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Well ‘Canes fans, it’s time to focus on Maryland. We’ve all had a couple of days to vent our frustrations, and almost all of our faithful readers and comment posters have valid points and concerns. Let’s try to put this ugliness behind us and focus on something we can be hopeful for: the future.

The Maryland Terrapins (6-2, 3-1 ACC Atlantic) visit our beloved Miami Hurricanes (5-3, 3-2 ACC Coastal) in an inter-division ACC matchup, to be aired on ESPNU @ noon Saturday. The road has been unkind to the Terps, as they just broke a three-year, 10-game road losing streak two weeks ago with a 24-21 win at Boston College. Also of note, Maryland has only beaten one team (Navy) with a winning record this season.

With that said, let’s take a closer look at Maryland statistically.

QB – Redshirt freshman Danny O’Brien (6’3, 215) has played in all eight games, starting five, and is coming off a four TD pass performance against Wake Forest. He’s 95-of-167 for 1148 yards with 13 TDs and three picks. That’s a 56.9% completion percentage. Also seeing time is junior Jamarr Robinson (6’0, 195). Robinson has started three games, appearing in six. He’s 24-of-47 for 325 yards, with four TDs and two INTs. Robinson is a threat to run, carrying the ball 34 times for 103 yards. O’Brien is a dropback QB and isn’t much of a threat to escape the pocket.

Maryland is seventh in the ACC in passing offense, averaging 210 yards per game.

RB – Da’Rel Scott (5’11, 200, Sr.) and Davin Meggett (5’9, 215, Jr.) share duties running the ball. Scott has started all eight games, rushing 75 times for 346 yards and three TDs. Meggett has 90 rushes for 487 yards and four TDs. He averages 5.4 yards per rush while Scott averages 4.6. D.J. Adams (5’10, 220 RS Fr.) has appeared in four games, having earned 29 rushes for 156 yards and three TDs.

Maryland ranks eleventh in the ACC in rushing offense, averaging 118 yards per game.

WR/TE – There’s no secret that Torrey Smith (6’1, 200, Jr.) is the Terps main receiving threat. He’s hauled in 34 passes for 560 yards (16.5 yards per catch avg.), including seven TDs. He’s averaging 70 yards per game. Next up is Adrian Cannon (6’2, 204, Sr.) catching 22 for 189 and a lone score. Cannon is a possession receiver. Eight other Terps have caught between two and nine passes. RB Scott has received nine balls for 142 yards and punched in two TDs.

Tight end Matt Furstenburg has caught 10 throws for 166 yards and a TD.

OL – The Terps aren’t undersized, but they aren’t terribly big across the line. To a man, they almost average 300 pounds. As a unit, they’ve given up five sacks, tied for second with Miami. They are protecting the QB.

The Terps rank eighth in first downs with 73, rank ninth in total offense with 328 yards per game, and ranks fourth with 28.5 points per game in the ACC. They also convert 40.7% on third down, good enough for fifth in the conference.

DL – Joe Vellano (6’2, 285, So.) leads the team in sacks with five. He’s plays tackle. He’s also registered 41 stops. A.J. Francis (6’4, 295, So.) has 1.5 sacks and 31 total tackles. DE Drew Gloster (6’2, 255, Sr.) has 22 tackles.

Maryland is tied for third in the ACC for sacks with Miami and Boston College at 11.

LB – MLB Alex Wujciak (6’3, 245, Sr.) is a force in the middle. He’s accumulated 80 tackles, 3.5 TFL, six passes defended, and a forced fumble. He’s easily an All-ACC candidate. OLB Adrian Moten (6’2, 230, Sr.) has 54 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks, 11 passes defended, three INTs, and a forced fumble. OLB Demetrius Hartsfield (6’2, 235, So.) has 45 stops and an INT. He’s also recovered a fumble.

The Terrapins are ranked first in rushing defense in the ACC, giving up an average of 58.8 yards per game in ACC play. That’s 1.9 yards per rush.

CB/S – Free safety Kenny Tate (6’4, 220, Jr.) is the Terps second leading tackler with 63. He’s also accumulated 5.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks, and two INTs. He’s forced four fumbles. Strong safety Antwine Perez (6’1, 210, Sr.) has 33 stops and three picks. Corner Dexter McDougle (5’10, 200, RS Fr.) has started seven games and has 16 tackles and six passes defended. Fellow corner starter Cameron Chism (5’10, 190, Jr.) has 37 tackles and 14 passes defended.

Maryland is ranked seventh in ACC play in pass defense, giving up an average of 204.2 yards per game.

K/P – Travis Baltz is 7-9 on field goals, being 33-of-33 on extra point attempts. He also has 46 punts averaging 42.1 per attempt, with 15 downed inside the 20 and eight of 50+ yards.

K/P Returns – Smith has 15 kick returns for 280 yards, averaging 18.7 yards per return. Tony Logan has 24 punt returns for 510 yards with two TDs, averaging 21.2 yards per punt return.

  1. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Playcalling doesn’t matter, esp. not with a new QB.

    “We wanted to make sure we established the running game and allow Troy, in his third start in his career, to develop some type of rhythm, develop some type of consistency, some type of confidence,” Singletary said. “And not put too much on him too soon.”

  2. avatar
    BahamaCAne says:

    Oh Maryland, because of you i wont be putting down 10 jello shots.

    Go Canes!

  3. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    MM01, MD runs a good offense but we should match up well with them and shut them down. DL needs to step up but most of all our offense NEEDS TO SCORE SOME POINTS ON THEIR, WITHOUT TURNOVERS.

    I’m going to find out just how many points we’ve put on the board without turnovers this season. I doubt it’s more than 14 a game.

  4. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Averaging more than 14 that is…

  5. avatar
    BahamaCAne says:

    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    November 3, 2010 at 8:23 AM

    Playcalling doesn’t matter, esp. not with a new QB.

    “We wanted to make sure we established the running game and allow Troy, in his third start in his career, to develop some type of rhythm, develop some type of consistency, some type of confidence,” Singletary said. “And not put too much on him too soon.”
    —————————————————-
    Capt, it stills baffles me that when Whipple Jr and Morris came into the game Whipple Sr came out guns blazing in spite of the positive yards the Canes was getting on the ground!

    Virgina got 21 of its 24 pts off of TO.

  6. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, it’s because playcalling does’t matter, not the down and distance, not the personnel, NOT EVEN THE DEFENSE’s strengths weaknesses. The same plays that worked against one team should work against everyone. If they don’t it’s because the players aren’t executing.

  7. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And if it’s not because the players aren’t executing it’s because Shannon can’t coach.

  8. those stats for Maryland look fake as hell. how does a LB have 11 passes defensed already? and a CB with 14 already and the MLB got 6, too. Are no passes caught on them?

  9. Este, I cheated and combined PBU’s and PD.

    Not sure what the difference is, so I combined them.

    Whomever is a statistician please tell me the difference. I’ll learn something new today.

  10. The Truth
    November 3, 2010 at 8:21 AM (Edit)
    And now we’re to the point where we have to “admit” that UVA – Uuuuu Veeeee Aaaaaay – had a “good scheme” against our defense.

    Are you f@cking kidding me?

    Miami should beat UVA with ME at QB.

    It’s almost borderline retarded to ignore the words of a player that says they didn’t come to play.

    It’s almost borderline retarded to keep taking these losses as their own little microcosms.

    Miami has lost football games for 3 1-2 years in the SAME manner no matter who’s called the plays, who’s thrown the ball or who’s coached the D.

    The qb’s have changed. The OC has changed and DC has too. So who’s the constant?

    The HC.

    You guys are STILL harping on the playcalling as if when Whipple goes and Miami changes OC’s AGAIN the outcome will be ANY different.

    That’s what you aren’t seeing. You keep making excuses as to why Miami lost in ’07 and ’08 as opposed to ’09 and now this year – but there’s no differences between the how’s and why’s of each loss. It’s the SAME team out there…

    You don’t have to listen to one thing I write on here…I’m a nobody. I’ve been harping at these internal problems for a while now and glazing over them hoping it’s just a part of the growth process for the HC. I’ve known about things and have talked to a couple of people here about them long before this week.

    But when someone like J comes on here and almost literally spells a small bit of it out for you it’s ridiculous for me to see the response be “but the playcalling blah blah blah…”

    It ain’t the f@cking playcalling!!!!!

    LaRon Byrd didn’t get up there and mince words, did he? And he’s one of the ones that I’m sure would love to speak more of his mind.

    From this point fwd I’m only talking X’s and O’s. This whole debate is pointless anyway…

    Happy Rainy Wesnesday!!

  11. DATcane
    November 3, 2010 at 8:05 AM (Edit)

    http://blog.allcanes.com/

  12. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    miamimike01
    November 3, 2010 at 8:40 AM
    The Truth
    November 3, 2010 at 8:21 AM (Edit)
    And now we’re to the point where we have to “admit” that UVA – Uuuuu Veeeee Aaaaaay – had a “good scheme” against our defense.

    Are you f@cking kidding me?

    Miami should beat UVA with ME at QB.

    It’s almost borderline retarded to ignore the words of a player that says they didn’t come to play.

    It’s almost borderline retarded to keep taking these losses as their own little microcosms.

    Miami has lost football games for 3 1-2 years in the SAME manner no matter who’s called the plays, who’s thrown the ball or who’s coached the D.

    The qb’s have changed. The OC has changed and DC has too. So who’s the constant?

    The HC.

    You guys are STILL harping on the playcalling as if when Whipple goes and Miami changes OC’s AGAIN the outcome will be ANY different.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Don’t try to make me sound like I’m saying this AFTER THE FACT. I called it DURING THE GAME. If you’d disagreed then why didn’t you say something?

    And since we’ve obviously only LOST games, what happens when we win?? Did we win games for the same reasons we’ve lost games?

    And HOW exactly are going to win games when the offense can’t score EVEN OFF A TURNOVER???

    And in case you didn’t notice….I HAVE ONLY BEEN TALKING XS AND OS.

    You’re the one with all the inside information…..so again WTF DO YOU EXPECT ME TO THINK WHEN I SEE THE OFFENSE SPUTTERING AND CONSTANTLY PUTTING THE DEFENSE IN BAD SPOT AFTER BAD SPOT???

  13. a lot of the criticism i’m hearing is on some damned if you do damned if you don’t level.

    but doesn’t address the problems like the academic standards, lack of nutritionist, lack of resources for S&C, lack of money to pay assistants. Cheaper and probably easier to fix those issues. And would give Shannon and any other coach a better chance of success.

  14. Good morning all! :)

    Hope the players on this cane team decides to get their head out of their @sses and kick some booty on Saturday but I am sure they will not because they are much too smart to play football. Scholars them all! Yes, Yes!

    GO CANES!!!!

  15. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    Sigh.

    The Canes need to win this one so everyone can settle down.

    I’m not sure who brought this up, but the Canes have a WLWWLWWL pattern… using 5th grade math we should BEAT the Terps on Saturday.

    JSQ, line em up!!!

    F the Terps!

  16. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, if you’re referring to THIS Laron Byrd interview, what did he say that was so enlightening. “You have to execute.”

    So WTF is so new about that? What can I read into that? That Shannon can’t teach the kids how to execute??? OK, well what’s he doing or apparently NOT doing that results in continual poor execution??

    Stop fukin hinting and mincing words and expecting me to just take for your for it. Spell it out or save it for someone else.

  17. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Cav

    Who are you yelling at? :-)

    I don’t have “inside” information…I have REAL information that isn’t appropriate for message boards.

    I have laid it out there for you as clear as day…it. is. the. QB.

    But you don’t want to hear that.

    You don’t want it to be because of a lot of things so you stay focussed on the one area that you THINK is the issue. I am not going to throw anyone under the bus to appease my “opinon” on here and make it clearer.

    Just know that I am NOT arguing with you to bring on my “point of view” I am TALKING TO you to try to help focuss your frustrations with this team.

    Is that a little more clear?? I love all you guys…I have zero interest in bickering and telling people that I enjoy the company of that they are wrong or to fight with you guys just to thump my chest.

