope” “did they keep you off balance? ” Nah…we knew what play was coming”

    Why couldnt you stop them “Because they executed and held their blocks”

    THATS HOW YOU WIN FOOTBALL GAMES.

    Its not about setting the table…its about executing your assignment.

    Stop blaming a man in a headset for the QB sucking. S

  81. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Hold on shwarma…

  82. avatar
    moneycane says:

    I feel you JSQ but what more can be said about it. Things we established: Randy Sucks, Jacory Sucks, WHipple SUcks, Swasey sucks, Shalala Sucks, FSU kicked our d!cks in, and we won’t win another game. It’s no real reason for me to watch any more football this season.

  83. I’m not ready to bail on Randy yet.

    But he needs to turn things around in a hurry and playing J12 this weekend makes me seriously question his judgment.

  84. shwarma says:
    October 12, 2010 at 1:58 PM

    Bg – I don’t need rainbows and puppies but man you are one depressing mofo lately.

    Sorry bro. All hope in THIS team the way it is NOW is gone. I won’t say anything negative anymore. I don’t mean to be a downer. I love the Miami Hurricanes, but I can’t stand The U. My apologies if I’m depressing you guys. I’m sorry, just trying to be realistic so its not a big shock when it happens.

  85. KL, unfortunately, I remember everything pretty clearly until the ride home. That’s a little fuzzy.

    Drinking more tequila when we all got back to my place = not fuzzy.

  86. BTW I can tell by O Franklin’s stance whether the play will be a pass or run.

    Something I picked up rewatching the game.

    Dude telegraphs it EVERY time and I am sure that opposing D’s have picked it up as well.

    All the old DL out there will see what I am taking about.

    He sits back in his stance and barely puts his fingers on the ground when a pass is called.

    Very obvious and any D coordinator worth a damn has this dialed in.

    That was the only key I noticed before I threw up a little.

    The list of garbage goes on……

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  87. I don’t know, Money, but I, for one, am more optimistic today, so I think Mike’s blog is good for generating discussion and perhaps getting some new ideas out there.

  88. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, just compare the Wake-Stanford and Miami-Wake games from last year.

    J12 was 22-43 for 330 yds, 3 TDs and 1 INT. We won 28-27

    Luck was 23-34 for 276 2 TDs and 1 INT. They lost 24-27

    Turn the calendar to 2010 and Wake gets stomped 68-24. Luck was 17-23 for 207 yds, 4 TDs and no INTs.

    Meanwhile J12 is struggling to complete a pass this year.

    WHAT THE FUK HAPPENED IN 9 MONTHS???

    Is it BIG GAME BLANDY?? Maybe it’s because the WRs can’t run routes. Or maybe it’s the OL…

    WHAT IT IS??

  89. . . . and I don’t think Randy, Shalala, or Swasey suck. I think Whipple could improve and Jacory only sucks because he is injured because our Oline sucks.

  90. avatar
    The Truth says:

    It’s true…JSQ and I had that exact conversation. Yes, he talks to Jimmy…he actually talks to a lot of guys. Great coaches.

    But men don’t talk to each other like that. Think about it:

    When you’re REALLY screwing up who sets you straight? Who sits you down and tells it to you like it is?

    Is it your dad? Your best friend? No.

    I don’t know who he’s talking to outside of those guys that’ll really tell him. Like I said, and all of you know from your personal lives, dudes don’t get deep like that.

  91. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The OL is atrocious. They suck. Period. Brandon Washington looked like a sumo wrestler on Ice skates the other night. He’d get into his man and fall over. he is one example.

    WR’s are WIDE THE F@CK OPEN ALL GAME LONG and all Jacory has to do is get the ball out to them…

    That’s isn’t happening.

    >>>>>>>

    Truth, IF IT’S WHIPPLE’S RESPONSIBILITY TO PREPARE J12 AND HE’S REGRESSING WHO THE HELL IS RESPONSIBLE????

    I guess the 20 year-old is supposed to do it all by himself.

  92. no worries, money.

    I’ll have a Duke preview up tomorrow.

  93. Is J12 really regressing or is he injured? I think it’s the latter, and he’s playing scared because his oline sucks and he doesn’t want to get killed.

    Maybe Highsmith and Whipple told Randy not to put their sons out there with that crap oline and so Jacory is some sort of sacrificial lamb?

    Hey, it’s a new theory.

  94. I’m kidding, btw.

  95. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, our OL DOES NOT pass protect well. If you know this as an OC, why would you call a play that the defense knows nothing else can possibly happen BUT A PASS?

    And then to make it even harder for everyone, you put your QB under center so he has to take even more time to get set and throw.

    That’s what I call hanging your OL out to dry.

    You have two frosh OTs, both don’t move well laterally but you ask them to repeatedly do what you know they don’t do well.

    What is that called??

    Oh yeah, they’re just supposed to execute.

  96. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Now that’s fair Cav…

    That’s what I’m saying…

    It’s not the playcalling though…

    And I wouldn’t say he’s regressed…hes always been the same player. J12 threw lots of pics last year too.

    Why isn’t he getting better?

    Well, competition makes a team better, right?

    Who is Jacory’s competition?

    Does Jacory think really think he needs to get better? Hmmmm I got a twitter account with Raiders jumpers and pink pimp suits that says probably not.

  97. Some of our fans are really, re-he-he-ally, stupid:

    Dan Morgan Jr. Should Randy Shannon and the Miami coaching staff be fired if they do not win out and go to a BCS bowl? Comments please
    9 minutes ago via Facebook for iPhone · Comment ·LikeUnlike · View Feedback (11)Hide Feedback (11)
    Isaac Maya Only if they could get Schiano
    6 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeBilly Butler Wow opening up a can of worms….Hes got next year IMO to get it done. If he cant win with the MNW bunch he cant win at all
    6 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeAaron Haber Shannon yes, Whipple should be the HC…
    5 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeMichael Black Schiano is not the answer. The university needs to make a true commitment to hiring the best available coaches, not just the head coach. This needs to be a destination for coaches not a pass through.
    5 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeRenny Whidden Yes. Coker wasnt good at recruiting but he put the best players on the field. Why wasnt lamar miller returning kicks after the osu game. I mean he did take one to the house and shannon proceeds to let a freshman return kicks against clemson.
    5 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeMike Lipski Dude you were part of an amazing time in the “U” history… I used to see you in the office at Taravella everytime i got sent there for getting in trouble.. HAHA… But listen… Here is the problem. Randy by far is one of the best recruiters in the nation. We all know he cant coach a national contender. So what do we really want? A guy who year in year out will flood the system with top talent or a guy that cant coach to the top tallent to a championship??? I would fire him and the staff… WHIPPLE……
    5 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeMellisa Barnett agreed shannon needs to Go!!
    3 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeArmando Figueroa I’d give em one more year…this years team is full of potential..but I dnt think we shud put shannon on the hot seat just yet
    2 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeAntonio Rodriguez No I think he is doin good! Nd give him a shot he has a young team! If we bring in somebody new its lik startin all over again! I say let them play nd randy will handle the team! We can’t drop balls at all!! That needs fixin ASAP!!
    2 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeAustin Norman Give Randy and Whipple one more year but get rid of John Lovett!
    2 minutes ago · LikeUnlikeScott Cannon Not sure about fired. I think Whipple needs to stay and we get an offense that can execute. Jacory is nearly as bad as Mr. Unpredictable (Brock Berlin) was. You never know when he walks on the field, what team he’s gonna be playing for that… day. His judgement is DEFINITELY in question, repeatedly throwing into triple coverage and he CAN’T scramble very well outta the pocket. We need a QB that can play 1 single game without an alleged damned injury. Geeeez, put in AJ and see how the hell he does. Jacory is TRULY not that good.
    Shannon needs to step up to the plate, stop being so laid back as Larry Coker was and instill some AGGRESSIVE coaching as Howard, Jimmy or even Butch would do in this siutation. I assume its just not Randys style to get hyped, turn red, and become hell bent on winning as in Spurrier or Ditka etc. They need to start recruiting performers…

  98. Also, since we are all still on the negative ish today, I have something to say that I haven’t said yet.

    Both on here and at the old place, I have always been one to question off-the-field factors that effect our players, recruiting and the perception of this team; I never thought just the aura of “The U” and “playing Miami football” would be enough for us to succeed in the future and have said so.

    From a lack of a nutrition program/staff/facilities to a fanbase chasing a myth, to positive PR to the economic disadvantage this university is at compared to many D-1 powerhouses, I have always thought this is uphill climb for us.

    Now, after an ass kicking, I have to once again ask you guys: IS it still just about “playing Miami football,” finding those coaches/players who know “the Miami way”, blah blah blah…OR is it time to realize that when it comes to change its time to sh*t or get off the pot?

    I truly believe that THESE players and THESE coaches can deliver results. That our AD and president CAN make this happen. Call this blind faith, call this ignorance. For one reason or another, I just have a deep seeded belief that the only thing standing in the way of many of these things (besides money which will keep some walls up) is the people themselves. My biggest fear is just whether everyone involved will take an honest look in the mirror, have a pair, and step up to the challenge.

    I have always been a realist. Always been one to think much more like Canez 1 than Capt O. So while if we stumble I can’t say I will be surprised, I hold out belief that it will turn around. Should the team accept that challenge, I think play calling and execution and all the other BS will take care of itself, as naive as that sounds.

  99. avatar
    The Truth says:

    So then cav the solution is to never pass in obvious passing situations OR play action in obvious passing situations

    Another possibility is to protect your QB and run a draw when it’s 2nd and 13 or 3rd and 13 which WHIP did do a couple of times last night.

  100. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ, it’s painfully clear that he has NO confidence in his OL. It started last year and has gotten worse and worse each week this year.

    That’s why I’m laying the blame at Whipple’s feet, and Shannon’s.

    If I know you don’t do something well and it’s affecting the mind and performance of my QB, why in the hell would I continually ask you to do it??

    That’s why I posted that stuff on Stanford. Harbaugh rarely asks that OL to pass-protect for more than 3 steps. And because he constantly mixes runs and passes, the defense can’t just pin their ears back. If they are in a long-pass situation, he sets him back in the shotgun with a RB for extra protection. And the patterns are still quick-hitters.

  101. JSQ says:
    October 12, 2010 at 2:12 PM

    . . . and I don’t think Randy, Shalala, or Swasey suck. I think Whipple could improve and Jacory only sucks because he is injured because our Oline sucks.

    I’ll make it easy for you, individually we have some REALLY good players, collectively as a TEAM we stink

  102. avatar
    Sh!tHead McDonald says:

    TALLAHASSEE — It was a rather bold gesture for a generally reserved guy. After connecting with Jermaine Thomas on a 17-yard touchdown for Florida State’s first score in a 45-17 rout of Miami on Saturday night, quarterback Christian Ponder flashed the Hurricanes fans “The U”

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Ya know,
    The sucky part about this, is that in one simple gesture, Ponder single handedly repped The U more than everybody wearing orange n’ green, on Sat.

    Pffffffffft…….

  103. F off, Sh!thead, I was repping! You haven’t had my buffalo chicken dip! ;-)

  104. Now if Randy would just let my crazy a$$ on the field, maybe I could have made a difference . . .

  105. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Cav

    You’re having a football argument with a guy that watches the game no less than 4 times.

    Can we have a difference of opinion on some things? Absolutely.

    But you’re telling me that the OC is putting the OL out to dry by calling pass plays out of a no RB set where the QB is under center?

    That’s sounds about right…but there’s only one problem.

    The QB is only taking a 3 step drop. The passes out of that set are short and are most often called when zone coverage is expect. The WR’s are getting jammed and then are expect to get to a spot in the zone.

    It’s a bam bam bam deal.

    The QB isn’t even able to make that throw. And a couple of times the OL STILL blew the assignment.

    Is whip perfect? No. Hell no!! But he’s running a good offense that I would LOVE to see run by Sam Bradford or Ponder or even the kid from Boise State.

    Someone humble and not scared.

  106. avatar
    JerseyCanes says:

    A Must Read… Very interesting.. Only one Former Cane mentioned by name….

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/magazine/10/12/agent/index.html?eref=sihp

    JC

  107. Truth, why you think as a man, none of those guys will stand up and stay something. I don’t really see your point (though feel I am just losing something in translation vs. agreeing with you). If someone asks you for advice, wants to see you do your best, why don’t they grab you and shake you and tell you what to do? Or tell you to take a long look in the mirror?

    That is why in my last post I say what I say. I think the fix while monumental in terms of overcoming of one’s self is also very simple too, and for that reason I hold out faith it could happen.

  108. bg – I was just messing with you a little man. If you feel the way you feel, no reason not to say it.

  109. shwarma says:
    October 12, 2010 at 2:31 PM

    bg – I was just messing with you a little man. If you feel the way you feel, no reason not to say it.

    Its very much the same as the LSU game in ’05 when we got rocked and you could tell the end was near. Not IF it was near, just WHEN it was going to happen.

    I got that bad vibe again.

  110. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And Cav

    I’m only arguing to argue brother…you know you’re the best! LOL

    Slow day at work and I’m still salty!!!

    JSQ is rubbing off on me

  111. shwarma

    I’m with you buddy. The key is how we respond to this, not that it happened.

  112. Shwarma.

    Would’ve been easier to get over had Coach not butchered himself with the media yesterday. HORRIBLE.

  113. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, the solution is to mix run and pass, from 1st down forward ON ONE DRIVE.

    You set up with 2 TEs and a FB instead of always going jumbo when you want to run. You run out of those sets but also pass out of the same formation. You put 1 TE in motion to give the defense one last thing to think about.

    Then on the next set of downs, you play-action pass on 1st. Then run on 2nd or 1st. Then run again with 1TE and a FB, straight I or staggered. Then you set up with two RBs from the shotgun and call a draw, or a pass in the flat after the WRs have cleared out the DBs. OR you call a 10 yard slant or a 15 yard skinny-post just between the CB and SS if they’re playing zone, from play-action.

    Let me be clear about this.

    WHIPPLE HAS CALLED THE PLAYS I’M TALKING ABOUT IN THE SUCCESSION I’M TALKING ABOUT. HE CAN DO IT.

    The problem is he RARELY and I mean RARELY mixes them on the same drive to stagger the defense. It’s usually ALL PASS OR ALL RUN.

