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Embrace the Positive

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The Hurricanes finished; finished off the the North Carolina Tar Heels, 33-10.

Miami (5-2, 3-1 ACC) controls their own destiny in the ACC Coastal Division. A showdown with the two Techs are looming.

Simply, Miami dominated. It was a contest for the first 15 minutes, but after the initial quarter, the ‘Canes took control of the game, their destiny, and the faithful crowd.

It would have been easy to fold the green and orange tents after that 76-yard scamper by Johnny White, giving UNC an early 10-3 lead, with ‘Canes fans around the country asking if this team had heart, desire, and pride.

Not again. Not another big game no-show. We were shaking our heads, asking questions.

Meanwhile, on the sidelines, Vaughn Telemaque fumed. He refused defeat, he refused to lose, he refused to play without intensity and emotion. Pumping up his teammates and the crowd, the defense took over. The UM defense held UNC scoreless the rest of the game and forced an efficient and experienced TJ Yates into multiple mistakes, picking off two passes, doubling his season total, and accumulating five sacks.

Jacory Harris was 21-of-32 for 217 yards, throwing three TDs and a pick.

Damien Berry rushed 19 times for 109 yards and a score. He ran with authority, purpose, and reckless abandon. Lamar Miller had 11 rushes for 69 yards, efficiently moving the chains and close to several game-breaking plays. Mike James got 11 touches and turned it into 54 yards, also running with emotion and purpose.

Travis Benjamin hauled in four passes for 67 yards and a highlight-reel score. Leonard Hankerson and LaRon Byrd also had four catches, each breaking the plane once.

DE Allen Bailey had 3.5 sacks, Micanor Regis had one, and Ramon Buchanan and Brandon Harris each recorded a pick. MLB Colin McCarthy led the team in tackles with seven.

The Positives

For those lucky enough to witness this beat down in person, they witnessed an emotional, spirited effort on both sides of the ball, with the defense taking yardage gains personally and the offense not taking no for an answer.

Emotion. Fire. Desire. Communication. Execution. Will.

The ‘Canes took criticism for showing no life or emotion all week long. Randy Shannon and Mark Whipple showed they are human after all, congratulating the players on positive plays and effort.

Emotion, jumping up and down on the sidelines, high-fiving each other after good plays, slapping one another on the helmet.

Fire, refusing to lose. A leader stepping up and being vocal. Not laying down and fighting back after being behind. Our guys were having fun out there.

Desire, Berry and Miller running. The effort of Aldarius Johnson on the called back TD throw. The constant rush of the front four, never giving up on a play. Offensive lineman finishing blocks. Wide receivers coming back to the ball, finishing routes and helping out their QB, making plays and breaking tackles. Jacory leading his pass catchers, settling down and not making mistakes. Bailey fighting out of double-teams, elevating his NFL Draft stock.

Communication on the sidelines. Bailey talking to his teammates, showing his coaches how the UNC offense was scheming him. Telemaque taking control and voicing his displeasure about a long run for a Tar Heels touchdown. The secondary disguising coverages, giving Yates different looks, confusing and putting pressure on him in the pocket.

Execution, 6-of-15 on 3rd Down (40%) and 3-of-3 on 4th down, continuing drives. Limiting turnovers. Scoring in the Red-Zone 5-of-5 times. Kicking four kickoffs for touchbacks. Whipple and  John Lovett making excellent, in-game adjustments.

Will. The sidelines and players were alive. Something we, as fans and supporters, haven’t seen and criticized our guys for. We saw that last night, with a remainder. They reminded us of the glory days.

And damnit, it felt good.

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  1. first!!??? GO CANES!

  2. haha! Nice First, Uchamps!

    Go Canes!

    Damn, that felt good last night!

  3. It felt so good! I could have shed a tear when I saw those boys get fired up!

    Thank GOD for Telemaque FINALLY getting in some grills and holding coaches/teammates accountable.

    J12 getting fired up and getting in the big guys face at the end! Talking to his guys on the sideline instead of sitting off by himself.

    Spence and B.Harris dancing up the sideline! Straight Ol’ Skool Canes!

    I predicted Asante Cleveland to be a first round draft pick for UM when he was recruited. Everyone else saw a bust two-star.

    I saw a 6’5 245 lb freak.

  4. OH, never saw that article MMO1.

    Well, i’m glad you guys appreciate Shannons ability to evaluate talent and not base everything off of the star system!

    What was the play of the game for you MM01?

  5. It was a highlight, no doubt.

    Total team effort. There were plenty of highlights, of course. Byrd made a nice grab. Several 3rd and 4th down runs, the Cleveland catch, Benji making his catch.

    The B. Harris pick, the defensive effort in the Red Zone.

    I liked what I saw last night, save a couple of plays. But that’s any game.

  6. Last night’s game FELT GREAT no matter how you slice it, and this D is playing lights generally. Welcome to the game #57 and our running game is looking niiiicccceee.

    However I have to comment on a couple things I read on here this morning and being at the game have an opinion on:

    Listen to Truth about being at the game and what you see that on TV you don’t – he is right – Despite debate on whether the guy came back etc. that turnover was a case of someone locking into his receiver as well. (and he had a guy wide open in the flat for those of watching at home on TV). There were still some bad throws, bad reads (or not seeing a guy is open) and cases where an audible could have been magic as well. That O was not a surgeon last night but rather just a general MD if you get the analogy.

    Someone on the last blog commented that a caller was complaining about #44, well the caller was right. Always caught in the wash everytime I noticed him.

    I would like to see some fresh faces on return

  7. The B. Harris pick was sick and much needed. What about DVD turning around to find the ball on the early deepball to Highsmith?

    When TB3 snagged that deep duck out of the air of the CB’s back???/ whooooooooooooooooooooooooo it looked toooo sweet!

  8. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I’ve been around you guys for a loooooooong time and you know that when I come to a conclusion I NEVER just it out of my a*s.

    Doc – yes, he threw to guys in single coverage but I have two points to that.

    1. That’s what UNC does on D – they man up single coverage. Everyone was single covered most of the night.

    2. There were MUCH better options onmany of his throws. If the DB he was throwing on wasn’t pissing in his pants half those “great” plays
    would have been either incomplete or picked.

    The QB didn’t start playing well until the freshmen CB’s had to play.

    Cav

    You get on a horse and beat it no matter what so I’m going to try to convince you of anything. Miami tried to establish the run in every other game they played in this year. In THIS game they stuck with it because they COULD. Not because Whipple just learned how to call an offense.

    I didn’t say anything about that first terrible ball to TB that shouldve been a TD because the wind definitely got it. That first pic was a HORRIBLE decision. It wouldn’t have mattered what shoulder he threw it to, the ball was being picked. There was a better option on the play and Harris has to recognize that when you running a play for the second or third time (that was the same play he completed to 85 on the first play) your first option is more than likely not your first option anymore.

    And he threw it anyway. I’m upset he was benched right then and there – at least for a series.

    He looked good in the second half. But what a coincidence that UNC had no choice but to go with Frosh corners.

    The OL was dominating tonight and that was refreshing to see but miami’s passing game is still scary as hell with our QB throwing off his back foot to his first option no matter what.

    On top of all that ST’s is a disaster.

    I’m happy Miami won but I’m really upset with Shannon and his decision to keep Jacory in the game after that pic. UNC having, at one point, 3 frosh DB’s in the game made that decision to keep him in to be brilliant.

    It wasn’t and that’s ALL I’m saying.

    Oh, and I’m also saying that all of your points about whips offensive playcalling are silly – but I’m only half serious about that LOL
    Just kidding – don’t get crazy.

  9. I definitely agree, shwarma. Being up high, you get to see the real X’s and O’s.

    Truth is a brilliant football mind. His opinion should be respected.

    I want to enjoy this win, ‘cuz we ain’t won like this in almost a year.

  10. avatar
    The Truth says:

    The D was amazing…no doubt.

  11. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I was saying last night that couldn’t imagine how scary good this D would be with a good MLB

    This has two major liabilities on both sides of the ball with it’s two most important players.

  12. Can’t wait for Rusty or Caneinsider highlights… Still upset neither made a highlight for the Duke game though… Would have been nice to see Hankerson put the shoulder down on that Duke Db again!

    Rusty said if the Canes won he would have his UNC higghlight reel up this morn!

  13. avatar
    The Truth says:

    This TEAM has…

  14. I was a tad upset at Laron for slowing down and missing that deep ball that was in stride and perfectly thrown!

  15. Best thing from last night was that the MIAMI HURRICANES showed up, NOT The U! I LOVE IT!

  16. Would have liked to see more Cain last night.. Cmac gets on my nerves! He gets lost in the sauce something serious!

  17. haha!

    I hoped you liked my article title.

    And I hope you’re not mad at me, bg… 😉

  18. UChamps.

    I talked to Josh (CaneInsider) and he’ll have highlights from Duke soon along with UNC highlights. He and Rusty are in an arms race for getting up highlights. COMPETITION has made them both bring their A games. Rusty may get his up faster but I’m enjoying CaneInsider’s highlights more.

  19. MM01.

    MAD…ME…I’m ESTATIC! Ha! Had a GREAT NIGHT’S sleep. I’m REINSPIRED! I know UNC was depleted but I don’t care. This team NEEDED something good to happen for them and it did. I saw CONFIDENCE and fire returing. We needed this so bad. Its only a first step but a VERY important first step indeed!

  20. I know, just giving U a hard time.

    Looking forward to the show this evening.

    Guys, I gotta nap. Missed some zzz’s writing. And Jax and KC is the first game here, so… it’ll be an extended nap!!

    Second game is even worse… Zona and Seattle. Are u kidding me? Going to be watching NFL Red Zone all day.

    I’ll check in later.

    Damn, that felt good last night. ‘Bout time…

  21. Ahhhh good look on the info BG. I like your emphasis on “competition” as well!! lol

  22. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    I said the same thing to my wife about the Byrd drop. Dude has gotta run through the play the whole way. That pass wasn’t really overthrown.
    There isn’t a person on here who doesn’t respect Truth’s insight to this team, and many of the things he said during the offseason are still ringing true.
    (Tackling, Oline, Dropped passes, ect.)
    But the main reason I don’t give a damn about playing freshmen, or backups, or whoever, is because we did (for the most part) what you’re SUPPOSED to do against inferior comp’, and handled them. A lot of people thought we’d lose, or win by a FG, and we won by 3 TDs+. Had we won by 3 vs the replacement crew, then I probably would be a little more downtrodden, but me KL, CCC, Cap and I think Bahama called for this spank, and that’s what I expect to do to vs inferior comp’. Doesn’t always happen…….Duke…….but I expect it, nonetheless.

  23. I mean to put it blountly, this team was at a crossroads. They were are a point where THEY had to decide to succomb to the negativity or RISE UP and accept the responsibility of being MIAMI HURRICANES TRUE MIAMI HURRICANES, NOT This U crap. They did that and how can you not be happy about that. They built up some good will last night. NOW they just have to sustain it. How can ANYONE that LOVES this team not see that and NOT be happy about that.

    I am and I’m SO GLAD I was wrong. I was very deflated and very down on this team. BUT they did what I didn’t think they would do, they PICKED THEMSELVES up by the britches. They LISTENED to the CONSTRUCTIVE criticism and they TOOK RESPONSBILITY for themselves and their teammates.

    I LOVED what I saw last night and see it as the FIRST brick. NOW they can truly begin to build and reclaim this seaon that was NOT going the way ANY of us ESPECIALLY those guys wanted. Now we REALLY have a chance to realize our goals. We have 5 more games guys. 3 games we should ABSOLUTELY be favorites in (UVA, MD, USF). We’ll PROBABLY also be favored against GTech but that will be tuff because that’s a tuff system and its in Atlanta. BUT from what I’ve seen from GTech this year, we can absolutely beat them. Key against them is getting a lead and making them play from behind. They do not pass well and are NOT very good on defense. The BIG game is VTech who has also found their stride. They are REALLY good and only lost to JMU because of the emotional and physical toll playing Boise put on them. That will be a HELL of a game and I anticipate it will be for all the MARBLES. Win that game and I just might try and make it to effin Charlotte! WORD!

  24. UChamps.

    Competition makes EVERYONE better…even the highlight guys! Ha!

  25. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, I said it last night and I’ll say it again. IF UNC’S O had our talent he’d be walking all over CFB.

    WHIPPLE HAS NEVER CALLED A RUN PLAY AS WELL SCHEMED AS THE ONE WHITE SCORED ON.

    Never.

    UNC’s first two drives were clinics in playcalling. Things Whipple has done here and there but rarely on two consecutive series.

    And if Dave Hyde even noticed the difference in the playcalling, along with Lamarm Thomas, Darren Smith and most of the calls into WQAM last night I GUESS I’M BEATING THIS HORSE INTO THE GROUND.

    Just like I’ve been beating the C-Mac horse into the ground SINCE OSU.

    Now suddenly everyone sees it, five games later.

    But why are you still talking about a bad pass in the 1stQ of last night’s game?? Talk about beating a dead horse.

    NO ONE said J12 for the Heisman. No one said last night’s team is getting close to 2001.

    NO ONE EVEN IMPLIED any excitement about execution or anything like that. We’re all excited to see the team play with some passion.

    And like I said after FSU SHANNON HAS TO LET DOWN HIS WALL and last night he did.

    He showed more passion, both approval and anger, than he has since 2007.

    I said it was one of the keys after FSU but you said that wasn’t it at all….

    Just saying….

  26. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, what I don’t understand is why you’re so angry with a true junior who is struggling with the underneath balls and NOT staring down his WRs??? CHAD HENNE is still doing those things, so why are you continuing to diss a true junior who’s still learning the ropes? WHY NOT ASK WHY HIS OC CAN’T FIGURE OUT HOW TO TEACH HIM BETTER??

    Funny how that thought never crosses your mind…..

    Last night we saw the effect that a dominant DL-DB corps has on the most efficient passer in the league. What happened to Yates is what J12 has been feeling and doing for the last 10 games. Yates became hesitant, started staring down his primary receiver, suddenly he couldn’t see defenders, suddenly he threw balls right into defender’s hands, suddenly his WRs were covered and he threw it to them anyway.

    SOUND FAMILIAR?????????????

  27. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, I forgot, the solution with J12 is to bench him….okay. I can see the logic but I can also see the logic of staying with him, esp. when two of the best plays of th night came from J12…

    1st…the audible that broke Miller on the longest run of the night for us.

    2nd…The TD pass to Hank where J12 actually looke off the safeties to the opposite side of the field then pivoted back to the right and lofted it to Hankerson.

  28. Great Game last night I had a blast…..sat in front of many Randy haters and really had to keep my cool but I did not mind turning around saying,”Hey guys I guess this win is Randy’s fault right?”. —cricketts

    I looked for the crew at W-20 and came up empty. where was everyone?

    I really like the fact the some many people are eating crow. Just win out VT is going to be tough. If THE PLAYERS stay focus and have that fire (love the huddle and gathering of the team before the 4th qtr)….they could win out!

    GO CANES!!!!!!!!!!!!

  29. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Can someone explain to me why PAT HILL was spread out wide on the J12 under center with no RB play that went to TB for a 1st??

    Pat Hill????

  30. avatar
    The Truth says:

    You have it all figured out 😉

  31. Among all this, I really love the irony of the long Johnny White run..

    TJ Yates FLIES upfield and wiffs on a block on Allen Bailey — BIG f*cking mistake.

    Allen Bailey wrecked his ass for the rest of the night.

    Jacory looked better, freshman corners or not. He found short and mid range routes, and was damn close on several of the deep balls. That interception was a good reaction by the defender.. If Jacory had an arm like Vinny he could’ve shot that ball in there faster but obviously he isn’t known for his arm strength. Our run game is what I thought it would be when they came out fired up and ready to play. We’re physically imposing up front, and there’s no excuse for some of the performances they’ve put up.

    Sound game — and people can say what they want about Colin.. He LED the team in tackles this game. He’s sharpening up as he goes it seems, still a far cry away from where we need to be.

    Love our defensive line though. Never giving up, Allen Bailey downfield chasing runningbacks, Andrew Smith side by side with Draughn on a run play downfield.

    Won’t say I’d be confident if we WERE to run the rest of the table and maybe end up in a rematch with FSU.. But it’d be nice to at least get there.

  32. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    I’m waiting for Canez1 to post. haha

  33. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 9:41 AM
    You have it all figured out

    >>>>>>>>

    No I don’t. We’re still a long ways away being really good and sharp. A lot of it is execution but playcalling will make it all easier. 😉

  34. And a play OFTEN overlooked after reading several message boards..

    ..What could have very well set this thing into motion —

    Our 2 star recruit? The MASSIVELY undersized linebacker recruit in TYRONE CORNELIUS? ROCKING DA’NORRIS SEARCY ON KICKOFF??

    Took him out of the GAME??

  35. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    3 teams that are ranked in the bottom 3rd of the BCS loss, #19 Texas, #20 West Virginia, and #22 Kansas St. they are probably out of the top 25.

    With the Canes just missing the initial BCS top 25 last week, they should be ranked this week 21-24th and probably 19-23 in the AP and coaches poll.

    With the next 2 games being against teams that are not very good, the Canes should be on a 4 game winning streak going into that GT game.

    One game at a time!

    ACCCG or bust!

    Go Canes!

  36. Sorry Bennie but Tyrone was a 4 star recruit homie. Ha!

  37. Then he was bumped to a 3 star recruit late in the process

  38. avatar
    The Truth says:

    So cav…seriously…you’re trying very hard to highten your football IQ…and you seem to take to heart the opinion of the player…so when berry says it’s on them and then you see an OL play as well as they have all year you really think it’s because the 50 yr old with a playsheet called a different order?

  39. In any case, after that shot.. the defense got HOT.

    I will say I wish we had a linebacking core like UNC. I love some Sean Spence but Bruce Carter, Quan Sturdivant and those guys — HUGE..and FAST. Very smart.

    Lamar Miller is a welcome change of pace too. Missed him the last two games.

  40. And I’m not angry cav..I just think he sucks.

    I’m angry at the HC that won’t bench him.

    You’re ignoring the fact that UNC had 3 CB’s that played like they’re were crapping their pants.

    But you can keep think it’s whip…no problem. When Jacory struggles again you’ll just say it was whipple anyway…

  41. Truth.

    Its both. But I can tell you for CERTAIN that not everyone at UM is on the Whip bandwagon. I’ll hit you up about it later.

  42. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Benni V yeah C-Mac played better but he’s a borderline liability. UNC took advantage of him several times but RR, VT and the DL made up for it. VT, GT and FSU are going to zero in on him mercilessly. And they’ll have OL’s that can neutralize our DL at this point. MD and UVA will try it too, simply because there isn’t much else to try. They’ll run right up the gut and run play-action until we stop it. Bringing RR closer to the LOS is a gamble. It worked for the most part last night but it’s dangerous.
    That’s why I want to see Cain get as much work as possible in the next games.

    But yeah it feels like the dots are connecting….

  43. Bg

    I know…but I’m strong in my conviction and I’ll put my foosball IQ up with anyone. I know what I’m talking about.

    It ain’t whip and the QB ain’t good.

  44. Jacory will play as well as he feels he needs to..

    You watch old tape on him from ’08 when Marve was on the team and there was stiff competition at quarterback, and look at how differently he played. Tonight (albeit against doodoo corners) was reminiscent of that.

    He didn’t make HORRIBLE decisions — when he did just hurl the ball it was to a vacant place on the field..