    My comment about UVA and their “scheme” was more about the ridiculousness of believing that team should EVER be on the field with THIS Miami team (Not reviving the glory teams, mind you – just THIS team). THAT UVA team should lose to THIS Miami team EVERY time. No matter what they do offensively and no matter who is the QB’s for Miami outside of maybe Canez1 because we all know he’ll be over there on the sidelines trying to get with a few cheerleaders and not paying attention to the game…

  18. avatar
    The Truth says:

    …and Byrd said “we didn’t come to play”

  19. Truth, the QB situation is what has me most interested to see the game this week. I’d be looking forward to it either way, but to see what Morris can do in this offense is something that’s almost exciting – almost cause its been so ugly offensively this year I’m cringing just thinking about it.

  20. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, if it’s that simple and if Shannon’s been “enabling” J12, lol, then we’ll see the results the rest of this year cause I think J12 is done for the year.

    And I’m cool with that. I see J12’s limitations and perhaps his inclinations just like you. I just think a good OC curbs the bad, long-ball-itis and throwing when he should throw it away, and accentuates the good, touch and accuracy within a 25 yd range off play-action esp.

    But if J12’s too stubborn and Shannon too stubborn in his way, and it’s NOT the playcalling or the playcaller, we’ll see the proof Saturday. Morris has a stronger arm and can run better than J12, so it should make some of those curls happen a lot quicker, which should give more YAC.

    Maybe Mini Martz might even find a way to get the ball into the RBs hands in something other than a dive play or a five yard dump into the flat right in front of a LB. ;-)

  21. “No matter what they do offensively and no matter who is the QB’s for Miami outside of maybe Canez1 because we all know he’ll be over there on the sidelines trying to get with a few cheerleaders and not paying attention to the game…”

    LMAO!!! Someone has to get some fiyah going on these sidelines!!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  22. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, if he said that, you’re implying

    a) That Shannon doesn’t know how to get this team “ready to play” week in and week out?? Which is possible, as it seems this is the hardest thing for a HC to figure out how to do at every level but also far and away the most important thing for a HC to figure out….

    b) The players themselves are just too soft and immature to come “ready to play” week in and week out?

    Or some combination of the above…

    Interestingly, that’s been Mark Richt’s problem for the last ten years…..

  23. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, to read even deeper into what you’re saying and have said, b/c Shannon’s enabled J12 and the players see this in practice and most of all in games, they’ve lost faith and confidence in Shannon???

    If so, I can see that. And you’re saying the solution should’ve been to put Morris in direct competition with J12 and not try to RS him because J12 was out of control in his own way.

    I can see that but I can also see why RS would want to try to RS Morris and reel in J12 with more running.

    Again, correct me if I’m wrong. I have no real information, just speculation, groping in the dark.

  24. I think it is so funny that we all banter back and forth. We all think we have the answers, the inside info, the scoop and honestly we only have opinions.

    Gentleman and ladies we can debate for hours, days, weeks and months….nothing we say will matter. This team may fall apart or it may rise but one thing I know for sure….the school, the coach, the team, the players and the janitor do not give a Sh!t what we think!

    I have met some nice people from this blog and I love you all but beating up on each other is nothing but wasted energy!

  25. I’m looking for this team to rally around Morris and pull out the W this weekend.

    Just like they did when he came in to the game Saturday.

    Cav good point about more zip on the ball= more YAC.

    Noodles’ ball would float that additional split second giving the db’s time to get their hands on the receiver as soon as they catch it.

    TB3’s catch and big run was a perfect example of what some zip can do. You can’t shake someone when they are already on top of your ass as soon as the ball gets there.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  26. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    In defense of Richt, he does compete in the SEC.

    Soft mentally, Cav.

    Evidence?

    http://blog.allcanes.com/

    SMH

    What the hell is going on down there?

  27. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, where did Byrd say that?

  28. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    canechic, you may be right.

    So, let’s just fold up this site, ask Canesport, ITU, and Scout and tell them it doesn’t matter and thanks for playing.

    It matters to us. That’s all that matters.

  29. Truth, to read even deeper into what you’re saying and have said, b/c Shannon’s enabled J12 and the players see this in practice and most of all in games, they’ve lost faith and confidence in Shannon???

    If so, I can see that. And you’re saying the solution should’ve been to put Morris in direct competition with J12 and not try to RS him because J12 was out of control in his own way.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    This right here!

    Unfortunately only 1 of a million issues.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  30. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    Cav:

    Steve Gorten
    #UM WR LaRon Byrd on loss to #Virginia: “we clearly underestimated them. We went into the game expecting we’re going to blow (them) out.”

    That was via twitter last night

  31. You know what Mike when you keep beating the same dead horse and saying the same thing over and over and get the same result….it starts to get old.

    None of us no for sure what will happen. None of us know if the school will shut down football altogether (which they could). None of us know if Randy will be fired,or Whipple will be fired, or Lovett, or that ball boy who farts a lot.

    I know we all the canes football team, we love the school (some of us) and it makes us sad and upset when they lose. But we are all just guessing here and coming on here beating up on each other is not going to change a thing or get us any closer to the truth.

  32. KL well I must admit I thought the same thing!

  33. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    follow you’re own advice then.

  34. love canes football

  35. Wow I guess it is okay for you to defend your position but I cannot do the same?

  36. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    Let’s just end it, and agree to disagree.

    How ’bout them’Canes?

  37. Well I am done, not really more to say. Hope the canes win this weekend and put on a good homecoming show!

    Off to get some homework done before work.

    GO Canes :)

  38. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    MM01, I called out Richt in the pre-season of 2008, the year he had that loaded team and was making excuses about how being pre-season #1 is just a bull’s eye on your chest. I called him out to Solar and Solar wasn’t sure what I was talking about but b/c he lives in GA he was able to see it and hear it from the fans up there.

    That year they were pre-season #1. But they played scared all year long and got smashed by Bama and UF, games they had the talent and experience to win, teams they had beaten the year before and they came back loaded on both sides.

    But he did figure “it” out the year before, at the UF game when he had the whole team get a 15-yd penalty. From that game forward they played loose, confident, fast and hard, blowing out everyone they faced the rest of the year. But come 2008, when they had all the marbles, they played scared in the big games and got embarrassed twice.

    I say it’s because their HC mentally PUNKED them by all his scaredy-cat talk. They went on and played like they were scared, from the first game forward. Then they got destroyed by Bama, then UF

    He competes in the SEC and has actually won the SEC a couple of times, yes. But with all that talent and resources, why has he been so quickly eclipsed?? He peaked in 2004, with only two losses. Every year since then he’s lost one more game each year, including losing toe Oklahoma St. and Kentucky.

    They’ve had as much talent as anyone in the country for the last several years but they’ve only been able to compete for the league title, once. And the year they won it, they lose to WVU 38-35.

    It’s been a gradual decline for Richt but he’s the OC and he’s always had a solid recruiting base, so he’s more in control of the team’s success or failure. But the decline is still there. He’s rebounded this year after LOSING FOUR STRAIGHT. lol

    That’s why I say, figuring out how to get kid’s “ready to play” seems to be the most difficult but the most important thing for a HC to do.

    It took Saban four coaching gigs to figure it out. Butch still hasn’t figured it out.

  39. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    This right here!

    Unfortunately only 1 of a million issues.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Bro, that One issue will resolve a million others. It will make the playcalling “look” better. It will even make Fluzzi less of a factor. It will also, and most importantly, put some fire into the team because the defense and fans feed off the offense.

    As they say, “Defense wins champhionships but offense sells tickets.” But it’s also true that Offense inspires the defense, esp. in college.

  40. canechic :D

  41. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    KLCaneFan
    November 3, 2010 at 9:37 AM
    Cav:

    Steve Gorten
    #UM WR LaRon Byrd on loss to #Virginia: “we clearly underestimated them. We went into the game expecting we’re going to blow (them) out.”

    That was via twitter last night

    >>>>>>>>>

    Okay, so these guys simply HAVE NOT GROWN UP. This is definitely not a coaches problem, not directly at least. Indirectly it is.

    If this team was thinking that they could just walk on the field and win ANY game as inconsistent as they’ve been, they really need to mature.

    At the same time, Shannon’s got to learn how to read his team and figure out when their heads are on straight and when they’re not. I recall a story the week of the OSU game about M-Rob and Ojomo saying “you could hear a pin drop,” as practice was about to begin. So clearly they were focused that week of practice. The defense was, at least. J12 maybe not so much as he lays several eggs and basically loses the game, along with a little help from TB.

    So then how do you get the team to be focused and intense and practice but intense and loose in games, not thinking but playing hard and having fun??

    Well, they can’t be thinking about coverages and techniques for one thing. They have to be confident in each other. If that breaks down this entire defense breaks down.

  42. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    It seems a few other people watched the same offensive display by Mini Martz that I did.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Passing on the running game
    by: Steve Gorten November 1st, 2010 | 6:23 PM
    CORAL GABLES — Hurricanes coach Randy Shannon made a smart move Saturday when he switched QBs at halftime, replacing junior Spencer Whipple with stronger-armed true freshman Stephen Morris.

    The rest of what the ‘Canes did on offense against Virginia didn’t make much sense — a lot of what offensive coordinator Mark Whipple has done this season hasn’t.

    How do you not commit to running the ball, especially after losing starting QB Jacory Harris?

    How do you take the ball out of the hands of Damien Berry, who had rushed for 100 yards four consecutive games, and the other stable of backs — Lamar Miller, Mike James and Graig Cooper – when you’re facing the 114th ranked rushing defense in the nation?

    How do you put it into the hands of inexperienced guys like Whipple and Morris and ask them to make plays when you’re facing the the 11th ranked passing defense in the nation?

    The Hurricanes finished with 6.2 yards per carry on 29 runs against the Cavaliers. Whipple and Morris combined to throw four INT.

    The afternoon could best be summed up with UM’s first drive of the second half.

    Morris hasn’t taken a snap all season. He’s on the road. The ‘Canes start the drive in Cavs territory, at the 49-yard line, only down two scores.

    Something to take the pressure off the QB? No.

    Whipple calls three straight pass plays. The ‘Canes punt.

    A few other notes about the offense:

    — I’m a bit baffled why the ‘Canes haven’t been able to better utilize speedsters Lamar Miller and Travis Benjamin to their advantage. Winning in college football is all about speed — at all positions – which is why you see the SEC have so much success. Miller and Benjamin are weapons other ACC teams wish they had.

    — On UM’s first offensive play after Harris was hurt, Benjamin raced 36 yards on a reverse. Yes, reverses don’t work when you run them too much, but against a less talented team like Virginia, UM could have at least tried it again once more the rest of the game.

    — Instead of trying to get Benjamin to go up and fight for balls like Leonard Hankerson does — Benjamin could have prevented Morris’ INT in the back of the end zone by playing DB – getting Benjamin the ball on bubble screens would allow him to create plays with his strengths.

    — As for Miller, it would seem to make sense to run some toss sweeps with him.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Check out the comments….

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2010/11/passing-on-the-running-game.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+sports/umweblog+(UM+Hurricanes+|+Sun-Sentinel+Blogs)

  43. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Funny how Manny’s only conversation was about the lack of a backup???

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Hyde: Will Mark Whipple figure it out now?

    By Dave Hyde November 3, 2010 08:12 AM
    Is this the week Mark Whipple figures out how his offense should be run? Because for a smart coach, the University of Miami offense coordinator keeps making the same strange mistakes.

    He has a veteran offensive line. He has five running backs who could play in the NFL. His regular quarterback (Jacory Harris) has thrown a penchant to throw interceptions (28 the past 20 games). He brought in two quarterbacks with little to no experience and had them heave the ball all over the field.

    What’s going on here? Randy Shannon’s big mistake this year seems to be not stepping in at the debacle at Virginia and telling Whipple to quit throwing the ball all over the field when they were dominating the run. (I first wrote about this after the Virginia game.

    And the penalties. For a major-college team to be getting this many penalties is absurd. Here’s a typical series at the start of the second quarter when it was a scoreless game. Miami started at its 6-yard line.