    The 1st drive against Pitt was TEXTBOOK. If he’d called the rest of the game that way we would dropped 35 on them in the 1st half. Pitt had NO CLUE what was coming next.

    But after that drive he just went pass-crazy, and always from the same sets. In the 2nd half he just nose-dived into the run and when that didn’t work he went immediately to the spread with no RB to protect J12.

    After a strong opening that was all running, he did the same thing against Clemson- pass crazy. And against FSU he called a game similar to OSU in that we came out with little variation on any formations and sets.

    As my man Canez1 says, same ole same ole.

    He went jumbo. Then spread from the gun. Then he went wide, just like he did against Clemson and OSU when we didn’t run well on 1st. I’ve never seen him attack the middle of the field early in a game. Then he called a 5-yd slant right into the LB’s zone. Even if TB holds on he has no chance of making a play.

    It’s the TIMING of the calls and the SUCCESSION. It’s also the formations.

    Because Whipple doesn’t vary these things, defenses can tee-off and attack. This is why J12 has regressed. He has NO confidence in the OL’s ability to protect him. So he locks on to Hankerson and doesn’t take the time to go through his reads.

    I call this a regression because last year, at the beginning esp. he went through his reads like clock-work. The last drive against FSU where he complete that incredible pass to TB was his 2nd or 3rd read.

    I’ve seen him do that ONCE this year. It was against Clemson in the 2nd. he was in a groove, moving his feet, not worrying about pass-protection. He was completing pass after pass.

    Problem is, Whipple just kept passing. If he’d mixed in some power runs, power formations and even passes out of those formations, the defense would have had no idea what to adjust to in the 2nd half.

    But he didn’t. He just kept passing even inside the 10 yard line. I remember saying in here. “Just run it down their throats until they stop you.”

    He didn’t. Clemson adjusted to his ONE running package and we barely won a game that should’ve been a total blowout. In the process J12 was sacked twice and lost confidence.

  114. ^^^The reason I say that^^^

    Because he back tracked and bumbled and stumbled to retract the statement by saying he didn’t hear the question right? Really??? But you heard all the other questions right??? And IF you REALLY didn’t hear the question right then why did you answer it? HE is the media guy, the kids are PROGRAMMED when they interview, and we don’t hear from the assistants. SO, if you are going to be the FACE of the program you have to PAY ATTENTION…ATTENTION TO DETAIL. Hell if he doesn’t pay attention to detail then how can we expect the kids too!

    I’m just sayin…

    #VERYMADATRANDY

  115. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    e Truth
    October 12, 2010 at 2:38 PM
    And Cav

    I’m only arguing to argue brother…you know you’re the best! LOL

    Slow day at work and I’m still salty!!!

    JSQ is rubbing off on me

    >>>>>>>>>

    Truth, you know it’s all love.

    I’m just sick of watching other teams move the ball down the field with less talent. It’s sickening.

  116. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I’m saying that I don’t know if Randy realizes how wound up he is. I don’t think he’s talking to people that can articulate that to him.

    That’s my opinion.

  117. bg your right about coach but that also goes back to what I said above. These outside factors (the imporantance of perception) and the personal challenge all these men need to take on, is what can get us going in the right direction again.

    Personally, I think Randy needs say this after a loss:

    “This performance is on everyone. We are a team. That starts first and foremost with me and goes down to the 85th man on the roster. It goes from our AD to our fans. We are a team. We can be a great team, but yesterday we lost. Losing is not acceptable, no matter how it happens. I am never happy with a loss. Our mission though, is to learn from this. In life I am trying to teach our players to be men. And while I will always guide them off the field, guiding them on it is the clearest way in which our fans and the media can see this. After a loss like this we have to evaluate ourselves and make a committment that we are going to improve. No execuses. We are a team and we will do better.”

  118. T, you wish I was “rubbing off” on you!;-)

  119. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, I can actually see how and why he answered that question the way he did. He’s not thinking “let’s win the coastal this year.” I’ve never heard him or anyone else from this program ever mention the word “coastal”.

    He screwed up, definitely but I can see how he did.

    And details I’ve never been concerned with about him because of his time as a DC. DC is all about details and analysis. I recall LT #36 talking about how detailed he was when LT was a frosh on the scout team and Shannon was telling him to do things exactly the way the opposition did them. LT argued with him, “Well what if they do it this way?” “Shannon was insistent that they didn’t and forced LT to do it exactly the way the opponent did it.

    If anything, he may be too detailed and not let it loose enough for his players to really feel like partners and leaders on the field, like Truth suggested.

  120. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 12, 2010 at 2:50 PM
    I’m saying that I don’t know if Randy realizes how wound up he is. I don’t think he’s talking to people that can articulate that to him.

    That’s my opinion.

    >>>>>>>>>

    Truth, I think you’re right. I think he needs to let his passion loose on the field in the game MUCH more. I think he needs to let it loose in practice more as well, even though I haven’t heard much about practice, just from seeing his personality, he needs to do it for the players to connect with him on that raw, instinctual level.

    You can’t always have a wall around your emotions because you think it’s safer. Even if it’s anger. The kids really need to see it. They also need to see him smile as well as scowl.

  121. Shwarma.

    But he’s NEVER said that. UM’s PR and SI department sucks and constantly fails him.

  122. Truth now I got you and that then is a problem, but again, its one with just the right piece of advice from the right person that can be fixed.

    This sounds crazy, but this is one time when I think Randy not having that solid family life (from the perception we have all been given) is hurting us. Randy has always had to rely on just himself and this is a time when its really someone else that needs to get Randy to refocus.

    Randy needs to stop being scared. Randy needs to realize that unless he takes a risk, he WILL fail. Randy needs to come out both guns blazing. No prisoners.

    That unless he takes a stand, he will never do more than just be average when it comes to being a coach. Don’t try to carry the weight of many, just be Randy Shannon. Because as much as this man might be a insulated SOB, I also think he has the qualities and belief in creating men that can lead to some good things.

  123. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Promises promises JSQ LOO

  124. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Shwarm, that’s what he said, more or less. I’m sure he said even more in his speech to the team on Sunday. DVD talked about it at the SS, briefly.

  125. You know what pisses me off more than anything about this team?

    I have no clue what to expect from game to game.

  126. Ferman agrees with Truth.

    Here are key points after extensive study of entire FSU game Reply

    ——————————————————————————–
    As previously noted, they were physically better top to bottom. This even showed in simple areas such as special teams where they were way more physical and tough than we were on hidden things like blocking on kick returns.

    Jacory’s inconsistency and erratic play is killing the offense along with erratic play by the offensive line. Orlando Franklin really struggled. I think we have to get better than Horn/Gunn. Get Linder out there and move Franklin back to guard. Thats what I say.

    Dont blame Whipple. Receivers are always open. Just need to execute and be able to run the football.

    There was 16 points of swing in the first half that Miami couldnt play well enough in other areas to overcome.

    * Missed FG = 3 points
    * Berry fumble which gives FSU TD = 7 points
    * McCarthy dumb 15 yard penalty after play which keeps drive alive when defense would have been off field. Result is FG. = 3 points
    * Refs dont call clear pass interference (Benjamin play deep) just before the half that would have allowed UM to kick a FG before intermission = 3 points

    FSU’s offensive line played off the charts. They were big and athletic and executed to perfection almost every single play. Career game by those guys. We were not good enough or tough enough up front to deal with their level of play. We also were very undiscipined on the outside, didnt defend the rollouts well at all.

    I’ll be honest. I dont think this butt kicking was an aberration. Miami is a team that is far away from being complete.

    But …..

    We are good enough that if we just get execution on the offensive side of the ball and get better on special teams we CAN win out. But a total team collapse like the other night, no chance.

    They have to get tougher and fight harder EVERY SINGLE PLAY to overcome the fact that they are not a great team. This is a second tier squad, not a top 10 group. But there are enough playmakers to win games.

    I want to see more player accountability. For example, to me, it is inexcusable that a freak like Tommy Streeter cant get on the field and help. These guys have to take a look in the mirror. It makes no sense to recruit big time athletes who come into the program and dont have the drive or work ethic to maximize their abilities. We also have to do a better job of getting the right and best personnel on the field in the right spots, something I am not sure is the case on the offensive line.

    Dont give up on this team fellas. They are not national champions but they arent chumps either. They played a piss poor game the other night and got their butts handed to them. But they can win every game on the schedule and will need your support each week to do so. Ripping them and their coaches to shreds wont accomplish anything. Just being real about it.

  127. miamimike01 says:
    October 12, 2010 at 2:59 PM

    You know what pisses me off more than anything about this team?

    I have no clue what to expect from game to game.

    ^^^THIS! EXACTLY^^^

  128. miamimike01 says

    You know what pisses me off more than anything about this team?

    I have no clue what to expect from game to game.

    __________________________________________

    Mike, that’s how I got so superstitious. Around 2006 I started to think it was something I was doing wrong.

  129. Ferman lost me at we CAN win out.

    Stop it….

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  130. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “This sounds crazy, but this is one time when I think Randy not having that solid family life (from the perception we have all been given) is hurting us. Randy has always had to rely on just himself and this is a time when its really someone else that needs to get Randy to refocus.”

    We ALL Need that…even those with a great family life.

    And Every man needs a good woman around to keep us in check…

    Women will say things to us that we are afraid to admit to ourselves

  131. Capt O the point is he didn’t say just that though, and while I have to fully admit I have not listened to everything coach or any of the players have said post game (jsut don’t care to listen at this time) if what I said could have even have been reasonably inferred, then we would not be in this mess today.

    And bg while your right maybe someone can be feeding him better, he needs to truly feel that way too, and be able to articulate it. Randy isn’t a dummy. I wrote that in three freaking minutes (granted its what I do for a living in some way but still) He can handle that.

    Make fun of Timmy Teabag all we want but you want to know why the entire country loves him, just take a look at that damn Miss St. post-game speech. Lay it out there. Be honest. Show a committment to winning and jargon.

    While this team needs a leader on the field, its time for Randy to show them how to do it.

  132. So there we go Truth, JSQ go make nice to Randy ASAP (what you said is 100% true about women making you admit things about yourself you normally wouldn’t. I can go on about that but at the risk of sounding like a pu$$y I digress)

  133. Shwarma.

    THAT’S what I meant when I said where’s our Teabag!

  134. At this point there is nothing more to say! So Whoopi said she was able to Brett Favre’s unit…..does any one have the link?

  135. avatar
    The Truth says:

    ..and we listen to them because we know they need us to be better men…

  136. 1)When the status quo is not working then someone needs to get fired! Start with Special Teams! Maybe that will shake up the rest!

    2)If the team can remain focused and not suffer too much of a hangover from Saturdays beat down and the coaching staff can prepare them and someone, please someone STEP UP AND BE THE MAN! We can win out!

    3)If I were Randy Shannon I would be screaming and yelling and totally stroking out on the sidelines! I would break my foot off in a players a$$ for stupid penalties and I would chest pump him for laying the wood on someone! Hire Mark Dupper as receivers coach, Hire a QB coach, and get all over Whipple and his play calling.

    4)See #2 above

    5)Stop blowing sunshine up J12’s butt by telling him he is the answer because he clearly is not. He was better than what we had before but from what I have seen he is no Ken Dorsey. With that in mind-he is what he is and we do not have a viable alternative so I give him a 3.5.

    6)Tough question as I support the U 100% however, from what I witnessed Saturday night, I am not sure those guys on the field feel as we do! Championships are great for recruiting and bragging rights and $$ to the University, but they are won by Champions and we need champions on the field.

  137. Este.

    Shannon said Orlando and Josh Holmes got hurt in warm ups.

  138. avatar
    BahamCane says:

    Good Day CANEDOM!

    What did i miss?

  139. avatar
    nashvillecane says:

    Everyone meet “The Pattern”

    W-L-WWW-LL-W-LLLL-W-L-W-LL-WWWWW-LLL-WW-L-WWW-L-WW-L-WW-L-W-L-WW-L

    At least we only lose them one at a time now!

  140. Late Show Top Ten
    canechic
    October 12, 2010 at 3:21 PM
    At this point there is nothing more to say!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    this explains it all . . .

    Top Ten Things You Should Know About Kim Jong Un

    10. “People” magazine named him Sexiest Kim Jong Alive
    9. At the age of 9, he was taller than his father
    8. Enjoys wearing plaid shirts
    7. Throws left, tortures right
    6. Has skeletons in his closet — not secrets, actual skeletons
    5. Says he’s super-psyched and ready to bring it
    4. Was a finalist to replace Max Weinberg as Conan’s band leader
    3. Has a rock-hard set of abs, which he calls “The Detonation”
    2. Wants to convert the Yongbyon nuclear facility to a Cheesecake Factory
    1. Currently dating Lindsay Lohan

  141. bg1906
    October 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM
    Este.

    Shannon said Orlando and Josh Holmes got hurt in warm ups.

    PLEASE say that he didn’t say that!!!! LMFAO!!!!!

    I have seen it all now.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  142. Good stuff autumn!

  143. Listen to Coop. He’s says guys are being vocal, while that is GOOD, none of the names listed were Jacory Harris. That’s a big deal to me.

    http://www.theufootball.com/

  144. C1.

    Go hear for yourself. http://www.theufootball.com

  145. avatar
    BahamCane says:

    Canez1 says:
    October 12, 2010 at 3:49 PM

    bg1906
    October 12, 2010 at 3:37 PM
    Este.

    Shannon said Orlando and Josh Holmes got hurt in warm ups.

    PLEASE say that he didn’t say that!!!! LMFAO!!!!!

    I have seen it all now.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!
    ——————————————
    Canez1,

    J-12 pulls a groin while running.

    Now, OF and JH gets hurt during warmups?

    Whats next? Hankerson pulling a hammie while flipping pancakes?

    This is ridiculous.

  146. Menocal says one aspect of the game particularly troubled him.

    And it had nothing to do with what was happening on the field.

    “Recruits were rooting for Florida State,” said Menocal, who remained for the entire game. “There was a guy in my row throwing the FSU tomahawk. I was like `What are you doing?’ It was kind of disappointing.”

    *********************************************************************

    Awesome!! We invite these recruits to the game and they are tomahawking and rooting for us to lose!!!

    WOW is all I have to say.

    The future is bright indeed.

    NOW I am thoroughly disgusted on ALL levels…..