    He’ll play as good as he thinks he needs to. I’m glad the boo birds were out in full force last night. The defense got embarassed and Vaughn cussed the offense out. I loved the look on Whipples face when he was getting reamed by our defensive leader.

  45. Truth.

    I believe Whip and J12 have issues. Its a combination not 1 or the other. That’s my opinion. Been the same since tOSU

  46. And I got news for you – for the long run, Shannon saved his Job last night.

    But he’s going to do something about ST’s situation…

  47. Yea..Colin sorta’ looks lost when he’s being attacked. It also didn’t help when FSU’s offensive line was bumrushing his ass and he couldn’t get off blocks. Guard or Tackle vs Linebacker..generally not fair — unless you’re one of Bama’s massive fucking linebackers that can knock a o-lineman on their ass.

    I see Maryland possibly giving us fits, but us winning. They have a dual threat QB which as always an issue for us.

    Virginia Tech is going to be a problem. They are the epitome of what our team can’t seem to handle. A TALENTED dual threat quarterback, a STABLE of beasts at runningback, and just enough passing game to get them by when our safeties and linebackers suck up to the line of scrimmage.

    I don’t see Georgia Tech pulling any magic out of the hat after the performance they had against a Clemson defense that is similar to ours in the way they attack the ball.

  48. Truth.

    I know. Things would’ve gotten REALLY nasty if he had lost.

  49. No…you don’t understand…it wouldve come down to Shalala making a decision…

  50. Truth.

    I gotcha. Word! Glad we dodged that bullet then.

  51. Like I was saying last night was far from perfect. JaMarky Whippis has been having issues all season long. The thing that I was most encouraged about was that the offense finally showed some signs of life. In this game the PLAYERS seemed to execute better and had more enthusiasm.

  52. Bg

    You know if Miami runs the same exact set of plays and jacory makes the same throws against Their DB’s it’s going to be a loooooooong game.

    Whip is not doing anything to undermine his coach. His coaxh isn’t helping him…

  53. The players came to play and THAT was the difference.

    That and 3 frosh DB’s for the opposition.

  54. Wow well I think last night was great, hopefully we win out….I still choose to be positive because i saw lots of good signs. Go Canes!

  55. I saw lots of good things too cc but I’m ticked at the big boss man for not brnching his starter after that stupid pic.

    And I’m even more jaded because the outcome makes it look as if that was justified. It wasn’t.

    The kid needed a series on the bench. He played the second half throwing against kids that had no chance of making plays.

  56. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, lol, I AM NOT IGNORING THE CB’S INEXPERIENCE. I said it last night on the blog that those passes won’t work against VT. They may not work so easily against UVA cause they have veteran CBs.

    But my point is two-fold.

    1) J12 must throw tighter, sharper balls and make better decisions like dumping it to the underneath receivers, which he did somewhat last night.

    2) Whipple has to stop calling plays that put ALL THE PRESSURE ON J12 to make perfect laser throws and that telegraph the play to the defense.

    It works both ways.

    Last night we saw a combination of both of the above. After the usual shaky start, both passing and playcalling, Whipple committed completely to the power running game. This opened up play-action, NO SHOTGUN, which froze the defense for that split second WRs need to get open. J12 made some nice throws and got into a groove, wasn’t worried about pressure, got his mind into the game and stopped THINKING and aiming his throws.

    Suddenly the OL gets into a groove. They’re blowing people off the ball. Suddenly pass protection gets easier because the DL is tired AND they don’t know what’s coming.

    Then J12 started making his reads. He even started looking off the safety. Whipple, in turn, settled down and used the running game to actually set up the passing game instead of it being ALL OR NONE, run or pass, as he’s done all year long.

    Truth, here’s the question:

    Yates looked great against UVA and in the 1st half against us.

    WHY??

    Cause his OC called plays that used our speed against Us, opened up passing routes and MADE IT EASY for Yates to complete the balls. He did the same thing against UVA.

    What happened in the 2nd half?? Our DL stopped the run, got much more pressure on him and suddenly their OC ran out of plays to call. And when he did call them our defense knew what was coming.

    So all of a sudden Yates starts forcing the ball, staring down his WRs AND THROWING INTS. Something he hasn’t done in the last 198 attempts. He also gets sacked both coverage and pressure.

    ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL ME THAT YATES SUDDENLY REVERTED BACK TO THE OLD YIKES???

    Hell no he didn’t. His OC ran out of plays because they’re not a very talented team on offense. They’ve won those games ON SCHEMES. Not talent OR EVEN STELLAR EXECUTION. TACTICS.

    That’s why their OC was telling those commentators, “Sometimes your biggest strength can be your biggest weakness.” And he was dead right, UNTIL LOVETT ADJUSTED and Shannon got in their grills.

    Meanwhile, the same thing that happened to Yates has happened to J12 against Pitt and Clemson and FSU. He lost confidence in his OL, started staring down WRs, the defense stopped a couple of running plays and suddenly Whipple just goes shotgun crazy and the defense can see what’s coming and they stop it. J12 gets sacked a couple of times in the shotgun and loses even more confidence. Whipple runs out of plays to call and just calls long balls with underneath routes but because J12 has no confidence in his OL, he’s just slinging it, staring down his primary and throwing off his back foot.

    Funny how the commitment to and success of the running game opens up ALL that. But it only works if you don’t bail on it and GO TO THE SHOTGUN the second a running play doesn’t work….which is what Whipple’s been doing until last night.

    And that 2001 team we all know and love so much, WHAT WAS THE STAPLE OF THAT OFFENSE????

    1) Running Game

    2) Play-action

    How many times did anyone see Dorsey in the shotgun???

  57. Oh sorry Truth I am not sure I agree with that totally but I like the way Jacory responded and the team as a whole so I am not going to be a negative nancy.

    Only positive thoughts from me unless they lay down. I was very happy with what I saw last night.

    Go Canes!!!!!

  58. Three frosh CBs or not, it just seemed like our players were playing with life last night. Seen it all season from the defense, but in most game the offense has seemed lifeless.

  59. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    IMO Shannon will always be in the dog house with 50% of most UM fans….case in point in just checking in at the sentinel/herald, ppl talking bout UM beating a depleted team…the same team that many thought they’d lose to…and not only did they beat em they dominated them totally in the 2nd half…and not only that, the only td the gave up was a 70 yd run early in the game…honestly did ANY1 think the team would respond after the fg, pick, long td run??? But U gotta give the boys credit for 30 unanswered pts…and even the qb that everyone used to love but now sucks responded in a positive way…bg u mad a point last nite on one of his throws to aj and how it had zip on it and he looked confident throwing it….and how bout the pass laron missed judge was on the $$$$$…Shannon was in a no win situation…if he loses to butch again he needs to be fired on the spot, but he beat him FINALLY, and ppl see unc was a depleted team…the same team that should have beat a heavely talented lsu team early in the year…Hey Truth I repect your opinions as much as anyones BUT if the qb is limited on what he can see and do isn’t it the oc/qb coach to coach/fix the problem or figure out what he does good and stick with it??? Funny thing U say the mlb/qb are the only positions really holding this team back but U never call for the mlb to be bench. Why??? B/c he is the best we have….and it’s the same with the qb….IMO j12 is struggling with confidence at the moment but his wrs making plays for him last night can go a long way in helping him in that area…

  60. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM
    I saw lots of good things too cc but I’m ticked at the big boss man for not brnching his starter after that stupid pic.

    And I’m even more jaded because the outcome makes it look as if that was justified. It wasn’t.

    The kid needed a series on the bench. He played the second half throwing against kids that had no chance of making plays.

    >>>>>>>>>

    Truth, you think benching is the ONLY solution??? I guess so.

    But if those 3 CBs were so pathetic how did UNC win 4 straight games, one blowout where they had 3 or 4 INTs and a pic Six?

    They also beat Clemson and held them to 19.

    So which is it?????

  61. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    T – we get your point, but, seriously with all due respect, just chill. I know what you’re saying: that J12 can get away with some things against some teams and against teams like VT, with better DB/athletes he may not get away with those things. We all understand that. I just choose to hope/believe that we’ve got some games to get that straigthened out before we play the likes of VT. It’s a half-full thing…and whether he should have been benched for a series, yes, I was thinking the same thing when I was at the game last night, and then I just let it go. It turned out ok, didn’t it.

    J12 is who he is. Does he need to get much better for the Canes to win the ACCCG? Yes. Can he do it? We’ll see. Whip’s play-calling is much improved, but I still saw too much passing when we should have run more, imho

  62. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    The Truth says:
    October 24, 2010 at 10:36 AM

    I saw lots of good things too cc but I’m ticked at the big boss man for not brnching his starter after that stupid pic.
    ——————————————————————–
    Truth, seems like your always ticked!

    If they have the perfect game, you will probably still find something to nit pick!

  63. Man, you cannot deny the difference last night in whipple play calling had to do with better formations. He still got jacory lined up under center with an empty backfield, but for the 1st time since whipple has been here, we were more consistent with our offensive formations. I always knew from the beginning of the year that this was a run 1st offense, whipple always gave up on the run if on 1st down we only got 1 yard, so he would immediately go to passing formations, that’s not good oc’ing no matter how you slice it. No matter how many wide receivers you keep counting that are open, it’s not about whether j12 is good rnuff or not, it’s about running high percentage plays, and percentages go up higher when a defense have to respect the threat of another possible run.

    whipple has been putting to much on jacory’s shoulder’s since last year, against unc last year we should’ve run the ball more. You keep saying the offensive line executed, that’s a joke, this offensie line if nothing else have been able to run block all year long and damien berry is going to get 3 yards damyum near by himself. The problem with the running early on was the formations that whipple was running those plays out of.

    Case in point, damien berry since he’s been in the backfield, he’s better suited and almost always gain more yards when the fullback is offset
    He doesn’t particularly need a fullback lead, more so because of his own style of running. To many times this year and last whipple would not use that formation, than with miller, finally the light bulb switched on last night, that we need to use miller to get to the edge, mikes james is that smash mouth guy, but he also has a lil more shake & bake than people think.

    Had we run this same offense against ohigho fake, especially when we were about to go up 14 to 3, when would won that game just like we did last night. Had we forced osu to be a passing team. We stayed with the run last night, in the right formations, but even still, you could see the difference it made with the plays. I’m going to cut chase ford a lil slack, because to many times he’s been asked to get open in obvious passing situations, shannon doesn’t normally make false comparisons, so when he said chase ford reminded him of shockey, if they use chase like they used shockey, we’ll start to see him be productive as well, although it’s obvious asante cleveland is the real deal as well, but the plays to asante were better schemed than the plays to chase ford where he’s expected to get open in obvious passing formations.

    You know this, the threat of the run opens the passing lanes for the backs and tight-ends, whipple doesn’t seem to stay with that. This game reminded me of the way the oklahoma game was called, just a lil better for the most part. Look at the percentages pf plays executed with an empty backfield and the plays executed with the backs, it’s night and day.

    Last night, unc was kept off balance for the most part and this game could have easily been 44 to nothing. We don’t need jacory to be a gunslinger, we need what shannon has been preaching about the qb position since he’s been here, the qb needs to just manage the game, and the play calling more importantly the formations allowed j12 to be just that.

  64. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Funny thing U say the mlb/qb are the only positions really holding this team back but U never call for the mlb to be bench. Why??? B/c he is the best we have….and it’s the same with the qb….IMO j12 is struggling with confidence at the moment but his wrs making plays for him last night can go a long way in helping him in that area…

    >>>>>>>>

    There it is. And Kelvin Cain demonstrated he’s already more talented than C-Mac, just not as well equipped I suppose to get the team set.

    But more importantly, UNLIKE C-MAC, who has NEVER had a good game at MLB, J12 has played brilliantly at times and shown he has the goods.

    But a lot of people have amnesia on those subjects. J12 sucks and doesn’t have it, never did I guess.

    Meanwhile WHAT IS WHIPPLE’S CLAIM TO FAME????

    haha

  65. By the way, who’s to say those same throws won’t work against better cb’s, it’s not like we got garbage wide-outs, as long as our receivers continue to attack the ball, and jacory, that throw to leonard hankerson in one on one coverage, when it the last time besides travis benjamin have we seen that, one of our receivers isolated. You getting to caught up in the receiver that is open that jacory misses, hell all qb’s miss wide open guys on a regular basis each game. You keep forgetting, jacory’s decision making hasn’t improved because of the offensive play calls whipple keeps running.

    whipple is under the impression you gets alot of points by passing the ball all game long, you get points out of the passing game, but this is not to say the commentators know it all, but commentators will give an oc credit when he’s out scheming a defense. Like that play call last year against oklahoma to aldarius. whipple hasn’t built momentum off of his own play-calling but yet you keep expecting jacory to be a better player. Your football i.q. is high enuff to know and go watch the film of the plays executed from the better running formations, and if we’re going to clear out the backfield than that flare out pass needs to be used more often.

    The running game sets the tome for this offense, not that obvious pass happy crap.
    The bottom line, better formations, better execution, it’s that simple.

  66. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Nash, the haters are PATHETIC. When Shannon wins a NC they’ll say, “Well, that team’s not as good as the 2001 team.”

    Cal, I was thinking about the OSU game too, how much that game would’ve changed with better playcalling and execution from the offense. I honestly don’t know if the OL was as solid in run-blocking as they are now but stil, THE THREAT of the run, esp. with Miller, would’ve opened up a lot of passing lanes.

    Quietly, I think the reason Shannon didn’t bench J12 was to FORCE Whipple to run the ball more. Obviously, the main reasons were to keep J12 confidence together and because the #2 is not ready for prime time but I think the 3rd reason, very subtle reason was because he knows we have to run the football to set up the pass.

    And I think that’s been an ongoing point between them. Whipple clearly wants to pass. I don’t know what else you call having no RB with the QB under center and going to the shotgun continually but WANTING TO PASS.

    Shannon, being the DC, KNOWS THE HARDEST THING TO STOP IS A PASSING GAME BUILT ON THE RUNNING GAME.

    That’s why all the great Canes teams could run the ball. Even Erickson’s first few years we still an the ball well.

  67. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Randy Shannon and the staff
    J12 , Allen Bailey, Byrd, Johnson and Benjamin,
    The O-line
    linebackers
    defensive backs
    running backs
    D-line
    Special Teams

    All of them answered many of the questions we had all week, though not perfect, J12’s pick, Bosher missing extra point, a 76 yard run for a TD,
    and some other mistakes.

    Show me one team in any game this year on any level that has played a perfect game, hasn’t missed on any tackles, one QB who hasn’t thrown a pick, DB’s who haven’t dropped ints, or any team without mistakes, show me one.

    Some want to talk about the freshman playing for Carolina, while forgetting to mention the freshman playing for the Hurricanes, Henderson, Cleveland, Miller (rs) and others.

    UNC was a very good team. You have to have something to overcome the turmoil they have had and win four straight and come within a dropped pass of beating LSU.

    Yates was having the season of a lifetime but it came crashing to earth in SunLife and against the Canes.

    Give this team some credit and the coaching staff too. Miami has flaws and issues, just like 119 others in D-1 College football, including Texas, OU, Auburn, LSU, Bama, Oregon, Nebraska…. to name a few.( goes without saying… Florida. LOL)

    Celebrate, Celebrate, Dance to the music…………………

    Phillycane sorry about your teams loss in the NLCS. However we have two former Hurricanes going to the World Series….

  68. Truth.

    I understand BUT if he had of benched him, I think that MAY have done more damage to the confidence of the team. I think he LET them handle it and they did. The fire from guys like Telemaque on the sideline was PRICELESS. That was so needed. Telemaque and the TEAM handled that situation and we were a 100% different team from that moment on.

  69. The Truth says:
    October 24, 2010 at 10:27 AM
    Bg

    You know if Miami runs the same exact set of plays and jacory makes the same throws against Their DB’s it’s going to be a loooooooong game.

    Whip is not doing anything to undermine his coach. His coaxh isn’t helping him…

    Yes VERY true. We’ll have to play a complete and as close to error free game as we can. VTech will NOT beat themselves and Bud Foster is going to do what Bud Foster does. I respect the HELL out VTech. Tyrod is hitting a groove too and those 2 RBs are STUDS. So we’ll have our work cut out. Hopefully we can build on this game and keep getting better.

  70. Nashvillecane says:
    October 24, 2010 at 10:47 AM
    IMO Shannon will always be in the dog house with 50% of most UM fans….case in point in just checking in at the sentinel/herald, ppl talking bout UM beating a depleted team…the same team that many thought they’d lose to…and not only did they beat em they dominated them totally in the 2nd half…and not only that, the only td the gave up was a 70 yd run early in the game…honestly did ANY1 think the team would respond after the fg, pick, long td run??? But U gotta give the boys credit for 30 unanswered pts…and even the qb that everyone used to love but now sucks responded in a positive way…bg u mad a point last nite on one of his throws to aj and how it had zip on it and he looked confident throwing it….and how bout the pass laron missed judge was on the $$$$$…Shannon was in a no win situation…if he loses to butch again he needs to be fired on the spot, but he beat him FINALLY, and ppl see unc was a depleted team…the same team that should have beat a heavely talented lsu team early in the year…Hey Truth I repect your opinions as much as anyones BUT if the qb is limited on what he can see and do isn’t it the oc/qb coach to coach/fix the problem or figure out what he does good and stick with it??? Funny thing U say the mlb/qb are the only positions really holding this team back but U never call for the mlb to be bench. Why??? B/c he is the best we have….and it’s the same with the qb….IMO j12 is struggling with confidence at the moment but his wrs making plays for him last night can go a long way in helping him in that area…

    ^^^Great Points^^^

  71. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Thank you, Randy!

  72. Truth.

    You are right about a lot bro, but don’t let Whip off the hook so easy. Some is him too. I said the same thing after Pittsburgh that we CAN’T make those kinds of mistakes and beat Clemson. We DID make those mistakes and STILL won in THEIR house on Homecoming. Not saying Clemson and VTech are the same because CLEARLY they are NOT, BUT VTech has issues too and WE CAN BEAT them, we just can’t make mistakes. I get it, but in NO WAY will I let ANYONE taint this win. I don’t care WHO was out there, they won and did it the right way. Remember, I picked us to LOSE last week. Like I said last night, I’m SO happy I was wrong and I don’t care if it was a Middle School kid out there, we played with energy, excitement, and beat a team we were SUPPOSED to be the way we were SUPPOSED to beat them.

    No anger here!

  73. Whenever you make the feet of linebackers come up and than go back, ADVANTAGE: offense

    In those obvious passing formations, the linebackers stay at the level they’re and just sit in the pocket and wait, meanwhile the d-line is teeing off on our o-line, j12 is back their getting restless, and than BAM, he may make a bad read or 2. Here’s something for you, when tom brady was at michigan running that true pro-set, that didn’t necessarily fit what was best for him, therefore he went low in the draft, but he comes to new england, they realize this guy makes good reads, so let’s keep him in the shotgun, because having brady under center limits him, so brady executes plays at a higher percentage in the gun, but in a true pro-set, he’s average.

    The same thing with jacory, he’s basically trying to run a new patriots type of offense, and that offense that new englands run, is garbage in my opinion, but it’s effective because of the players in that system, before wes walker, they had deion branch and troy, those lil quick receivers like that who kill your linebackers all game.