    1-10 M06 Cooper rush for 20 yards to the UM26
    1-10 M26 Harris pass complete to Miller, L. for 6 yards to the UM32
    2-4 M32 PENALTY UM holding (Robinson, M.) 10 yards to the UM22.
    2-14 M22 James, M. rush for 13 yards to the UM35; PENALTY UM
    holding 10 yards to the UM25.
    2-11 M25 Harris pass complete to Byrd, L. for 4 yards to the UM29
    (Wallace,De;Reynolds,L).
    3-7 M29 Harris,pass complete to Byrd, L. for 10 yards to the UM39, 1ST DOWN
    UM.
    1-10 M39 Harris, J. pass intercepted by Minnifield,C at the VA26

    Or this one in the second quarter after Harris was injured. Virginia leads 14-0 game at this point:

    1-10-M36 – Travis Benjamin runs for 36 yards
    1-10 V28 – Cooper runs for 6 yards
    2-4 V22 – Berry runs for 7 yards
    1-10 V15 Berry runs for no gain.
    2-10 V15 Whipple intercepted at the VA8

    Look at the running yards Miami was piling up. Yet Whipple kept insisting on passing the ball a lot in the way he has for two years now.

    You know who Whipple should talk with? Tony Sparano and Dan Henning. The Dolphins coaches manage the game in a way that would work better in college ball with the Hurricanes. Whipple’s way of throwing the ball around wins in the NFL if you have the right personnel. He doesn’t have the players to do what he wants at MIami. Why doesn’t he see that?

    Lots of folks are disappointed in Randy Shannon for good reason. But can anyone explain what Whipple is doing with this offense?

  44. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And there’s more. I promise, I did not write this. lol

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    Hyde: UM loss points to offensive issues

    By Dave Hyde October 31, 2010 02:17 PM
    If you read my stuff over the years, I second-guess coaches often on play decisions. They know their team, their strengths, their injuries and their general craft better than you or I do. But Miami’s loss to Virginia dredged up two years’ worth of play-calling issues that I just don’t understand.

    Jacory Harris’ final play of the game was the kind of play that has been a failed proposition in Miami’s offense too many times. A 40-yard pass. Thrown up grabs. And it gets intercepted. That Harris got hurt on the play only added to the misery of the call itself.

    Offensive coordinator Mike Whipple simply has not patience to run a college game plan. He must think the NFL’s way of throwing home-run balls is the way to win. It is in the NFL, if you study trends over the last sever years. But in college? In a game like Saturday’s where Miami had super ior talent?

    Let your talent win.

    Miami should have done exactly what the Dolphins want to do every week. Control the ball. Control the clock. Physically dominate. And mix in the quick passes to big receivers – slants, bubble screens. Let a receiving corp full of Michael Irvin Lites catch those short passes and try to break a big gain with their legs.

    Why regularly throw the ball up for grabs the way Miami keeps doing

    It’s funny, three years ago people called for more vertical passing at Miami. Now it’s too much. Far too much. It strays from the strength of the team. Harris can’t throw those passes consistently. And it cost them again Saturday.

    How many losses does Miami have to take before this is understood? Ohio State was lost because of four interceptions. Florida State simply steamrolled Miami. But losing to Virginia, no matter how nice the comeback looks, is unacceptable.

    This was an awfully called game. Even with under a minute left in the half, with his backup quarterback in the game, Mark Whipple was calling for downfield passes. Run out the clock. Get to half. Make adjustments. Virginia intercepted a ball and Miami was lucky it came with 4 seconds left in the half rather than earlier, as it could have been.

    It isn’t just that Whipple strayed from his offense’s strength with this barrage of deep passes this year that has led to too many turnovers. It’s that the defense has been put in bad positions. This isn’t excusing the defense at the end Saturday. It was asked to make a stop. It couldn’t. But Whipple coaches an offensive game that takes in no consideration of the defense.

    And so a season sinks.

  45. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Minnesota has already waived Moss. lol

  46. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    lol, Captain O.

    It ain’t just you, pal.

    But there’s gotta be more to this stink.

  47. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Also, if Morris is 6’2′ 183, J12 must still weigh 150 cause Morris looks significantly bigger and stronger than J12.

  48. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    MM01, if the offense tightens up and really uses these RBs, like Shannon has been preaching for a while now, everything else gets easier. The defense plays with a lead instead if desperately clinging to games, like they’ve done all season long, even against PItt, the offense couldn’t put them away.

    If we convert that 4th and 2 we probably go ahead and score but Byrd drops the ball. That’s why I’m suspicious about things coming out of his mouth cause he’s been as inconsistent as anyone. For every good catch he has a big drop, the last two weeks esp. But still, why call that play on 4th and 2 after a good run set up play action so well on 3rd? Didn’t he learn his lesson against UNC and Duke about calling passes, even short pass on 4ht down with no play-action?

    Then, when both Spencer and Morris have the ball inside the 15 yard line of VA, we don’t run and use play-action, we pass from the shotgun or the Idiot Formation.

    That’s 21 points to zero for UVA, since 21 of their points come off INTs.

    This completely changes the game. All with playcalling, with or without J12.

    That’s why I say we’ll see what Mini Martz is made of these next 3 weeks. We have the talent to beat each of these teams. But do we have the playcalling to outmaneuver them and can Shannon figure out how to focus these kids and get them “ready to play.”

    Inquiring minds want to know……

  49. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    miamimike01 says:
    November 2, 2010 at 9:27 PM

    PhillyCane

    Check out GridironStuds.com the Eye has a link for you. The guy running it is a Hurricane and does this kind of thing. Check with him, you won’t be sorry you did.

    Go look under friends and the links at the top of the page.

    Good luck to you and the young man and hope it gets him where he wants to be.

    Thank you very much Mike. That is greatly appreciated

  50. avatar
    BahamaCAne says:

    Capt, Dave Hyde must have being reading this blog, lol.

    Its good to see that finally someone in the media is starting to call out Whipple.

    What i would like to see is for them to now put these questions to RS. I am so tempted to call in on the Canes Hot-line on Thursday and ask RS about Mark Whipple’s play calling and lack of patience.

    Just RUN THE DAM BALL!

  51. Brett Romberg putting the team on blast.

    http://www.790theticket.com/jorgesedano.aspx

  52. can’t listen…what Romberg say?

  53. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    I guarantee you guys if the Canes dont run the ball more than 30-40x’s in this game we loose!

  54. But I thought Shannon WAS telling whipple to RUN the ball in those situations??? LOL

  55. So, who is ready for crabcake sliders, coconut vanilla cupcakes, sausage egg tater tot breakfast casserole, and eleventy orange and green jello shots?! :-D

  56. It’s a beautiful day!

  57. ^ Just trying to lighten the mood around here! :-D

  58. JSQ, Care Bears, too?

  59. Twisties?

    I’m listening…

    How about those Dolphins!!??

  60. Did someone say jello shots??

  61. I’ll actually be wearing my Ed Reed jersey on Sunday, Truth . . . and Ray is going to squash Henne like a little bug. GRRRRRR!!!!

    [puppies everywhere duck awaiting Hurriphin’s rage]

  62. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Cav Hyde and Gorton must have been reading eoth…lol…bcoz that’s the same thing u, cal, bahama, bg, and I have been saying for a month and half…Truth I appreciate what u and J bring with the inside nuggets when U can and semi understand the point u make bout the hc being the constant in the same type of losses since 05-10..but um clearly has an oc that doesn’t use his qb strengths..they may be few as far as jacorey go but if he is the HC’s man it’s his job to adjust…now if I read your previous hints on what going on inside the locker room bout it being split bc of the way he enable 12 then he’s lost the team period…it doesn’t matter what he does from here on out…IMO as much as I hate to say it there’s gotta be a change if some key players a pissed at him…truth also I remember you saying a few weeks back that this team has several issues and u didn’t know if this hc can fix them is this the reason why?? Bcoz if you got a fractured locker room and as sum1 said ain’t no one made as whip/cass the HNIC IS TOAST!! c1 I hope u right about the team circling the waggons with Morris but if it’s broke then it’s BROKEN!! it really said that the one of the very problems Shannon tried to solve with team divisiveness he created with the qb situation:-(

  63. You know what did me in with Ms. Pinder?

    Hearing her speak. I’m not one for accents…like, I think Salma and Penelope need to just get naked and STFU…but when I hear Lucy Pinder do an interview there was something terribly hot about her British Accent.

    That and her real pretty eyes…

  64. Wow, Truth, you are really into eyes, huh? You are always telling me how pretty mine are. That’s so sweet.

  65. I don’t care about the Dolphins, JSQ. The ravens can pound them all day and it won’t bother me one bit. I prefer for them to win but when they don’t it’s no big deal.

    Nothing like I am about the Canes!

  66. I personally enjoy Miami accents myself.

    [bats eyelashes]

  67. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Yeah jsq show is your leadership skills and lighten the mood of your team here…lol

  68. Pound all day? What? I didn’t see the rest of your post bc I got hung up on that.

  69. Nash, I’m trying! :-D

  70. Ju mean deece kind off axcent mujer? LOL

  71. Yeah, you know…pounding so hard you hear the skin slapping over and over and over again…especially sweaty, hot skin.

    Sometimes they can get pounded so hard they might scream out a little bit and ask for God or someone by name…

    Yeah. Pounding…

  72. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    kittens and puppies? that’s what we’ve been reduced to? LOL

    Hell, I’ll take a large dose of happy juice and call it good!

    Out till later folks.

    Behave all.

  73. I think that’s more Mexican, T.

    You don’t even have to try. It’s all about the inflection in your voice when you pronounce certain words. Certain expressions. Ending a statement sentence with an upward voice inflection. I start sounding like it after 10 minutes of tailgating just listening to all the Miami folk.

    Just talk how you normally do [when not visiting family in SC] and that does the trick.

  74. ^^^ in the football game, of course

  75. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    Especially you, Bernie

  76. I like those Midwest accents myself..

  77. Sometimes they can get pounded so hard they might scream out a little bit and ask for God or someone by name…

    – – – – –

    I’m assuming you are referring to Henne asking for Sparano after Lewis or Gooden sacks him, right? ;-)

  78. Behave?

    Pffffffffft!

    MIKE’S GONE! BRING OUT THE STRIPPERS!

  79. I think the Midwest accent is the LACK of an accent . . .

    BUT I’LL TAKE IT! :-D

  80. Canez1, I thought you said you had the strippers covered? Come on, buddy!

  81. That was supposed to Hispanic. If it were Mexican I wouldn’t ended the sentence with “Holmes” or “Esay”

    LOL

  82. Okay, let me clarify:

    I am a sucker for the Miami accent someone who is Irish and as white as me picks up from living in Miami his whole life.

    I guess I don’t know people with REAL Miami accents!

  83. Lol, Canechic!

  84. Nice, Truth! :-D

  85. Irish accents – Bono- just talk and sing to me baby!!!!

  86. avatar
    UM, until I lose my mind says:

    I think Randy is handcuffed by Shalala, sack her and the U is back to standards.

  87. Yes CC, when I think kittens that’s exactly what comes to mind ;-)

    …but less “furry” LOl

  88. I know someone like that JSQ. He’s real handsome, too!

  89. I thought you might get a good laugh truth!

  90. No, Truth, not that guy, I was talking about you!

    ;-)

  91. KL.

    Romberg’s interview is amazing!

  92. Sometimes they can get pounded so hard they might scream out a little bit and ask for God or someone by name…

    – – – – –

    I’m assuming you are referring to Henne asking for Sparano after Lewis or Gooden sacks him, right?

    SUUUUURE, Mary (Halo just went “ding!”)

  93. OMG you guys want to laugh this is awesome:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ez5fu24JLpM

  94. bg, I know, right?

    He was pretty fired up. He basically called the Canes a joke. :/

  95. CC I saw that on Sunday when he posted it on twitter. Hilarious. Shaq in a wig with boobs is pretty dang funny!

  96. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    GT must beat VT tomo night!!

  97. I would have rather seen him to the big ego song myself haha :-)

  98. Nicole is performing tonight for Homecoming for OCheer. Her boyfriend told her he would not be able to be go to Miami for Homecoming because Angry and I are not going. Guess what he flew in should up at her dorm room door this morning. To be young and in love….I tell her she is a very lucky girl :)

  99. Uh…yeah, suuuuuuuure Mary…two football players pounding is, uh, hot? Ok…smh

  100. Awwww, how sweet! :-)

    Oh, O-Cheer, brings back memories!!!!