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  147. Bahama LMFAO!!!!!

    Quickly turning into a circus with Big top Blandy as the ring leader.

    A groin is a groin.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  148. Randy should ban himself from speaking to the media for a while.

    He needs a TO!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  149. Canez are you turning on us? I would expect you to tell us that the kid who did the chop should go F himself or something more comical.

  150. New question – Why won’t J12 stand up and lead? Someone must have some insight here.

  151. And let me get the prerequisite he won’t stand up because a groin is a groin response out of the way.

  152. Shwarm I don’t know what to think anymore LOL!

    I am tired of being sick and tired my man.

    Sad ain’t it.

    I don’t think I have a good go F urself in the tank!!

    It’s a miracle!

    LOL

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  153. LMAO!!!

    Grampy can’t stand up because he will get hurt in the process!!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  154. LOL!!! You read my mind!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  155. avatar
    raizecane says:

    OK….just for giggles; let’s say that Spurrier is the head coach at UM. How long do you think JH lasts playing the way he is playing????

    And for those who say we don’t have a backup that is equal to an injured JH, then I ask this question…..who is recruiting our QB’s that can’t come in and compete right away?? The staff is either being loyal to JH which contradicts their “we will recruit someone to replace you” line, or we are just not recruiting well / developing well. We will be in trouble for a long time if something doesn’t change and soon

  156. good point, raize

  157. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    shwarma
    October 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM
    New question – Why won’t J12 stand up and lead? Someone must have some insight here.

    >>>>>>>>

    I have no clue exactly why but I do know that something has changed between FAMU, OSU and Pitt.

    Does anyone remember when he started this going off by himself and praying stuff? I’d bet it was this year, probably after OSU.

    But his leadership is secondary to him becoming comfortable in the pocket. It’s been on and off this whole season, and most the second half of last season.

    He has no confidence in the OL and with the plays Whipple’s been calling I think he’s lost confidence in the whole offense.

    Their relationship, his confidence and Whipple’s playcalling is going to determined the rest of this season. If he doesn’t mix things up and get ahead of the defense, J12 and the OL will have no confidence. If J12 has no confidence he’s going to lock onto Hank, not make his reads and who knows what will happen.

    Now, if Shannon and Stoutland can find a way to get better run-blocking from the OL, that will help. But it’s not going to solve it totally.

  158. Raize I ask you this.

    Three years ago we have four QBs (JH, RM, CS, TC). Because of this, when recruiting the next class we target one QB who will not have a problem riding pine since there are four in front of him (Highsmith).

    Now the plot thickens. We lose three QBs, leaving us two (JH and AH). We lose these guys (RM, TC, CS) because of competition.

    As such, in the next recruiting cycle we only take one, to avoid this problem again (Morris). Following this we then again target one (Bridgewater), now giving us four in total with adequate spacing.

    Now if anyone thinks this is mishandled I think their crazy. We have the proper number of QBs.

    The competition problem was unavoidable unless you think a true freshman (Morris) should be pushing Jacory since Highsmith was not recruited with the intention of needing much playing time (and don’t tell me we should have had the foresight, we had 4 damn QBs in front of him)

  159. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Raize, that’s the way it was with all the great UM QBs. They came in, learned the system for a couple of years, then played. We’ve never had a Spurrier type situation. Oddly enough, Spurrier has changed his tune of late as well.

    But competition isn’t J12’s problem. It’s confidence in the OL and the playcalling. When he’s confident he sits in the pocket, makes his reads and delivers the ball. He did it often last year but rarely this year.

    When he’s not confident, he throws on his backfoot, locks on to 1 WR and generally makes shytty throws. And Whipple doesn’t help him or the OL out by mixing up the run and pass so a defense can’t tee-off. It’s a simple equation actually.

    If you want to see an OC who makes his QB’s and OL’s job EASY go watch a Stanford game. Then tell me J12 can’t make those throws that Luck makes.

  160. And to clarify what I mean by mishandled: I mean only recruiting one QB per cycle and then logical explanation as why this year specifically we like competition at the position.

  161. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The competition problem was unavoidable unless you think a true freshman (Morris) should be pushing Jacory since Highsmith was not recruited with the intention of needing much playing time (and don’t tell me we should have had the foresight, we had 4 damn QBs in front of him)

    >>>>>>

    Exactly.

  162. avatar
    Sh!tHead McDonald says:

    CANEZ1,

    I asked the question on TOS………What if damn near the entire 08′ recruiting class not been from MIA/So Fla, how many of those kids would’ve come here, and what shape would we be in now?

    Of course the responses I got WEREN’T even keeled, (they were all optimistic) but you’ve gotta wonder…….Is Coach quite the recruiter we’ve cracked him up to be, or is all his recruiting success, well, convenient circumstance?

    If USC wasn’t all yolked up, would Seantrel really be here?

    Randy REALLY can’t afford to lose his recruiting touch. It’s the one thing we were sure he was good at, while most of the other stuff was in question.

  163. avatar
    BahamCane says:

    Anybody seen J-12 groin?

  164. Canez1 says:
    October 12, 2010 at 4:05 PM

    Menocal says one aspect of the game particularly troubled him.

    And it had nothing to do with what was happening on the field.

    “Recruits were rooting for Florida State,” said Menocal, who remained for the entire game. “There was a guy in my row throwing the FSU tomahawk. I was like `What are you doing?’ It was kind of disappointing.”

    *********************************************************************

    Awesome!! We invite these recruits to the game and they are tomahawking and rooting for us to lose!!!

    WOW is all I have to say.

    The future is bright indeed.

    NOW I am thoroughly disgusted on ALL levels…..

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    What until you hear about the snafu at the recruiting entrance. AMATEUR HOUR indeed!

  165. shwarma says:
    October 12, 2010 at 4:26 PM

    New question – Why won’t J12 stand up and lead? Someone must have some insight here.

    Because he’s NOT a vocal leader. That has to be inside you. Love him or hate him, Teabag was a leader and winner. J12 had so much talent around him that it was EASY in HS. Adversity has crept into the equation now and dealing with it is not as easy as they thought. I like the kid, I really do but he has some maturing and growing to do, and its not helping him the way they keep throwing him out there to the wolves. He has the heart of a lion but the body of a house cat. He’s not durable on this level and its killing him. What’s even worse they keep sending him out there, as if he’s not beat up enough. The limping run to the worse slide I’ve ever seen on Saturday made me so mad I had to chuckle. At what point is enough enough? At 100% he was making mistakes and bad throws already? Why even have a back-up? At this rate J12 could break his leg and they’d send him out there with a crutch and make him go under center with 7 step drop.

    Disheartening.

    :-(

  166. bg just tell us what happened? Recruits names not on the list? No seats? Wrong names like Nick O’Sunshine or Denzel Winkleman?

  167. raizecane says:
    October 12, 2010 at 4:32 PM

    OK….just for giggles; let’s say that Spurrier is the head coach at UM. How long do you think JH lasts playing the way he is playing????

    And for those who say we don’t have a backup that is equal to an injured JH, then I ask this question…..who is recruiting our QB’s that can’t come in and compete right away?? The staff is either being loyal to JH which contradicts their “we will recruit someone to replace you” line, or we are just not recruiting well / developing well. We will be in trouble for a long time if something doesn’t change and soon

    He would’ve been BENCHED like Garcia was in the heat of the battle vs Auburn for a TRUE FRESHMAN!

  168. shwarma says:
    October 12, 2010 at 5:03 PM

    bg just tell us what happened? Recruits names not on the list? No seats? Wrong names like Nick O’Sunshine or Denzel Winkleman?

    “Ran into Chickillo last nite entering the stadium (atleast trying to enter the stadium–it was total chaos). He is a monster, legit 6’3″ and a huge frame, looks like a college player already. He was wearing his 3rd generation UM shirt but was not in a good mood. He was desperately trying to get into the stadium, as were 10,000 others, and was screaming his name to the check-in girl trying to get his ticket.

    I told him “welcome to the family” and he flat out said “Man this is ********, I dont feel like family, Im rethinking my whole commitment after this” obviously frustrated with the chaos at the recruit entry gate. Now I certainly dont think he was serious but it was disappointing to here. Do we have the worst run program in the whole country at every level?? It was out of control at the recruits/former player gate, about 7:30, pushing, screaming, people jumping the gates, fights breaking out, police handcuffing fans, a total embarassment to the whole operation and UM program. These are our former and future players, what are we doing?? Wonder why our attendance sucks…I would never bring a kid to watch a Miami Hurricane game in that stadium. Maybe a noon game against some patsy when only 45k fans show up, certainly never to a packed house game. You got to think that recruits at other schools get the red carpet for big games, ours get thrown to the wolves.”

    I was there. It was that bad. Rabasa was laughing at us.

  169. * QB Teddy Bridgewater addressed his concerns to us on Sunday. He believes the playcalling hasn’t been very good lately and believes Miami has been too predictable. Bridgewater remains fully committed to the Canes, however, and will be the only QB in this year’s class.

    * RB recruiting is all but done. The last option was 4-star Marlin Lane, who told me over the weekend that he’s no longer considering the Canes. He considers himself a strong commitment to Clemson and even visited Florida for their game against LSU over the weekend.

    * WR recruiting is still unclear at this point. Eli Rogers and Phil Dorsett are solid commitments but the Canes probably need another one or two. The top targets still appear to be George Farmer and Sammy Watkins. Clemson’s not been good on offense this season but it’ll be interesting to see how much that matters to SW. Farmer’s trying to get down here for a visit and that will likely take place in December.

    * UM’s top tight end prospects were at the game on Saturday. Nick O’Leary was leaning towards FSU going into the game and that’s probably even more so the case now. The Canes have a major uphill battle there. Keep an eye on Brandon Fulse, who grew up a UM fan and will visit here after the season. He thinks he can come in here and play right away.

    * O-Line wise, Marcus Jackson is a solid commitment. He was at the game on Saturday and is every bit of 6-2, probably 6.2.5 He weighs in the 310 range — build like Harland Gunn.

    * DE commit Anthony Chickillo was at the game and is frustrated with how things are going. He didn’t have a great experience as a recruit attending a game and may take a few other visits but I’d be shocked if he ended up elsewhere.

    * At DT, California’s Todd Barr is in the process of setting up an official to UM for December. He’s very much in the picture and is one of the top DT prospects out West.

    * LB Denzel Perryman is keeping his options open and will take visits but he’s still a big Miami fan. It’s gonna be hard to imagine him going anywhere else.

    * The loss to FSU stings but don’t expect UM to lose any commitments over it and they’ll still get the kids who wanna come. It just made things that much tougher with guys like O Leary, who were on the fence.
    Mike Bakas
    Scout.com/FoxSports

  170. we aight!

  171. avatar
    raizecane says:

    BG says – He would’ve been BENCHED like Garcia was in the heat of the battle vs Auburn for a TRUE FRESHMAN!

    ************************************************************

    Very true….and what did Garcia do after that? Played like his job was on the line to the point he beat the #1 team in the country

  172. raizecane says:
    October 12, 2010 at 5:17 PM

    BG says – He would’ve been BENCHED like Garcia was in the heat of the battle vs Auburn for a TRUE FRESHMAN!

    ************************************************************

    Very true….and what did Garcia do after that? Played like his job was on the line to the point he beat the #1 team in the country

    Absolutely. But Garcia is 100% HEALTHY. Our guy, not so much.

  173. bg good info and that is a damn shame. more of that outside forces crap I was talking about. Someone just needs to say I am going to fix this – its not exactly rocket science. Have a list, have escorts and call it a day (paging the athletic department)

  174. Shwarma.

    That’s why I keep saying I’m not just disappointed in the team or coach, but I’m disappointed in the program as a whole. We are in serious trouble guys and if you can’t see it you have on orange and green shades.

    http://static3.slamxhype.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/house-of-holland-linda-farrow-sunglasses-front.jpg

  175. define serious trouble

  176. Every time I look at this I get PISSED…

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qdBfsTqUUk

  177. Esteban says:
    October 12, 2010 at 5:33 PM

    define serious trouble

    The loss, the negative chatter, coach bumbling yesterday with the media, J12 being hurt, perfect storm for disaster. Very possible the team could lose to UNC, GTech, and VTech. It is VERY possible. People are upset now, but they will be LIVID if that happens, hell if the Canes just lose 1 more they’ll be livid. They will call for his head as they are now. Does the administration cave in? Who knows? But even if they do, they are NO BETTER because they are part of the problem.

  178. I mean honestly, who REALLY believes we are going to run the table from here on out? I believed we would after tOSU, but now I absolutely do not.

  179. bg – I don’t think the sky is falling quite as much as you seem to indicate, but a storm is brewing and not the good kind.

    I think as informed fans we had/have a lot of faith in guys like Randy and Kirby, but as things do not improve we are questioning that big time. And it stings a little bit more since we beleived we were on the road back and I think there was some good ole honest pride in doing it the right way that adds to this pain

    I am not yet willing to say we hit the wall, but rather are at impasse. Where we go will say a lot about how everyone involved personally challenges themselves (my theme of the day).

    And do I think we could win out, actually as long as J12 doesn’t get any more banged up, it is possible. Probable is a whole other story.

  180. its possible that we lose all those games and its possible we win them all. more likely probably would be that we win at least one and lose at least one. in that scenario hopefully we’d win 2. just have to see how this team react. see how the coaches react. i don’t care what Shannon says to the media. especially after a loss like that. he’s just saying whatever. want to see what they do. its only one loss if they allow it to be only one loss. we’ll see.

    and why you watching the FSU highlights for? i know i ain’t rewatching that game for at least a while.

  181. @ Esteban says

    I couldn’t rewatch the game. I deleted it. They turned the game off so I watched the ESPN recap to see how it ended. Just angers me.

  182. Absolutely, Este.

    I’m interested to see how our guys respond.

  183. Shwarma.

    I hope you are right. I want us to be successful and I want coach to be successful, but my confidence meter is really low bro. I wish it was different but it is what it is. I’m not falling for the corporate lines and talking a good game ANYMORE. I’m from Missouri now….

    SHOW ME, Don’t tell me, SHOW ME

    I’m ALWAYS going to be a Miami fan and I am always going to root for the Canes, but that loss took a lot of wind out of my sails. It really did. As I said, I LOVE the Miami Hurricanes BUT I HATE THE U. I hope we get back to being Miami Hurricanes because THE U has been nothing but let down after let down.