    To me that’s the type of offense that whipple tries to run and it’s not suited for j12, the one we saw last night where he stuck with the run for the most part, that’s the one that needs to be here more often. Forget shalala and whether randy saved his job, it was the running game that did that, and the passing plays for the running formations. whipple got consistent, the offense finally got into a rythm and for the 1st time all year based on the tempo of the game and they stoped trying to speed the tempo of the game/offense up, that only made jacory become even that much more careless with the ball.

    You can’t tell me jacory comes up with a real good throw and than all of a sudden a real bad one, that’s all on the oc, i mean who their right mind knowing full well you got a qb that’s been prone all year to make mistakes early in games, why would you come out roll him out to his left and he’s right handed, whipple took the wrong approach to teaching jacory the position. Instead of leaving the ladder for the jacory to walk down, what he did was wait until jacory got on the roof and took the ladder and basically left jacory to figure out how to get down.

    No way last year should jacory have been allowed to throw the ball as much as he did, it was obvious and a few of us pointed it out, i specifically remember esteban saying(and that’s a guy who barely says negative things)he was dissappointed that whipple would come out throwing as much as he did knowing jacory was hurt. To me, whipple has been selfish, that’s the problem with having those double agents on the sideline, his sole purpose is, he’s trying to audition for the nfl at jacory’s expense, so he wants his offense to be seen as an aggressive one, and that with the right qb, his offense would run right. Well i got news for em, jacory is the right qb, whipple is just not being a smart oc.

  74. Ok… I can’t read another Whip/J12 sucks post. You guys are driving me crazy. LOL!

    Seriously though… there was a huge difference in the atmostphere at the staduim. To all of you watching at home (I rewatched the game on espn3 this morning) you don’t even get a taste of how hyped the players were last night… the defense in particular. I know there are still some issues with the team in key spots, but the energy was there and I was sooooo glad to see it.

    Canez1, you are one hilarious dude. So glad to finally meet you and put a face to the posts.

    JSQ brought it again… her tailgating efforts were instrumental in ensuring the win. Even the messed up parking situation didn’t stop us all from having a great time! :)

    Enjoy the win, Canes fans!

  75. Truth, have one of little T’s cupcakes and cheer the F up.

  76. First i gotta say, I was wayyyyyyy wrong..No way did I think the Canes would win this game, let alone by 3 scores..Congrats boys, now keep up the momentum and do this week in, and week out!! Go Canes!!

  77. Were you guys in W-20? I walked up and down and could not find you guys!!!!!

  78. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Case in point on whips play calls last night that I haven’t saw all year…toss sweep/swing pass to millz…and jump ball to Byrd on the goal line…and in the words of calvin…here’s to Shannon and staff “making half time adjustments” lol…something that will not even get mentioned is them shutting them out in the second half…and while er one talking about beating vt, how bout just winning THE NEXT GAME…thinkin other wise is where team Shannon has gotten in trouble in the past…fans like me included!!! Lol

  79. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Your football i.q. is high enuff to know and go watch the film of the plays executed from the better running formations, and if we’re going to clear out the backfield than that flare out pass needs to be used more often.

    The running game sets the tome for this offense, not that obvious pass happy crap.
    The bottom line, better formations, better execution, it’s that simple.

    >>>>>>>>>

    Cal, that’s it right there. That’s what’s been frustrating about Whipple this year especially. I even remember in the Clemson game when Spielman was saying, “I know they’re about to run a slant and go, they’re setting up the defense, they’ve got it in their holster ready to shoot.”
    We never shot.

    BG called it out a while back though. He said Whipple’s a good playcaller, not a good series and game-caller yet. I’m positive he didn’t use the running game to set up the passing game at UMass. There’s no way he could have really used it and understood its importance and call plays the way he’s called them since he’s been here.

    And that dumb-azz no RB, J12 under center ON 3RD DOWN AND 4 call even though it worked was a horrible call with the personnel he had on the field and the routes they were running. He has AJ running a post–not enough speed and he was covered. TB ran another post and he didn’t have any separation cause he doesn’t run great routes BUT MAINLY BECAUSE THE FORMATION TELEGRAPHED THE PLAY. Then he ad PAT HILL SPLIT OUT WIDE ON THE LEFT, away from the play. Finally he had Miller run into the flat.

    Miller was the best option for the 1st down but J12 saw TB one on one and with TB finally making plays on the ball he threw it to him. The ball was too high, too soft, yes but with it being underthrown TB was able to make a better play than the CB.

    But if I’m a SS I’m looking at that line-up and thinking “I’m taking the WRs and I’ll let the LBs and the other safety take care of the RB in the flat.”

    Meanwhile if you put KT/Streeter, Byrd and TB our there to one side, have one run underneath, the other run a crossing route and the last run a post, you’ve made the DBs make a series of choices they can’t possibly win.

    But that play would really be effective if he ran it with two RBs in the original set then sent one in motion, then the other, depending on the defense.

  80. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Actually Huff and Burrell are not” former,” Canes, once a Cane always a Cane.

  81. Thanks, KL!!! I had so much fun with you guys!

    Trying to talk Canez1 into coming down for VA Tech, too! That’s going to be a great tailgate!!!

    IT’S GREAT

    TO BE

    A MIAMI HURRICANE!

    F Butch!!!!

  82. While v-tech is good, i don’t want to hear it later on, because people forget, v-tech has a young secondary as well, i’m not worried about no team out there, it’s all about what we do on our side of the ball, and i’ll give you a perfect example of where whipple fails as an oc, after that brandon harris interception, whipple called plays that series as if the 15 yard penalty made it 1st and 25, instead of just going back to the run or running a passing play off of play-action.

    It’s those offensive series like that where whipple forgets what got us to success. whipples play-calling gave the momentum back to unc for that brief moment, why not run the deep paly-action, for those who said jacory had bad play action fakes, lol, while i understood what was trying to be said, just go back and watch the games, jacory’s play-action fakes got worse because of the play call, i mean why bother when it’s obvious we’re passing, last night he was carrying out his play fakes again for the 1st time in a long time. Simply because the play-action worked for real last night, and that’s what gives jacory more confidence in the pocket, if whipple doesn’t see that, than he needs to go to the pro’s quick where those kind of things he doesn’t have to be responsible for.

    He keeps running this offense like j12 doesn’t have to be taught any more.

  83. We were at w13, Canechic. I posted it on the blog. That’s where we were directed. We should exchange numbers before Maryland so you can just text me and find our coordinates!

  84. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Yes VERY true. We’ll have to play a complete and as close to error free game as we can. VTech will NOT beat themselves and Bud Foster is going to do what Bud Foster does. I respect the HELL out VTech. Tyrod is hitting a groove too and those 2 RBs are STUDS. So we’ll have our work cut out. Hopefully we can build on this game and keep getting better.

    >>>>>>>>

    Similar things were said about UNC coming into this game.

    VT is good, not great. Their OC has settled down and Bud’s a very good teacher and tactician but the main difference is Tyrod the Terrible settling into a groove as a passer.

    VT will have to play a complete and error free game too to have a chance to win.

  85. We were in W22…ugh so close…yes I will get your number for the next one.

  86. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 24, 2010 at 11:34 AM
    While v-tech is good, i don’t want to hear it later on, because people forget, v-tech has a young secondary as well, i’m not worried about no team out there, it’s all about what we do on our side of the ball, and i’ll give you a perfect example of where whipple fails as an oc, after that brandon harris interception, whipple called plays that series as if the 15 yard penalty made it 1st and 25, instead of just going back to the run or running a passing play off of play-action.

    >>>>>>

    Cal, yeah, we’ll know he’s really arrived as an OC when he calls a play-action on that 1st down in that situation. The game was ready to be iced so UNC was banking on the run. On nice play-action, esp. with Berry in the game, it could’ve been a long ball or some sort of crossing pattern.

    But I’ll give him that series. Horn or B. Wash totally whiffed and the DT got in the backfield on 1st. That was bad execution but a great playcaller would’ve capitalized on UNC’s eagerness to stop the run.

  87. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And does anyone know the reason why VT is playing so well, so well that some people think we’ll have to play a perfect game to beat them???

    THEY RUN THE DAMN BALL THEN USE PLAY-ACTION……….

  88. Sorry, Canechic, I was hoping you would see it on the blog. Next time! 3 more games to enjoy!

    I am so excited for the rest of the season now!!!!

    Woo hoo! GO ‘CANES!!!!

  89. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    KL, I won’t say another bad word about Whipple. lol

    What was Canez1 doing??? haha

  90. Great game! Go Canes!!

  91. JSQ says:
    October 24, 2010 at 11:26 AM
    Truth, have one of little T’s cupcakes and cheer the F up.
    //////////////////////////////////
    Say it LOUD a lil louder! cause if it’s all on j12, than why don’t we put jr. in, he should be able to run this offense to perfection and hit all those wide-open receivers that jacory keeps missing since on the mantle in that household, it was the Bible & playbook sitting side by side.

    cav, those plays calls after that brandon harris i.n.t., that’s the whipple that’s been holding this team back. shannon is going to have to take the jimmy johnson/norv turner route, while norv turner was a pretty good play-caller, he made to many bone-headed mistakes when un-supervised, the same with mark whipple, this mofo needs supervision, and from here on out, shannon needs to give it to him from time to time based on what he’s seeing, it’s always obvious when whipple gets confused and can’t come up with anything. Those play calls helped stoutland out who i said i’d give a pass to because of whipple’s play-calling and the fact that we had young guys, but more so, berry should’ve had 100 yards rushing in more than likely every game but the fsu game, especially with ohigho fake.

    berry came to play and whip kept going away from him, on 3rd and 8 in that game, you just could feel something bad was going to happen on that 1st 3rd down situation when jacory was asked to pass, a real oc would’ve just went ahead and called a running play, and see what happens, and than punt it out of their to get the guys settled in on what we’re going to try and do, but to early and to often, jacory is put in high pressure situations to make plays and that’s alot for any qb, particularly at the college level.

  92. Cav, Canez1 was force fed jello shots, jungle juice and eleventy beers. Jokes ensued.

  93. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Truth,

    You can say what you want about UNC’s freshman DB’s being weak, but they were exposed by Whipple. Isnt that what a good OC is suppose to do? Am i missing something? Whipple, J-12 and the WRs took advantage of a matchup and your using UNC’s weakness as a reason not to give credit where credit is do.

    Truth = Debbie Downer

    Truth = Chicken Little

    In truth’s world, RS and Whipple cant do anything right!

    Nit pick 24/7

    Its not that you dont have valid points at times, but the constant negativity is annoying.

    they win and you still bitching!

    Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

    Enjoy the victory at least until Monday, geshhhh!

  94. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Manny……

    Couple of thoughts before we get to the video:

    > I can’t stress enough how much emotion had to do with this win. The Hurricanes looked like an entirely different team, playing with heart, playing with passion, celebrating big plays and not caring about drawing penalties. In the third quarter, I felt like someone switched the DVD and put in highlights from The U movie. The question now becomes will the Canes keep it up?

    That’s hard to say. But it if felt like after talking to Brandon Harris — you’ll see the video below — that this team did exactly what Randy Shannon wanted them to do. They became accountable for themselves, started policing themselves. Harris said the team had a players only meeting last Tuesday, prompted by himself, Sean Spence and Vaughn Telemaque. He said during the private meeting, different players stood up and expressed themselves. It took them a little while, but the Canes started playing with that emotion Saturday. Like Telemaque told me last week, you can’t be a vocal leader until you actually do something on the field. Now that some of these Hurricanes have — especially on defense — maybe we’ll start seeing this team on Saturdays instead of the lazy, walk-through version we’ve seen far too often. Cross your fingers, anyway.

    > Heard this after the game: Former Cane Antrel Rolle, who visited UM on Tuesday, was a big part of that players only meeting and encouraging Shannon to come out of his shell a little more. Not sure if Shannon actually danced. But he definitely chest-bumped Orlando Franklin.

    > Quarterback Jacory Harris looked like he was getting off to a terrible game Saturday. He threw a wounded duck on a deep route to Travis Benjamin on UM’s opening drive, then threw and interception on an absolutely terrible pass back across his body. But give Jacory credit. He rebounded nicely, finishing 21 of 32 for 217 yards and three touchdowns. What I liked most about Harris was that he didn’t get down. According to Shannon, after his pick, he came to the sideline and said I should have run the ball. I’m not saying Harris is completely over his woes. He still couldn’t hit the deep ball and was almost intercepted two more times. But this was his best game in quite a while. And that’s a start.

    Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/10/canes-talk-after-north-carolina-win.html#ixzz13I9sGUlb

  95. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ
    October 24, 2010 at 11:48 AM
    Cav, Canez1 was force fed jello shots, jungle juice and eleventy beers. Jokes ensued

    >>>>>>>>

    LMAO!!!!

  96. I did not check the blog before the game, it was kinda a nightmare trying ot get four cars organized and on time to get in the gates together, lol!

  97. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, Truth’s mad at Shannon and J12, not Whipple.

  98. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    You can say what you want about UNC’s freshman DB’s being expoused, but isnt that what a good OC is suppose to do? Am i missing something? Whipple, J-12 and the WRs took advantage of a matchup and some on this blog is using UNC’s weakness as a reason not to give credit where crdit is do.

    Truth = Debbie Downer

    Truth = Chicken Little

    In truth’s world, RS and Whipple cant do anything right!

    Nit pick 24/7

    Its not that you dont have valid points at times, but the constant negativity is annoying. they win and you still bitching!

    To me UNC’s defensive and offensive lines got handled all night last night. Those same guys had Clemson’s qb under pressure that entire game and their rb ran wild.

    Furthermore, the thing that i take away from this game is the play of the offensive line.

    UNC’s line play is one of the reason some picked them to beat the Canes because the conventional wisdom was that d-line would get consistent pressure on J-12 and have success against that young o-line.

    But that was not the case.

    I never thought the Canes o-line would run block and protect J-12 like the way the did. They are starting to jell and dominate.

    VT and GT d-line isnt as good as UNC’s. They will have trouble against our o-line. You wait and see.

  99. cav, exactly, the reason that play got blown up in the backfield because they knew whip was going to be conservative and call a running play they had seen enuff of all night, now imagine he goes play-action pass, or a screen play on that ist play-call, now he’d have unc’s defense back on their heels, but that’s not whipple ball, to often, and let’s not forget this fact too, in obvious passing formations, it’s not only stressing the qb, and the o-line, what’s it’s also doing is stressing the wide-outs to have to run excellent routes and hope they get open. That approach won’t be successful for whipple at the college, may with the new england patriots and tom brady, but other than that, that offensive philosophy he has will doom him and any offense unless he tightens up.

  100. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 24, 2010 at 11:51 AM

    Bahama, Truth’s mad at Shannon and J12, not Whipple.
    ——————————————
    Cav, how the heck can he be mad at RS, J-12 and not Whipple?

    RS aint calling the plays?

    RS aint J-12’s qb coach is he?

    Is there another reason why He wants to point the fingers at RS and J-12 and exclude the OC?

  101. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    JSQ, you know what would be nice? If you could somehow manage to get and post some video of the tailgating for those of us not in the US!

  102. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, he’s mad at Shannon because he didn’t bench J12 after the pick. This in turn makes Whipple’s job harder….

  103. cav, even after unc stuffed that running play, i would’ve ame right back with the run, if nothing else, you might not be winning that series but you are winning the time battle at that point because the more time that goes off the clock, the more decision that have to be made by the other side, instead we come back with to obvious passes, because all defensive coordinators no, whipple is coming back with the pass if his offense gets negative yards on a 1st down running play. That’s the time you’re suppose to stick with it.

    whipple is no jack sparrow, that mofo abandons ship to often.

  104. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, the ONLY QB-OL-WR connection that could pull off that play on the regular is Dan Marino, with Duper and Clayton. Brady’s offense was too dependent on the running game. Maybe Dan Fouts with Air Coryell could’ve run that.

    NO ONE ELSE….

  105. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Perfect example of the hates and what exactly they hate…..

    >>>>>>>

    This UNC win is as empty as when they beat Sam Bradford-less Oklahoma last year. Lots of false hope and propaganda, but no heart for the big victory. 2010/2011 will turn out to be the biggest waste of talent in the history of college football–the number of NFL stars on this team will show that Randy Shannon had no idea of to turn it all into a UM-style winner. Kirby, please let Mark Whipple(and Spencer Whipple for that matter) take it the rest of the way.

    Posted by: indiacane | October 24, 2010 at 06:49 AM

    Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2010/10/canes-talk-after-north-carolina-win.html#ixzz13ID7EABh

  106. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 24, 2010 at 11:58 AM

    Bahama, he’s mad at Shannon because he didn’t bench J12 after the pick. This in turn makes Whipple’s job harder….
    ———————————————————
    And he doesnt understand that?

    Why?

    He things Whipple Jr or AJ would do better?

    Is Truth at practice?

    does he see things and know things that the coaching staff doesnt?

    He is like the rest of us, ON THE OUTSIDE LOOKING IN, posting what we see. None of us have any real INFORMATION as to what is going on with this team in the locker room and practice.

    the coaches know why AJ and Whipple aint playing!

    All we do is speculate!

  107. For real i was thinking shannon should bench j12 after that pick, but than, i’m quite sure shannon understood the importance of j12 staying in their and handing the ball off, and for the 1st time i saw shannon and jacory communicating in game when shannon pointed to his head giving jacory the signal, be smart, than if i’m not mistake, the td to laron byrd happened, shannon is growing into his role as well and not relying on whip cause j12 has more confidence in shannon did whipple.

    I’ve said it all along, whipple might have alot of good plays, and may just turn out to be a good oc one day, but the fact remains, he’s not. route discipline is not taught, case in point, that pass the running back caught where spence forced the fumble, just look at the route he ran, that was a nice play call, a nice route and excellent execution, that’s basically the same play that had we run it like that against ohigho fake, damien berry would’ve more than likely have scored, but what happened was, i saw it right away, i said damyum, he’s going out in his route quick, and basically to the same spot that was open the play before, not goos and than bam, the heyward pick, i knew something bad was going to happen on that play cause i saw how quickly whip tried to rush the offense back to that play cause it was open the play before and what whipple fails to realize, if he saw it, the other side more than likely saw it too.

    That’s where whipple gets outcoached, he tries to comeback to something the very next play cause he saw it open the play before, and that’s not helping jacory at all. People often will say the qb understands exactly where the oc wants to go with the ball, well on tht heyward pick, that’s where whipple wanted j12 to go with that ball, the problem was, that’s where the ball should’ve have gone the play before that instead of hank being the primary receiver coming across, anyway, this team will go as far as the offensive formations take us.

    The defense for sure though will play strong for the rest of the year. If a team makes a play, this defense will respond and make their own. cav, cmac has to be in their against the more physical teams right now, because while cmac will never be a good mlb, he is able to stand up to the pounding of o-linemen coming straigh at em, i saw one collision betwen cmac and this o-linemen that would’ve more than likely have blown kelvin cain back a few yards.

    One things for sure though, on that damien berry touchdown, just watch seantrel and b-wash, and linder, those guys are going to drive d-line crazy, lol.

  108. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Don’t forget…..A GROIN IS A GROIN!!!! lol

  109. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, Truth is something of an insider compared to most of us. So he seems to be basing his views on some inside information.

    But still this is about management and leadership and knowing your players. What works with one player might not work with another. Benching may have worked but it may have backfired and from a tactical perspective I don’t really see an advantage to putting Whipple or AJ in.

    QBs make mistakes all the time. Take Ponder for instance. He threw four INTs and almost singlehandedly lost the BC game.

    Does JImbo just bench him and suddenly that fixes everything??? I doubt it.