    I miss Homecoming!!!!

  101. Truth, you are into speaking in code!

    ‘CANE ON ‘CANE POUNDING.

    Come on!

    GRRRRR!

  102. Canechic, the Princess half marathon I told you about is supposed to be really fun and they give you a training schedule. You can sign up here: http://www.teamintraining.org/

  103. I will check that out JSQ when I get home from work! Looks like fun.

  104. Look what RS is doing to us (both with our team and the arguing amongst fans). I’m sorry but RS is just not the coach for Miami.

  105. what he say bg? what romberg say?

  106. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    Ive heard ACCOUNTABILITY a lot from these interviews

  107. PhillyCane says:
    November 3, 2010 at 12:05 PM
    GT must beat VT tomo night!!

    Not happening. It is what to wish for though! Ha!

  108. Esteban.

    In short Romberg said the guys aren’t tough. Herbie said we play with no energy and go through the motions and he’s HUGELY disappointed.

  109. From Rivals….

    Leon Searcy’s Interview Yesterday Reply

    ——————————————————————————–
    was depressing.. said that the expectations of the current administration is now making him lower his expectations.. Said they just want the team to be competitive and as long as they don’t embarrass the University, they will be happy..

    The host asked him if he thinks Rany Shannn should be fired.. He said it depends onthe expectations.. If the expectations is to run a clean program and win around 8 games a year and be competitive, then no he shouldn’t be fired..

    If the expectation is to compete for national Championships and play in the big BCS games, then yes, he should be fired..

    The sad part is that he believes the Administration does have lower expectations than the fans… He honestly sounded like alot of fans who have given up any hope of this Canes team under the S&S Regime being anything like the ol’ skool canes teams..

    He called out the players for not responding when the starting QB got knocked out the game.. Basically called them soft.. Said if that would have happenned while he was playing there would have been a meeting on the sideline and the goal would have been to take the other teams QB out the game also..

    He’s pretty much giving up hope that this team will do anything significant under S&S..

  110. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    And they both said no one is accountable on this team.. Romberg talked about a guy who isnt playing a lot or is waiting in the wings needs to step up, let loose, and let his heart talk on all of these guys and show crazy emotion

  111. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    BG, when did Herbie come to that conclusion? Before he picked the Canes to run the table or after?

    He picked the Noles to go unbeaten after they beat the Canes. I wonder what his spot on analysis is now?

  112. need to get back to dudes shaving their heads when they come in.

  113. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Sorry

    It’s a softball I can’t resist.

    Why do you guys think no one gathered on the sideline to defend their QB?

    It’s a pretty automatic response in pee-wee, HS, and every level of college and pro ball. Someone knocks out your QB you go after theirs.

    So why didn’t Miami when Jacory Harris went down?

    Why do you think?

  114. avatar
    The Truth says:

    What message do you think those players get from their QB while he’s sitting over there by himself?

    Sure, you get the sound bite from a player or two saying “it’s no big deal..he’s just doing HIS thang”

    But how do you think the rest of the team feels?

    Why didn’t they go after someone Saturday?

  115. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I’ve seen guys get thrown out of FLAG football tournaments going after the other team for taking cheap shots against a player on their team they barely know…

  116. Oooh, I just had an idea . . . Rocky Road Cupcakes!

  117. oooh, s’mores cupcakes! with little teddy grahams! that would be cute . . .

  118. Truth,

    great point! It was noticeable after throwing 3tds against NC, J12 runs down the field to celebrate with the guys and they all ignore him…

  119. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    for what it’s worth, pro or con

    dshalala@miami.edu

    Kirby Hocutt, Athletic Director: athleticdirector@miami.edu

  120. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    sorry forgot one

    Randy Shannon, Head Coach: HurricaneFootball@miami.edu

  121. From the Herald wire: Some ACC schools get what they pay for

    Related Content
    http://ope.ed.gov/athletics/index.aspx
    By JOEDY McCREARY
    AP Sports Writer
    The Atlantic Coast Conference’s biggest spenders on football are some of its biggest winners.

    However, there are a few bargains to be found.

    An Associated Press review of the ACC members’ most recent complete gender-equity filings with the U.S. Department of Education shows success can follow big spending.

    During the 2008-09 academic year, the programs that spent the most on football were Miami ($20.9 million), Boston College ($19.4 million), Clemson ($18.8 million) and Virginia Tech ($18.2 million).

    Those schools have made six ACC championship game appearances and won two conference titles since the league expanded to 12 in 2005.

    Maryland and North Carolina State are on the opposite end of the spending spectrum, but are in the ACC title race this season.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/11/03/1906799/some-acc-schools-get-what-they.html#ixzz14FJwHyKH

  122. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Well so much for that argument^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  123. Bahama, compare that $20 to what Texas and Alabama spend on football. I’m curious what their numbers are.

  124. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Yeah…no. Not even close. Since when do ACC schools make any decent splash in college football. The bamas, UT’s and other big boy schools probably double that – if not more

    But your admin will look at those numbers and be quite satisfied with the allotment compared to the rest of the conference, no doubt.

  125. People need to stop talking about the McRib on Facebook because some people had a freaking hard boiled egg and some walnuts for lunch.

    Bastards.

  126. you know i’ve never tried the McRib. people were on the radio up here talking about it yesterday, too.

  127. Esteban, it’s f@cking awesome. You know what’s NOT awesome?

    A hard boiled egg and a handful of walnuts.

    GRRRRRR!

  128. is the mcrib on the dollar menu?

  129. No idea. The last time I was at McDonalds was with the tailgate crew after we beat FAMU.

    Fond memories. . .

  130. Could it be it all was so simple then . . .

    or has time rewritten every line?

    If we had the chance to do it all again . . .

    Tell me, would we? Could we?

    Memories . . . [of thinking the ‘Canes could possibly be NC contenders in my blind homer deluded mind]

  131. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Oh, no love for the Phins, huh?

    Benedict Arnolds……

    Anyone from S Fla who doesn’t root fanatically for The Dolphins, can go have an alcohol and barb wire orgy.

    I love the Baltimore Hurricanes too, but them dudes is ova, come Sun.

    Jello, that chic is going HAM in those shorts. I almost fainted.

  132. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Go Ham=Go Crazy/Hard/All In

  133. haha, you guys teach me something new every day! :-)

  134. I’m “going ham” on the tailgate on Saturday!

    Did I do it right, Hurriphin?

  135. Berry is out for Saturday.

    F&ck.

  136. Truth.

    To further elaborate. Why didn’t they come to help him off. Or tap his shoulder pads and say J12 we got this or ANYTHING to show they cared??? NOTHING! They did and played like it meant ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

  137. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    No Berry in the game we need him most……?

    SUNOVABICH.

    Mar Millz bout to go ham.

    Jello, you always go ham on tailgates. No ques’. Ever.

    You are the HTGIC.

  138. I ain’t worried about Berry being out…unless they start Cooper.

  139. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    I’m calling for Millz to score two TDs, at least, and notch a fifty yard+ run somewheres.

  140. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    Sigh……….HTGIC:

    Head Tailgater In Charge

  141. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Now wait, BG…

    Those same players are there IN practice. ON the sidelines and around each other and the coaches.

    You’ve got people that KNOW telling you no one is mad at the OC.

    You SEE the team react that way to their QB that got Debo’ed and I’m telling you guys more than a few MIAMI players probably had to control themselves from running over to him, Smokey style, yelling “you got knocked the f@ck out!”

    Is it right? I don’t know. But you all saw a team that didn’t respond to it “leader”

    So when I’m telling you it isn’t the OC do you guys really think I’m talking out if my a*s? You don’t see how the WR’s are short arming everything?

    What’s going on?

  142. Sorry Hurriphin, not good with the abbreviations, feeling a little brain dead right now from the project I’m working on.

    I just had to have the defense to the business judgment defense in securities law re-explained to me for even though I handled that for Freddie Mac.

    This is why I should have had the McRib for lunch . . .

  143. Only so many times you can get blasted by a safety or LB before a WR starts getting pissed at his QB.

    Jacory need to be pissed with the OL tho.

  144. The state of Florida is going to Hell in a Handbasket….think I will move to Oregon with my son….oh Nicole will not be all that happy….maybe somewhere in between….God no never Texas!

    I wish I was going to be at the tailgate :(

  145. Me too, Canechic!

    VA Tech is going to be awesome, though. I’m making chicken enchiladas, jalepeno popper dip, and some sort of cupcakes. We will have fun then! :-)

  146. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Truth U wrong for that…lol…

  147. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    The Truth says:
    November 3, 2010 at 5:35 PM

    Now wait, BG…

    Those same players are there IN practice. ON the sidelines and around each other and the coaches.

    You’ve got people that KNOW telling you no one is mad at the OC.

    You SEE the team react that way to their QB that got Debo’ed and I’m telling you guys more than a few MIAMI players probably had to control themselves from running over to him, Smokey style, yelling “you got knocked the f@ck out!”

    Is it right? I don’t know. But you all saw a team that didn’t respond to it “leader”

    So when I’m telling you it isn’t the OC do you guys really think I’m talking out if my a*s? You don’t see how the WR’s are short arming everything?

    What’s going on?
    —————————————————
    Truth, if what you say is so true, then why did the team go in the tank for 2 qts when J-12 went out?

    If they cant stand J-12, their play after he went out sure didnt look like it.

    If its as bad as you, BG and others want to imply, what was the purpose of the players only meeting? Why was it not address it then?

    Lastly, when the backups were brought in, the qb’s were different but one thing remained the same, they all threw INT.

    Do you blame that on the 3 Qb’s, Whipple’s play calling, or the opposing team’s DC and his players?

  148. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I know Nash but I was waiting for someone to notice and relate it to what I’ve been saying around here.

  149. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Bahama

    Who are you fighting with?

    Were you in the players only meeting? I wasn’t. But I know a couple of good friends that were.

    What do you think I’m implying? Did YOU see his teammates respond to him? Do YOU see a defense go head hunting?

    Did you not hear Alonzo Highsmith question the same thing? You don’t think HE knows a little bit about the situation?

    Lastly, was that the first time I’ve questioned the teams commitment to it’s starter at QB? Uhhhh, NO!!!

    So I’m not implying ANYTHING. I’m giving you a home run of an example that is as clear as day without having to really say anything.

    And I don’t know what game you watched, but the team was in the tank the whole game…

  150. Truth I am not sure we even read anymore, lol! :)

  151. avatar
    The Truth says:

    LOL

    So true cc

  152. Wow, Truth, you really know how to um . . .

    multitask.

  153. I’ve seen the whole year how 12 has been sorta alienated. His body language and confidence have been on E since tOSU. I saw how even the way in which they celebrated was different for 17 than it was for 12. Bahama, they OBVIOUSLY didn’t care enough!

  154. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And Bahama

    You write stuff as if you think I have some agenda.

    Let me explain something…I LOVE THIS PROGRAM.

    I want Shannon and Jacory and everyone to win and graduate and be super stars.

    Period.

    But I also call it like it is. And I AM privy to a lot of stuff I can’t talk about. So when I see a debate where clearly one side is WRONG I do my best to try to streer to conversation to the side of REALITY.

    Even if that reality sucks.

    And this really SUCKS.

    Believe me, this is worse than Butch ever had it. Things are BAD and it’s both the adults AND the kids. I’m not making up anything or implying anything.

    You may not know who “J” is but Bg and JSQ can vouch for him as a bonafide “insider” so if you don’t want to listen to my corny ass the at least pay attention when he makes a comment.

    No one on here gives more to the school in time AND $$$ then anyone posting on the website. And if HE’s sad, you ALL should be sad.

    Ill support this program through anything but I’m allowed to complain and I WILL call it like I see it.

    I’ve been saying this for WEEKS and I’ve been getting Internet yelled at because of it. That’s ok…I’m a big boy. But i also told you guys I’d come and say “I told you so…”

    I TOLD U SO

    Keep debating for the sake of pushing an opinion that you have a good leg to stand on…I get it. The playcalling looks suspect. But you’re wrong…it’s NOT the OC. Does that mean his job is safe?