  184. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I’ll say it again…

    Either this is the catalyst to great things or it’s randy’s downfall.

    We don’t pummel Duke by 30 and whip UNC real good then to me it’s a sign that Randy is out the door.

    Why?

    Good teams take something like this and own it – like Tebow did in 08. Watch Bama next game and I bet they roll something awful.

    This team is either going to make a complete 180 from this or they’re destined to repeat it.

    I say we’ll know by halftime this weekend.

  185. ^^^What Truth Said^^^

  186. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And the worst part is even writing that I know Miami isn’t beating Duke up on Saturday.

  187. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I think they win, but I don’t think it’ll be an a*s whipping like it needs to be

  188. Truth.

    Thanks for being HONEST. That’s all I’m trying to be. I don’t think so either and I don’t think we run the table. Just being honest. Do I hope we do? ABSOLUTELY. Is that realistic? Maybe. Do I think we do it? No. Because when we play well coached teams like the 2 Techs and UNC that will be amped to knock our asses off, 1.) we won’t match the intensity and 2.) they will out coach and prepare us. You guys KNOW I’ve NEVER talked like this, but this is the same way I felt when the LSU game went down. We all know how that turned out. I don’t see ANYTHING YET that makes me feel any different. We shall see.

  189. Truth fair enough and I agree, but is that based on J12’s health? I know you don’t feel he is cutting it period, but how much is a groin is a groin, going to effect him?

  190. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Shwarma

    I don’t think Jacory is very good. Period. I said it before FSU…he needs to be benched. Garcia at SC was a great analogy.

    Him being hurt just makes it more of a necessity IMO.

  191. In favor of whom, IYO?

  192. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    The Truth says:
    October 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM
    Because Stanford has an OL that can make holes AND hold blocks, a QB that makes throws and WR’s that catch

    That’s how.

    All offenses look good when those things happen.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    Dude you couldn't have said it any better. How about this Cav…I see you getting so complicated about stuff bro…Its not that hard. This team is just well coached plain and simple. Harbaugh? Do you see what kind of toughness he demands out of his players. They bring the toughness every week and he demands that and they deliver. You are comparing Apples to Oranges. When Randy says after the game to Don Bailey, "I did not have this team prepared.." Well brother he doesn't have it. You can talk about this strategy and that strategy but if you don't bring the toughness and demand from your players you get $hitty results. Plain and simple. Its not hard bro. this pattern has been going on for 4 years. Your just in denial and I know its hard. This is the reality of where we are at.

  193. avatar
    The Truth says:

    ..and even though this is about something different it does relate to the Canes where we are as fans on here:

    Anger is a wasted emotion. It drives us to feel and do things that are pointless and hurtful. If someone earns it outright, let them have it, by all means…but holding on to it is a waste of time and negative energy. You can’t live your life angry because you victimize yourself and when it comes to life, at the end of the day, there are no real victims.

    I’m over FSU. I hope Randy turns this around right now. The players want that. I just hope Randy hasn’t sucked the life out of these kids to the point that it’s too late.

    This program has my support always.

  194. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Mike…does it matter?

    I hear you…who right?

    But right now he needs a seat. Period.

  195. Truth, I agree with you there.

    But who gets first crack at it?

  196. avatar
    The Truth says:

    LOL No one!! Jacory ain’t takin a seat!!!

    I’d let highsmith and whipple flip flop all day against Duke and just run every running play in the book.

    Stupid, I know. But I think Jacory needs to know he ain’t sh*t right now.

  197. I say you put in whip Jr and let him roll.

    No one knows that offense better and his skills are adequate. We don’t need a stud. We need a game manager that can get the ball into the hands of the skill kids that can make a difference all mcelroy.

    I will even go out on a limb and say the team rallies behind him and the breathe of fresh air he brings.

    something has to happen and happen fast.

    Keep it simple stupid. That’s my motto.

    Atleast he will look the part even if he doesn’t light up the scoreboard.

    If I see one more Gimp out of Jaskinny I am going to shoot someone or just take him out back and put ol yeller out of his misery.

    Kid is fragile.he must be French….

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  198. That’s better Canez 1

  199. and Whipple Jr. throws such a pretty pass it’s ” like a roll of toilet paper”, according to Streeter.

  200. Here’s what i know, we got jeff stoutland counting o-line starts from other programs, we fluzzi counting whether or not 2 bad special teams plays out of 40 a game is not that bad an average, than we don’t bring in 2 linebacker recruits because of problems before even setting foot on campus. c-mac is just another example of a player having to play out of position because of the lack of recruiting, and while i understand shannon not trying to bring in what considered borderline problem players, i’ve never thought that was the way to go.

    This is why i’ve had a problem from day 1 with shalala and her “we’re recruiting a different type of athlete” WTF is that shat. I know alot of people got good things to say about her, but that bullshat right their never allowed me to respect her. I’d like to ask her to explain that shat.

    We got a lot of good players on this team, some trying to be great and some just out their thinking they great already. shannon has this team pointed in the right direction, make no mistake about it, the question is, will he come up with the answers to get this team over the hump and on to greatness or being a consistent playing team.

    benny v, you won’t hear me say just because they played at UM that’ll make them a great coach. Apparently you didn’t read what i wrote the right way. So i’ll repeat it for you and anybody else that may have misunderstood what i posted. I said this in shannon’s 1st year and his 2nd year when he hired that coachign staff.

    I wanted for the longest if possible for shannon to somehow bring back soldinger and art kehoe, i knew he wasn’t bring back vernon heargraves(cause they don’t see eye to eye for whatever reason) My whole point to bringing those guys back had everything to do with what alot of yall are asking for and expecting to see now and that’s UM football. I brought this point up many times, only to have people say shat like, they’re not the only coaches who know how to coach their positions, and alot of people blowing that shat off like it was no big deal.

    In games like saturday nighit and even against ohio st. this year, you’re going to need a soldinger or a vernon heargraves, coach petri understood what the problem was and he challenged his guys to know affect but at least he recognized quick, it wasn’t about x’s and o’s, it was about guys giving full effort, and the d-line didn’t do that bad, it’s just that we didn’t have linebackers to clean up anything. When you see the safeties getting chopped down by the fullback, that’s a problem. Bottom line, shannon can’t instill that UM type football alot of us know and luv by himself, he needs assistants to do it. I said along time ago, shannon not only has to raise the players to a championship level, but he has to do the same with the majority of the coaches on this staff too.

    You can’t replace guys who know what winning championships are and are all about with with guys like fluzzi and stoutland and to a degree, mcgriff. At least coach mcgriff at the end of year 4 with him, the secondary has improved in pass coverage, with the exception of that one touchdown given up by mcgee, that was just a text book pass and catch, mcgee would’ve had to basically run that route to stop that one, but at the end of the day, it was coaching that did us in, and particularly the assitnat coaches, fsu has better assistant coaches than we do, and that’s the bottom line.

    cassano, go head and keep him, that man’s unit is balling. coach petri, go head and keep him too, he’ll definitely help our d-line out, But when it comes to aubrey hill, i never wanted him here, he’s a gator, so he’s use to getting beat by fsu, and our receivers are starting to play like gator receivers. coach stoutland, franklin and figs have been under his tutelage for 4 years now, if he couldn’t get anyone up to speed to replace matt pipho, that’s when i knew for coach stoutland was below average in coaching o-lines. No need to discuss fluzzi, after at least 5 years of his bullshat, that’s the one area where shannon definitely was wrong in his interview after game, no other unit on this team has been more consistent over the last 5 years than special teams since fluzzi has been.

    That’s the one unit that’s consistently “F” up pretty much every game since he’s been here.

    I honestly just never saw us getting back to UM type football with these assistants in place. coach barrow, i’m not sure if it’s him or not, but he hasn’t had much to work with as well. He started off with glenn cook and romeo davis.

    Alot of people calling for luke to coach the team, but i do agree with the part about shannon needs to tuen these boys lose and let em play like they’re suppose. One of the things shannon do that hurts the team for sure is harp on not getting negative plays, because those hurt the team, yeah, while they do hurt the team, it’s about teaching these players how to bounce back right after another play.

    assistants like fluzzi & stoutland, they’ve never been in battles like the fsu game was saturday night where it basically wasn’t about x’s and o’s, so their wills got over ridden by the wills of the fsu coaches.

    While jimbo basically ran about 5 plays all night, it was the method in which he called those plays that made them effective. IT’s safe to say jimbo did/does more with 5 plays than whipple does with that encyclopedia of players he has. It’s not about how much you know, it’s about how much you get understood. Right now, whipple is more interested in trying to impress people with the size of his play-book, when most college teams don’t even run that many plays. Put it this way, the shat whipple is running in college wouldn’t even work in the pro’s.

    I can’t blame j12 that much, especially when i saw the man myself make plays time after time last year. if j12 didn’t have heart, we would’ve lost several games 3 years ago, and a few more last year. Going into his 3rd year here and 2nd year with whipple, whipple didn’t end up in the college ranks by chance, he has alot of work to do. Our coaching staff, their good in the initial phase of the game, but when it comes to adjusting or forcing other teams to adjust, that’s what we’re missing out on.

    As far as recruiting goes, i’m not worried about that, those who will come will come, those who don’t, who gives a ratz azz whether they come here or not. Get a guy soldinger in here who understands what it takes “TO BE A MI–AMI HUR-RICANE” and build em up right, you bring in a kehoe, guys who’ve coaches champions after champions. HAd shannon been aligned with assitant coaches like that, we’d be alot further along on the offensive side of the ball. Defensively we’re getting back to where we need to be, this one game is not going to undermine that process, we still got work to do on that side of the ball.

    That technique that tricket teaches though, is borderline holding, i’ve never seen any o-linemen contain olivier vernon like that for a whole game, alot of times his jersey was damyum near twisted off, he’s normally hard to contain, irregardless of technique.

  201. lol!!

    I am officially on the whip Jr bandwagon.

    If anyone can run the mad scientists offense its Jr.

    I got a feeling about this one.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  202. And remember this, a running team is always a tougher team, we’re a pass happy team, that’s what has helped to make this team soft.

  203. I would luv to see jr. whipple start versus duke myself, since jacory wants to go and sit his azz in the corner, and than for whipple to be the oc and let em do that, that’s even more dissappointing, if the oc and qb are not talking, especially when you got zero to 7 points to show for anything, that’s not coaching, that’s just calling plays. Hell i can call plays, it’s like being the guy that calls out the numbers at a bingo game.

  204. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I agree Calvin…

    Since Jacory wants to be by himself instead of dealing with his offense then let someone else take it for a bit and drive it…

  205. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    bg1906
    October 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM
    * QB Teddy Bridgewater addressed his concerns to us on Sunday. He believes the playcalling hasn’t been very good lately and believes Miami has been too predictable. Bridgewater remains fully committed to the Canes, however, and will be the only QB in this year’s class.

    >>>>>>>

    WELL IMAGINE THAT……

    Y’all think I’m crazy talking about Whipple huh???

    I’m telling you. If Whipple DOES NOT MIX UP THE RUNNING, PASSING AND FORMATIONS, we’ll probably lose another and possibly get Shannon fired.

    It’ll be like Coker all over again, the defense doing everything to support the predictable offense.

    The difference is Whipple has the plays to call and has called them but only for one maybe two series.

  206. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Let Whipple Jr. start. Why not? He may take the quick dump off when lines up under center with no RB. lol

    Actually it might work the way it worked with Philly when McNabb went down and suddenly Andy Reid was FORCED to run the ball more with Garcia back there.

    I guarantee he won’t call the same types of plays with Whipple Jr back there.

  207. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Kid is fragile.he must be French….

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    >>>>>>>>>

    LMAO!!!!! Classic.

  208. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, you’re spot on about the team doing a 180.

    Here’s to Whipple helping them out and making their jobs a little easier.

  209. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    But even if we win out, the bigger question about this team and Shannon won’t be answered until we actually WIN A BIG GAME.

    But it all starts with Duke.

    Honestly, we are more than capable of whooping all these teams left. They simply cannot let up. Shannon cannot ease off the throttle.

  210. Retired for nearly five years, Sherman Lewis was about to go to the senior center to call a bingo game when the Washington Redskins phoned.

    Lewis, therefore, left behind one set of “I’s” – I-18? I-20? – and instead became a “fresh set of eyes,” inserting himself in an awkward situation with a struggling team.

    “I had to go to the senior center and cancel my bingo calling,” said the 67-year-old Lewis, who last worked in the NFL with the Detroit Lions during the 2004 season. “And I had to cancel my Meals on Wheels today.”

    this ^^^ is from last year. Great analogy Calvin!

  211. Holy cr@p went to school and the sky is falling even more!

  212. So should the school scrap the football program?

  213. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Yes CC!!!

    And the parking problems are Shannons fault too!!

  214. jacory is one of the best qb’s out their in the college game period. Does he need coaching, hell yes, is he getting it from whipple, and bg, you’re worst than tomahawk, how many Got Damyum times you gone bring up “where’s our tebow” WTF, that fake mofo hype shat he use to do on the sidelines, that team won because of their defense, and some timely play calling, how many times we could see the jump pass coming or the misdirection shovel pass to that tight-end they had. While tebow was good for that system were you impressed by him for 3 and 1/2 quarters 3 years ago when we basically were shutting that shat down with glenn cook as the starting middle linebacker.

    Stop bringing that dude up as if we’re suppose to agree with you on that point. As someone said earlier, gavin hardin is not on the team no more, so guys just sat their saturday. I’m dissappointed in a guy like ojomo, he’s basically non exsistent out their, that guy is playing like he had an acl tear, not a cracked jaw.

    This team needs whipple to cut that ridiculous playbook down, and run some shat that’s more effective and fits the personnel he has to work with. You can’t just run what you want to run on offense, you have to fit the scheme to the players you have. Otherwise, we might as well let travis benjamin play qb and spilt jacory out wide. That’s one of whipple’s biggest problems. I don’t care how much you train these wide-outs, some will do better than others in certain areas and vice versa. All of them can’t be slot receivers.

    Could it be, but here is the one time i can see, and it would be funny as hell, but i can see solarCane now talking shat about this offense hasn’t been shat since his boy thearon collier left, meanwhile aj2 is still here and we haven’t heard anything from him, lol.