    I think Shannon knows his players and handles them accordingly.

  110. bahamCane, people know what’s going on at practice, and you know for yourself, the best qb on this team was and is j12, i don’t care who we play, if we run that same offense we run last night, the game is either going to be a dog fight or we’re going to start blowing people out, had jacory been able to connect on a few more long balls, we’ve have been alright. Sometimes qb’ing is just like shooting free throws or getting a lay-up. Once a shooter gets to the free throw line, he normally starts making his jumps shots, same with jacory, once he starts hitting on his short routes, he’ll continue to connect on those deep throws.

    laron byrd did seem to pull up just a tad bit on that one 1 pass though, and jacory zipped it, after under throwing benjamin, he tried to make sure he got that one out their and on time.

    tyrone cornelius, we’ll see if he’s a future hitter on this team. i luv seeign the way brandon harris starting running off the field, and i’m quite sure that team meeting went real good, although i don’t like to hear about em, but i know one thing, the main guys that should’ve been speaking, cause i can only imagine, if i’m a player on this team coming from out of state, i would’ve been in their going off. especially a guy like vaughn telemaque, cause i would’ve gotten up and said, you know, growing up i always wanted to play for Miami, because what i saw was a team that played hard, played with pride, played to dominate and played with passion. Those are the things that drawed me to commit to this team. Alot of yall are from here, so you didn’t have to give up much if at all nothing. But i gave up a whole lot, i could’ve went to a school closer to home so my family could come and see me play all the time, and i could’ve been close to my family and friends like you guys are here, but i chose to come out here for those things i mentioned early, and i committed to that, and showed up, the reality is, i also committed to the guys who were coming in that class with me and believed in my heart that we could get this thing done, because UM represented family, but so far it seems like alot of things have been taking granted, we no playing with anything of the things or reasons i came here for, i believed in randy shannon and what he told me when he came out to cali, and right now i feel like i’m letting him down and to a mn, all of us in this room are and have been.

    I’ll be got damyum if i play another game as if i cam out to this mofo for nothing and leave UM without earning your respect or the respect of the players who came before us, from here on out, i’m laying all on the line, i just need 21 mo to come with me and get this thing done.

  111. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The defense for sure though will play strong for the rest of the year. If a team makes a play, this defense will respond and make their own. cav, cmac has to be in their against the more physical teams right now, because while cmac will never be a good mlb, he is able to stand up to the pounding of o-linemen coming straigh at em, i saw one collision betwen cmac and this o-linemen that would’ve more than likely have blown kelvin cain back a few yards.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Cal, good point about C-Mac handling the pounding. But if he knew how to avoid a block and get to the RB he wouldn’t have to take the pounding.

    I swear it’s like he runs into OL consciously. It’s the craziest thing. I saw him doing that against OSU and was like, wtf is he doing? lol

    I want to see Cain a lot in the next two weeks. We’re going to need him at some point.

  112. cav, had j12 thrown another interception, i’m quite sure radny would’ve benched em, but from what i saw, after that interception shannon basically said run the ball, and keep running it, and that was the difference in the game, and it will go along way in what randy will identify as jacory and reading him or any of his other qb’s for that matter from here on out. I’m quite sure teddy b and any other recruits who were at that game appreciated seeing that offense that much as oppose to what they saw saturday night, even a guy like sammy watkins would’ve been proud of that, i’m not to sure about sammy’s speed though, although he reminds me of a faster aj2.

  113. cav, cmac is a collision specialist, he doesn’t try to dodge/avoid players to often when he does run to a spot before the o-linemen get there, he normally makes a nice play. cmac, that’s my boy though, he’s just a victim, but he’s sacrificing for the team playing out of position but he still brings that fire, i luv the way he gave that runningback the business after spence caused him to fumble, lol.

  114. OH NO, it can’t be, Mr. ” i have no weaknesses” cav, you’ll enjoy the 2nd play, to me that was foxes career, lol, like when a receiver turns and runs to early, like man you forgot to take the ball with you, same with fox on that 2nd play, aahhhmm fox you forgot to do something, fox: oh yeah, that’s right!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkzOYmoBV-s

  115. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The last play for Whipple and the OL to implement and execute is running out of the shotgun, 1 back or 2. If and when they learn how to block for that and Whipple learns when to call it, he’ll have almost infinite options every time we line up.

    He’ll be able to run almost anything from almost anywhere.

  116. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 24, 2010 at 12:35 PM
    cav, cmac is a collision specialist, he doesn’t try to dodge/avoid players to often when he does run to a spot before the o-linemen get there, he normally makes a nice play. cmac, that’s my boy though, he’s just a victim, but he’s sacrificing for the team playing out of position but he still brings that fire, i luv the way he gave that runningback the business after spence caused him to fumble, lol.
    >>>>>>>

    Haha, that was funny. I’m just worried about him in space. He’s fine if he’s blitzing or spying. But we’ll see.

  117. cav, cmac actually gave it to the the other back, not colzy, but even still, he’s never been a punk.

  118. With 2 losses and rightfully so, we are a top 25 team, we have a top 10 defense, that’s for sure, as soon as our offense becomes top 30 or 40, espeically in the redzone, no one will be able to beat this team. Going to be a real battle for the middle linebacking spot come next year, as well as the db battles as well. I’ll say it again, coach mcgriff has got to get credit for the secondary,, they’ve been balling all year, and coach petri as well of course, our d-line can do more though, but with forston commanding double teams now, that should open up for more sacks.

    ryan hill and dvd, the best db combination in college football right now. he got physical, and so they had to start running drag routes for jones in order to get him off of that press coverage, lol. If you don’t have good route runners, that’s what you have to do as an oc for those who don’t know. allen hurns is doing a great job blocking. j12 not backing down from nobody, people keep thing 12 is a sucka or something, lol. Anyway, from here on out, this team is going to be balling like this win lose or draw, hopefully whipple doesn’t digress, i have no confidence in whipple being consistent, but this could be the turning point because shannon will have to demand on certain series the type of play calls he want to see.

  119. fsu only dominated us because of mark whipple, the running game has been there all year, i’m not sure how or who(i got a good idea) 1st start labeling this o-line as not being able to run block, but when berry could’ve basically got 100 yards against osu, somebody is not using the running game to the offenses advantage. Getting 5 yards on a 1st down run and than again, going empty backfield is not how taking advantage of the running game is suppose to work. Just watch all these positivie plays and how we actuall started coming back, how, behind the WHAT, hmmm, i thought so. At the 6:15 mark, after that run by db, watch #10, db has left alot of guys like that this year, and than they get up and look at him like, damyum, i don’t want to have to keep tackling that guy, who is he. This game, like shannon said was on him, and what he meant by that was, it’s going to be up to him from here on out to make sure his assitants are putting the players in the best possible position to win games.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGpJIokt7L4

  120. While this announcer is trying to break it down, i keep looking for the other receiver/option jacory had, after benjamin cleared out that zone, no other receiver went behind him to occupy the safety.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBIzMgfQobo

  121. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Bahama you got me confused with someone else. I’m not the nit picker.

    And yeah I have been out at practice. Thanks!

    Jacory is the best QB on the team and I’ve ALWAYS said that. That ain’t saying much at this point.

    I’m also saying he shouldve been benched for a SERIES. Or maybe the rest of the half. I’d rather watch Whip Jr MANAGE the game that see Japicky give it away.

    You guys are obsessed with this coaching thing to the point of nauseum. Do you think Whipple is coaching Jacory to throw floaters and off his back foot and stare down his guys?????

    Whip is working with the QB SHANNON says will be the starter. Great. But when the starter isn’t listening to his coach and making stupid choices he NEEDS to sit. Period.

    You think Spurrier let’s HIS QB get away with that?

    My issue with Jacory is I don’t totally believe he sees himself as the liability he’s become. He knows his HC NEEDS him to won games and I THINK he thinks that’s good enough.

    I believe his HC needs to show his starting QB that mistakes won’t be tolerated. But he won’t.

    And any of you thinking UNC started that game with 3 frosh as CB are crazy and need to rewatch the game. Jascary didn’t start lighting it up until the newbies hit the field.

    I am a Shannon backer. I am a jacory backer. But I’m allowed to see things as they ARE. And right now the HC is screwing up with the way he’s handling his QB.

    And if you can say that you know Jacory can’t make those throws against VT then WTF do you think is going to happen at VT????

    The same damn thing.

    And while we’re on the topic…this beef between
    the OC and the HC goes both ways. You don’t think Whip wants a QB that’s held accountable? When he’s chucking INTs do you really think he wants to trot that kid out there?

    Obviously not because you think somehow the OC is a magician that dials up magical plays that allow the players to simply move and there’s success…

    The players don’t need to think! Hogwash!!!

    And I think you guys are hilarious in believing an entire game worth of OL play should be credited to the OC and his formations LOL

    The OC was able to things BECAUSE the OL played well. Maybe it’s a little both but you guys are world famous for quoting these former players and current players to prove your points, EXCEPT when they’re saying it doesn’t matter what’s called the players are the ones that need to make the play.

    Finally, I love how you ask me for my opinion and when I say it with the fire I have today it’s that I’m a downer or a nitpicker. I see what I see and HEAR what I hear and I’m telling you…the QB is not getting it done.

    He was successful yesterday ONLY because of the DB’s. He hadn’t changed. He’s going to play poorly again and I guess it’ll be back to whipple…

  122. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Bahama,

    Truth is just a regular guy…….ain’t that right Bernie? Like the hair cut…LOL

  123. avatar
    The Truth says:

    The ol could run block all year? LMAO

  124. avatar
    The Truth says:

    What I love is at this point you guys are just throwing sh*t on the wall and making it stick!

  125. I hate to agree with Truth but he’s on point in this case;)

    I’m happy cause I saw improvement.

    * Only one pick by J12 and it wasn’t returned too far.

    * We didn’t start to self destruct with penalties until almost halftime!

    * Our O line finaly started run blocking with enough consistency that we had a productive running game!!

    * And loved the enthusiasm from the players.

    Don’t sleep on UVA though, they got a tough team and a very good coach IMO.

    One game at a time with balls to the walls emotion and energy and we’ll be all right.

  126. Oh and at least nobody tried to blame J12s pick on Travis Benjamin this time! haha

  127. ok, here the question than, before the season what was the o-line better at, run blocking or pass blocking. You don’t just luck up and get over 100 yards rushing against osu, the 2nd game of the season, the 1st game, it was FAMU, than we had the pitt game and than came, and than against fsu, fullback offset, we run the ball effectively, no different than yesterday, if you’re seriously trying to say formations don’t matter than either you’re hung over or can’t see.

    And you won’t ever find a quote from me agreeing with former players or anybody about, “it’s on the players to execute what’s called” cause that’s a joke statement depending on who’s calling the plays, i’ll never believe that statement to be true all the time. For example, when the oklahoma sooners use to play us and lose, was it because they didn’t execute or was it because we knew what was coming, and had the players to shut it down. When we beat g-tech last year, was it because they didn’t execute, or was it because that offense gets real limited when you have the players to stop and are discipline enuff to do it.

    So it’s not always on the players, nix called alot of garbage plays last year at the wrong times, hell if that’s the case the so called “it’s up to the players to execute it” than todd berry should still be the oc here and nix at the same time, you have got to be smoking if that’s the case.

    play-calling is about timing, i don’t care if jacory throws those same passes against any team, as long as it’s in one on one coverage that’s fine with me. You want to say whip is not teaching jacory to throw off of his back foot, of course not, but it’s whipples play-calling that’s causing jacory to bail out like that on passes, once whipple gave jacory a running game, he started stepping into his throws, you can’t deny that. jacory’s decision making will get better with a more conservative game plan.

    Not with that yahoo play-calling whipple does, that’s why all secondaries get hype and ready to play against us, because they know they’e going to have plenty of chances to get there hands on a pass, the bigger questions is, not whether aldarius johnson should’ve come back to the ball or whether jacory should’ve zipped it in their, but how/why was the db already sitting on that route, because i know, just like anybody who’s paid attention, on roll-outs we run quick curl routes all the time, so when you see a receiver coming, just stand their and get ready, and that’s all searcy had to do, just a bad play call, ok, if jacory throws it away, fine, or if he runs it, fine, but the point that a bad pass play was still called. low percentage.

    So are you saying formations don’t affect run blocking or passing plays?

  128. dz8, name 1 game this year where we couldn’t run the ball effectively when damien berry and pat hill not being the lead fullback. What games are yall watching where we couldn’t run the ball, so are yall saying whipple didn’t abandon the run.

  129. dz8, yall are missing the point, why is it that j12 is always being put in high pressure situations to make a play on 3rd downs in our territory, go back to that fsu game, once we started depending on the running game, it opened up whipples offense, i’m just surprised that it’s not obvious to yall, lol. i don’t care about jacory throwing picks, what i care about is us running an effective offense with some form of an identity, we did that last night and got the win convincingly, we didn’t do that to duke and it showed, all the top teams stick to something that’s their strength, if j12 is not our strength, why does whipple keep trying to pound square pegs into round holes.

    whipple’s impatients is what has doomed this offense, we got patient last night and it all started opening up on offense. Now j12 and laron byrd not connecting, that’s on the players, j12 not connecting with travis benjamin, that’s on the players, but jacory on that 1st throw had no confidence in his o-line, but once he found out those guys up front weren’t playing, he did his thing for the most part, and jacory is a good enuff qb for this team to win a national championship point blank.

  130. Pittsburgh, Clemson, Ohio State, Florida State are all games we did NOT run block consistently. We would have a good run and then get stuffed enough that we couldn’t rely on it.

    When I saw the pick last night I thought, well at least no one will try and make excuses for J12 on that one. The receiver was sitting in his spot with a defender to his right. J12 then proceeds to throw it about 3 yards to the receivers right. Un freakin believeable.

    Anyways its all good Cal… we got the win and showed some improvement.

  131. Miami played a great game last night that most importantly felt good for us fans. We saw good things in various facets of the game and the W in that fashion couldn’t have come at a better time.

    That should be pretty clear.

    Now that all being said, I think everyone needs to step away the kool-aid and remove the orange and green glasses.

    I understand nobody is saying that was a perfect W, but Truth is right and I agree 100%. We SHOULD have won that game in that fashion. Imagine our team without Bailey, Regis, Spence, B. Harris, Berry and Hank just to start. That’s who we played last night. And though I knw we can go back and forth citing the positive and negative plays from J12, the point is he still has major issues.

    And it’s not nit picking, maybe its just tyring to bring some balance to a conversation.

    Finally regardless, let’s hope that effort and energy are here to stay because no matter how you feel, we all agree that is a must for future continued success.

  132. Cal I think you all are missing the point. It’s like you think the only route that J12 had available to him is whichever one he decided to throw to. He has other, in a lot of cases better, options.

    Because he has other options it is NOT on the OC as far as J12s vulnerability.

    We got fans who can’t help themselves and make excuses for ONE player on this team. (I know Calvin you are in love with J12 and think he is one of the better college QBs. I just don’t see it that way but it’s all good.)

  133. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    J12 completed 65.6 % of his passes and had a QB rating of 147.3

    Miami had 215 yards rushing on 44 attempts for a avg of 5.1 per attempt.

    UNC had 149 yds rushing, one play for 76 yards, the rest of the 28 rushing plays gained 73 yards for an avg of 2.6 yards per rush.

    The offense had 442 net yards and 5/16 on third down and 3/3 on fourth down. Oh yeah, freshman, true freshman contributing on these plays.

    Miami ran 76 plays to their 50, the O-line was doing something right, ya think?

    The Hurricanes had 26 first downs to 10 for UNC. What O-line with a true freshman made that happen? What RS freshman running the ball contributed to that stat? Oh yeah were they running behind a true freshman some of the time? I dunno….. LOL

    I guess I watched a different game then some U, granted U can’t see the whole field on TV but lets get real here….Celebrate, Celebrate, Dance to the Music………….

    Give them their due.

  134. It’s not about me being crazy over j12, if he was garbage i’d call him out, like those 4 picks against osu, 3 of them were all on j12, like i said, can’t blame receivers running the wrong routes, etc. etc. But the point even in that game, it starts with the play designs, and whipple continues to give up keys to defenses and than coordinators by his play desings and formations, every time we reel it in, our whole team loos better, when we played osu last year, we reeled in the offense and stuck with the running game and than jacory did his thing. You cannot deny jacory has the talent, it’s their, but unless he gets groomed, he won’t excel, and that’s where whipple failed jacory last year, by allowing him to be a gun slinger far to often.

    And the reason we didn’t run the ball well in those games consistently was because of our formations, but in all of those games you just posted, apparently you didn’t watch the games. What is your idea of running the ball consistently.

  135. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Yesterday I watched Oliver Luck and Ryan Mallett and Michigan St. QB Cousins, Ohio St QB Pryor, Texax QB Gilbert Godfrey (joke) (he plays like Gilbert Godfrey)and OU QB Jones play. Again U can’t see the whole field on TV but…….

    All of the critical comments about J12’s play you could apply to what I saw from those guys as well. The criticisms are getting old and its the same old ish every game. He has gotten better the last two games give credit where its due, is he perfect, no, but no one including the elites I mentioned above are perfect and make lots of mistakes in games too.

  136. My idea of running the ball consistently is to not get stuffed behind the line of scrimmage. I watched the Ohio State, Florida State game on TV. Was at Pittsburgh in person and saw the end of the Clemson game on TV. I know at the end of the day our stats made it look like we had a good running game but my only point is the consistency. Hell even against Duke we went for it on a 4th and 2 and got stuffed.

    I will agree that I wish that Whipple didn’t do some of his goofy formations and just lined up and attacked or ran the ball (ala Stanford).

    It’s all good Randy, I wouldn’t even be commenting if we didn’t give me some signs of life:) So yes, celebrate…

  137. cav, on that 1 play where “truth” miller ran up the sideline,(the one that didn’t get called back) want to know what help to make that play work, guess what happened besides jacory audibling, mike james was lined up at fullback that time. So the defense had to respect that as well.

    shannon said it himself after the fsu game, i got to do a better job of getting the right personel in the game for the right plays, etc. etc. We saw a better job of that last night for sure. HurriCane randy, some people on here ran thru the wrong smoke last night, that’s why they keep talking j12 and not whipple’s schizophrenic play calling. whipple went right back to his wayward ways after that brandon harris interception, don’t listen to me, go and watch the game, 1st down, he calls a running play, why do that, that’s the play where you want to go play action right away andforce the defense on their heels, if we’ve been running the ball good all game, than call something based off of that to keep the momentum going, i’ve said it last year and it’s still true this year, whipple doesn’t know how to call plays to build momentum, so he’s out of touch with that part of the game for sure.

    Let’s go back to the fsu game last year, i think we were up, and our defense got the ball back, and the 1st 2 offensive plays calls, were so stupid, had most people scratching their heads, than on third down is when jacory got hit by greg reid and fsu scored that touchdwon on defense. The main point is, we had the opportunity to seize the game, and whipple gave it right bak to the other team with his play selection. Than comeback to the osu game, that play to asante cleveland, excellently designed play, those are the type of plays you run on 3rd downs, not wait until we’re in 4th down to do it, but whipples favorite plays on third downs are the curl routes.

    Than like you pointed out cav, that play where benjamin caught it, why is aldarius running the same route downfield, if anything, aj2’s route should’ve been the up and out route right behind travis which may have cleared the space out for both of them to be open. I got faith in jacory i don’t have faith in whipple.