    No. Because he might not make it out on the field the same way a lot of these players aren’t and it’s not right.

    But thats how it is in CG these days…

  155. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    The Truth says:
    November 3, 2010 at 6:19 PM

    Bahama

    Who are you fighting with?

    Were you in the players only meeting? I wasn’t. But I know a couple of good friends that were.

    What do you think I’m implying? Did YOU see his teammates respond to him? Do YOU see a defense go head hunting?

    Did you not hear Alonzo Highsmith question the same thing? You don’t think HE knows a little bit about the situation?

    Lastly, was that the first time I’ve questioned the teams commitment to it’s starter at QB? Uhhhh, NO!!!

    So I’m not implying ANYTHING. I’m giving you a home run of an example that is as clear as day without having to really say anything.

    And I don’t know what game you watched, but the team was in the tank the whole game…
    —————————————————————–
    No Truth, i dont know what game you were watching.

    The Canes lost because they cant stand J-12?

    The team was in the tank the entire game?

    Explain the UNC game the week before? What they werent in the tank then? So what happened between the UNC game and the Virginia game? Was J-12 shown more favoritism after that game? Did Shannon sprinkle his ice cream with more sprinkles?

    WTF!!!!!!

    BULL Sh!@!

    BULL Sh!@!

    BULL Sh!@!

    I dont buy it one bit!

    When a qb gets knocked out of a game, how many times do you see the team try to take out their opposing teams QB. Come on man. This is footall. Most often times Qb’s arent injured because of a head hunting lineman of line backer. sometimes they hit the ground awkwardly or its a solid hit.

    The hit J-12 took was a clean, legal hit. There was no need, nor was it warranted to take out Virgina’s QB because it wasnt dirty. it was a clean, sold hit.

    The criticism J-12, Randy are taking is overblown and when things arent going well, some of you latch on to the small things to prove your point.

    The team hates J-12 but yet when he goes out of the game, the team is in shock, heads are down, they look like they are shitting their pants and no one on offense or defense can make a play.

    Yet when they win, crickets!

    The guys didnt come to play for J-12. They came to play for the U.

    If the team hates their qb because of favoritism, then every team in college football and in the NFL must be having the same issues cause we all know QB’s are treated differently.

    I will say this again, when J-12 was knocked out of the game, the score was still 0-0. The majority of the time when your starting qb gets knocked out of the game, they loose.

    Its not because the team WAS IN THE TANK!

    they may not like J-12, but that had nothing to do with this loss!

  156. Well Truth, you know I have always been listening to your good word (and couldn’t agree more as on the field I see the same), but let me ask you this? Are we going to get anymore of those great chicken wings this year?

  157. Yeah, Truth, give us some IMPORTANT information! Wings or no wings?!

  158. Truth.

    Word!

    PREACH…CHUUUUCH!

  159. And on a serious note (well was sort of serious about the chicken wings) can you elaborate why with J12 or would that just be speculation? Or maybe should I ask is it more than just the special treatment?

  160. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Truth I did notice that no one went out to even check on 12 and mentioned it to a buddie of mine…but I didn’t here coz I didn’t want to kick s wasp nest…but I can see Bahamas, cavs, and cals point to the playcsllinf was the same and so were the results…I’m just saying…my question for u and u can answer me or not…is this team a lost cause with this hc?

  161. Truth.

    I like Bahama. He’s passionate about the Canes and I wish the team had HALF of his fire. But its time to invoke the Jay-Z quote rule…

  162. Nashville.

    My personal opinion is HE’S lost them. IF they salvage anyhing it will be because they did it 100% for themselves.

    We’ll see…

  163. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Bahama

    I don’t know you…I am not picking fights with you…but you’re nuts.

    You fought with me after UNC when I was being all “negative” because Jacory still looked like crap and shouldn’t been benched. You guys thought it was “negative” of me to present you guts with the reason why Jacory suddenly looked good midway through the 3rd qt:

    3 freshmen Corners later and the final outcome looked good.

    It wasn’t good.

    How did Miami come out against UVA?

    What did Byrd say?

    Why are you fighting something that is so obvious it even plays out on the fields on Saturdays??

    You keep toiling over excuses about THIS loss…I’m talking about the erosion of a foundation that has led to losses over the past 3 SEASONS.

    And the team looks the same in ALL of them no matter what excuse you guys come up with.

  164. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    think team unity, Bahama.

    have you ever played ball, beginning in HS?

    Read between the lines. If you pay attention, and you do, some of theses problems aren’t hard to figure out.

  165. avatar
    The Truth says:

    …and let me get this straight…

    You think I’m lying? That I’m promoting BS???

    Ok, buddy…go get your te-te, curl up next to your mommy and maybe she’ll tell you another fantasy about your Miami Hurricanes.

    I don’t lie, buddy. Ever.

  166. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    bg1906 says:
    November 3, 2010 at 6:58 PM

    Nashville.

    My personal opinion is HE’S lost them. IF they salvage anyhing it will be because they did it 100% for themselves..
    ————————————-
    Really? If they salvage anything they will do it themslves? So to this point in the season, who was the team doing it for?

  167. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    miamimike01 says:
    November 3, 2010 at 7:00 PM

    think team unity, Bahama.

    have you ever played ball, beginning in HS?

    Read between the lines. If you pay attention, and you do, some of theses problems aren’t hard to figure out.
    ——————————————————–>
    The Truth says:
    November 3, 2010 at 7:01 PM

    …and let me get this straight…

    You think I’m lying? That I’m promoting BS???

    Ok, buddy…go get your te-te, curl up next to your mommy and maybe she’ll tell you another fantasy about your Miami Hurricanes.

    I don’t lie, buddy. Ever.
    ———————————————————>

    Whatever!

  168. Mike, if you want a quick laugh, check the draft of MKF and see who I picked to win a certain matchup.

  169. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, I get the picture now and it must be a pretty old situation, like at least a year. This is interesting. Quite the curveball. When did this split develop? And I’m assuming things really tanked after OSU and then more of the same at Pitt. And of course Shannon’s position alienated the rest of the team even more because they knew the real reasons and what he was trying to do by blaming things on the WRs, even though he did have a thin grain of truth.

    However, he’s making a cardinal mistake in leadership. Cardinal, cardinal, cardinal. He really needs to talk to JJ about this one.

    And to further read into what you’ve said, Whipple wanted to put Morris in direct competition with him to force him to follow the script and improve. Shannon said no, Morris is going to RS.

    Serious, serious misjudgement right there.

    Overall very, very interesting and rather disappointing in Shannon but I’m sure he had some logic behind his actions, or lack thereof. To some degree his hands were tied but those are serious risks he’s running. Discipline a player or alienate the entire team.

    Well, it seems like the Miami Football Gods have conspired to solve the situation once and for all cause if Morris gets in and balls, which he seems completely able to do, and we win out, AND we start scoring points and big plays,. without the INTs and the players rally around him, Shannon’s hands will be tied and he’ll have to truly live by what he always preaches….COMPETITION and the best player will play.

    Haha, this is actually kind of funny. And now with Berry down, Miller and James can really show their skills.

    I just hope Mini Martz doesn’t call a bunch of stupid plays. I still stand by my playcalling points because Mini Martz showed the same idiotic logic when Spencer and Morris were in but I see the deeper problems you’re talking about.

    Cool. All I wanted was to get the facts straight.

  170. Yikes!

  171. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bahama, Truth’s been coy about this but it all adds up if you connect all the dots, esp. J12’s sideline situations, the WRs lack of enthusiasm, hell, even the OL’s lack of enthusiasm, MAYBE EVEN THE DEFENSE’S….lol

    Shannon, despite all of his toughness, determination and grit, has shown some soft spots for certain things. I’m not sure this is exactly a soft spot but it’s clearly behaving like a soft spot and it’s occuring in the worst place it could possibly occur: HIS TEAM.

    As I said, it seems like the Spirits of Hurricane Football have figured out the solution to this empasse for him.

  172. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I’m not sure about wings for this week. I more than likely have little T and that makes it tough to tailgate…

    I’ve already talked about it enough. I couldn’t help but resist the opportunity earlier to SHOW you what I’ve been saying about Jacory and the coaches and the team.

    In 2006 there was an all out brawl because of something chippy with a kicker.

    That’s what you do…

    …that hit on Jacory was within the rules, but it was far from clean. That hit was with bad intentions…as it should have been. I’m all for going after the QB like that. That’s good football.

    But when it’s your QB you make sure you return the favor on someone.

    I’m glad I’m not the only one who noticed.

    You’re right bg…Jay-z rule applies here. Shwarma…we’ll talk at the next game I see you…

  173. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And JSQ, I’m an expert multitasker. Hands, battery operated devises and appendages…

  174. avatar
    Hurriphin says:

    When do we start the UMD-UM predictons?

  175. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    With the absence of J12 and Berry, the team now has to truly rally around each other, play for each other and perhaps slowly regain trust and confidence in their HC.

    It’s a tricky slope though and Shannon’s refusal to admit mistakes or problems can make it even more difficult. Then again, maybe that’s just the public persona. Maybe in private he does admit to himself.

    Truth, what are the odds that someone like JJ could tell him, “You fuked up and almost lost your team by not practicing what you preach. Now go out there and be completely impartial the rest of the way and let them SEE and HEAR that what happend in the past will NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN. ”

    Cause that’s what MUST happen for this team this year and for this program going forward. He absolutely MUST clear the air and re-establish his player’s confidence.

  176. Wow a man who can multitask….Got to love it!

  177. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, the fact that there WASN’T any attempt, any anger, ANYTHING says a great deal. Now I’m not sure exactly what it says about this team but it definitely says a lot.

    Does it reflect on them entirely as a team and the lack of unity they really have??

    OR

    Does it reflect squarely on the player who was hit and how he’s placed himself ABOVE THE TEAM for a while now and the kid’s simply don’t care?

  178. avatar
    miamimike01 says:

    It’s a bigger issue(s) than just play calling.

    That’s reality.

    I’ll check it in a minute, JSQ…

  179. You guys really think they are going to fire the ball boy too? I was really starting to like him….darn!

  180. avatar
    The Truth says:

    It sucks cav…and you know I go all the way back to the SS days.

    I NEVER just argue.

    Ever.

    You guys have GREAT points…I get it. And if there wasn’t the underlying issues they’d be completely valid.

    But the HC has let those issues go waaaaaay too far and when you’re watching the starting QB get off the field without even so much as a shoulder pad pop by a teammate then that ALONE should show you something.

    Like I said…Miami BRAWLED over a bump on a kicker…

    Think about that.

  181. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And I should add, just like K Wrong placed himself above the team and never improved and didn’t really give a damn, so the team played.

    It only takes ONE cell to become a cancer on the whole body.

  182. Bahama.

    Have you ever played team sports? Yes you do it for yourself and your teammates but when your coach gets to the point where u don’t listen to him, don’t believe in him or what he has to say, then the coach loses the ability to “rally” the troops. They don’t play for or believe in him. Its not ALL the players feeling like this but enough that it is a problem. How many of these players would run through a wall for coach right now? Not many IMO. Its all about do u believe in the CEO and what he is selling…I don’t think a lot of players are. Lots of players were pissed at the Wesley and Collier situations too.

    A house divided CANNOT stand!

  183. Nice pick, JSQ!

    Too Funny!

  184. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Can ask you guys something?

    This is an honest question…

    You mean to tell me, watching the game, NONE of you thought it odd that NO ONE walked over to the QB? (I gotchu Nash)

    None of you noticed?

  185. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, so it is an old issue? Hmmmm. Well, there are always challenges along the path, and they usually crop up to expose parts of ourselves that we didn’t want to see or didn’t know were really there and were influential.

    Shannon’s facing his right now. I just hope someone like JJ tells him he’s fukin up cause Shannon is very skilled at tuning out the world and focusing on what’s right in front of him ONLY.

    That is a strength but it can also be a very, very dangerous weakness, esp. when you;re in a leadership position.