  215. So you think I get a refund on my 3 season tickets?

  216. Calvin not too many schools are recruiting that kind of player anymore. I am sure UNC is going to rethink their recruiting practices. Most of the guys that Randy knew were bad seeds, did turn out to be so.

    You do not have to be “bad” to be a good football player, J. Vilma, DJ Williams, Ken Dorsey, J. Gonzalez, K2, Frank Gore, Willis, Ed Reed…..any stories of these kids doing anything bad? No, they just had a leadership ability that not lots of kids have today. I am so lucky to have the kids I do but some of the things their friends do…….. just make me crazy.

  217. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, lol, Solar would say something like that.

    Seriously though, if Teddy B. sees how predictable Whipple’s playcalling and formations are WHAT THE HELL DO Y’ALL THINK DC’S ARE SEEING???

    And with AJ basically making NO plays because DCs have figured out that he has minimal speed and moves, why not put in Streeter or KT?

    And I’m still waiting on someone to tell me how J12 went from performing better than Luck against the same team last year to Luck ballin’ out and J12 basically being MIA??

    Is that Blandy’s fault too?? Ultimately it’s his responsibility but I’ll be goddam if Whipple’s isn’t the first responsible party.

  218. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    You do not have to be “bad” to be a good football player, J. Vilma, DJ Williams, Ken Dorsey, J. Gonzalez, K2, Frank Gore, Willis, Ed Reed…..any stories of these kids doing anything bad? No, they just had a leadership ability that not lots of kids have today. I am so lucky to have the kids I do but some of the things their friends do…….. just make me crazy.

    >>>>>>>>>

    CC, it’s true and it’s a ridiculous myth. You don’t have to be wild and stupid off the field to be ruthless on the field.

  219. dz8, send that to mark whipple, so he can know where to go if this is all the offense and so called coaching he’s going to do.

    cav, CANEZ1, that’s the main point i want to see with jr. whipple starting, what kind of play calls will be called and if jr whipple is getting pulvarized like jacory has from time to time, how long is it going to take whipple before he goes off on coach stoutland or starts bringing that fire he should’ve been bringing from the beginning. This is the type of move that could in fact ignite this offense under whipple, because it would allow him to see that he’s just calling plays and doesn’t see at all that concerned about jacory being that successful and is just content on, oh well, i called the right play, he didn’t execute it. Ok, let’s see if the problem is really jacory or does whipple call the right plays.

  220. Calvin I totally agree with your last post!!!

  221. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    canechic
    October 12, 2010 at 8:04 PM
    So you think I get a refund on my 3 season tickets

    >>>>>>>>>

    CC, keep them. You’ll get some good games yet.

  222. Oh cap I was just teasing, I will be at all the remaining games no matter what. I am a diehard!

  223. Hey Mike, enjoy your blog. Here’s my answers to your questions:

    1. The U is going nowhere with this coaching staff. That should be obvious at this point.

    2. I expect to finish the season 7-5, w/losses to UNC, VT and either a bowl loss or a clearly inferior team that will catch us off-guard (UVA maybe??).

    3. I would overhaul the OL. Move back Franklin inside, bench Gunn and get Linder in there. Henderson and JJ will have to take their lumps learning the tackle position. Get Hurns, Thompkins, and Streeter some reps at receiver. The drops are unacceptable. Start running the ball more b/c Jacory is hurt, sucks or both and we need to cover up his weaknesses. On defense, move Bailey inside and get Curtis Porter back healthy at the other DT spot asap. I don’t have a problem with the secondary although DVD has never impressed me. No other options at LB we are stuck with what we have. See if we can play a new kicker or punter b/c Bosher is struggling and can’t do both.

    4. I am not confident this team gets back on track. I wish I could be, but give me one shred of evidence that suggests as much. Nope…RS has never won more than 5 games in a row and now we expect him to win 7 to get to the ACC Championship Game then an 8th straight game to win it? I hope I’m wrong but I honestly don’t see it happening. GT, VT, and UNC all have winning records against Randy (3-0 in Butch’s case). Look it up.

    5.My JH Confidence is 5. I like the guy and respect his toughness. He isn’t playing well (he is actually regressing) but he’s all we got. That being said we should bench him at Duke if he is as hurt as he seems to get him ready for UNC.

    6.My support level of this team is about a 6. I will still cheer them and go to games but I will not donate any more of my hard earned $ to the program until Shannon and his staff are gone and this garbage ends. Enough is enough and reality has set in. This program needs a major shakeup.

  224. Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 12, 2010 at 8:12 PM
    You do not have to be “bad” to be a good football player, J. Vilma, DJ Williams, Ken Dorsey, J. Gonzalez, K2, Frank Gore, Willis, Ed Reed…..any stories of these kids doing anything bad? No, they just had a leadership ability that not lots of kids have today. I am so lucky to have the kids I do but some of the things their friends do…….. just make me crazy.

    >>>>>>>>>

    CC, it’s true and it’s a ridiculous myth. You don’t have to be wild and stupid off the field to be ruthless on the field.

    Who said anything about kids being bad, all i said was, WTF is “we’re recruiting a different kind of athlete”.

    It seems to me like they’re not recruiting enuff guys that are hungry enuff to go out their and bust the mans azz lined up across from him. Go back and look up and down the roster of the players from the 80’s, what you’ll find are alot of hungry guys, go to the 90’s these guys were motivated and hungry, in the 2000’s, had alot of guys that were willing to do what it took to be great and they were hungry as well.

    With these different type of athletes on this team no, who’s hungry, i keep hearing them say they ready to eat, but who’s out their really eating, only a few of them. We need for guys to be hungry again litterally while on schalorship so they know the only way out is by being excellent on that football and in the classroom as well. THese guys seem like they don’t plan on playing on sundays no more.

  225. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, I’ll tell you something funny that I see developing, possibly.

    From the interviews it seems like the players have truly taken an Us Against The World view, even of their own fans. In a weird way, they’re really taking on Shannon’s deepest attitude and philosophy.

    Now if this is what it takes for them to play lights out, balls out, True Hurricane Football, wouldn’t that be some funny shyt? lol

  226. You see hankerson out their, he’s ballin like that for 2 reasons and so is damien berry, those guys got 2 kids they got to feed after this year for sure, so they hungry, they out their doing it. In order to acheive a certain level of greatness you got to have enuff of the like mindsets on the same team, for alot of people to be talking about clemson as being a big win, i couldn’t believe what i was reading, we talking clemson, and than pitt, we’re suppose to beat those schools on a regular basis, if not, than we’re defintiely in trouble at UM.

  227. I can agree with that Calvin but are there kids out there like that? You watch more high school ball than me but I think these kids now get to much coverage in high school that they are not as hungry. I think about that NW team so much hype and then a let down….just do not feel that hunger from kids today even outside of football. Life is all about short cuts and the easy way out.

  228. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, I was talking about the perception, not Shalala’s statement. That shyt always sounded off to me too, esp. because the majority of those cats graduated and have led outstanding lives.

    Maybe she’s talking about the Erickson, Pell Grant years….

    As far as the hunger thing, I think it’s there it just hasn’t been ignited enough.

    Like I said before, the ONLY time I’ve seen Shannon express his passion on the field was that play with Epps against A&M in ’07. He’s got to let the kids see that a whole lot more.

  229. cav, let the truth be told, if these mofo’s on this team need to take on anymore attitudes from outside forces, somebody needs to go down their and slap the hell outta all of them. After getting they’re azz whooped like they did saturday night, if they from Miami and they’re looking for fan support, they already know what kind they getting, “yall sorry as hell, let them boyz come in yall own backyard and bust yall azz like that, every time we seem them doing anything like playing video games or going out, we’d be on they azz”

    I’m tired of anybody talking from this team for real, shannon needs to shut his azz too for now. Hell, what the hell is beating duke by 30 going to prove, we’re suppose to do that. In fact, it’s games like duke where we’re suppose to be playing the back-ups to get them ready for when they become starters, especially come next year. I keep tellign yall, the linebacking situation looks weak now, just wait until next year, when c-mac is gone, it’s just be spence and take your pick.

  230. Cal I have to disagree about jascary.

    He is not even a good qb. Average at best.

    He does nothing very well and his wet stringbean arm is a joke.

    He can hit he deep ball once a game unless the guy is wide open, he is an all-star at that, and the short stuff has you holding your breathe.

    He scrambles like an 80 year old and his playaction would only fool an 80 year old.

    He stares his intended receiver down 99% of the time from snap to release and that is why he throws int after stupid int.

    UNC knows it along with every team in the country by now.

    He is always a sack away from the emergency room.

    He is not a leader or a coach on the field, Shannon favorite!!

    Please tell me one good thing he does.

    You watch games across the country and it is more evident every week that he is just not good.

    He has the talent around him but he is just not that dude.

    Wish it wasn’t like that but those are indisputable facts that any scout in the country will tell you and some have already expressed .

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  231. avatar
    raizecane says:

    canechic says:
    October 12, 2010 at 8:15 PM
    Oh cap I was just teasing, I will be at all the remaining games no matter what. I am a diehard!

    **********************************************************************

    I can’t make all the games but should be attending the VT game……

  232. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    CC, you’re right about the shortcut easy way piece. It’s been developing for a while though.

  233. shannon has done everything to gain the respect of others about this team off the field, now it’s time to refocus and get the respect back that everybody had to have for us irregardless, and that’s on that football field. Enuff with all this lip service from shannon and the players, it’s time to either man the phuck up or shut the phuck up until after you graduate. Otherwise, this team does to much talkign and making excuses about why they not winning. No other program makes this many excuses and reasons and stuff like that about why they not winning.
    Go out their and play and go take your respect!

  234. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Canez1, he was fine last year until he really started getting hit. Even in 2008 he was fine in his limited roles.

    It wasn’t until mid to late season 2009 that he started bailing on the pocket.

    I seriously don’t understand your memory with this stuff. It’s like the only things you remember are the bad plays or performances.

    But when I look around, at say Stanford, I don’t see Luck making ANY throws J12 has made even this year. The difference is, Luck has a running game, and a an OC who doesn’t ask him to make NFL throws every other down with the defense pinning back their ears.

    That’s why I’m waiting on one the Jascary bashers to explain to me why and how Luck has improved so dramatically and J12 has worsened in just one year……..

    HOWEVER, Him going in the tank these last few games with this kneeling on the side is EXTRA SHYTTY.

    That’s why I say, Whipple, Shannon or his daddy has got to his head back on straight. That shyt is for the birds.

  235. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, I’m sure they’d rather not say a word and just play but these days that ain’t happening. Someone’s always sticking a mic or a camera in your face so you have to say something.

    But you’re right about it. I’d like to hear one of the players say that.

  236. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 12, 2010 at 7:45 PM
    bg1906
    October 12, 2010 at 5:14 PM
    * QB Teddy Bridgewater addressed his concerns to us on Sunday. He believes the playcalling hasn’t been very good lately and believes Miami has been too predictable. Bridgewater remains fully committed to the Canes, however, and will be the only QB in this year’s class.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    who cares what high school qb thinks….is he the end all of opinion? we could run into the same problem with him at qb as we do jacory….here we go again recruiting one qb with no competition. the cycle is just repeating…wake up…shannon doesn't want his qb to be threatened by competition. who cares if the players have an us verse the world mentality. they are the ones who sucked it up and made it that way…the city of miami was ready to embrace them that night and they flopped…nobody is asking for them to go at it alone. i will make a prediction for the rest of the year. 9-3…nothing proves me otherwise….i hope they win out but you can't point to any evidence that this team will change. no evidence.

  237. avatar
    The Truth says:

    College football is about talent…

    This team is not talented at QB, MLB or Tackle.

    I’ll give a pass to the new RT because hes CLEALY talented but just needs some some.

    The Qb is the most important position on the team.

    the MLB is the most important position is a 4-3

    You got issues with those positions you got issues on your team.

    add to that a HC that sucks the life out of kids with his demeanor and you got trouble.

    This team IS in trouble. BIG trouble if they can;t overcome this setback…bigger trouble if they cant get their QB situation in check.

  238. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Ofranklin is way better than he used to be but i don;t think he’s a LT…thats not his fault…but its an issue

  239. Cav ur view of jh’s skill set must be clouded.

    Tell me which points you disagree with. I wont even get to all the other stuff.

    Everything I mentioned is fact. Not opinion.

    Where is the argument?

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  240. avatar
    The Truth says:

    The Qb is a huge problem because he doesn;t think hes a problem…and now that hes hurt he can use that as an excuse

  241. Jh shouldn’t even be mentioned in he same breathe with luck.

    not even close.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  242. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Cav

    Whip isnt the problem…don;t know how im goint to prove it ti you, but when I do I hope you are a man and admit you were wrong…

    jacory isn;t asked to make NFL throws. Dont know where you are seeing that…hes being asked to throw slants screens, posts, ins and outs…regular old QB stuff…

    HE makes the poor decisions out there, usually on the side of a deep ball and YOU assume because thats the play that was called.

    i got news for you…those pass plays you watch for Stanford ALL have a deep guy…the difference? The QB isn’t a BOZO and doesnt try to play like he did when he was actually a superstar in HS.

    he listens to his coach because he knows he’ll get benched if he doesnt

    Jacory doesn;t

  243. I think J12 has a low tolerance for pain. Randy said it himself, if he was injured he wouldn’t be playing. So that means he is just “hurt”. I’ll give him credit for keeping on coming back but is it now affecting his composure and hurting the team?

    I saw a QB get ruined up here with the redskins when Patrick Ramsey was the qb for Spurriers fun ‘n gun. No protection and Ramsey would be ducking when the ref tapped him on the shoulder.

    Not saying that Whipple is doing anything similar as far as protection for J12 (disagree with your point there Calvin), but the fact is the O line is NOT providing the protection J12 needs or thinks he needs. I see the same loss of confidence in J12 that I did in Ramsey.

  244. This team will only be able to recruit one sofa qb a year anyway under Cadillac man.

    No young stud in their right mind will come down here to roll with the hometown cooking blandy is serving.

    Morris will be the next starter down here anyway. Love this kid.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  245. Thats why I dont think its a big deal to *just* get Bridgewater this year, we already have Morris. Kind of sad that the only year J12 will have any competition is his senior year when he should be the clear cut starter. Irony.