  138. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    DZ and others

    I’m not being critical of your thoughts , they are well thought out, and deserved to be said , just saying…..take this or that into account, that’s all.

    It’s all good commentary and I learn a lot from it.

    Take no offense at anything I say…I can be a real butt sometimes, just ask my ex and she will confirm that for sure. LOL

  139. I never believe what women say anyways Randy;)

  140. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And if you can say that you know Jacory can’t make those throws against VT then WTF do you think is going to happen at VT????

    >>>>>>>

    Truth did you really ask this question???

    The answer is……..YOU CALL A DIFFERENT, BETTER PLAY THAN THAT IDIOTIC NO-RB, J12 UNDER CENTER SHYT.

    There were only 3 or 4 throws/routes that you’d say “that might not work against a team with veteran DBs.” You make it sound like everything he threw was complete only because UNC had some frosh CBs.

    It’s comical to me how you make it sound like we’re saying something new when we’ve been saying this shyt since OSU. Whipple has been a pass-first, second and third OC since he’s been here. He throws in runs on occasion but he’s never COMMITTED to the run. And he’s never committed to play-action, even when the running game was on.

    He flirted with the run until a team stuffed it on first down then he IMMEDIATELY goes shotgun and destroys any momentum from the running game.

    He did it against Pitt, Clemson and FSU and even Duke. OR he just runs the ball over and over and doesn’t use play-action. This game was the first game where he used multiple sets for running and passing in the same drive on consecutive series.

    He had that one half-brained series after the celebration penalty, you know, the one with Gordon as the deep ball threat. Otherwise he truly and finally mixed it up, and even showed some creativity and great timing of calls.

    Furthermore, if we’re crazy why DID EVERYONE ELSE NOTICE AND COMMENT ON THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PLAYCALLING AND THE DIFFERENCE IT MADE FOR J12.

    Finally, Shannon knows the best way to settle down J12 isn’t to bench him, it’s TO RUN THE BALL and then work play-action off of it.

    Whipple learned a lesson about big time CFB playcalling last night, cause he clearly didn’t learn much about NFL playcalling. Something he’s proven he doesn’t know much about. Unless it was just the players.

    And if you don’t think disguise is the key to offense, the key to EXECUTION, I don’t know what you’re watching bro. I really don’t.

  141. ok dz8, against osu, did we not stuff alot of their running plays, but did they abandon the run or did they just start calling better running plays, you can adjust your running plays based on how the d-line is playing, particularly the ends, so if the ends are getting up field, you just simply call a counter trap, and comebck to that side, nothing special, but called at the right time, it works to perfection, osu could run on us, but they stayed with the run because they stayed physical, our offense stayed finess and it cost us.

    whipple is calling play contrary to what randy wants, he doesn’t want all of the burden on 1 player, but in whipples systemt, that’s what it’s doing, causing jacory to have to make the right reads all game long. How simple was that play that unc ran where yates hit the back out of the backfield where spence ripped em. have you ever seen us run a play so simple but effective, all of whipple plays are boom or bust type plays and they shouldn’t be.

    All teams get stuffed behind the line of scrimmage but whipple’s play-calls & formations are wrong to many times.

  142. We got, j12 on one side whipple on the other.

    cav, seriously, have you ever seen a qb under center with no runningbacks that many times on purpose.

  143. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    The point that i made and will make again is this:

    It just seems that some seem to POINT OUT THE NEGATIVE ALL THE TIME!

    ALL

    THE

    FREAKING

    TIME!

    Does this team have areas to grow in and get better at? Yes.

    But when you cant enjoy a win and just point out what they do wrong ALL THE TIME, its to the point where its annoying.

    My God Truth, your a scorch record! You just repeat the same thing over and over and over and over again.

    We get it. You think RS and J-12 sucks! Fine. great for you! but I saw the team do some good things and i choose to look at the positive steps they made going forward the rest of the season.

    If you think that makes me a kool aid drinker, then your entitled to that opinion. But considering where this team and the fan base was after that Noles lost and duke win, i will take this win and changes i saw them make in that game as a positive thing and get annoyed when i read the same ole negative crap over and over and over again.

    I dont expect them to fix everything over night. Maybe you do.

    Some of the issues are coaching, some are personnel, and some is execution. But this isnt the NFL. You have to work with what you have.

    The flaws that you see, i am sure the coaches see them as well. You act as if they are not trying to fix them. Whipple tweaked his play calling, the WR caught some balls, the o-line blocked, the TE caught a few passes. Some mistakes were made, but you dont think the play calling, the execution and the personnel changes was better yesterday compared to the last few weeks?

    There was some positive things i took out of this game that makes me believe that more changes are coming. Thats the reason for my optimisim.

    But its like your annoyed that they are not doing what YOU want them to do, that they are not seeing what the might TRUTH sees.

    If you think your football knowledge is superior to RS, Whipple and everyone else, maybe you should offer yourself to coach. Maybe the might TRUTH can show them how its done!

  144. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    I really think that as fans our expectations are too high. We think back to the days of our Golden Era and fantasize about how good those guys and teams were. But we tend to forget the losses, the numerous penalties and games like Toretta throwing four interceptions, gosh I can’t remember who…LOL. Testaverde throwing five picks in the Fiesta Fiasco and these guys won Heismans. The painful losses and all of the mistakes that were made that would have made the Golden Era perhaps the greatest in college football history.

    Yes this team has issues….. but all teams do. This team isn’t as bad as some want to make it out and it’s not as good as our expectations say they should be. No one is 100% right, well if you take JSQ out of that equation, then it’s a true statement.

    The only absolute is that there are no absolutes!!!!

  145. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    DZ,

    You have learned perhaps the greatest truth in life. LOL

  146. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    DZ8, what you saw at Pitt and Clemson was a tale of two halves.

    1st half Whipple ran and passed well, with more emphasis on the pass by far but enough runs to at least keep the defense honest. The problem is he didn’t use enough play-action within a series for the defense to not know what to adjust to at the half. Soooooooo……..

    In the 2nd half of EACH GAME the defense made a few adjustments and STUFFED THE SAME RUNS WHIPPLE KEPT CALLING.

    Whipple didn’t anticipate their adjustments, he didn’t use play-action….

    You know what he did…..HE WENT STRAIGHT TO THE SHOTGUN.

    Which continued the downward spiral because Figs and the frosh couldn’t handle a telegraphed pass rush. But that’s on the players to execute of course, not on the OC to know his team’s strengths and weaknesses and call plays accordingly.

    So J12 gets sacked a few times, loses what little confidence he had in the OL, the passing lanes shrink, and the defense has to save the day.

    In this game, Whipple DID NOT ABANDON the run if we didn’t get 10 yards on 1st down. He stayed with it and USED PLAY ACTION, repeatedly, on the same series.

    VOILA!!!

    Suddenly J12 has time. Suddenly the WRs aren’t double covered. Suddenly J12 is making his reads and even looking off DBs to open up the passing lanes.

    But according to some people he sucks cause he doesn’t always dump the ball short and see open receivers. None of this has to do with Whipple’s playcalling of course.

    BULLSHYT.

    It has as much to do with his playcalling this year as it did last year, before defenses adjusted to the long ball threat.

    At the end of the day the offense in total is his responsibility. But thanks to last night, we’ll see more power football and play-action.

  147. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Bahama, two words:

    Suck it

    You got me mixed up with someone else. No one on this planet supports Shannon more than I. Doesn’t mean I can’t call him out when I know he’s making a mistake.

    I did enjoy the win, just not the play of the QB.

    And I’m not saying I don’t think Jacory isn’t capable of being, he’s just not doing it now and he’s not going to do as long as he keeps getting a free pass.

  148. Randy, just don’t tell JSQ or canechic!

    Calvin, Its all good buddy I’m a big run the ball type of guy and I get frustrated when we go away from it so early.

    Captain… in the Pittsburgh game we ran more in the 2nd half and it did start to open up for us.

    It’s all good. We still got some issues, we’ve always had the talent, but we saw a healthy, beating pulse from the team last night and it was great to see!

  149. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    The Truth says:
    October 24, 2010 at 3:03 PM

    Bahama, two words:

    Suck it

    You got me mixed up with someone else. No one on this planet supports Shannon more than I. Doesn’t mean I can’t call him out when I know he’s making a mistake.

    I did enjoy the win, just not the play of the QB.

    And I’m not saying I don’t think Jacory isn’t capable of being, he’s just not doing it now and he’s not going to do as long as he keeps getting a free pass.
    ————————————————–
    Hey Truth, its all good.

  150. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    It’s just an opinion….right? Yeah …that’s what I thought.

  151. avatar
    The Truth says:

    But I thought you said the play calling was better Cav. Why would you call different plays that resulted in TD passes?

  152. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Truth,

    time to draw ! LOL

  153. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 24, 2010 at 2:52 PM
    We got, j12 on one side whipple on the other.

    cav, seriously, have you ever seen a qb under center with no runningbacks that many times on purpose.

    >>>>>>>>

    It’s the dumbest shyt I’ve ever seen. EVER. And he calls this shyt REPEATEDLY. He called it several times against Duke and it didn’t work ONCE. It came close once but Byrd and J12 were on the wrong page. He called it on 3rd and 4th down too. That’s why I said the Duke game looked like an experiment.

    I’ve seen it ONCE. ’99 Rams would run it but their original set would be a split backfield with Faulk and whoever. Then Warner would send one in motion to one side and the other in motion to the other side. He still had disguise and movement to keep the defense off-balance.

    If that’s the ONLY team to ever run that shyt it should tell you no college team has any business running it.

  154. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Please don’t ever take me seriously on here. A word is a word you know?

    I’m not as angry as it sounds. Just callin it like I see.

  155. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Jeez, moaning like we lost the game. We won. Is J12 the best qb in the universe? No. Does he need to bet better and stop making bad throws/decisions? Yes. But I saw improvement. From him and from the team. Is it going to be hard to win out to get to the ACCCG? Yes. Very hard. It’ll take a bunch more games like last night, but with better J12 plays and better Whip playcalling (more running, less of the useless empty backfield bs). But overall, BIG WIN, GREAT WIN, let’s savor it for a couple of days before we start ragging on everybody. Just a thought. Don’t ruin my high!!!!

    Love the quote from Indianacane. What a knuclehead. I thought I told the Randy haters to STFU. Guess he didn’t get the word.

    Haters gonna hate.

  156. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Time for a nap,

    When I wake up I’m sure the Dolphins will have settled for another field goal.

  157. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    …and T, not that I agree for everything you say, but balance is always a good thing. I got no problem with what you’re saying except that imho that’s better said later in the week. But you know I respect your opinion, whether I agree or don’t

  158. checking in . . . before tomorrow i check the f outta here with the family to explore some arthurian battlements or such in cornwall (my son just finished reading 4 books about this round table stuff); not to mention stonehenge

    first off – loved the article mike – well done!

    2nd – good points / debate from you all. i basically agree with most of you, though i often give up part of the way thru the long posts of calvin; sometimes cav too.

    3rd – much more fun to read after a win! particularly one in which mike is singlehandedly doing “the wave” on the blog . . . dude got me hyped.

  159. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Truth U are far from being a Shannon/12 hater for sure…I jus disagree with benching him at that point in the game for confidence sake…Hurrican Randy great points on earlier post…thing are never as GOOD/BAD as they seem, and the expectations we have compared to previous teams…but guess what they had flaws too…

  160. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    U think one misconception is that most think U have to have a GREAT QB to win a ship but the truth is U just need an EFFICIENT one…of all the teams that’s won one in the 2000s in cfb, only VY and tebow were considered great college qbs…

  161. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 3:08 PM
    But I thought you said the play calling was better Cav. Why would you call different plays that resulted in TD passes?

    >>>>>>>>

    Because it’s a stupid play. Because it works ONCE out of 40 times he’s run it means it’s a stupid, low-percentage play. Like I’ve said at least five times, if you want to run that play at least keep a RB in and send him in motion so the LBs have something to think about.

    The fade to Hankerson wasn’t too bad, although I’d either run it from an I-formation with play-fake or set up the shotgun play by running the ball a couple of times out of the shotgun, LIKE HE DID ON THE LAMAR MILLER RUN that was called back.

    But what’s funny to me is you don’t even give J12 the credit he deserves for that play. He looked off the safeties to the left before coming back to the right to find Hankerson one on one.

    THAT’S what made that play. The playcall itself was okay. Not great considering the field position and how well we’d run the ball but J12 actually rescued the average playcall.

    If I had been calling the play at that down and distance, I’d put Mike James/Miller and Berry in a split backfield, with Byrd and Hankerson and Cleveland/ TB in.

    Defense WOULD HAVE NO FUKIN CLUE WHAT WAS COMING. Are they running or throwing? To the WRs, RBs or TE???

    I could run or pass, play-action or shotgun, or play-action from the shotgun. I could shift to an I-formation or I could split out a RB and have four WRs. AND I COULD STILL RUN THE BALL.

    THAT’S how I would use the talent we have. It would be off the chain.

  162. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    Uncle!!

    Mercy!!!

    Please!!! Enjoy the win! :)

  163. anyone notice shannon got the game ball?

    now he doesn’t need that pillow he had on his xmas list

  164. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    autumn – what you’re doing is awesome, the whole arthur thing is an interesting topic – whether he actually even existed, or maybe was a Roman general. Love that stuff. You’re so lucky to be in Europe and able to soak all that in. Enjoy!

  165. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Nash

    I agree with with that and I’m not talking about sifting for a game. I’m taking about sitting him after that INT for a series…or 2 even.

    Something. Anything.

    It wasn’t just that he threw the pic, it’s that it was again a ridiculously easy read and he crapped the bed with it.

    I’m not into bashing players. If you knew what I really thought of the MLB you’d appreciate how upset I must be to make these statements about the QB.

    I don’t need jacory to the worlds greatest to be satisfied as a fan. But I do need him stop putting his team into terrible situations game after game after game.

  166. avatar
    The Truth says:

    So the only plays that are good are the ones you approve of? Gotcha! 😉

  167. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    “And I’m not saying I don’t think Jacory isn’t capable of being, he’s just not doing it now and he’s not going to do as long as he keeps getting a free pass.”

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    NOT DOING IT NOW???? Bro, did we see the same game? Did you see the stats? Maybe you missed them, I think Randy posted them above.

    FREE PASS?????? You mean like almost every other QB gets and continues to get when they make bonehead plays???

    Mallet, Ponder, Pryor, even Cutcliff’es QB gets a free pass., go down the list.

    Maybe it’s just a QB thing Truth. OR MAYBE IT’S BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO RIDE WITH QB’s IN WAYS YOU DON’T HAVE TO RIDE WITH OTHER PLAYERS.

    Or maybe it;s because when a QB makes a mistake EVERYONE SEES IT but when the MLB WHIFFS PLAY AFTER PLAY AFTER PLAY AFTER PLAY, no one talks about him getting a FREE PASS cause they don’t know he busted the play.

    And the craziest thing about your statement above is that AFTER THE INT J12 PLAYED A VERY GOOD GAME.

    So either you think you know more about our players and what makes them work than Shannon OR you just didn’t see the same game everyone else saw.

    Shannon’s method WORKED. Period. End of story.

  168. CanesCanesCanes
    October 24, 2010 at 3:26 PM
    autumn – You’re so lucky to be in Europe and able to soak all that in. Enjoy!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    exactly . . . after all these years it still hits me quite a lot, how glad (and lucky) i am to be here

    and yes – i'm enjoying it

  169. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Mark my words…IF whips run/pass ratio gets to 70/30, and all thing being equal THE CANES WIN OUT!!! j12 arm is going to be in a sling after the season from throw the ball 30 times a game lol…

  170. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 3:30 PM
    So the only plays that are good are the ones you approve of? Gotcha!

    >>>>>>>>

    Never said that or implied it. Mattafact, I call out the great calls as well as the shytty calls. Don’t believe me, check the blob.

    Don’t even think about trying that…lol

  171. Guys just because you don’t want to hear the negative (and its not all the time) doesn’t mean we want to hear your positive stuff ad nauseum either.

  172. pouncey pounced:

    “FUMBLE, recovered by Pit (Maurkice Pouncey).”

  173. avatar
    The Truth says:

    CCC

    That’s the thing…I’m going to be talking about this passed today. It was there live and in living color last night and I knew I was going to come on here and see a bunch of KaKa about the better play calling and Jacaory improved and blah blah blah.

    Jacory was awful in the first half. Then at some point in the 3rd qt the Tar heels has two frosh corners out there and suddenly TB and Jacory look great.

    It’s not real.

    TB should be dead right now and he probably would be if Jacory through that one high pass that TB ran in against ANY other team.

    I’m just sayin, don’t get too excited people. It’s not what it seems and I’m ticked that the HC didn’t put his foot down after that terrible decision that placed the ball inside his own twenty.

  174. cav, you not gone believe this man, but guess what i just saw, in the bear vs washington game, jay cutler under center, no backs, lol, no wonder he has all these interceptions as well, he’s thrown 2 today already, 1 for a touchdown off his back foot, you know why right, the defensive line pinned their ears back got in his face quick, plus a blitz and he tried to gun it out their, the offense martz is running requires a qb like kurt warner, a guy that gets it out of his hands quick. The bears were running the ball all the way down field, and that’s the thing about these pass happy oc’s, most of their redzone percentages are low.

    martz and whipple remind me of each other, to of the most arrogant brain freezers as oc’s.

  175. shwarma5
    October 24, 2010 at 3:35 PM
    Guys just because you don’t want to hear the negative (and its not all the time) doesn’t mean we want to hear your positive stuff ad nauseum either.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    lol
    (strains of "don't worry, be happy" drifting on the radio)

  176. Nashvillecane… great point about the qb in college just needing to be efficient.

    A 70/30 run to pass ratio is insane, your talking 50 carries and 20 pass attempts. Possible yes, but not very probable with Whipple.

  177. HELL NAW, i’m hurt dawg, bg &mmo1 said be positive, AND WE NOT DOING IT! The team put their heart into it last night, LET’S GO MAN!

  178. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Told y’all…….

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Shannon encouraged his players to stop second-guessing themselves and rediscover the spontaneity of the game. After Benjamin’s touchdown, he let himself go. He gave a chest-bump to Orlando Franklin.
    “He’s a laid-back guy,” Harris said. “He kind of came out of his shell. When you see your leader having fun, that electrifies the whole sideline.”

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/10/24/1888762/hurricanes-finally-are-having.html#ixzz13IykfhL0

  179. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Actually, my moan fest stops here.

    But I WILL tell you all I told you so soon enough if things don’t change…

  180. The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 3:40 PM
    Actually, my moan fest stops here.

    But I WILL tell you all I told you so soon enough if things don’t change…
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    ruthless truth
    lol

  181. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 24, 2010 at 3:37 PM
    cav, you not gone believe this man, but guess what i just saw, in the bear vs washington game, jay cutler under center, no backs, lol, no wonder he has all these interceptions as well, he’s thrown 2 today already, 1 for a touchdown off his back foot, you know why right, the defensive line pinned their ears back got in his face quick, plus a blitz and he tried to gun it out their, the offense martz is running requires a qb like kurt warner, a guy that gets it out of his hands quick. The bears were running the ball all the way down field, and that’s the thing about these pass happy oc’s, most of their redzone percentages are low.

    martz and whipple remind me of each other, to of the most arrogant brain freezers as oc’s.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Cal, LOL, THERE IT IS!!! Isn’t that EXACTLY the way we said we’d defend that shyt. lol

    But at least Martz has ACTUALLY WON SOMETHING AT A HIGH LEVEL. Whipple hasn’t won shyt. I’ll be surprised if Martz leaves that play in the book. I think he thought Cutlre could handle it but he can’t. Not many Warner’s out there.