  186. Bahama: it’s like when you find out Santa, the Easter Bunny, and the Tooth Fairy are really your parents. It sucks. But it’s the Truth. Where there is smoke there is fire. Again, it sucks. But listen to what T, BG. and J are telling you. There is alot of credibility in that group. We are all Canes. We all want the best. Hope everyone is well. Sh*ty season so far. Still kind of excited for the game this weekend, have no idea what team might show up. Taking my 6 year old to the game Saturday. Small crowd is perfect for that. Probably won’t be there till right at 12pm, but hope to see you all at VT and USF tailgates. Go Canes!

  187. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And when the lead dr let’s the cancer cell fester without limits…

  188. avatar
    The Truth says:

    …and that’s just ONE issue.

    There ARE and HAVE BEEN others.

    It’s just coming to a head all at once and VERY quick because there IS talent and DESIRE on this team and it’s being held back by these ridiculous handlings of situations…

  189. All I have to say is Kevin Garnett is a complete @ss.

  190. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, I didn’t even think about it but now that you mention it, I remember reading that he “walked to the bus by himself.” After a concussion??? You’d think someone would be walking with him.

    Well, it’s clear to me now. Shannon has to stand face to face with himself in the mirror and really see the difference between having “favorites” like JJ had, and playing favorites that put a player before the team.

    I don’t think he can see it right now, and it explains a great deal, the non Xs and Os things. But someone has to tell him the gravity of this situation. He was probably too focused on what was directly in front of him to notice how Coker let a similar thing happen, so he didn’t learn the lesson.

    I don’t think it’s too late largely because Morris is going to ball and is going to FORCE him to let real competition take place.

  191. USF plays the way we SHOULD..

    Fired up over any little thing. As a team. Not often do you see their defense make a play and NO one celebrate or acknowledge the guy who made the play..

    The more I watch USF (and realize they’re 4-3 — right on par with us) the more I realize that this year..they may get us.

  192. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, do you think this is the main reason behind the offense’s inconsistency or do you think that’s more technical? I don’t mean the playcalling, I mean the mental mistakes…drops, penalties etc.

    Also, since you know people who know people, what are the chances someone like JJ could really sit Shannon down and tell him, “You’re fukin up and you’re about to fail at your dream job.”

    To me, those are the only types of people who could get through to him, since he obviously can’t see himself.

  193. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie, USF is totally up and down, hot and cold just like us. Loom at their record.

    With Morris in we SHOULD stomp them. If J12 gets in and the team completely bails on Shannon, anything could happen.

  194. avatar
    The Truth says:

    …people DO try cav

    He won’t answer the calls…and even that is hitting the papers.

    Not cool

  195. Truth.

    Absolutely the first thing I said to my wife. I said that should get them going now. Then nothing. No we got u, no signs of support, no bouncing up and down, nothing like the FIU kicker situation. Just like damn he got smashed.

  196. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    SURELY no one world throw one of those “look out blocks” for the qb huh? Or a wr try to catch/not catch a ball? Like someone said if other ppl notice there is an internal prob then the powers that be KNOW TOO!!! I know it’s been written that his job is safe but could it be the “vote of confidence before the firing”…

  197. avatar
    The Truth says:

    That’s what I’ve been preaching Cav…it’s all about the intangibles. When your OL is inconsistent and your WRs drop passes AND the QB isn’t following the script it gets dicey…playcalling is really and truly the least of it.

  198. Yea but they play with a purpose.. Every game it’s the same, win or lose..

    When we lose, and we lose games that are just..WTF.. Our team has a certain body language that I haven’t been able to put my finger on.. It’s just..EVERYTIME we’ve lost a strange game..

    At least in the Ohio State game our defense fought till the very end,

  199. avatar
    The Truth says:

    It was around midnight on Tuesday last week that I mentioned the VT yelling at Jacory thing against UNC. Next day it was an actual topic…

    No one noticed that, either? I’m serious…you guys didn’t think anything of that in conjunction with what I’ve been telling you guys?

    You guys on here were saying something about
    it being at whipple after the fact and I have to ask:

    Who do you believe 7 was yelling at right now?

    This isn’t a new thing…

  200. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Benny that’s true sort of. I see what you mean.

    Truth, that really is not smart. This is what I mean about that ability to tune out the world and focus on what’s in front of you and NOTHING else becoming a serious liability.

    I can’t believe he won’t answer calls from JJ though. That’s crazy.

  201. avatar
    The Truth says:

    …and it’s not the only thing either…

  202. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Oh I don’t know who’s calls he’s not taking Cav…I just know it’s even been documented that he’s stopped taking calls from former players and friends

  203. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Bg a couple of un named rbs had that “oh well look” when 12 walked by…I was like wt?…do remember T dropping hint like I said earlier…and the j comment of ain’t no one gonna say boo to j12…keep the team united was one of the thing I thought Shannon would be good at dispite circumstanes but I guess not…and what’s the reason he distanced himself/the team from certain former players???

  204. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Well, it’s going to hit one way or another. Either he will come to his senses or the team will abandon ship. It’s really that simple. The Hurricane Gods have given him a 2nd chance with J12’s injury cause I think Morris will take it and run with it.

    Let’s hope someone like Irvin or JJ can talk to him personally.

    BUT if he just goes in his shell, and denies what’s happening around him, he needs to be relieved of his command. He’s committing some cardinal sins of leadership and he’s going to be punished unless he rights his ship and recognizes his errors and how serious they are.

    One or the other will happen.

  205. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    November 3, 2010 at 7:52 PM
    Oh I don’t know who’s calls he’s not taking Cav…I just know it’s even been documented that he’s stopped taking calls from former players and friends

    >>>>>>

    Not wise, very, very stupid. This is a textbook lesson of a strength becoming a damaging weakness.

    Truth, I know this situation w/J12 has developed but when did it start? Last year or in 2008?

  206. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    T I remember u saying he wasn’t yelling at whip, but I watched the game and didn’t see that part of the game tho…so I couldn’t comment, plus I don’t watch replays win/lose

  207. avatar
    The Truth says:

    For me…I’ve heard all the rumblings since day 1. Honestly, I thought a lot of it was racially motivated. I thought the people that were pointing out some curious things were just missing the bigger picture.

    But I’m at the point to where I don’t see that bigger picture any closer to fruition. So, the excuses for the some pretty curious individual acts look really really bad collectively.

    Those racially motivated people I thought were stupid are looking like soothsayers today because they were exactly right.

    I thought there was a message in a lot if what was happening but today I can’t hear it. It’s not making any sense.

    This obsession with protecting the QB is just terrible and really the straw that broke the camels back in my eyes. It makes everything else inexcusable because it’s destroying the team.

    Even if he did give the team the best chance to win…If that’s what you believe…

  208. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth,. this situation is almost tragic because you know he, more than any of us, knows the Xs and Os and really bleeds Orange and Green.

    But he can’t see himself clearly enough to see how it’s coming apart at the seams BETWEEN THE LINES, not with the Xs and Os.

    This reminds me of Tiger’s debacle in some ways, a person so focused that they can’t see themselves.

  209. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Yeah Nash…the very end of it made the TV broadcast. VT went over and chewed Jacory a new one.

    It wasn’t just him either and it spilled over into the locker room…

  210. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, give me an analagous example of what he was doing early on…

    Also, why do you think he’s so worried about hurting J12’s feelings or whatever? Does he see him as a surrogate son or something or is it just because he’s sort of stuck with him, or at least was stuck with him?

  211. avatar
    The Truth says:

    I can’t honestly say when it started…maybe over the summer?
    But i know week by week here this season it’s gotten worse and worse

  212. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Cav I think it’s just Randy’s belief system. He thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obviously he’s not trying to divide his team.

  213. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    November 3, 2010 at 8:03 PM
    Yeah Nash…the very end of it made the TV broadcast. VT went over and chewed Jacory a new one.

    It wasn’t just him either and it spilled over into the locker room…

    >>>>>>

    Gotcha. And Shannon’s just acting like there’s nothing to it.

    So even the tirade after OSU didn’t do much cause the players knew J12 wasn’t taking care of his role and RS didn’t discipline him, in fact he shielded him from reality.

    Hmmm. Something of a classic situation to be honest, in organizational terms. It happens all the time in business and often has similar results, though not as public.

  214. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    November 3, 2010 at 8:06 PM
    Cav I think it’s just Randy’s belief system. He thinks he’s doing the right thing. Obviously he’s not trying to divide his team.

    >>>>>>>

    That’s the tragedy of it. A big part of his belief system is “tune out your environment, don’t open up to anyone because that only leads to pain and heartache.”

    This was his survival mechanism, along with “focus on what is immediately in front of you.”

    I think he can come out of this but it will have to come from someone like JJ or Irvin. Maybe Tubberville.

  215. Truth if you are implying that certain parts of the team are quitting because they are unhappy with other areas….then I do not respect any of them…..that is such a huge cop out and the only people they hurt are themselves…i.e. Randy Moss, Terrell Owens…..no one respects a quitter!

  216. I don’t think they’re quitting in the classic meaning of the word…

    It’s difficult to have fun, be yourself on the field, when every single little detail is being controlled. It’s oppressive

  217. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    CC,that’s true but I think it’s a mixed bag. I don’t think the kids actively dislike RS but they definitely dislike how he’s handling certain things. That affects their devotion and enthusiasm, no matter how you slice it. It does any and everywhere it happens. It shouldn’t but it does.

  218. Understand guys but they have a limited amount of time there and if they want to behave that way, it will only hurt them in end. Their career, their choice.

  219. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    miamimike01
    November 3, 2010 at 8:22 PM
    I don’t think they’re quitting in the classic meaning of the word…

    It’s difficult to have fun, be yourself on the field, when every single little detail is being controlled. It’s oppressive

    >>>>>>

    MM01, that would be a deal-killer, a true kill-joy. He’s got to learn. If he really evaluates himself every year after each season, he needs to do it with an impartial 3rd party. I recall him saying that he learned to let the assistants do their job and not micro-manage so much. haha Sounds like he needs to revisit that point, and include the players.

  220. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    canechic
    November 3, 2010 at 8:29 PM
    Understand guys but they have a limited amount of time there and if they want to behave that way, it will only hurt them in end. Their career, their choice.

    >>>>>>>

    CC, that;’s a damn good point. I can’t argue with that.

  221. avatar
    The Truth says:

    The best thing romberg said was the fact that gore was going to start over Portis and that pushing portis to leave to the NFL.

    But how hard did that push Gore to drive himself to TAKE that spot…how hard did it drive portis to not LET him take it.

    Had Gore not blown his knee out, Portis would have ridden pine by the end of that season. Why? Because Gore was better and he was going to play. Period

    What’s my point:

    As a player on THIS team there isn’t much of that drive. Decisions are being made and the coaches and players are scratching their heads together. It IS oppresive and its NO fun.

    the best players are NOT going to see the field in some cases and when the starter knows that, they naturally don’t play as hard. When the kid that should be playing knows that he’s defeated.

    Competition isn’t always a reality at Miami anymore no matter what the HC says

    The other point Romberg made was about the kid that didn’t finish the drill on time and getting his a*s kicked in the locker room by the other players.

    that;s god damn right.

    Thats not happening with this crew…

  222. avatar
    The Truth says:

    As I said last night…I don’t see a happy ending with this

  223. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, how in the hell can Shannon NOT let the competition speak for itself?? Those were the first words out of his mouth when he took the job?

    There HAS to be some confused logic behind this.

  224. Gore was an absolute monster his freshman year and he saw SO little time.. Only thing Portis had on him was shiftiness — when Gore hit top speed dude was STROKING and he was QUITE a big chunkier than Portis so if he were to drop his shoulder.. He’d get somewhere lol.

    Miss those days.

  225. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Seriously, that concept is SACRILEGIOUS to the U. Shannon himself said that the only reason he was able to play his junior or senior year was because someone went down in Fall camp, but that he came into camp out of shape and was about to lose his job before the player got injured.

    Truth, I can see a happy ending but it will only come if RS sees what’s he’s doing, and it’s clear he doesn’t and isn’t listening to people who are trying to tell him, at least not yet.

    He still has a chance but it’s got to click IN HIS HEAD.

  226. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The other point Romberg made was about the kid that didn’t finish the drill on time and getting his a*s kicked in the locker room by the other players.

    that;s god damn right.