  246. I agree that Big O is NOT a left tackle.
    Ideally

    LT- SH, let his era begin.
    LG- OF, help out the rookies around him, BE A LEADER
    C- Linder, Horn isn’t dominate, BL has more potential
    RG- BWash
    RT- JJ

    JMO

  247. CANEZ1, there have only been about 3 interceptions that jacory has thrown since he’s been here because he was staring at the receiver to long, the 1st i can think of was in the bowl game against cal, where he threw it late, it was on target but he threw t late, the next 1 was in that same year against g-tech and the 3rd one i can think of was the one against clemson last year where mcdaniel scored on, other than that, most of jacory’s interceptions came because of him trying to fit the ball in their(particularly the one greg reid got last year) or just relying on his receivers to make a play.

    None of the ones he threw against ohio st. were because he was staring at the receiver to long, he did try and fit that one into hankerson, and the of course the pass to heyward can fall in the staring category as well to. other than those the rest were deep balls that got picked. If you’re a receiver, that’s what you want, your qb to throw the ball your way in man coverage.

    I’m not worried about arm strength, he has enuff for the college game, it’s the coaching aspect that has hurt him. Just like why is it that nobody else has been able to releive matt bosher of some of his kicking duties, that’s coaching. many freshmen o-linemen starting all over the country, stoutlands been here 4 years, and what we got, we got 3rd year players that can’t even see the field. In comes whipple, yeah he’s over their hanging out next to oc’s in the nfl, but nobody has trusted him to become their oc except us thus far, so it’s not all jacory, and andrew luck is a senior, jacory was a sophmore last year with javariss james and coop as his runningbacks, andrew luck was a junior and had a heisman candidate running the ball for him last year when he put up those numbers against wake forest last year.

    It’s all mental right now with jacory, all these players need to worry about making a name for themselves, don’t worry about trying to impress the players from the past, if you got enuff pride and respect for yourself and your own family name you’ll go out their and ball and make a name for yourself every time you step out their on that field.

    If i’m a player i’m not worried about what irvin or warren sapp is thinking, if anything you go out their and make the players from those days put your name in their mouths, like bennie blades saying, “he was the “SEAN TAYLOR” of his day” and i’ll say it again, while i understand what he’s trying to say, he’ll never be better than SEAN TAYLOR.

    That’s what these players need to focus on, like ray ray said when he came in, i’m playing for ray ray. You can’t be a real player rewatching that game film and unless you’re a scrub, i’m going to my coaches and saying, what am i doing wrong so that never happens again.

    You’ll know whether they have answers and if they don’t than you have to go about making yourself the best player you can be.

  248. Out for awhile.

  249. You don’t just put up 386 yards in a game by luck, you have to have some type of skill set. You don’t just throw for 3000 yards by luck and 24 touchdowns. I’ve seen garbage qb’s and jacory’s not one of them although he’s been playing like garbage lately, but that fsu game, he actually didn’t do to bad. As for ponder, it’s easy to throw to guys who are wide open on roll outs all night, the one good pass he finally did throw was that touchdown pass, other than that, you can’t honestly say j12 is garbage. You saw how that man played against oklahoma last year, that’s the real game to judge him on right their, oklahoma had all of their defense that game.

  250. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Whipple Jr’s not playing against Duke y’all. I’m listening to Shannon’s presser about Duke and they blitz way too much to put in a rookie QB.

    Duke blitzing could definitely be an opportunity for Jascary to get into a groove. Also for Whipple to get off the schnide in his playcalling.

  251. Cal he stares down almost every intended receiver which only makes his bad decisions worse.

    Last year unc picked him off all game because they knew where he was going with he ball everytime.

    They made a statement before the game saying so.

    I have concentrated on watching him and it is what it is.

    His horrible decision making along with all the other flaws are why he is not good.

    Nothing to do with all that other stuff.

    He is not a good college qb in many ways.

    And the most important stat is we are unranked right now and irrelevant once again coming off of a backyard gun fight that we decided to bring a spork to.

    Just like we were when blandy took over.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  252. Even a blind scrawny squirrel finds a nut once in a while.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  253. avatar
    moneycane says:

    Man Saturday can’t get here fast enough. Pretty soon we will be talking about how the way the hair stands on Jacory’s left leg makes him a good/bad QB, and the reason that Shannon isn’t a good head coach is because he uses carmex lip balm instead of Burt’s Bee’s wax. I have never been more excited for us to play Duke in my life. Fact is even if we beat Duke, FSU will still be the topic for the next century. I hope the players get this game out of their system much faster than we have (or haven’t)

  254. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 12, 2010 at 8:54 PM
    Cav

    Whip isnt the problem…don;t know how im goint to prove it ti you, but when I do I hope you are a man and admit you were wrong…

    jacory isn;t asked to make NFL throws. Dont know where you are seeing that…hes being asked to throw slants screens, posts, ins and outs…regular old QB stuff…

    HE makes the poor decisions out there, usually on the side of a deep ball and YOU assume because thats the play that was called.

    i got news for you…those pass plays you watch for Stanford ALL have a deep guy…the difference? The QB isn’t a BOZO and doesnt try to play like he did when he was actually a superstar in HS.

    he listens to his coach because he knows he’ll get benched if he doesnt

    Jacory doesn;t

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    So you’re saying J12 is so focused on the deep ball that he totally ignores his options and reads and rejects Whipple, Shannon and the team’s goals??

    If that’s the case he needs to be benched. I just find that hard to believe, esp. when I’ve seen him make reads and dump the ball short.

    Plus, I see the STARK contrast in the playcalling between Harbaugh and Whipple and I see the totally different level of pressure it puts on one QB/OL compared to another.

    That’s why I put up the Stanford-Wake game stats from 2009 and 2010 and no one has explained to me why Luck is getting better and J12 is getting worse. Why our offense is stalling, week after week, and Stanford’s chugging right along.

    I guess that’s Shannon’s fault too…

    Like I said, Whipple HAS called a textbook mix of run and pass that keeps the defense off-balance but he does it maybe once a game or one a half.

    The rest of the time it’s straight run or straight pass, usually from the same two or three formations.

    It’s in the stats, even compared to Nix, and our top recruit sees it.

  255. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “So you’re saying J12 is so focused on the deep ball that he totally ignores his options and reads and rejects Whipple, Shannon and the team’s goals??”

    YES!

    Its the easiest choice..throw to the deep guys…

    Havent you noticed that Jacory limps or grimmaces after almost EVERY poor play?

    “That wasn’t my bad…I’m HURT” LOL

    That kid has talent but right now he’s a lone ranger and he aint getting it done…

  256. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “If that’s the case he needs to be benched.”

    YES!!

    that’s what Im saying…thats what MOST people around are saying…

    But how do you bench the kid that goves you practically the only chance of winning?

  257. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “I guess that’s Shannon’s fault too…”

    Yes!!!

    he keeps publicly making excuses for the kid and its abundantly clear that the excuses have run out…

  258. avatar
    The Truth says:

    and our top recruit sees it

    yes because those High School kids know EVERYTHING LOL

    If I were you Id be worried about your argument now that a HS kid thinks the same LMAO

  259. Loved your blog, all is not lost. We have 5 rings. Enough said.

  260. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Canez1, if he’s staring them down then who’s teaching him NOT to?? Who’s coaching him out of that habit??

    Most QBs have to LEARN not to stare down their WR at some point in their careers. I cannot believe that J12, Mr. Football Florida does not understand the value of NOT staring down his WRs. Nor do I believe he’s simply unable to not stare them down. You practice something long enough and you can do it.

    Something, somewhere in the teaching is not connecting the dots for him.

    OR

    He’s so pigheaded that he just refuses to improve. Which makes even less sense.

    If it’s the case and Whipple can’t solve it, Shannon’s got to get him back in the team. It’s bad, both the staring, the lack of confidence and the self-isolation.

  261. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Canez1 making sense to me, what’s this world coming too? Put in Jr and get it the playmakers, what a concept!

  262. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Cav

    Look at OSU…

    the 4 pics…

    How many of those were NFL throws buddy? The pass to Heyward was 5 yards in front of his face.

    The throw to Benjamin’s back was 5 yards in front of his face.

    The throw to Hank was 8 yrds

    The throw to that Benjamin bobbled was even a 10 yd out…

    How are any of those NFL throws?

    You’re fooling yourself into making excuses for the kid because he has a great upside when his head is right…

  263. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, all I’m saying is if a HS recruit is seeing a predictability, and the defense’s are clearly shutting things down, along with our QB getting sacked and pressured regularly to the point that he’s throwing off his back foot, SOMETHING IS WRONG.

  264. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “Canez1, if he’s staring them down then who’s teaching him NOT to?? Who’s coaching him out of that habit?? ”

    That would be whipple but he isn;t always listening…and since hes the only kid that really gives Miami a chance to win games he aint going to be benched for it…

    If Bridgewater were on the roster you can bet your a*s hed have ridden some pine.

    How quick would his leash bee of either Marve or Cook were here?

  265. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And im saying Jimbo Fisher was as predictable as it gets Saturday and it didn;t do anything to hinder the 45 points they layed on Miami did it?

    But when you don’t make mistakes thats what the outcome usually is.

  266. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Youre telling me Alabama isnt predictable?

  267. avatar
    moneycane says:

    So to move on to something that is not Jacory related.

    Truth how healthy is Coop. And with the backfield loaded is Coop going to get any carries going forward. Could you see Whipple using the Wildcat with Coop just to give D-Cords something to think about.

    I know a lot of people hate Coop, but I respect what he has done at the U. He might not be the most talented, but he works hard and he finishes his runs off strong.

    I’ll hang up and listen to your answer

  268. Well if nothing else, the qb competition will be open come next year and i’m quite sure jacory doesn’t want to be that guy, who started 2 years in a row and than gets benched his senior year, lol. stephen morris has what it takes to get the job done period. And after next year, if this o-line is not better, that’s if stoutland is still here, than it’s time to upgrade that coaching spot. You petri, get a good o-line coach and live with the rest of the crew, but an o-line coach is just as important as an oc.

  269. avatar
    The Truth says:

    In Fact I would argue that Bama is THE most predictable offense in the country.

    Any they are the best team college football…even despite losing to Spurrier…

  270. That offense they ran saturday wasn’t that precdictable, it was basically the same formation, but if your play-action is above average, and you had some early success running the ball, than those type of plays where the defense may think they know what’s coming are hard to stop. Whoever that d-linemen was, he may have been talking to the fact that they knew it was going to be deep lead running plays, but as far as when they were going to run or pass, that was hard to figure out and the discipline that trickets has been teaching his o-linemen since he’s gotten here, that was the type of game that he’s been waiting on.

  271. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Cook blew it when he transferred, he would have played more here than at Rice, but who knew. …..he sure didn’t think he had much of a shot, so he leaves and J12 has no competition. What’s his motivation as far as the depth chart is concerned? None as far as I can see.

  272. you got petri, now get a good o-line coach to protect basically the franchise qb.

  273. avatar
    The Truth says:

    LOL

    “Truth how healthy is Coop. And with the backfield loaded is Coop going to get any carries going forward. Could you see Whipple using the Wildcat with Coop just to give D-Cords something to think about. ”

    Coop looked good. I have no idea how healthy he is, though. IMO he won;t get more than a couple of carries so long as the other kids are healthy.

    Lamar and Damien will carry the bulk of the load if Lamar is healthy.

    Coop may get more touches as a return man, though…

    And I doubt very seriously there will be any wilcat with Whip. That is a VERY predicatble formation and God knows whip cant afford any more predictability…Teddy Bridgewater won’t like it

  274. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    The Tampa Bay Rays hit only .247 as a team this year and they won their division with the best record in baseball. They are down 2-1 in the 5th against Texas but if they can accomplish what they have with a mediocre hitting club there has to be some hope for the Canes with a mediocre QB, right?

  275. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Thanks Belly

    And I agree

  276. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Money,

    Coop took some pretty good hits Saturday and he ran off the field afterwards and looked okay to me. Truth can probably tell you more but he looked okay to me.

  277. Truth I’m serious about the Wildcat. It can serve a couple purposes.

    1) Coop is capable of throwing the ball, so a big play can be gained from the predictability

    2) Pass pro isn’t the strength of the O-line, but they are some big mofo’s and it will be a hat on hat so to speak

    3) If Jacory is F’in up it will give him time to grab some pine.

    Just a thought, but your right about it being highly unlikely. In all honesty the TD pass to Mike James against Clemson was Wildcat-ish

  278. Calvin

    Come on Man! That was textbook mis-direction 101. There was NOTHING sspecial about it.

    They just ran it well…and the OL was dominant.

    And I trust that kids football IQ. Ive known him for years. He knows what hes talking about…if he says they werent fooled, I believe him.

  279. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, I’m not saying J12 hasn’t made poor decisions. I never once said that. He definitely has. The INT to AJ was 4 yards into the endzone. The three intended for TB were 30+ yards, one throwin into double-coverage and the other two overthrown.

    My point is about playcalling and how an OC keeps a defense off-balance and makes the OL and QB’s jobs easy or difficult.

    Whipple’s playcalling regularly asks the OL to do things they simply do not do well….pass-protect when the DL knows a pass is coming. But he continues to ask them to do it.

    It’s transparent far too much of the time. Transparent and predictable. His formations. His down and distance calls etc. That’s why the offense has flourished in the 1st half the last few games and flopped in the 2nd. It happened at Pitt and Clemson, for the same reasons and with similar results.

    Interestingly enough, J12 didn’t make a bad throw in the 2nd half of either of those games. He did get sacked, rushed and hurried out of the pocket.

    And on 80% of Luck’s passes there was no deep WR cause the passes were 3-step 10-15 yarders. Luck’s deep ball average was about the same as J12’s. The difference was J12 gets deep routes called 4 times as much.

  280. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Miami with something to prove is the best possible position they could be in outside of having Alabama or should I say South Carolina talent?

    How does South Carolina beat Alabama by 14 points and score 35 on that defense and be ranked below Bama?

  281. Yeah Randy I agree. He took some hits, finished runs the way he normally does, and he didn’t have on the knee brace.