    I told y’all Whipple thinks he’s running Air Coryell Air Martz. hahahahaha. That’s where he gets his ideas from. Problem is he doesn’t have multi-year NFL veterans at every position. You actually have to TEACH college players.

    But even in the NFL, you have to always be steps ahead of the defense and always be setting them up for plays down the road, maybe not until the end of the game.

    This game was Whipple’s real introduction to big time CFB playcalling. Let’s see if he can continue it and maybe even improve it.

  182. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 3:40 PM
    Actually, my moan fest stops here.

    But I WILL tell you all I told you so soon enough if things don’t change…

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Change to what???? You mean, us NOT running the ball and using play-action, something that makes J12 more confident and gets him in a groove??

    Or do you mean him just not playing well and Shannon deciding to NOT bench him because he knows the problem IS THE PLAYCALLING AND NOT THE PLAYER???

    Right now I don’t see anything that needs to change, so long as Whipple sticks to the fundamentals and deletes that idiotic play.

    There are a few formations and playcalls he needs to add.

    1) Split RB backfield with Miller/James and Berry.

    2) More running from the shotgun.

    These two would really make us unpredictable and open up all the things he’s been trying to do but didn’t have enough sense to know the running game is the foundation.

  183. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Truth: C’MON MAN!!!!

  184. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Jacory was awful in the first half. Then at some point in the 3rd qt the Tar heels has two frosh corners out there and suddenly TB and Jacory look great.

    It’s not real.

    TB should be dead right now and he probably would be if Jacory through that one high pass that TB ran in against ANY other team.

    I’m just sayin, don’t get too excited people. It’s not what it seems and I’m ticked that the HC didn’t put his foot down after that terrible decision that placed the ball inside his own twenty.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    You can’t see anything but the CBs. lol Too funny.

    That and you think he should be benched. lol Way too funny.

  185. cav, the same problem the bears offense is having is the same problem our offense is having when we go to that formation, although it was a bs call, the bears got called for holding, why, because the d-line teed off with that formation, the only difference is, martz runs with 4 wide-outs, or maybe that’s greg olsen split out wide which is stupid because now all he did was draw a quicker db instead of the traditional linebacker where the mismatch really occurs.

    cav, you hit the nail on the head with that 1, just watching that game, the thing about that offense, how many hall of famers does it take wto work at the pro level, lol, isaac bruce, terry holt, more than likely hall of famers, orlando pace, more than like a hall of famer, marshall, definitely, kurt warner, more than likely now after taking arizona to the superbowl. Than when you throw in guys like az hakim and the crew, so you bringing that same type of offense to the college ranks where players are just learning how to read defenses, that offense works well wit ha arean league qb like kurt warner, and a tom brady type, but not wit ha guy just coming from the west or any other highschool. Hell whipple didn’t even run this offense at Umass, so where has he ever run it at and got great results.

  186. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    I understand, truth, but can’t we just have a day, Cap’n Buzzkill.

  187. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Dz u right reguarding whip and the prob not happenin…I know the score of game dictates alot of run/pass, but IMO gots to get pass attempts under 30…hell look at it like this…the less j12 throw the less likely he is to throw multi picks…lol

  188. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    CCC, this shyt is funny at this point. We beatdown UNC and he’s talking about it’s a mirage cause they have two frosh CBs in the game. ”

    Meanwhile, we ran the ball down their throats and used play-action to make the important plays.

    Those TDs came as a result of the running and play-action.

    And of course J12 looking off the safeties on consecutive throws MEANS NOTHING cause Shannon should’ve benched him in the 1st Q.

    LMAO!!!!!

  189. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Nashvillecane
    October 24, 2010 at 3:57 PM
    Dz u right reguarding whip and the prob not happenin…I know the score of game dictates alot of run/pass, but IMO gots to get pass attempts under 30…hell look at it like this…the less j12 throw the less likely he is to throw multi picks…lol

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT SHANNON KNOWS. lol

    Seriously. You have a QB who has talent but he doesn’t have a rocket arm and has grown fond of the long ball.

    Your OC, instead of reigning him in with short and medium range routes is always giving him long ball options.

    If you’re the HC what do you do??

    A) Blame it on the players for not EXECUTING???

    B) Tell the OC to run the damn ball and use play action.

    Shannon, after letting Whipple play around at Duke with all these stupid formations and half-brain playcalling sequences, and the beginning of another stupid round playcalling FINALLY PUT A STOP TO IT and we see the results.

  190. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 24, 2010 at 3:58 PM

    CCC, this shyt is funny at this point. We beatdown UNC and he’s talking about it’s a mirage cause they have two frosh CBs in the game. ”

    Meanwhile, we ran the ball down their throats and used play-action to make the important plays.

    Those TDs came as a result of the running and play-action.

    And of course J12 looking off the safeties on consecutive throws MEANS NOTHING cause Shannon should’ve benched him in the 1st Q.

    LMAO!!!!!
    ———————————————————————

    Cav you better stop!

  191. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, exactly. Martz’s ’99-2001 offense will probably never be duplicated cause it’s so hard to get all those parts together at the same time. Similar to our 2001 team. And in his system YOU GOTTA HAVE THE RIGHT PLAYERS.

    Whipple is thoroughly inflated in his estimation of his skill as a playcaller. I mean ridiculously inflated.

    I remember being worried about whether he would stay or not. Now I couldn’t give a rat’s azz if he stays or how long.

    I’d almost rather he leave so Shannon could bring in someone who really understands the running game, motion and multiple sets and formations, like UNC’s OC, for instance. hahaha

  192. damn . . . 23-22 pitt over miami

  193. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, Truth knows I love him but this shyt today is COMICAL!!!!!!

  194. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Autumn, effin Steelers. They’re good. Bloody good, as those corn-ball Brits say. lol

  195. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 24, 2010 at 4:04 PM

    Seriously. You have a QB who has talent but he doesn’t have a rocket arm and has grown fond of the long ball.

    Your OC, instead of reigning him in with short and medium range routes is always giving him long ball options.

    If you’re the HC what do you do??

    A) Blame it on the players for not EXECUTING???

    B) Tell the OC to run the damn ball and use play action.

    Shannon, after letting Whipple play around at Duke with all these stupid formations and half-brain playcalling sequences, and the beginning of another stupid round playcalling FINALLY PUT A STOP TO IT and we see the results.
    ——————————————-
    Cav, how did Whipple come to the conclusion that he has to call more short and intermediate routes, establish the run and call more play action isnt important to me. I am just glad he came to that realization that he is calling plays that dont suit his QB’s strengths.

    But give me yesterday’s J-12, Whipple’s play calling, o-line run blocking and the WRs catching the ball for the rest of the season and we win out easy!

  196. cav, here is the real deal, and maybe this will shed some extra light on the situation as well. That type of offense is interception prone, of course if you’re sending that many wide receivers out in routes, somebody is going to be open at some point, but who, so it’s asking the qb to make the right decision every time, it’s puts all the stress on the qb. This is what jacory is being asked to do atthe college level, no if, ands or buts.

    So let’s take it to the pro game, that same offense was run by the rams like cav has been saying all along, and where this offense comes from, livke cav has been pointing out, but here is the real stat that has to be revealed.

    The year that the rams won the superbowl, as high powered as that offense was, how many interceptions did kurt warner throw that year, if i’m not mistaken he led the league in touchdown passes and interceptions in the same year. That offense causes qb’s to throw alot of interceptions because of the stress it puts on qb’s, jay cutler never threw this many interception in denver, now he throws 4 interceptions to one man, lol. The same bad tendecies you jacory harris doing are same bad tendecies that kurt warner and jay cutler are repeating under this offense. Why because when a defensive line tees off, the qb already knows their is no back in the backfield to help pick up a block.

    cav, 1 year kurt warner threw 21 touchdowns, and 18 interceptions, and another year 36 touchdowns and 22 interceptions, this offense is a turn-over prone offense, if kurt warner was turning it over like that, how can a kid from Miami, who always did good protecting the ball in highschool, and now all of a sudden, just become some turn-over prone qb, it’s that system, jay cutler is running it now, and look at the results.

  197. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Is it time to say the Dolphins season is over?

  198. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, I think Shannon told him, “We’re going to run the ball.”

    Maybe not. But we all know Whipple’s first inclination is to pass, pass, pass.

    And LAST BUT NOT LEAST BUTCH DAVIS HIMSELF TELLS WHY WE BEAT THEM…….

    “I thing we lost to a pretty good football team tonight – one that’s got a lot of talent and played well. I thought that one of the most significant factors in the ballgame was we never ever really got a real good handle on the running game. They were able to really kind of keep us off balance with the run and the play action pass. They played well and I thought our kids got off to a good start. We had a chance to play a little bit better early in the game to put some points on the board when Anthony Elzy, unfortunately, fumbled in the end zone. It could have been a huge big play. Obviously, one of the formulas for playing against Miami is to try to take the run away by keeping the score to such that it makes them have to play a little bit more pass oriented and a little bit less run oriented. They’re a good football team. I was proud of the way our kids competed, the way that they played and we will learn something from tonight’s game and we will play better next week.”

    >>>>>>>>

  199. So good to see Ed Reed back in the field!

  200. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And a thought or two about those JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL CBs WHO WERE JUST WORTHLESS LAST NIGHT……FROM A UNC PLAYER..

    Deunta Williams

    On missing starters this game:
    “Well I think it was obvious they tried to pick on us in the secondary tonight. But at the same time, we haven’t had Kendrick or C.B. all year. So it wasn’t like that was anything new for us. We were just down one corner and we have young guys that can play. I was telling them how when we were freshmen we would get picked on too. The only way to get them to stop picking on you is to make them go away from you. We encourage them…[and they] just need to go out and play.”

  201. cav, the one common denominator of don c’s offense and what mike martz and all those guys who ran/run different variations of it, all the qb’s in that system had alot of interceptiosn, dan fouts included, and than the main thing that that offense does, it mentally drains the qb, so by the 4th quarter, they’ll just heave one up their, and that’s how kurt warner and them got to the superbowl, on 4th down, warren sapp and them were killing the rams, and on 4th down, kurt warners heaves a pass to the endzone and the receiver beat brian kelly and caught it, other than that, tampa bay had shut that offense down using cover 2 all game long, they had kurt confused.

  202. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Cav, i am really excited about the way the offensive line is coming along.

    There is no reason Berry and Miller shouldn’t get 150+ yds combine the next 2 games.

  203. Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    October 24, 2010 at 4:17 PM
    Bahama, I think Shannon told him, “We’re going to run the ball.”

    Maybe not. But we all know Whipple’s first inclination is to pass, pass, pass.

    And LAST BUT NOT LEAST BUTCH DAVIS HIMSELF TELLS WHY WE BEAT THEM…….

    “I thing we lost to a pretty good football team tonight – one that’s got a lot of talent and played well. I thought that one of the most significant factors in the ballgame was we never ever really got a real good handle on the running game. They were able to really kind of keep us off balance with the run and the play action pass. They played well and I thought our kids got off to a good start. We had a chance to play a little bit better early in the game to put some points on the board when Anthony Elzy, unfortunately, fumbled in the end zone. It could have been a huge big play. Obviously, one of the formulas for playing against Miami is to try to take the run away by keeping the score to such that it makes them have to play a little bit more pass oriented and a little bit less run oriented. They’re a good football team. I was proud of the way our kids competed, the way that they played and we will learn something from tonight’s game and we will play better next week.”

    >>>>>>>>

    lol

  204. henning getting blasted on the dolphins blog.
    cav, this one’s for you:

    “Very disappointing play calls. On 3 and 2, instead of lining up under center and having a myriad of options (including play action if they really wanted to throw), they go shot gun, then 3 and 1 and line up under center for a poorly designed run! Then, on several other third and shorts in the 4th, line up under center for short passes, no use of the TE.

    Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/dolphins_in_depth/2010/10/dolphins-lose-to-steelers-23-22-in-another-home-loss.html#ixzz13JHEORoS

  205. Ravens’ D has really been asleep in the second half of the last two games. Disturbing.

    I want to see Ray Lewis knock some b!tches out!

    Grrrrrrr!!!

  206. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    JSQ, did you read my post about the tailgating videos?

  207. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The year that the rams won the superbowl, as high powered as that offense was, how many interceptions did kurt warner throw that year, if i’m not mistaken he led the league in touchdown passes and interceptions in the same year. That offense causes qb’s to throw alot of interceptions because of the stress it puts on qb’s, jay cutler never threw this many interception in denver, now he throws 4 interceptions to one man, lol. The same bad tendecies you jacory harris doing are same bad tendecies that kurt warner and jay cutler are repeating under this offense. Why because when a defensive line tees off, the qb already knows their is no back in the backfield to help pick up a block.

    cav, 1 year kurt warner threw 21 touchdowns, and 18 interceptions, and another year 36 touchdowns and 22 interceptions, this offense is a turn-over prone offense, if kurt warner was turning it over like that, how can a kid from Miami, who always did good protecting the ball in highschool, and now all of a sudden, just become some turn-over prone qb, it’s that system, jay cutler is running it now, and look at the results.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Cal, haha, THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS. But no, according to some people it’s the HC who won’t bench and discipline the QB.

    Funny you should bring up that fact on the heels of this win, cause in the ’99 NFC playoff game against the Vikings, Madden and Summerall were talking about how many INTs the Rams throw.

    Sure enough after two quick TDs, one on the first play for the Rams, and another on the next drive, a long catch and run by Faulk, Mike Martz dialed up another long ball and this one was picked off.

    Vermeil goes into the half and comes out and said, “We got away from our fundamentals a little, we got away from the running game.”

    So Martz turns it down a notch, runs the ball from multiple sets, throws the ball short to medium routes, and goes on to route the Vikings 35-17 or something.

    Shannon did exactly what Vermeil did.

  208. If we don’t rush the ball more than 45 times a game, they need to take whipple to the stockade. No way we should have lost to osu. This offense is not fair to j12, unless we run it like we did last night, that offense martz is running, while it gets wide-outs excited, it can’t get o-lines excited, how mamy times do they have to block d-linemen who know exactly that all they have to do is go get the qb. Like i said, we get don sildinger in here as the oc, i’m not sure about the passing attack and how that’ll look, but i do know we will run the ball, use the run to set up the pass, and vice versa from time to time.

  209. Hey, Bahama, I saw that. I have no idea how to do that. Esteban, weren’t you talking about that over the summer? Can your brother make it over to VA Tech or USF? Those will be good tailgates. Maryland will be pretty tame I think since it will likely be a nooner. There’s only so many dozen jello shots one can have at 7am. Or so I’ve been told…

  210. That offense is high risk high reward, the one good thing about it, it won’t allow you to go into a shell sort of speak, but let’s get away from running all those pass routes, i’m sure if you go and look at the receivers that came open with warner at qb, but who’s taking into account the d-linemen that was breaking free that forced the pass to have to come out.

  211. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    If Whipple just accepts the fact that the team has to commit to the run to be successful and schemes accordingly, he will be a good OC.

    If what we saw yesterday was the beginning of Whipple Ball 2.0, only injuries can keep this team from running the table!

  212. Oh I forgot that Truth has this little camera that can take short videos and can upload them. T, do you still have that? The one you used at the Floriduh baseball game? Can you bring it to the next game?

  213. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    JSQ says:
    October 24, 2010 at 4:29 PM

    Hey, Bahama, I saw that. I have no idea how to do that. Esteban, weren’t you talking about that over the summer? Can your brother make it over to VA Tech or USF? Those will be good tailgates. Maryland will be pretty tame I think since it will likely be a nooner. There’s only so many dozen jello shots one can have at 7am. Or so I’ve been told…
    ————————————————
    That would be awesome if you guys can figure something out.

  214. Asked if there is a sense of relief after going through a tough stretch the last couple of weeks, Shannon said, “It ain’t going to change. There’s going to be someone tomorrow that says something negative, so it doesn’t make a difference. It’s not a relief. It’s just the way it is in Miami. You have to move on. I don’t pay attention to radio shows, don’t read the newspaper. ESPN doesn’t come on TV when I watch it because I’m going to watch Law & Order if I watch anything, or NCIS. There’s always going to be critics out there. Whatever you write, I never read it.”

    Here’s what else Shannon was talking about:

    Q: You seemed as animated as you’ve been.

    Shannon: The last two weeks I have been really animated. I see the team start to understand and change. I don’t know what happened in the team meeting, but Antrel might have said the point that `Hey, coach wants to have fun. He’s always a coach that’s had fun with his players. The things he’s demanded is things he demanded (from us) as a defense when he was defensive coordinator.’ The last two weeks I’ve been in the mood of seeing the change in our team ever since the Florida State game in practice. I’ve been having fun with them in practice and it carried over to the game. The more you see development the more you can be what you want to be.

    Q: Did you invite Antrel and Eric?

    Shannon: No. They come on their own. They pop up. Ex players who have been gone five, six, seven years come back, hang around practice, speak to the team. Every night we have guest speakers. Darrin Smith spoke this week. Jim Burt when we played Clemson, Jim Burt spoke the night before the game. Not about the University of Miami, just something that happened in their life that got them going in the right direction.

  215. Sidenote: Coconut water is the best thing ever. I went from sleepy and parched (which doesn’t make sense since I had plenty of beverages last night!) to peppy and feeling great! Thanks for telling me about it, Rejuvaphan. And P.S., I have passed out your card to some friends. Hope to see you at another tailgate soon!!!

  216. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Word on my two kids, I’ve never seen a team get away with more bullsh!t, bogus-ass calls than Pittsburgh.
    I know we shoulda had TDs instead of FGs, but fukk that…….YOU CAN’T DETERMINE WHO RECOVERED THE BALL?!?!?!?!?!?

    HOW ABOUT THE GUY WITH THE BIG-ASS DOLPHIN ON HIS HAT, HOLDING UP THE AFOREMENTIONED BALL, YOU BLIND, GREASY-POCKETED F@GGOTS!!!!!!

  217. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Autumn, that’s not on henne, that’s on the OC and then the HC, who really is over his head.

    But in the NFL against Pittsburgh’s D, you really, really have to execute and disguise EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME.

  218. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Nice summary by butch…btw one team I like to watch offensively is bama, they NEVER stray from they’re running game, and I know #22/3 are a cut above the three head um had and their ol is better BUT no matter the score the still RUN THE FOOTBALL NO MATTER THE SCORE…in thr ark game they down doub digtz and they still pounding the rock and shallows crosses and bfore u know it they got the game running out the clock…IMO whips gotta get away from his Philly mentality to his Pitt mentality

  219. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Elaborate on the coconut h20 – I think I need some. No suprise you were parched, though, since alcohol dehydrates like hell

  220. To make you all smile on something we can all agree on: our hate for the crocs.

    One week from now, the crocs will be .50 after their loss to UGA. Simply heart-warming.

    Sic ’em Dawgs!!!!!!

  221. Cubed it is like an all natural powerade. I drank 2 glasses and I’m good as new!

  222. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, that’s good infor right there.