    Thats not happening with this crew…

    >>>>>>>>>>

    That takes seniors and juniors who have done it on the field, AND certain mentality and passion. I think we have some players who could grow into that but they’re not seniors. Maybe a few juniors but not really.

  227. I’m going to go on record and say UM beats UM!

    Seriously, I think they’re will be a little pep in everyone’s step with Morris in the game.

    Close, but Miami wins.

  228. avatar
    The Truth says:

    The horese collar rule is horse sh*t

  229. What station did Romberg interview with?

  230. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    MM01, we should beat them. If J12 is as much of a cancer as it seems, I think the entire team will play better, esp. if the offense starts making plays. I also like Berry being out, as much as I know he loves Orange and Green, James and Miller are the game-breakers.

    Those two injuries could open up a lot of things for this team.

    But even if we win out, RS still has to face himself or he’ll be walking down this road again next year. At some point he either has to see his flaws, admit them and correct them, or he’s going to be fired, oddly FOR THE SAME REASONS COKER WAS FIRED.

    How crazy is that??

  231. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    790

  232. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Best part of the Romberg interview….

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    BR: All I know is that the guys we won with weren’t exactly on the straight and narrow. We looked it. We acted it. We were great in the community. We put on this nice outside facade where we would shake your hand and take a picture with your kid. But when it came to the field and being with each other it was ‘throw down’ like anything I’ve ever seen. I’ve met guys that, shit, I probably saw on America’s Most Wanted. It was a breed that I’ve never, ever seen before. You got beat up if you didn’t run well enough in the offseason conditioning. You got whooped. It was not acceptable to bring the team down. The team was held to a certain standard. Even with talented guys like EJ, Reggie Wayne and Santana Moss, those guys ran 110 meter in 11 seconds and they did twenty of them in a row. And if you were the fat kid that couldn’t make your time at 18, you got pummeled in the locker room, because you cost everybody else the coach’s faith in you, if you want to call it that. And it didn’t even have to go all the way to the coaches. It had to go to the players. Just being accountable for that guy. If you did not accomplish what everybody else was accomplishing, you were cast out. You were not part of the group. And I don’t know how many guys on that team now are just riding that wave, and just wanna be on that football team, being able to go home and say, yeah I’m wearing my track suit that I got from the ‘dot com’ ‘cc,’” whatever the hell Bowl game they’ve been going to. You know what I mean? It ain’t about wearing the track suit. It’s about playing with the guy next to you. It’s about bleeding with the guy next to you. It’s about not letting him down. Have him go home and talk to his family about you. You know what I mean? Tell them how much of a bad ass this guy is that I play next to. That’s what I did! Four years of my college career, I just talked about how bad ass everybody else was.

    Read more: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sedano-says/2010/11/former-cane-romberg-tears-into-current-players-.html#ixzz14GvoGcTg

  233. Not sure how accurate these stats are.. if they’re accurate, pretty interesting.. Butch had some WINS under his belt.. And it seemed like EVERY year was a loss with him..

    Howard Schnellenberger FOUR YEARS at Miami: 41-16

    Jimmy Johnson FIVE YEARS at Miami: 52-9

    Dennis Erickson SIX YEARS at Miami: 63-9

    Butch Davis SIX YEARS at Miami: 51-20 *ON PROBATION*

    Larry Coker SIX YEARS at Miami: 60-15

    Randy Shannon THREE & HALF YEARS at Miami 26-20

  234. avatar
    hurricanedave69 says:

    from T

    What’s my point:

    As a player on THIS team there isn’t much of that drive. Decisions are being made and the coaches and players are scratching their heads together. It IS oppresive and its NO fun.

    the best players are NOT going to see the field in some cases and when the starter knows that, they naturally don’t play as hard. When the kid that should be playing knows that he’s defeated.

    Competition isn’t always a reality at Miami anymore no matter what the HC says
    ——————
    I posted yesterday that when I was at the U, I had access to practice and was friends with many of the players . A lot of internal turmoil occurred because the best players didn’t always start or see the field. (I’m 68)

    The team I’m talking about went 3-7 with a 1st team all-american QB, one of the U’s all-time greats.

    maybe history does repeat itself.

  235. If I hear one more person scream they’d want Chris Peterson of Boise State to coach @ Miami..

    Seriously.

    ANYONE who has left the confines of Boise, Idaho to COACH football elsewhere has FAILED MISERABLY.

  236. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Benny, the only record that should really be compared is Schnell’s cause the condition Shannon inherited was most like his. Everyone else walked into something that was already built and rolling, even Butch. He walked into a 10-2 team that still had multiple NFL draftees.

    HOWEVER, this year really should’ve been the year where things started to turn the corner. And honestly, I was prepared to accept the mistakes of this year ALTHOUGH they really shouldn’t be happening with as many juniors in key positions as he’s had.

    Now that the deeper problems have come to light, this year makes sense, even with Mini Martz’s playcalling. The games we lost, except for UVA, didn’t have much to do with his playcalling. OSU and FSU were about mistakes and intensity, not playcalling.

    Which go back to problem A. lol

    Shannon has a window of hope with Morris and Miller/James but unless he really looks in the mirror and straightens himself out, it’s going to happen again and again and again. It’s not a Xs and Os problem. He has that down. It’s leadership between the lines.

    It’s crazy for someone who’s seen as much as he has in football to be making these mistakes. Just bananas.

  237. May go back to breaking promises that he made recruits..

    As much as I absolutely HATE it I hate to even MENTION the race card..

    I only do it though because I remember a stink in Tallahassee in the early 2000’s when there was a quarterback duel for a short while between Chris Rix and Adrian McPherson.. A majority of FSU’s offense was..well, black — and they’d tank when Rix was on the field in certain games and get McPherson in the game.. Only to SHOW OUT and BALL all over teams they were playing. When Bowden made a promise that he was going to start a quarterback over another, he kept that damn promise till said player graduated .. Until Jimbo stepped in.

    Makes you wonder if Randy is hung up on promises he made to certain players.

    I know it looked at first like players didn’t want to help Stephen Morris..Hank even dropped a pass that was a LITTLE behind him — one he’s caught before though in pervious games..but when he started making plays EVERYTHING went his way. EVERYTHING.

    I hope he isn’t feeling trapped into something.

  238. The Ohio State game hurts me as bad as the FSU game did..

    We still had a chance to win it. But dropped passes were a KILLER when we were driving..before Jacory decided to start throwing his interceptions. Two of them I didn’t mind..the other two.. Good GOD dude..

    We DROVE on Ohio State time and time again.. Drives just got KILLED with dropped passes and interceptions.

    If we HAD a backup that was even REMOTELY close to Jacory (or knew we did at that time — Morris has yet to prove himself against a decent defense) dude could have got his ass benched for someone else to try.

    That’s one thing I’d credit Spurrier with back in the day — if Wuerrfel (or whatever, don’t remember the spelling LOL) was looking SLOPPY he’d drag his ass out — until Danny boy decided to tighten his game up.

  239. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie, lol, that’s a great point about Idaho. I think the situation is salvagable because there are too many people around the program who know Shannon, who he respects, for someone to not sit down with him and open his eyes to how he’s ruining his golden opportunity.

    It’s not like he’s a Larry Coker or a total outsider who would just be flailing.

    Hell, even Shalala would/could and maybe should break him down.

    These mistakes aren’t like Coker’s, where the basic motivation and understanding are lacking. He has the will and the technical part. He’s deficient with the skills of leadership and self-awareness.

    I think he literally cannot see himself and he’s going into a bunker mentlaity, which is fine as long as YOUR TROOPS ARE WITH YOU. They’re not. They’re divided, resentful, angry. And many of them are just plain spoiled and soft, not hungry. So that has to be drilled into them, one way or another. I don’t know how you do it cause I can’t see the players but it has to be done.

    But the first thing is someone has to slap Shannon upside the head and wake him up. Maybe JJ, maybe Shalala, maybe Irvin but it has to be someone. And they need to do it soon, while he still has a chance to recover his troops confidence and respect.

  240. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    I’m wrecking my brain thinking who’s playing and SHOULDN’T be…maybe cmac but that’s all I can think of some one help me think of more!

  241. Someone more or less needs to show up on his doorstep..

    We’ve got people riding the pine right now who I’m sure would LOVE to get some playing time.. PLENTY of wide receivers which we’ve had our woes with this year.. Storm Johnson’s redshirt is burned.. give him a handoff or two — or even just some throws into the flat to see how good he is. These are ALL people you know are hungry, Storm Johnson has even made a stink about it although his issue was more of a sense of entitlement..

  242. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie, yeah Spurrier was merciless with that position. And you touch on a great point with the OSU game…so close but so far. And you wonder WHY juniors are executing and being consistent??

    I’m still not satisfied with those issues, meaning I think it’s a different set of problems with them than it is with Shannon’s innate leadership issues.

    Hankerson made the leap but I don’t see anyone else putting in that extra time to become better, every year, the way the U traditionally does. Pride is the word. I think it requires some different training, different mental conditioning.

  243. From Canestime.com Insider…

    Shannon update

    ——————————————————————————–

    I’m going to start this post by tipping my hat to Random. Nobody really knows what’s going on in this mess down here, but it looks like his info and instincts were right. The same people telling me Shannon was in trouble are now saying that he got a pardon and will be here next year, barring a total collapse.

    As most people can figure out, there is tension everywhere. The Trustees are getting tired of Shannon. Some of the most influential guys have had enough. But Shalala has (rightfully) earned pull with her fundraising and overall success, and she is Shannon’s biggest supporter. Even as Shannon seems to be coming unglued (his interviews are killing him), she continues to support him.

    From what I’ve heard, push came to shove a few days ago with Hocutt, BOT, Shalala and Shannon. Everyone was informed of where they stood. And at the end of the day, Shalala came out on top.

    Even with what I’m hearing, just seeing how Shannon has been spiraling tells me there is a chance he is gone. The pressure is getting to him in a way we haven’t seen before. Whip is a prima donna jerkoff, even as his offense sputters. Things just aren’t good in Coral Gables right now, and anything can happen going forward. This sounds like a grandma talking, but I worry about the kids.

  244. You have to have kids that have that WANT to get better.

    Brandon Harris is a scrappy fucker. He got beat up on all of 2008 because he was small. Two years later, LOOK AT HIM NOW.. I’d call it a tie between he and Ryan Hill being the BEST on the team and possibly some of the best in the ACC.

    I’ve only seen Brandon Harris get burnt with crossing routes which as someone said a while back, are a son of a bitch to defend and keep cover on a receiver. Ryan Hill has unfortunately been shoved around, injured, benched, this and that and the other.. Ironically his senior season he’s back where he was in highschool and you’ve heard next to NOTHING about receivers he lines up against.. PLUS he’s pretty big for a corner.

    DVD is a disappointment. He has no hunger. For God’s sakes he was going to go to Florida during their hot streak.

    With the exception of Vaughn Telemaque, Colin McCarthy (maybe Sean Spence — he’s got godgiven talent and is using it pretty well thus far) and the two cornerbacks I mentioned.. I don’t see people that WANT on the defense. The line.. They’re the the most consistent unit but even then when they’re getting pushed around you can SEE it on them that they’re losing the will to fight. Back in 2002 I remember our defense having a TIME with RUTGERS for a while..

    They pushed, and pushed.. Rutgers kept successfully moving the ball..

    Then you could see the defense getting pissed. All of a sudden penetration here, blitz here.. You just don’t see it on this team. And it’s a damn shame ’cause these boys know they’re talented.

  245. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, this makes sense. I can see him going “bunker mentality” but being unable to find answers and spiralling back into a deeper shell.

    He needs to sit down with JJ and really evaluate his leadership in all respects. He’s missing some critical, critical pieces but because he can’t see himself he can’t see those pieces.

    That’s why he’s coming unglued. He can’t just put his nose to the grindstone with this one and he’s coming up empty every single time.

  246. From what I saw on Monday, I think “bunker mentality” is pretty accurate.

    Sigh.

  247. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie, I’d actually say DVD has been a pleasant surprise this year. He finally broke out of his shell and really made some plays and played with his speed. He’s even coming up in run support and making hits.