  282. …and you would think a kid would rather say they were unprepared or kept off balanced than just say “we got our asses kicked”

    Thats a pretty honest answer…

  283. Truth that’s why I say the term “outcoached” gets misused. If the players know what’s coming i.e. have been properly prepared as to what the opposition wants to do, and still can’t stop it then the players need to take a longer look in the mirror. Not giving the coaches a free pass, but it ain’t the coaches fault that you are getting out worked and not executing.

  284. “My point is about playcalling and how an OC keeps a defense off-balance and makes the OL and QB’s jobs easy or difficult.”

    But what is holding this offense back are all of those poor decisions…

    Again…how difficult is it to throw a 5 tard pass cav? Berry was open and would have walked into the endzone of that pic at OSU…

    Those balls to Benjamin down the field at Pitt hsould have been checked down to shorter routs…AKA “easier throws”

    If he makes those choices then how many mor epoints are scored?? Are you going to be complaining about whips play calling if Miami Scores 45 at Pitt because Jacory doesn;t throw the 2 pics and those drives stay alive and Miami puts up 2 more TD’s?

    No.

    Youre complaining because you see this kid f@cking up and you’re trying to rationalize it by thinking through these ideals that there is some magic to the whole thing…Whipple calls a good enough game that the kid from Stanford would be a heisman candidate here…

  285. It was misdirection 101 for sure but it was the timing of the play calls that made the difference. Here’s what i’m saying, almost all teams run screen passes, that’s a real simple play, but it’s when you call the screen pass that makes it more effective. A player can tell me they knew what was coming all day long, ok, that could be true about that d-lineman, but you could see the linebackers and the secondary didn’t, that’s why fsu had all those wide open underneath routes.

    I was real dissappointed that our defensive ends just let the fsu tight-end go untouched off the line of scrimmage and get right into his route. Now did they know the lead running play was coming, pretty much, but fsu when running their play-action, the d-line couldn’t tell if it was a running play or a passing play because on the interior, fsu executed it the same whether they were running it or passing it! Makes a big difference.

  286. Truth, any chance they burn Morris’ RS?

    and what’s the truth about Orlando and Josh Holmes? I don’t buy the “they got hurt during warm ups”. Pat Hill must have gotten hurt with the same injury that lasted exactly two series like Orlando.

    and i might be the only one not asking to see Streeter out there at WR. how many bone head plays has he made as a gunner? what makes you think he’s focused at WR?

  287. The Truth says:
    October 12, 2010 at 9:51 PM

    In Fact I would argue that Bama is THE most predictable offense in the country.

    Any they are the best team college football…even despite losing to Spurrier…
    —————————————————–
    truth, your right about Bama. Offensively, they are as predictable as they come, but they can be because they have studs, good coaching and are a discipline team.

    They know you know whats coming and dare you to stop it. 9 out of 10 times, you cant stop it, lol.

    Spurier know there was only one way to stop Ingraham and company and that was to get a lead and make Bama throw, make Bama beat them in the air.

    I have to give it to the old ball coach, he went 3, 4 and sometimes 5 wide on offense and Bama coulnt stop their passing game either. Thats one of the unsung things from that game, Bama secondary got torched!

    Coaching is a beautiful thing when its executed right!

  288. If that’s the case, than let’s just start check down jr. vs duke, and we’ll see how well this offense runs.
    If nothing else, jacory is better than kyle wright and kirby freeman. So we have upgraded at the qb position.

  289. “then the players need to take a longer look in the mirror. Not giving the coaches a free pass, but it ain’t the coaches fault that you are getting out worked and not executing.”

    And thats what ALL the former players are saying…

    But the HC has a responsibility to allow these kids certain freedoms on the field that i dont think rabdy gives them. I think its causing them to be tentative…

    I cant put my finger on it and i am a HUGE RAndy fan…but something isnt clicking here and HE IS the one that needs to figure it out

  290. Calvin, i don’t know if it was our DEs or a certain DE. seemed to always go to the TE off the misdirection attacking our LE – mainly Mr. Bailey. I can’t really remember them going to the TE on the other side. They were going to keep doing that to Bailey’s side until he made them pay. He never did seem like he could make up his mind on what he should do.

  291. While people say bama is predictable, how many formations do you see them lined up in, they have their offensive formations correctly instituted, so while it may look like a basic play, guys don’t know if ingram or trent are getting the ball or if it’s a play-action pass. bama is not the best team in the country, the central rockets are vying for that spot this year, northwestern, they’re following in UM footsteps right now.

  292. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 12, 2010 at 9:51 PM
    In Fact I would argue that Bama is THE most predictable offense in the country.

    Any they are the best team college football…even despite losing to Spurrier…

    >>>>>>>>>>

    No, they’re not the best team and NO they are not as predictable as we are. I just heard the commentator say, “AND YET ANOTHER LOOK FROM THE TIDE.”

    They’re not as predictable as we are of late cause they use more formations but more importantly they run and pass out of more formations.

    Case in point. The open up against Duke in the I with Ingram and FB. Then they go two TEs and run again. Then they go pistol look with Ingram in the backfield and 2 WRs. Then on another series they split Ingram out wide with the WRs on 1st down. This is after an INT and they’re up 21-0.

    This is my point. Whipple TELLS THE DEFENSE WHAT’S COMING by his formations 80% of the time.

    You know who can do that??? Dan Marino and his OL and WRs and his ability to audible. Peyton Manning can do it too. No one else can or has.

    And it’s not just Stanford that runs a variety of formations. Boisie runs a ton of formations but more importantly, they run and pass out of these formations. There’s an article today at the SS about how Boisie is running more trick plays to keep defenses off balance.

    Imagine that…keeping a defense off-balance. I wonder why they do that??

  293. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, Spurrier saw the success Arkansas had this year and the succes TX had last year spreading them out and forcing them to defend the pass first.

    Hell, that’s how Utah whooped them in 2009.

  294. You can see when ojomo was in their, they kept dragging that tight-end across from the right defensive end side to bailey’s backside, and i said in the beginning of the year, we don’t need a vilma or ray lewis, we need someone to play at least up to darryl sharpton’s level, at this rate, cmac wouldn’t start over glenn cook at the mike position.

  295. Calvin…come on man!!!

    You watch the game as well as most…WHO was attacked in that game? What matchup was picked at like a 4 day old scab until it bled profusely?

    No one one was fooled. The guys wwere in position aside from a few plays here and there that happen in EVERY game. The plays were designed in a manner that either the MLB was going to make the play at 3 yds or the play was going for 8.

    Guess who couldnt make the play?

    Now what do you do when that kid is the ONLY real option at the position?

    No one was off balance for the most part…the kid that needed to be Dan Morgan couldnt do it.

    If Dan Morgan was the MLB in that game Miami doesnt give 21 points…

  296. “But the HC has a responsibility to allow these kids certain freedoms on the field that i dont think rabdy gives them. I think its causing them to be tentative…

    I cant put my finger on it and i am a HUGE RAndy fan…but something isnt clicking here and HE IS the one that needs to figure it out”

    Truth I know the job is an order of magnitude different from DC to HC, but was the freedom thing a problem when Randy was the DC? And what freedoms aren’t being granted?

  297. cav, don’t disrespect steve spurrier, he just used the same formula he used when he was with the gators, when he was stepping on the secs neck, saban included, so no need for him to see what any other team is doing for him to beat saban. spurrier has a real good idea in attacking certain defenses.

  298. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And thats what ALL the former players are saying…

    But the HC has a responsibility to allow these kids certain freedoms on the field that i dont think rabdy gives them. I think its causing them to be tentative…

    I cant put my finger on it and i am a HUGE RAndy fan…but something isnt clicking here and HE IS the one that needs to figure it out

    >>>>>>>>

    Absolutely. He’s got to figure it out. He knows the expectations. Hell, they’re his same expectations.

    He’s got to figure out how to get more from his OL-DL, how to cover up C-Mac, how to get his WRs to catch every damn ball, how to get Whipple to KEEP DEFENSES OFF-BALANCE, and how to get J12 out of his self-exile.

    Not necessarily in that order…

  299. So youre saying when you prepare for alabama and you get your stat sheet handed to you, you dont go into preparing for Alabama knowing that no matter what they SHOW they are going to run it?

  300. COME ON GUYS!!!!!

    Give me a break!!!

  301. moneyCane, that’s one of the reasons ww2 and arthur brown never saw the field that much, shannon is strict when it comes to scheme dicispline, to a point where he wants robots.

    As far as cmac, i knew he was going to get exposed, he doesn’t have good play recognition, so him being a midddle linebacker is not going to do him any good. We would’ve been better off just letting kylan robinson man the middle, put cmac back at his normal spot and go from their.

  302. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, that’s true about Spurrier. haha I forgot about his good old days, when I actually liked him and his teams.

  303. i’m curious to see which players that started last week aren’t starting this week.

  304. Aight T. I should be studying for a test anyway. You seemed to be on a roll so I was trying to get the questions in.

  305. I dont know but I remember my dad taking me out to practices and listening to the coaches tell Mira jr to call what he saw…

    I remember Butch giving Morgan that type of freedom.

    I don;t know if Randy allowed Vilma that kind of freedom but they sure played like it.

    What I DO know is TODAY if Randy tells a kid that he needs to take 3 steps to the right and one to the left that kid BETTER do THAT or else.

    Sometimes the kids see it differently but can still get you the same result.

    So maybe…and this is my opinon, the kids are afraid to screw up and thats why they play so tight.

    I think maybe it was necessary in 2007 and 2008 but these days a kid like Ray Ray needs to be told, “do what you do, but make the play” instead of ” be here THIS way or Jo Jo is getting the start”

  306. Now i know that’s true about randy, and that was my knock on him back when willie williams was here. That man made plays, ray lewis was the same way, out of position but made plays. I do remember shannon letting vilma call the defense though. But if shannon doesn’t like the way you answer certain questions when he quizzes you, dont worry about playing, the majority of it has to do with shannon and his disgust for what he deems as a player not hungry enuff to learn their playbook.

    He doesn’t understand, some players have to play on instincts not scheme.

  307. I think right now it might just be the thing holding this whole team back…

  308. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 12, 2010 at 10:24 PM
    So youre saying when you prepare for alabama and you get your stat sheet handed to you, you dont go into preparing for Alabama knowing that no matter what they SHOW they are going to run it?

    >>>>>>>>>

    Truth, of course, what are you talking about?
    That’s why Spurrier whooped them,. He held them to 34 yards rushing. He said Mcleroy is going to beat us. That’s what you do. You know their bread and butter is running, which should be your bread and butter.

    But in watching the 1st Q of their Duke game I’ve seen more formations, more mixing of run and pass on each series from Bama than I’ve seen from us this year.

    But the main question is……

    WTF IS OUR BREAD AND BUTTER??

    2 YEARS INTO THE WHIPPLE EXPERIMENT AND WE HAVE NO IDENTITY WHATSOEVER ON OFFENSE OTHER THAN J12 THROWING FROM THE SHOTGUN.

    What am I missing?

    Until I see him call series after series with variation of formation and attack on down and distance situations, he’ll remain suspect and I’ll consider him part of the problem, especially if he continues to put the QB and OL time after time in spots where they’re asked to do things they don’t do well.

    Come on Truth. What OC asks two true frosh and a converted guard to pass protect repeatedly from formations where NOTHING ELSE CAN HAPPEN BUT A PASS??

    It also makes a DBs job easier cause they know what’s coming and can sit back and wait. Throw in J12’s love of the long ball and there it is.

  309. I heard a disconcerting story tonight about stuff going around Hecht. I wish that person would post it verbatim so I don’t mess it up.

    If you are reading, hint hint! ;-)

  310. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, does Ray Ray really know enough to be given that freedom?

    Was Ed Reed given that freedom when he was a true soph??? How about Morgan as a true sophomore?

    Shannon let Vilma literally call the entire defensive first series of the TN game in 2002, so if he has confidence in you he’ll give you leeway.

    But right now the only players on defense Shannon could give that to is Spence.

  311. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ, just give us the gist.

  312. Winning solves a lot of problems!

  313. At this rate, come next year, kevin nelson is going to have to be what they’ve said he was going to be. tyrone cornelius, we need you man and whoever the else we got in the hole for next year.

  314. A lot of fallout with Coach’s response to the loss, not the loss itself, from admin.

    That is being very general because this is third hand information. You know how the game of telephone works. I don’t want to post specifics that aren’t true.

  315. Is RS the 2nd coming of Butch Davis? He can recruit, but dont have what it takes to take a team to that next level.

  316. U know Randy would love to have been a head coach in the pre-blog/high speed internet era. Just worry about the field n da classroom.

  317. Not sure bout that BahamCane..If not for the BCS screwing the Canes over in 2000, Butch would have led his team to the National Title game vs Oklahoma.

  318. @Calvin

    You are missing the point. When I say where is our Teabag I’m not talking about the stuff he used to do hype up his team or sideline. I’m talking about where are our Team Leaders? Since you don’t like the Teabag reference, where is our Ed Reed, Joaquin Gonzales, Ken Dorsey, Jereome Brown, Michael Irvin, guys that when they talk the team listens and they get results….

    I respect you dawg, but I don’t see that guy and I will call that out EVERYTIME no matter who likes it or not.

  319. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, it took Butch five years to beat FSU or VT. He lost by double digits to FSU for all five of those years. It took six years to build the 2000-2001 teams. He went through four QBs or so and who knows how many other players.

    But he did bring them to that next level. No doubt about it. He just made the dumbest decision in the history of football by leaving when he was on the cusp of greatness.

    Meanwhile, he took over a team that finished 10-2 and played for the NC. So he had a lot of continuity even after the schollies were cut.

    The one major difference between Butch and Shannon otherwise is staff. Butch kept the UM tradition in place for the most part, while adding Coker as the OC. And Coker called plays exactly the way Butch wanted them, strategically. Of course Coker handled the game playcalling.

    This is to me the costliest series of mistakes Shannon’s made….Nix, Walton and Hurtt in particular. Whipple we’ll see.

    Now if Shannon had taken over the 2002 or 2003 squad, even, I don’t think we’d be having this conversation.

    Right now, he’s at a crossroads. He’s going to have to dig deep and inspire the players to dig a whole lot deeper and for the first time since 2001, DO IT FOR WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK until it becomes the normal level of play.

  320. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM
    At this rate, come next year, kevin nelson is going to have to be what they’ve said he was going to be. tyrone cornelius, we need you man and whoever the else we got in the hole for next year.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Nelson, Gaines, Cain, Cornelius, Spence, Buchanon, Futch and T. Williams…..and maybe Holton.