    If y’all want to see a funny press conference from the NFL, check out Mike Tomlin’s recent presser. It’s funny.

    http://www.steelers.com/video-and-audio/videos/Greatness-on-the-road-Are-the-Steelers-the-best/ca372d50-9ba1-49bc-88ba-17c1ca5ce2ed#?id=a51f1304-b2aa-4220-bec8-221d315512f0

  223. Spinning is also great to beat a hangover. You want to shoot yourself for the first 30 minutes but it is te fastest way to et the toxins out and you just chug like 3 liters of water during the class. Didn’t make it this morning, though. We stayed at the stadium with KL and family (I was preaching to the already converted KL Jr about what a great place UM is to go to school!), so the 9am spin class got scrapped in favor of bed!!!

  224. Uh oh, lock up your puppies, Hurriphin is mad!!!

  225. Even if greg little was their or pinalto, this game would’ve been a dog fight, these guys on defense are not laying down to anybody. shannon has this program going in the right direction.

    No team has done to unc what we did to them this year. if we can get buchannon to play up to his ability, this defense will even be that much tuffer.
    shannon just has to say from here on out, we’re going to run a power offense that can pass the ball, you’ll see the difference that approach makes as the season progresses.

  226. Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    October 24, 2010 at 4:45 PM
    Autumn, that’s not on henne, that’s on the OC and then the HC, who really is over his head.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<

    cav – not henne; henning, who is their OC . . . or maybe i've got his name wrong and someone else can come up with it

  227. JSQ
    October 24, 2010 at 4:56 PM
    Uh oh, lock up your puppies, Hurriphin is mad!!!
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    cue to the jingle
    "hush puppies are fuuuuuuuun"
    don't ask

  228. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Heeeeeeeeeeeeeere Sebastian……..

    (kiss, kiss, kiss)

  229. Ruthless Truth – one thing you’re forgetting with all this “sit jacory” stuff:

    the dude sits on the pine, the pine has a large splinter, next thing you know it’s “lower extremity injury”.

    careful what you wish for

  230. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Where’s CANEZ1?

  231. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Nash, that’s very true about Bama. And the reason they don’t is because their QB isn’t Dan Marino and because running the ball well always keeps the defense off-balance.

    But honestly, if Whipple really wants to run Air Martz, HE SHOULD REALLY STUDY MART’Z FORMATIONS, playcalls, down and distance, and what was most successful in them.

    Martz almost always had a RB in the backfield and the QB under center. I don’t think he ever used the shotgun with that team. Why??? Cause the shotgun gives way almost everything to the defense and in the NFL disguise is absolutely critical.

  232. yes, it’s late here and i should be in bed.

    g’night.

    mike – good nap?

  233. Hurriphin
    October 24, 2010 at 5:17 PM
    Where’s CANEZ1?
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    just saw that – question of the day.

  234. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH10) says:

    Just got back from the Fins game. That was the absolute most ridiculous call I’ve ever seen.

    As far as the Canes go, I can’t believe some of the nitpicking that’s still going on. We were one play from pitching a defensive TD shutout and the offense looked balanced and sharp. And I don’t give a chit about NC’s injuries. When we were down to no one on the d-line and linebacking corps at the end of last season no one seemed to care. They just noticed Wisconsin whooped our azzes.

    Injuries happen and everyone has to live with that. Last night it was Butch’s turn.

    Outscored them 30-0 to close it out. I’ll take that all day long.

    Go Canes!!

  235. say it again pb, about the Canes that is, but whenever UM wins, it doesn’t matter to me if the dolphins win or lose.

  236. pb –
    what does “EOTHROH10” mean?

  237. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 24, 2010 at 4:21 PM
    cav, the one common denominator of don c’s offense and what mike martz and all those guys who ran/run different variations of it, all the qb’s in that system had alot of interceptiosn, dan fouts included, and than the main thing that that offense does, it mentally drains the qb, so by the 4th quarter, they’ll just heave one up their, and that’s how kurt warner and them got to the superbowl, on 4th down, warren sapp and them were killing the rams, and on 4th down, kurt warners heaves a pass to the endzone and the receiver beat brian kelly and caught it, other than that, tampa bay had shut that offense down using cover 2 all game long, they had kurt confused.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Yeah, that Tampa D was a kryptonite for Martz’s O cause they could shut down the run and handle the pass.

    But it does wear down the QB mainly because Mart’s solution is to pass more, and every time you throw more balls in that system the odds of INTs and mistakes increases.

  238. Knowing Canez 1, he treated yesterday like the movie theaters, he just stayed in the stadium to watch the dolphins play today so he wouldn’t have to pay twice.

  239. DAMN it feels good to see some fing FIRE in our guys again!

    not hating this week–to the coaching staff—WELL DONE

  240. cav, over dan fouts 14 year career, do you know he threw for 20 or more interceptions in 5 different seasons.
    Than 5 different seasons he threw for 15 or more.
    In fact dan fouts only had 1 year where he threw for under double digit interceptions, he threw only 6 interceptions 1 year, in that same year, he only played 4 games.

    In the kurt warner/st. louis good years, kurt warner threw and average of 16 interceptions a season.

  241. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Calvin……

    THAT’S THAT HOOD MAGIC, MY DUDE!!!

  242. So with that being said, jacory is right on track for interceptions in that offense, he’s in good company for guys with a turn-over ratio in that system.

  243. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    cav – not henne; henning, who is their OC . . . or maybe i’ve got his name wrong and someone else can come up with it

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Gotcha.

  244. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Whipple Ball 2.0 will be the best thing for this offense and Mark Whipple.

  245. avatar
    HearAcane says:

    The first game since the early 2000’s, when sitting in the stands, it felt like I was watching a CANES game. Good energy on the field and in the stands………this one game was worth the price of season tickets….GO CAMES

  246. Hurricane Alley with bg1906 and Esteban in 10 mins!

  247. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    For those of you waiting for Canez1, let me give you my best Canez imitation:

    That full moon made shytes wild at the game!!

    Big Game Blandy finally lucked into one!!

    That means we’re still on schedule for the 15 year rebuilding schedule under fuhrer randy

    We’re still irrelevant. That’s progress?

    Pffffft

    F it at least we beat these light blue bishes.

    F IT, didn’t waste a trip down!

    GO CANEZ!!!!

  248. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    HearACane AMEN to that!!!

  249. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    October 24, 2010 at 5:34 PM
    cav, over dan fouts 14 year career, do you know he threw for 20 or more interceptions in 5 different seasons.
    Than 5 different seasons he threw for 15 or more.
    In fact dan fouts only had 1 year where he threw for under double digit interceptions, he threw only 6 interceptions 1 year, in that same year, he only played 4 games.

    In the kurt warner/st. louis good years, kurt warner threw and average of 16 interceptions a season.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    And like you said, J12 is right on course but that course is about to be brought to an abrupt halt by the Head Man in Charge. lol

  250. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    CanesCanesCanes
    October 24, 2010 at 5:50 PM
    For those of you waiting for Canez1, let me give you my best Canez imitation:

    That full moon made shytes wild at the game!!

    Big Game Blandy finally lucked into one!!

    That means we’re still on schedule for the 15 year rebuilding schedule under fuhrer randy

    We’re still irrelevant. That’s progress?

    Pffffft

    F it at least we beat these light blue bishes.

    F IT, didn’t waste a trip down!

    GO CANEZ!!!!

    >>>>>>>>

    LMAO!!!! EXCELLENT!

  251. By the way, who’s to say those same throws won’t work against better cb’s, it’s not like we got garbage wide-outs, as long as our receivers continue to attack the ball, and jacory, that throw to leonard hankerson in one on one coverage, when it the last time besides travis benjamin have we seen that, one of our receivers isolated.
    —————————

    AMEN AMEN!

  252. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    I wonder if New Orleans Saints HC considered benching Drew Breeze today?

  253. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Randy, Brees has thrown 10 INTs this year. He threw 11 all of last year. Hmmmm

    Did anyone who was at the game remember when the players basically ordered Whipple to run the ball more???

  254. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    More on those helpless lambs playing CB for UNC….

    >>>>>>>>>

    Harris, plagued all season by turnovers and inaccuracy, overcame a first-quarter interception by completing 21 of 32 passes for 217 yards against a North Carolina pass defense that was ranked second in the ACC entering the game.

  255. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Capt,

    I like my spelling of his name better. LOL

  256. Thanks for the support guys. Sorry for the technical difficulty at the beginning the intro track stopped playing. Ha!

  257. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    C3 good imitation of c1, lol…cav didn’t know that bout the unc d??? Btw here’s to Ryan Hill taking a chance and jumping a route that caused ray buchs pick aight!!!

  258. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Two first year freshman on the o-line, Linder and Henderson, true freshman tight end, true freshman on special teams, who did Tyrone C. bloody last night? Jermaine Johnson and Lamar Miller red shirt freshman. The argument about UNC playing freshman corners doesn’t hold water, the U played true freshman as well.

  259. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Kelvin Cain true freshman on special teams, and a few snaps on D.

  260. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Here’s a little piece of awesome……

    That ref that called that ol punk sh!t, is from Washington, PA…….A city about 20 miles outside of a little town named Pittsburgh.

  261. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Hurricane Randy
    October 24, 2010 at 6:46 PM
    Capt,

    I like my spelling of his name better. LOL

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Haha, it is better come to think of it.

    Good points about the true frosh. But the deeper point is, if Butch is such a great recruiter why does he have a bunch of true frosh backing up seniors?? But more importantly, how many of those frosh were on offense?? None on the OL, like ours.

    Nash, yeah, I didn’t know their D was #2 in the conference against the pass either. But they’re just helpless little lambs out there anyway. haha

  262. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    bg – looks like the boss got some hang-time on that one. btw, good job to both you and este – you guys play well off each other.

  263. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Hurriphin
    October 24, 2010 at 7:01 PM
    Here’s a little piece of awesome……

    That ref that called that ol punk sh!t, is from Washington, PA…….A city about 20 miles outside of a little town named Pittsburgh.

    >>>>>>>>

    Hurri is PIZZED…..STILL. haha

  264. Cx3.

    Thanks man. We appreciate it.

  265. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    JSQ – this should make you happy. Oakland just laid almost 60 on that wackjob coach Josh McDaniels so of course the turds are up in arms saying he should start Tebow, etc. Tebow will eventually play and be exposed as an NFL fraud, McDaniels will be fired (for losing of course, but also for being the only moron head coach in the NFL to draft Teabag before the fourth round)….oh, and they’re losing to the dawgs next week. Health care professionals will be standing by with heavy doses of tranquilizers to dart Urban before he hurts himself.

  266. Honestly, we owe the refs for that game because UNC had just scored that long run and went up 10-3. Eduardo Clements clearly fumbled that ball on the ensuing kickoff and it was visible for everyone to see on the replay. Maybe he recovered it… But that was a little crazy and /i felt we came out lucky..

    Maybe i’m wrong…

  267. I can’t believe the call against the Dolphins either, Hurri

    The whole play was bungled

  268. Uchamps, you’re right.

    Clements clearly fumbled. It was a bad call

  269. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Ok wait….

    Guys, WTF does Miami playing freshmen have to do with the fact that UNC had to play freshmen corners that were clearly overmatched?

    Wait…

    Normally that’d be fine with me – you win or die with what’s on your roster – but my point has NOTHING to do with the score.

    My point is there’s semi stiffy enducing euphoria over the 3 tds and 1 int performance of our QB. Except our QB wasn’t so sharp against the regulars I’m the first half. He didn’t start playing well UNTIL he was marched up with those kids that couldn’t cover.

    Jacory didn’t play any better than he did against the other teams on this schedule. He just benefitted from playing against kids that normally wouldn’t have seen the field.

    He didn’t improve. Hrs still the same QB which is fine. My whole thing was after he threw that pic he shouldve been benched for a bit. Just like figs is when he gives up a sack or ray ray is when he freelances too much.

    And it’s insult to injury to see jacory pad his stats against scrubs to make it look as if “learned from his mistake”

  270. Great show bg and Esteban!

  271. He didn’t improve. Hrs still the same QB which is fine. My whole thing was after he threw that pic he shouldve been benched for a bit. Just like figs is when he gives up a sack or ray ray is when he freelances too much.

    And it’s insult to injury to see jacory pad his stats against scrubs to make it look as if “learned from his mistake”

    ———————

    Damn, i can dig that man. Good Assessment.

  272. I love it, Cubed.

    But I will not be satisfied until Floriduh’s program gets the death penalty, Louis Murphy admits on camera that we are the real []_[], Urban Liar tells everyone he is a fraud, Saint Timmy is flipping burgers for a living, and every mean croc fan dons orange and green and bows down to our greatness.

    Then, I will have peace.

    Until then,

    SICK ‘EM DAWGS!!!!

    GRRR!!!

  273. avatar
    The Truth says:

    “the way, who’s to say those same throws won’t work against better cb’s, it’s not like we got garbage wide-outs, as long as our receivers continue to attack the ball, and jacory, that”

    Because those throws have NOT worked all year. They get picked.

  274. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, here’s that VT pass defense’s standings in the ACC thus far….

    PASS DEFENSE G Comp Att Int Pct. Yards Avg. TD Avg/G
    1. Miami 7 90 182 14 49.5 1044 5.7 3 149.1
    2. Virginia 7 95 160 5 59.4 1158 7.2 7 165.4
    3. North Carolina 7 129 214 12 60.3 1282 6.0 9 183.1
    4. Georgia Tech 8 140 237 6 59.1 1536 6.5 8 192.0
    5. Clemson 7 108 214 11 50.5 1369 6.4 12 195.6
    6. Virginia Tech 8 132 272 10 48.5 1603 5.9 12 200.4
    7. Maryland 7 121 236 9 51.3 1403 5.9 8 200.4
    8. NC State 7 111 205 7 54.1 1414 6.9 12 202.0
    9. Florida State 7 136 245 6 55.5 1423 5.8 7 203.3
    10. Boston College 7 178 276 11 64.5 1614 5.8 12 230.6
    11. Duke 7 101 189 5 53.4 1674 8.9 15 239.1
    12. Wake Forest 7 139 228 5 61.0 1704 7.5 20 243.4

    INTERCEPTIONS G No. Yards TD Avg.
    1. Miami 7 14 142 2 10.1
    2. North Carolina 7 12 204 2 17.0
    3. Boston College 7 11 231 2 21.0
    4. Clemson 7 11 137 1 12.5
    5. Virginia Tech 8 10 179 1 17.9
    6. Maryland 7 9 80 1 8.9
    7. NC State 7 7 156 2 22.3
    8. Georgia Tech 8 6 122 1 20.3
    9. Florida State 7 6 45 0 7.5
    10. Duke 7 5 28 0 5.6
    11. Virginia 7 5 80 0 16.0
    12. Wake Forest 7 5 73 1 14.6

  275. avatar
    The Truth says:

    LOL Autumn

    A splinter is a splinter

  276. But they only get picked when UM receivers DON’T fight for the ball! If they fight for the ball and protect the QB even on the ugly ones we will be fine. And with this crop of Wr’s it isn’t asking too much of them since they should be maximizing their potential on every play.

  277. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    October 24, 2010 at 7:55 PM
    “the way, who’s to say those same throws won’t work against better cb’s, it’s not like we got garbage wide-outs, as long as our receivers continue to attack the ball, and jacory, that”

    Because those throws have NOT worked all year. They get picked.

    >>>>>>>>>

    No, those throws haven’t been picked off. J12’s picks weren’t the one on one throws to WRs. They were either overthrows or throws into double coverage or just coverage. I don’t think he’s thrown an INT against one on one coverage. Maybe I’m forgetting one but there’s a pattern.

    The throws that worked last night against those CBs he’s thrown all year and completed. The LONE exception is that idiotic empty backfield, J12 under center. Whipple has run that idiotic play at least 20 times and complete the ball TWICE. What’s worse is that Whipple calls that stupid play on 3rd downs, sometimes 4th downs.

  278. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Seriously,

    Mike……Cap’n……

    Has that call ever been made before? EVER?!?

    Tell me they didn’t make that one up, on the spot.

    Our guy HANDED THE REF THE BALL. HOW MUCH MORE CONVINCING DO YOU NEED THAT WE CAME UP WITH IT, YOU SCREWBALLS?!?!?!?!?

  279. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Canes Crack BCS, coming in at #22

  280. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Did truth suddenly turn in to canez1?? (jk) lol…btw something to ponder for the whole crew…did U realize the the canes have been/will be favored in everygame but ONE this season…but ppl all over ( me included) question this if this staff/team is??

  281. Just got home still feel positive but I guess I am the minority….sigh!

    Raiders put up some numbers on saint timmy’s new team….so bad and Broncos still did not put him the game, says volumes!

    Steelers stole another game, thanks Roger for making sure the NFL still makes some cash….just disgusting.

    GO CANES!!

  282. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Bosie St weak schedule is going to bite them in the bud!

  283. Good for Auburn. Just sent a congratulations text to Jenni. She thought they were going to have a tough season after week 2!

  284. Canechic, I’m positive!

    We have our issues, yes, but every team does.

    I am really proud of VT and excited about the energy last night.

    We are going to be okay.

    I even got a call from a Nole friend today saying that’s one step closer to a rematch and they don’t want to play us again.

    We have a lot to be positive about.

    Here’s to being 8-2 when the Hokies come to town!

    GO ‘CANES!!!!

  285. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Auburn is not the #1 team in college football, but the way the season is going, they probably will get beat on Saturday!

  286. At this point in the season, if Auburn isn’t the number one team then there isn’t a number one team!

  287. I’m happy for Auburn. I am happy for my friend. I am happy for everyone who is not a criminole, croc or suckeye. Gotta save the hate for those degenerate bastards!

    But yes, the way things are going, No. 1 is starting to be a curse!

  288. But it’s still a problem I wish WE had!

  289. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    ^^^^ the ducks are the best team I’ve seem all year^^^

  290. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Jacory didn’t play any better than he did against the other teams on this schedule. He just benefitted from playing against kids that normally wouldn’t have seen the field.

    He didn’t improve. Hrs still the same QB which is fine. My whole thing was after he threw that pic he shouldve been benched for a bit. Just like figs is when he gives up a sack or ray ray is when he freelances too much.

    And it’s insult to injury to see jacory pad his stats against scrubs to make it look as if “learned from his mistake”

    >>>>>>>>>

    Or like C-mac when he whiffs tackle, after tackled after tackle…..lol

  291. here is what i do know, Canes football has always been pedicated on good strong defense, and efficient offenses, the way the defense played last night, i don’t care who was out their, they would’ve had to bring it. That’s why i said before the season, if we can get the mlb to play up to sharpton’s level this defense would be that much better. That’s part of why we’ve been giving up alot of these long runs, we’re basically playing with 10 men on defense out their alot of plays.

    Here is why i don’t buy that unc freshmen corner crap. In the 1st quarter, travis benjamin burnt searcy just like he was a freshmen, so that put the fear into them, so they were playing not to get beat deep. Now, with the wind blowing like it was, that’s what helped us to start throwing those short routes as well. We’ll see as the season goes on about jacory, but if we run the ball and throw mostly short passes like we did saturday, it’s not going to matter so much as to who we play, they’re going to have a hard time stopping us or they’ll get caught in 1 on 1 coverage as well.

    The deep ball ain’t going nowhere, as long as jacory is here, he’s going to give his receivers a chance. Those interceptions are a by product of that poorly schemed offense, unless we run it like we did last night, we already got defenses feeling like we’re going to be gunslingers an that’s a good thing, the only difference right now between us and those teams with 1 or no losses, they run the ball and call better plays. The difference between jacory and andrew luck, harbaugh’s offense creates the spaces and separation needed for the passing game, last night was one of the 1st times in a long time we did that as well.

    Don’t worry though, shannon knows what championship football looks like from a defensive standpoint and that game last night is going to open his eyes to what a championship offense should look like as well. We could very well have been undefeated this year or just a 1 loss team had we just stuck berry and miller. We all know miller was under used against osu, whipple tries to hard to get everything back on 1 play with his play-calling. I’m quite sure stoutland was pleased with it yesterday, whipple was probably frustrated, we’ll see how smart poison ivy is, if he doesn’t realize the offense was more efficient yesterday from here on in with that style, he’s not the oc for UM.

    Play to the strength of the offense, and right now, this offense is ready to explode because of the consistent running game we’ve had all year that’s been under utilized by whip, it’s plain to see, jacory will get back to form soon enuff.

  292. Ducks are soft! If they play a team with a little size the duck gets roasted!

  293. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Oregon and Auburn are clearly 1 and 2. Boisie and TCU need to play someone that’s not a scrub, more than once a season, and when they only have a week to prepare.

    This is the most ridiculous BS I’ve ever seen, all because of their pre-season ranking.

  294. Ducks are the best team I have seen but Cam Newton is the best player.

  295. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Truth,

    After all is said and done……it’s just your opinion. That’s all it is and many very good and capable football minds disagree with you.

    Get over it man J12 won… played well and over came adversity. That’s a winner in my book…. of course that’s just my opinion.

  296. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Funny thing bout being #1 in the first bcs standing of the season, if I’m not mistaken, is that team has yet to finish the season #1??? maybe?? USC in 04-05???

  297. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Uchamps says:
    October 24, 2010 at 8:45 PM

    At this point in the season, if Auburn isn’t the number one team then there isn’t a number one team!
    ————————————-
    Oregon and Boise St are better than Auburn. But Boise St will never go higher than #3 because of the schedule they play.

  298. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    a playoff system would solve all of this crap, but……………

  299. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    NO DOUBT BOUT CAM Miss Clark…dude is a CAPITAL STUD!!! btw funny how a wide open, spead em out, pass happy oc uses plays that are to the qbs strength, and doesn’t ask him to do things over and over he’s not very good at?? Lol…btw auburns d is very suspect imo…I wouldn’t be surprised at all if bama ends up back in the ship

  300. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    I’m quite sure stoutland was pleased with it yesterday, whipple was probably frustrated, we’ll see how smart poison ivy is, if he doesn’t realize the offense was more efficient yesterday from here on in with that style, he’s not the oc for UM.

    Play to the strength of the offense, and right now, this offense is ready to explode because of the consistent running game we’ve had all year that’s been under utilized by whip, it’s plain to see, jacory will get back to form soon enuff.

    >>>>>>>>>

    Cal, Whipple was probably pizzed because last night has been what Shannon’s been telling him all year long but Whipple, who thinks he knows so friggin much didn’t listen. So now Shannon’s rubbing it in his face talking about power running and play-action and the passing game opened up because of the running game. lol

    If we’d spent as much time in practice on running, power running, as we did on passing the deep ball, we’d be undefeated or maybe have one loss. We’d have blown out Pit and Clemson and Duke and UNC by the 3rd quarters if not earlier.

    But it’s cool as long as Jughead sticks with the program and adds wrinkles to it for running and passing. If he’s half as smart as he thinks he is he’ll install a split backfield and run the ball out of the shotgun.

    We’ll see though.

  301. I know you are JSQ, :) it is all this nit picking!!!! And we won so big….bigger than I think anyone thought!

    I loved the game, loved to see the players having fun!!!!

    Go Canes!!!!!

  302. Yeah Nash the Tide is going to run alllllll over Auburn’s D!

  303. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, Boisie would lose four a year if they played in a real conference. They struggled mightily to beat a young, still-learning VT team and they had a team full of seniors.

    They’d lose 3 or 4 in the ACC truth be told. That’s why even a playoff doesn’t work for this problem.

    They need to join the Big 12 or whatever it’s called and play some real teams EVERY YEAR week in and week out.

    That’s where the attrition catches you…going on the road, getting your team up every single week to play someone with the same or similar talent as you.

    Seriously. They should have a clause that gives extra weight to wins by the big conference teams and their schedules cause it’s completely unjust to teams like Bama, Aub, Oregon, South Carolina, OSU, Wisky etc.

  304. What stats did jacory pad, he played against the competition in front of him, did anybody say that about steven garcia after south carolina beat bama and their young secondary, lol. Hell did anybody say that about v-tech when they played boise st. now had those same cb’s picked off passes. After ed reed and company left, did anybody say that about our secondary the year after. He threw 3 touchdowns, and threw for over 200 yards, which part padded his stats, the 3 touchdowns, the one to benjamin was the same deep comeback route he threw to benjamin against osu, the only difference, the db for osu made a solid tackle, but who cares that’s one travis benjamins best routes.

  305. You guys really think Boise and Oregon is better than Auburn?

    I feel like if either played Auburn, Cam Newton would run all up and through them and Auburns O/D-line would dominate both of those games.

    Oregon’s puny little guys would get wrecked with the cheap shots and brutal hits those Auburn Tigers take!

    No one on either of those defenses is going to tackle Cam Newton! Period.

    I don’t think Auburn is that solid of a team really… But as long as guys are afraid to tackle Cam Newton they are going to be a force… A strong force.

  306. Agreed, Cav.

  307. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Nash and JSQ don’t bet on Bama running over Auburn. Auburn can play D when they need to and Bama’s OL has proven very vincible.

    Plus, if AUB gets out to a lead, it changes the nature of the defense tremendously. I like Auburn matching up with Bama.

    Auburn’s OC relies on Newton WAYYYY too much though. He uses minimal scheme and tactics. It’s amazing how much these guys make and this is all they can come up with. lol

    I’ll take Aub in this one…

  308. Listening to Lamar on WQAM after the game was so funny, he called out the fact that all those “Randy Haters” would call in saying how horrible UNC really is and this proves nothing. So of the things he said about all the Randy and Shalala haters was not very nice but funny!

  309. Hell.. I think Wisky would take Oregon and Boise to the woodshed!

  310. Canechic, I think there is always something to nit pick if you look for it. We had a good game and should win the next 3. VA Tech will be a big challenge but now I gave faith that these players will come to the game ready to play. Thank God.

  311. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Cal, I have no idea what truth is talking about “padding stats.” lol Against who, FAMU?? Or maybe it was Duke, the game where Whipple had him throwing on 3rd and 4th down from under center with an empty backfield about 10 times. lol

  312. Yes Vtech is going to be a challenge. They have put it together since their debacle. But we owe them an @ss whooping for last year’s game.

  313. I’ve got Auburn too. Just saying Bama can run on them, not that they will win.

  314. JSQ what happened to Truth at the game?

  315. Auburn is good, I don’t think I would want to be #1 this year until the end.

  316. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    UChamps, Oregon’s scheme is tricky. Yes, they’re small but they don’t need a lot of size because everything do is based on speed. So the extra mass really doesn’t matter to them.

    Plus, their defense is based on their offense’s ability to strike quickly, wear down the opponent’s defense and put even more pressure on the opponents offense to score, score, score. Thus forcing the opponent’s offense into more mistakes and turnovers, which gives the ball right back to the Oregon offense, which continues its relentless no huddle pace and scoring….

    A vicious cycle…That’s why they score so much.

    It’s a sharp strategy I must say, cause not many teams have enough speed and discipline on defense to shut down that offense for four consecutive plays AND enough offensive firepower to keep up with their scoring.

    DL in particular get worn own quickly against them, which opens up the running game even more, which opens up the passing game and so on, back and forth.

    Their QB this year is much better than Masoli as well. He’s a much better passer. And everyone knows what they’re doing on that O. There’s never a moments hesitation.

    The team that would beat them would have to have a roation of DL in place that could play and substitute within a few seconds of the end of one play.

    I could see a team playing a 4-2-5 against them, or even a 3-2-6, to completely flood the passing lanes and come up strong in run support. A 3-3-5 might work well against them too.

    It’d be interesting to see how Shannon-Lovett attacked them.

    I don’t see them losing the rest of the way. AUB would be the one team that could score enough, quickly enough to keep pace with them. That would be a great game.

  317. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ
    October 24, 2010 at 9:14 PM
    I’ve got Auburn too. Just saying Bama can run on them, not that they will win.

    >>>>>>>>

    Gotcha. It’s going to be a great game though. That is for sure.

  318. Cap, I’ve peeped their scheme and i’ve even stolen some of their play designs for my flag football team.

    I know they are tricky but my emphasis was on the dirty rough hits. Auburn WILL take vicous hits on those small players. Fast or not… All it takes is one good lick. And from what i’ve seen of Auburn this year… they are willing to take cheap shots to slow guys down.

    Those Tigers play physical and nasty.

  319. Nothing, Canechic, he just had to leave early because little T was tired. Canez1 and I got to see them before they left and they complained about the game while little T fed me cotton candy and teased me. Such a little charmer, I wonder where he gets it from? 😉

    I had such a good time yesterday. Very much redeemed my prior experience.

    I wish we could have hung out, Canechic! Next time!!!

  320. We will for sure next time!!

    He just seemed a bit on edge and I just had so much fun. Even the debbie downers behind were having fun. Little T needs to meet the little ones we tailgate with, those 2 are seasoned tailgaters!

  321. behind me

    Well I am so tired…off to bed I go!

    Have a great night everyone! :)

  322. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Capt,

    I like that word, “vincible.”

  323. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Don’t think there is a number one team that stands out above the rest, Auburn and Oregon look like a number one team on offense but not so much on defense. Boise has a weak schedule, week in and week out it is not comparable to other BCS conferences.

    A playoff is the only answer, is that an absolute?

  324. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    BTW I can’t stand the Packers, a bunch of crybabies, especially QB Rodgers, he complained to the refs the whole game when they played the Dolphins.

  325. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    UChamps, that offense would be great in flag football. Interesting point about Auburn. yeah, they hit and play very physical but how long would it last before they get behind? I’m not sure. It would be great to see though. Those AUB DBs love to come up and hit in run support. It’s fun watching those guys.

    Randy, yeah, it’s rarely used but when it fits it’s perfect.

    I don’t think a playoff would answer much because the problem is multi-week schedules, beating teams on the road and such. A playoff wouldn’t balance that ledger.

    Boisie and TCU need to be punished in the polls for their weak schedule and thus force them to join a real conference and compete like everyone else. Utah’s doing it. TCU should’ve long since been in the Big 12. Boisie should as well.

  326. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Has the real truth been kidnapped and replaced by his evil twin (lol)?

  327. I posted a warm and fuzzy quote for everyone but it got eaten up by the spam guy!

  328. Hmmm, Canechic, I don’t see the quote. Can you post it again?

    Truth needs sleep. I am cranky when I am tired too!

  329. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Miami v. Virginia on ESPN (HD) at noon eastern time Saturday.

  330. “Good fortune shies away from gloom. Keep your spirits up. Good things will come to you and you will come to good things.” ~Glorie Abelhas

  331. I am cranky when I am tired too! Get rest Truth….I need some too!

  332. shannon and j12’s athem for the rest of the year:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MdAbsd0HmI

  333. i’m NOT going to HATE for one week. YES we are pissed at the FSU debacle, but we just slaughtered a decent UNC team and we showed MIAMI passion.

    for one week i’m hereby declaring i’m not gonna hate.

    12-2 is still possible.

  334. You guys went in today… I couldn’t even read all of the comments, lol…

    I get mad at Jacory too, particularly in the Clemson game when he threw those two picks… They were the stupidest throws I’ve ever seen and with that being said, the kid makes waaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more good throws than bad…

    For some reason, we don’t put equal weight on dropped passes and poorly run routes as we put on bad throws… So while everyone pegs Hank as a great WR and potential first rounder, its hardly ever mentioned that he leads the team in drops and I wouldn’t be surprised if he lead the conference/nation…

    Last week, I stated my stance on the OC and I still feel the same way… I’m sure that if I would’ve seen the underneath route wide open on the play where Jacory threw the INT, I would’ve been bothered too… However, to be so confident as to say that teams like VT would pick off 3 or 4 other passes implies that they have better athletes at DB than we have at WR…. I didn’t see throws into double and triple coverage last night… That is all I’m asking the kid not to do… Its a rare occurence for a WR to be running 40 yards down field wide open so I expect somebody to be in coverage… But as long as its only one person, I’ll live with that INT…

    As far as I’m concerned about last night, a depleted UNC team is better than Duke and we beat them worse… There is always going to be an excuse as to why one team beat another team… We lost to OSU because we kept throwing them the ball…We lost to FSU because they ran for 300 yards… We beat UNC because they had to play freshmen DBs in the second half…

    Hell it happens, Bama beat Texas in last year’s Nat’l Ship because they had to play a frosh QB… Its part of the game so why harp on it?

    And for the record, we have THE best pass defense in the country hands down… We pick off 7+% of passes and have only allowed 3 passing TDs all season… I’ve seen QBs drop back and have 10 seconds to throw and not let the ball go… QBs pass efficiency rating against us in under 90%… If we can stop giving up an 80 yard TD every game, things will start looking up!!

    I was talking to my friend after the FSU game and hes an FSU fan… he told me that Jimbo has a quote, “Things are never as bad as they seem after a loss and never as good as they seem after a win”…

    Now with that being said, fans only have TWO jobs and no more:

    Cheer when your team wins and pout when they lose… There can be no more jobs added to that, we have enough other stuff to worry about, lol

  335. doc – nice post

  336. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Refs say they didn’t know who recovered the football………

    “I can’t stand it. I just cant stand it.”

  337. Good post Doc- I really was stunned reading some comments…

    I love my Canes and am very proud of the way they played on Sat. Keep up the good work….one game at a time.

  338. hurriphin good to see you back.

    that call was just repulsive…..but the NFL needs the steelers to win, I am no Roger Goodell fan….ugh!

  339. Shannon on WQAm-great interview!

    GO CANES!

  340. CC.

    INCREDIBLE interview! He also addressed the Latwan Anderson situation and like we told you guys here, it had NOTHING to do with Latwan’s talent or if they wanted him. It was STRICTLY numbers. We are at the 85 limit and LATWAN knew that coming in. He’s a highly touted kid and its ALWAYS an adjustment for them not playing. ALWAYS.

  341. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Hell it happens, Bama beat Texas in last year’s Nat’l Ship because they had to play a frosh QB… Its part of the game so why harp on it?
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
    And I damn sure don’t see Bama swooning over their trophy any less.

    But if all guys are saying is that JACORY HIMSELF didn’t improve overnight…….Then that is indeed a fair argument. Because he certainly was still throwing those same rainbows that drive me crazy every time he cocks that thing back.

  342. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Can sum1 summarize what boss man had to say this morning…I’m on my iPhone and can’t listen to it…and I think ferman said it best about jacorey a few weeks ago sumthin like he prob will never be a “great” qb or never even a “really good” qb ala dorsey, geno, venny,… He may be just am average college qb…but IMO week done need him to be great BUT the players around him HAVE TO BE…if u think about it we all LOVE Kenny D BUT the players around him are way better than what he was imo…but one thing about it j12 has reduced his ints per game…lol

  343. JSQ and Canez1,

    Good to finally have some drinks with you guys on Saturday! JSQ thanks so much for the food and jello shots very cool of you. Canez1 we got chop it up again next time you are in town…good times. Good to meet you also Truth didn’t get to chat you were already on the move..next time

  344. So I woke up in the middle of the night realizing I left two BCBG dresses in my hotel in New Orleans a month ago. I just called the Ritz and even though they keep stuff like that for 30 days, nothing was ever turned in.

    This happened to me in Cancun once. Damn cleaning staff.

    Citizens of New Orleans, I implore you, if you see the Ritz cleaning staff wearing the following dresses, please yell “STOP, THIEF!” and make a citizens’ arrest.

    http://eyeofthehurricane.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/AprilCanes-007.jpg

    http://eyeofthehurricane.net/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/jimmyjohnsonevent.jpg

    Thank you.

  345. Great hanging out with you guys, DAT! Good times! Hope to see you at Maryland! :-)

  346. Well it looks like my girl KL let all of her Randy Rangers out of the closet 😉

    Good for you guys. Good win and a much needed win.

    The stench is covered up for atleast another week :)

    It was such a pleasure meeting everyone and seeing some old friends as well.

    JSQ my love. Nothing else needs to be said…..

    KL and fam. Mr. KL is a badass! Love that dude. You guys must go at it and not in a good way!! LOL

    T and little Tbone. I knew we would get along from years back. Great to finally meet you both. Don’t let the Ostrich society get to you and please don’t waste anymore energy. They can’t help themselves. Until they get kicked in the nuts again. It’s a process.

    Great 2nd half but the same issues we had after FSU we still have today. T laid them out so I won’t beat a dead horse and get Sally, Nancy and the rest of the pink ladies all pissy.

    A word of advice. Don’t let Blandy Brown pull the football out from under you again. You owe it to yourself and your Cane sanity.

    Dat and crew. No doubt. We will be down for Thanksgiving week so we all have to get everyone together. Pleasure was all mine!

    Shwarm and Fiance. House music all night looooong, say what!! LOL Awesome. Old balls and his crew must’ve been loving the tailgate rave.

    Matt in NY and wifey. Always good seeing you guys. It’s been too long! We will get together soon back home.

    CC and fam we missed you guys. Not sure if you have met KL before but you guys would get along so well!! I swear sisters from another mother :)

    Crazy weekend!!

    JSQ and I get to our seats and I hear someone calling my name. I’m like WTF???? A good friend I went to middle school and high school with is sitting with his family in the row behind us. What are the odds!!

    Anyway again great to meet everyone for the first time and see all the old peeps.

    Good W.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  347. They can’t help themselves. Until they get kicked in the nuts again. It’s a process.

    Classic. LMAO

  348. A closer look at the schedule reveals that Miami controls its own destiny in the Coastal Division, as the Canes still have a shot to knock the Hokies off their perch. And even though Georgia Tech and North Carolina both have two conference losses each, it’s just not smart to count out Paul Johnson or Butch Davis until it’s over – especially when both still have an opportunity against Virginia Tech. The Hokies’ toughest stretch in conference play still lies ahead, and some might remember it was the back-to-back losses to Georgia Tech and UNC that did Virginia Tech in a year ago. And Miami will be wanting to redeem itself for last year’s flat performance in Blacksburg.

  349. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    C1 glad u made it back safely…c*3 did a awsome inter of u…lol

  350. Canez1, no doubt man!

    http://www.seventhfloorblog.com/2010/10/24/1771355/unc-post-game-thread-the-land-beyond-competence

    scroll down a bit on the page Franklin might get award for that one..lol

  351. Nash wasn’t bad at all lol!

    Dat LMAO!that looked like the kid from Boise getting blasted in the face without the actual blasting.

    Good stuff 74. I hope you were acting on that one. If not……

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  352. KL and I meet once but we really did not have time to talk, I look forward to meeting her at the next tailgate.

    I really used to enjoy blogging but I think I am not so much anymore…..maybe if we win out things will change….I truly thought fans would be happy but I am not sure unless the canes win 3 titles in a row….they will not be happy :) GO CANES!

  353. Dang, Canez1, I was wondering where you were! No salty comments yesterday!

    I was starting to think you flew out so early to get to something else, meaning “Mom’s birthday party” = Mariah Carey fan club convention. 😉

  354. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    33-10 and everything still sucks! Really?

  355. new blog up!