    It could be a solid group. I’d feel better about them if they got some burn this year but if they’re close to Vilma levels they’ll be at least as good as C-Mac, Cook, etc..

    Futch, Spence and Buchanon could lead the charge, with the youngins coming in.

  321. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    To mention a positive accomplishment,

    The first Chilean Miner has been lifted out of the mine, after 69 days under ground, the process went smoothly and pray that all 33 get out plus the medic who went down into the mine to do medical checks.

    What a great accomplishment of the human spirit against all odds, what a remarkable job done by these rescuers and a collective effort by people from many countries that includes the USA.

  322. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Talk about not giving up and responding to adversity, a good lesson for the 2010 Hurricanes!!!

  323. The problem shannon inherited was having incompetent coaches he had loyalty too. He actually should’ve kept palmero and gave coach hurt another responsibility, and should’ve never made walton dc, but that’s loyalty, butch had it easy coming in, in fact all of the coaches had it easy coming in except scnelly. jimmy had it easier because schnelly laid the foundation, pretty much all the coaches that came in, they came in during a time when the program had just won a national championship or were on the verge of doing it. The only 2 guys in the last 30 something years that came in when the program was in shambles is schnelly and shannon, and that’s one of the main reason shannon has to be given credit thus far, he came in and went from a push-cart to a chevy, now can he add the feet to it! No more talking from players, just shut up and let your playing do the talking.

    I mean did they really need to look at game film to actually know that game saturday night was “UNACCEPTABLE” They should’ve felt that way after the 2nd quarter.

  324. JSQ says:
    October 12, 2010 at 10:48 PM
    A lot of fallout with Coach’s response to the loss, not the loss itself, from admin.

    That is being very general because this is third hand information. You know how the game of telephone works. I don’t want to post specifics that aren’t true.

    I told you all yesterday that he REALLY messed up with that and we are in trouble. I talk to people that hear these kinds of things. I don’t just make this stuff up.

  325. Hurricane Randy, good post. And bg, i understood exactly what you were trying to say, but use one of our guys for that analogy like “where’s our ed reed or vilma or sapp, don’t use a gator to preface what UM players need to be doing.

  326. @Calvin.

    I gotcha big homie. My bad!

  327. Well, irregardless of what coach said, it’s only one way to fix it, and that’s with the play on the field from here on out, win, and who cares, lose and not make it to where you said it won’t be dissappointing, he won’t have to go home, and yall know the rest. shannon has alot of pressure on em.

  328. It’s all good dawg, you one of the dawgs on this blog, i wasn’t going to respond to that tomahawk bozo cause that would’ve been even more irritating, i just ignored em, and than you when i was reading your post and you kept bring up timmy tea time, i couldn’t take it man, lol, this loss is one that’ll only be eased up if we meet fsu in the acc championship, forget not talking about, this teams, if they got any heart left, will do everything they can to put themselves in position to meet those semenholes in the acc championship game, until than, i could care less about the dukes of the world.

  329. Calvin says:
    October 12, 2010 at 11:33 PM
    It’s all good dawg, you one of the dawgs on this blog, i wasn’t going to respond to that tomahawk bozo cause that would’ve been even more irritating, i just ignored em, and than you when i was reading your post and you kept bring up timmy tea time, i couldn’t take it man, lol, this loss is one that’ll only be eased up if we meet fsu in the acc championship, forget not talking about, this teams, if they got any heart left, will do everything they can to put themselves in position to meet those semenholes in the acc championship game, until than, i could care less about the dukes of the world.

    ^^^This^^^

    Beat Butch, and the 2 Techs get to the ‘Chip and redeem vs the Noles. I will respect that!

  330. We’re in trouble or he’s in trouble? I guess that means both. :/

  331. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 12, 2010 at 11:17 PM
    Calvin
    October 12, 2010 at 10:47 PM
    At this rate, come next year, kevin nelson is going to have to be what they’ve said he was going to be. tyrone cornelius, we need you man and whoever the else we got in the hole for next year.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Nelson, Gaines, Cain, Cornelius, Spence, Buchanon, Futch and T. Williams…..and maybe Holton.

    It could be a solid group. I’d feel better about them if they got some burn this year but if they’re close to Vilma levels they’ll be at least as good as C-Mac, Cook, etc..

    Futch, Spence and Buchanon could lead the charge, with the youngins coming in.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    you have high expectations for player development bro…chill out with your expectations. vilma level? bro do you just say things…do you realize what you are saying?

  332. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    bg1906
    October 12, 2010 at 11:37 PM
    Calvin says:
    October 12, 2010 at 11:33 PM
    It’s all good dawg, you one of the dawgs on this blog, i wasn’t going to respond to that tomahawk bozo cause that would’ve been even more irritating, i just ignored em, and than you when i was reading your post and you kept bring up timmy tea time, i couldn’t take it man, lol, this loss is one that’ll only be eased up if we meet fsu in the acc championship, forget not talking about, this teams, if they got any heart left, will do everything they can to put themselves in position to meet those semenholes in the acc championship game, until than, i could care less about the dukes of the world.

    ^^^This^^^

    Beat Butch, and the 2 Techs get to the ‘Chip and redeem vs the Noles. I will respect that!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<
    agreed bro…

  333. Must get to 10 wins.

    Otherwise…

  334. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    miamimike01
    October 13, 2010 at 12:08 AM
    Must get to 10 wins.

    Otherwise…
    <<<<<<<<<<<<

    i agree with you 100%…next year we have to be a national title contender or it is a bust….

  335. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    you have high expectations for player development bro…chill out with your expectations. vilma level? bro do you just say things…do you realize what you are saying?

    >>>>>>>>>

    Read the FINE PRINT…..”IF they are CLOSE to Vilma levels THEY WILL BE BETTER THAN C-MAC, COOK etc.”

    They probably won’t be but who knows. They don’t have a Dan Morgan to teach them as true frosh.

    However, the important thing is that they have instincts and abilities for making plays. This alone will make them better than what we’ve had for the past seven years. From the little I’ve seen they’re all physically more gifted than any LB we’ve had since who, WWs to be honest. Beason didn’t impress me much in college. But you could tell WW was a Boss. All these frosh have the size and speed to be bosses.

    Now will they pan out or bust, I don’t know. I never heard Shannon talk about AB the way he’s talked about Gaines, Cain, Cornelius or even the brief mention of Nelson.

    That’s why the most important word in that entire sentence is IF.

  336. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Legend, on physicality alone, these frosh will be what that 2008 LB class was supposed to be. Big, strong and fast. Travis Williams injury to me was a real setback. He could be getting valuable training and work on the scout team. Now he’s a full year behind. But oh well. It’ll come when it comes.

    The present is the real challenge.

  337. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    miamimike01
    October 13, 2010 at 12:08 AM
    Must get to 10 wins.

    Otherwise…

    >>>>>>>>

    Otherwise you do what Butch did….9-3 then a step back in 99 to 9-4.

    Sometimes I think Morgan and some of the former players forget how much they lost before it all came together.

  338. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    MM01 what ABSOLUTELY CANNOT happen is another implosion and embarrassment.

    I don’t think people mind losing nearly as much as the lethargic, heart-less play.

    But I honestly don’t think it will happen again. It’s the 2nd, maybe 3rd time this team has really been whooped, and by far the worst, because it was against FSU, at home, 8PM, and came after two good performances.

    3rd times’ the charm right??

  339. avatar
    Caneslegend says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 13, 2010 at 12:58 AM
    Legend, on physicality alone, these frosh will be what that 2008 LB class was supposed to be. Big, strong and fast. Travis Williams injury to me was a real setback. He could be getting valuable training and work on the scout team. Now he’s a full year behind. But oh well. It’ll come when it comes.

    The present is the real challenge.

    <<<<<<<<<
    you are speculating…there is no proof of player development in this program right now…players are getting better in the nfl right now…i am just thinking you are being a little unrealistic with your comments…take a few steps back and look at the program…we don't develop players, we get out coached in big games, and we make the same mistakes every game. and dona shala is more committed to graduating players then establishing the program. so far randy and staff have done nothing…facts are facts…his record is 24-19…he is 1-5 verse rank teams latlely…we have not one seven games in a row under shannon…check the stats…so all the sudden this team is going to go out and win like gangbusters….oh please bro…enough of the talk and hype with this team…we are guilty of falling into the hype…its time to come back to reality…i am not saying get down on the program but shala wants to be the ivy league of the south…that doesn't translate to winning i am sorry

  340. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Otherwise you do what Butch did….9-3 then a step back in 99 to 9-4.

    Sometimes I think Morgan and some of the former players forget how much they lost before it all came together.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    AND THE FANS HAVE COMPLETE AMNESIA THAT WE EVER LOST A GAME BEFORE 2000.

    lol

    Just look at how ridiculous we are here on this blob. Imagine if the internets had been around when Butch got crushed 66-13 by the Cuse. AND losing to VT and FSU in the same year.

    But that’s completely forgotten. The parallels are uncanny though.

  341. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Legend, you’re talking about a different thing than projecting talent growth.

    If you want to talk W-L records that’s a totally different thing. Then you’re talking about “next year we have to be a national contender or it is a bust.”

    WTF are you talking about??

    Player development??? On defense it’s decent, not great but decent. On offense, eh, a lot to be desired.

    But how many times did you watch Ed Reed as a tru sophomore and say, “Yeah, he’s going to be one of the greatest safeties of all-time.”

    You didn’t. So what exactly are you saying?

    That I’m not supposed to see the difference between younger players and current players just because Shannon hasn’t churned out enough 1st Rounders to justify that line of thought?

    That makes no sense bro, for Us, this far removed from the day to day workings of the team.

    EVERYTHING IS SPECULATION until we see something on the field.

    Were you standing over there saying Arthur Brown’s going to be a bust??

    NO you weren’t, even when Glenn Cook was basically telling us “he’s clueless and it’s going to take a long time.”

    So again, WTF are you talking about?

  342. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    we have not one seven games in a row under shannon…check the stats…so all the sudden this team is going to go out and win like gangbusters….oh please bro…enough of the talk and hype with this team…we are guilty of falling into the hype…its time to come back to reality…i am not saying get down on the program but shala wants to be the ivy league of the south…that doesn’t translate to winning i am sorry

    >>>>>>

    You’re several decades late on the Ivy of the South shyt. Shalala wants the U to be an “international” university.

    And as far as reality is concerned, we’re in Year 4 of a complete, bottom to top rebuild. Do yourself a favor and go look at Butch’s records and ask yourself what SIMILARITIES you see in this process.

    Reality is WHAT? That Shannon doesn’t have a winning percentage against winning teams? Ok. That means he hasn’t gotten over the hump yet. I’m not sure what that means UNLESS you want to tell us WHY he hasn’t.

    Otherwise you’re just talking to be talking. Butch couldn’t beat FSU or VT for FIVE YEARS. Five whole years. I wonder what that said about Butch? It said HE COULDN’T GET OVER THE HUMP.

    But I guess the same rules that applied to Butch don’t apply to Shannon. I guess he’s just THAT much better a HC, so he should’ve straightened out this entire thing by now, right?

    Isn’t that what your logic says. “Next year we have to be a national contender or it is a bust.”

    You’re saying, “Shannon’s such a good coach that I simply cannot comprehend why we’re not winning the ACC and moving on to the NC by the 5th year of his rebuild.”

    If that’s not what you think you wouldn’t be saying what you just said.

    But then you say, “Well you need to face reality. This team is such and such and so and so against winning teams.”

    SO WTF IS IT?? IF WE’RE NOT THAT GOOD THEN WHY SHOULD WE BE NC CONTENDERS NEXT YEAR OR IT IS A BUST?

    Like I said, wtf are you talking about?

  343. avatar
    BahamCane says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 13, 2010 at 1:00 AM

    miamimike01
    October 13, 2010 at 12:08 AM
    Must get to 10 wins.

    Otherwise…

    >>>>>>>>

    Otherwise you do what Butch did….9-3 then a step back in 99 to 9-4.

    Sometimes I think Morgan and some of the former players forget how much they lost before it all came together.
    ——————————————————–
    Cpt, i said before, we want the Canedom to return to glory, but forget about the maturation process and the bumbs along the way.

    I think after this season, several coaches and assistants will “leave” the program.

  344. Oh Lord went to bed and now the team is dead. I really think we are starting to beat the dead horse. We will see what they have the rest of the season. I think Randy should get some blame but the attitude of the kids just stinks and it needs to change.

    GO CANES!!!!

  345. Incredible read…

    http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/10/alumni-where-is-the-leadership-at-the-u.html

    The Alum are turning up the heat themselves. Like I’ve been saying the PROGRAM needs revamping, it MAY not be a coach issue at all, BUT the things that made the Miami Hurricanes great are being taken away and THE U is what is left. I will say again like I began saying yesterday, I want my Miami Hurricanes back, F’K THE U…

  346. avatar
    The Truth says:

    If I didn’t have little t this weekend I’d drive to Duke. I’m ready to take my frustrations out and cheer TD after TD in a big win.

    Whether we think this or think that this team still has a ton of football left to play and I’m planning on supporting them 100%.

    Saturday won’t get here fast enough…

    Nole fans redeemed themselves at least around here today…I think they’re off the high and are a little more realistic.

    One dude tells me “it just dawned on me you guys can get to ACCCG if you just win out. I don’t want to see you guys again”

    LOL

    I’m not sure if the result won’t be the same, but this team needs to find some fight…I’d love to play FSU again. I’m praying for it!

  347. Truth that would make my year..playing FSwho in the ACCCG! Win or lose just to play them again and have our boys show up.

  348. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    I can’t believe some of the garbage I’m hearing on the radio this am. Someone came on Joe Rose and actually said he’s rooting for the team to lose out so we can fire Randy.

    WTF???

    That guy and guys like him need to move up to Gainesville or Tallahassee and stop pretending to be a Canes fan.

    I’m moving forward and I’m praying the team and the coaching staff is too.

    It’s great to be a Miami Hurricane…

  349. new blog up

  350. KL the garbage I am hearing is just horrible. As much as I am disappointed in the other night…..I think some fans have gone to far….I believe some of them need a reality check.

    GO Canes!!!!!!

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