    The DL has become a disappointment as the season has worn on. Every time I see them they’re just trying to outshove OL. Maybe it’s because they revert back to the old habits from Hurtt but they’re not making moves like they did earlier in the season. They came around against UNC but it’s not there yet.

  248. If Ryan Hill had been on DeVier Posey in the OSU game that long bomb of a pass to gain them 40 or 50 yards wouldn’t have happened lol

    But you’re right, he HAS been doing better than last year..

    Really wish Randy would just sit back, take a breath, clear his plate and sift through his priorities one by one. He’s not being rushed, he IS being hounded.. But as we all know he’s able to tune out most of it..

    Dude needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with someone.

  249. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ, SOMEONE has to be able to get in his ear and talk some sense into his head. He can’t see himself so he’s not going to be able to come out of this by his own enlightenment. Someone’s going to have to shake the sense into him, open his eyes.

    It’s tragic to see someone who knows the Xs and Os, who knows in theory what he wants to see, who wants to win and hates to lose, fail because he doesn’t understand the grey area.

  250. Something else you all need to listen too are the inconsistencies between what the COACH says and what the PLAYERS say.

    Point…

    Joe Rose asked Shannon did the team take UVA lightly. Randy emphatically said No.

    Laron Byrd gets interviewed and didn’t even get asked but said we took them light.

    DISCONNECT.

    No Dogs Out Joe, C’Mon!

  251. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie V
    November 3, 2010 at 10:25 PM
    If Ryan Hill had been on DeVier Posey in the OSU game that long bomb of a pass to gain them 40 or 50 yards wouldn’t have happened lol

    But you’re right, he HAS been doing better than last year..

    Really wish Randy would just sit back, take a breath, clear his plate and sift through his priorities one by one. He’s not being rushed, he IS being hounded.. But as we all know he’s able to tune out most of it..

    Dude needs to have a come to Jesus meeting with someone.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    LMAO!!!! Benny THAT IS THE TRUTH!!!! All-time classic post…hahaha

  252. Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:28 PM
    JSQ, SOMEONE has to be able to get in his ear and talk some sense into his head. He can’t see himself so he’s not going to be able to come out of this by his own enlightenment. Someone’s going to have to shake the sense into him, open his eyes.

    It’s tragic to see someone who knows the Xs and Os, who knows in theory what he wants to see, who wants to win and hates to lose, fail because he doesn’t understand the grey area.

    ^^^THIS^^^

  253. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, yeah, that’s what I’m saying, he has to be able to read his players. It’s not connecting. You have to be able to know your players and act accordingly.

    It’s back to that damned focus.

    He needs to sit down with JJ and really examine himself and what he sees. JJ’s the only one who can really do it cause he’s a great coach.

  254. I agree, bg.

    Truth and I were saying weeks ago (not on here) that Coach needs a wife to sit him down and have a talk with him about all this.

    I hope JJ or someone else can have the same effect, because it doesn’t appear that it is clicking without some sort of intervention.

  255. bg, was that from the premium board on Scout?

  256. The more and more I see Randy..

    The more and more I see Stevie Wonder..

    Dude is smiling (or in Randy’s case pulling an Obama and jawing his way around the question with a smile on his face sometimes)..doesn’t know WTF is going on around him..

  257. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    And BG, that’s why he’s cracking under the pressure because he still has those expectations and goals but he’s nowhere near them and he can’t figure out why.

    It’s as much internal as it is external.

  258. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ
    November 3, 2010 at 10:35 PM
    I agree, bg.

    Truth and I were saying weeks ago (not on here) that Coach needs a wife to sit him down and have a talk with him about all this.

    I hope JJ or someone else can have the same effect, because it doesn’t appear that it is clicking without some sort of intervention.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    JSQ, the same reason he doesn’t have a wife is the same reason he’s disconnected with his players. Making that close connection brings up dangerous memories and courts more danger, failure, heart-break etc.

    I had a friend who was exactly the same way. He lost his parents when he was 5 or something and never had a steady girlfriend until recently.

    To me, JJ’s his only hope. No one else has the authority or the respect.

  259. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie V
    November 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM
    The more and more I see Randy..

    The more and more I see Stevie Wonder..

    Dude is smiling (or in Randy’s case pulling an Obama and jawing his way around the question with a smile on his face sometimes)..doesn’t know WTF is going on around him..

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    LOL. You’re on a roll bro!!

  260. The question IS though..

    Would Randy ACKNOWLEDGE and ACCEPT advice from Jimmy?

  261. miamimike01 says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:36 PM
    bg, was that from the premium board on Scout?

    Free board.

  262. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie, I think he would. But I don’t know if he would from many others.

  263. MM01.

    Hit me up on email. Got a few questions and perhaps a proposition.

  264. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    As I see it, Shannon has two windows, one short term one long-term.

    Short-term…Morris, James and Miller might be better than the people they’re replacing. If the team rallies around them and plays inspired we could win out. I know VT is playing well but I’m not that impressed with them overall.

    Long-term…….JJ. I really don’t see another solution, other than maybe Irvin but I don’t think Shannon’s on the up and up with him. You never know though.

    He needs that Jesus moment Benny said, for real.

  265. Someone needs to play matchmaker and get the two together LOL

    Let JJ lay down the law.

  266. Bennie V says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:41 PM
    The question IS though..

    Would Randy ACKNOWLEDGE and ACCEPT advice from Jimmy?

    He already does. BUT he has to find HIMSELF out of this. NO ONE can do it for him. Just look at the things crumbling around you. OBVIOUSLY something isn’t right. He doesn’t trust enough to REALLY tell anyone what is going on. Perhaps it needs to be a player who has some NADS that has to do it. Who knows. I think its beyond repair. I really do.

  267. It’s almost bothersome to me that it hasn’t DAWNED on Randy yet..

    I know people like coaching the way they want to coach..

    But you were born, raised, and played in a state where a coaching legend spent over 30 years with ONE program.

    Maybe you could take a page out of the book of Bowden? During the years..over SO many interviews..people often asked him how were his teams so successful.. He didn’t take any responsibility for it, more of it was the fact that he told the people, each and every one, that he found some of the best help they could afford, some of the best help they could find.. And he let them do their thing, PERIOD. He didn’t micromanage them, he watched them from a safe distance.. However if something was fishy, he’d question them on it and get things in order..

    This was a man who turned nothing into something BIG. Something that we’ve had to deal with year in and year out for many many years.

    It’s not hard to take one mans methods of doing things and possibly even trying to apply them to your situation. It’s year four Randy. You were a little bit behind schedule on trying to change things up, you still have a chance.

  268. Well i will admit, before the jacory hit, in the unc game, what was funny to me was when jacory ran downfield seeming like he was trying to celebrate, and he seemed to make some kind of slash of the throat type thing, but seemed like an outsider trying to celebrate. Also when he gave coach shannon the game ball.

    Even still, with what’s being said tonight, ok than, that’s the only way it makes sense to me that you got jacory under center with no runningbacks, so it’s not like whipple is trying to sabotage shannon, he’s trying to sabotage jacory and force shannon to sit em. because if you telling me it’s not the oc from the plays i’m seeing called, ok, than everything else makes more sense now cause whipple can’t be that crazy, than again, he called some of the same dumb plays with moris in their too. All i know is, i felt like after this year it was going to be a qb controversy, because stephen morris is the real deal and the players seem to be rallying around em.

    Did damien berry get hurt or something, if so, it’s miller & mike james time. I guess i’m going to have to be the one to go and talk to onion.

  269. He gives so much advice to his players, so much help to them OFF the field.. Like Jordan Futch and the situation he had not too long ago..

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if one of the older players sniffed out the real issue and confronted him about it..

    NOW.. as to how he would respond is an entirely different story.

  270. AND WHY CAN’T WE GET A 1,000 YARD RUSHER LOL

    for the first time in a LONG time we have the personnel to do it LOL

    it irks me to no end.

  271. It’s going to take a team meeting, forget the players only meeting, if i’m the players i’d call a team meeting and let shannon have it. I’d tell em look dawg, when you recruited you came in our poor azz living room and told me, competition is what’s going to make you a better player, at UM, that’s what we’re all about, right now, where is the competition and wth you doing letting jacory keep playing all game long throwing the ball to the other team. W all came here for UM and the vision you sold us, but you not living up to your own words, we came here, followed the rules you laid out and all we got are unecessary losses from it. What’s really happening coach.

  272. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, wouldn’t you say he can’t see himself yet to even have that moment of self-awareness.

    But like Benny says, if you see things falling apart around you, or at least not performing as you THINK they should, you have to look at something.

    He says he examines and evaluates himself and his staff every year to see how they could improve. This year, he needs to sit down with JJ when he does that evaluation. Or even and maybe Kirby. Kirby sees it up close, unlike JJ who’s at a distance. Altnough, I’m sure the Canes circles are small and words fly like the wind.

    It may take a few conversations cause he’s so stubborn and focused.

  273. Bennie V says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:54 PM
    He gives so much advice to his players, so much help to them OFF the field.. Like Jordan Futch and the situation he had not too long ago..

    I wouldn’t be surprised at all if one of the older players sniffed out the real issue and confronted him about it..

    NOW.. as to how he would respond is an entirely different story.

    For a player to do he’ll have to have HUGE NADS. They are afraid of him.

  274. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    November 3, 2010 at 10:57 PM
    It’s going to take a team meeting, forget the players only meeting, if i’m the players i’d call a team meeting and let shannon have it. I’d tell em look dawg, when you recruited you came in our poor azz living room and told me, competition is what’s going to make you a better player, at UM, that’s what we’re all about, right now, where is the competition and wth you doing letting jacory keep playing all game long throwing the ball to the other team. W all came here for UM and the vision you sold us, but you not living up to your own words, we came here, followed the rules you laid out and all we got are unecessary losses from it. What’s really happening coach.

    >>>>>>>>

    Cal, that’s the even better option. Berry could start it cause he has that old Canes lineage, so could VT and maybe even Byrd.

    Just Shannon and the players cause that’s what this is about.

  275. Calvin says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:57 PM
    It’s going to take a team meeting, forget the players only meeting, if i’m the players i’d call a team meeting and let shannon have it. I’d tell em look dawg, when you recruited you came in our poor azz living room and told me, competition is what’s going to make you a better player, at UM, that’s what we’re all about, right now, where is the competition and wth you doing letting jacory keep playing all game long throwing the ball to the other team. W all came here for UM and the vision you sold us, but you not living up to your own words, we came here, followed the rules you laid out and all we got are unecessary losses from it. What’s really happening coach.

    ^^^THIS^^^

    I told you Cal. It ALL stinks bruh.

  276. To a certain degree shannon is treating these kids like his own kids and he knows how fragile jacory must be and with jacory sitting all by himself after plays, come on, that was garbage, and for the headcoach and oc to let that happen is bullshat. That’s why i like what romberg was talkign about. Like he said, art kehoe was a basically “a world class motivator”. The sooner we get guys who really want to win on his team the better. The reason shannon has cut players off is because he’s trreating this team like they are his own kids and that sof spot in his heart for his players and qb in jacory, that’s what’s killing em.

    I know AL BLADES would be one of the 1st ones swinging on somebody back in the day, lol, he use to have alot of these players shook, lol. shannon has cut off access to the team and to alot of people because that’s his natural reaction, but sooner or later he’s going ot see, you can’t protect these guys like that forever, especially jacory. jacory needs someone to tell em he’s been playing like garbage.

  277. I noticed on the Sun Sentinel or something..one of those sites..

    Someone said they thought they’d heard a rumor about Berry possibly being “suspended” rather than “banged up” over possibly having called Coach Shannon out on something..

    Wonder if that could be true? We’ve had a weird rash of “injuries” and people sitting out in parts of games for no reason.. Orlando Franklin @ FSU.. Colin McCarthy @ Duke.. Now Damien Berry @ Maryland.. ALL of which are seniors..

    Dunno. Damien may be hurt, he is a HARD runner. Wouldn’t surprise me though. And that’d completely shoot down the idea of some of his players trying to talk to him unless some of them tried him in a disrespectful manner.

  278. Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:
    November 3, 2010 at 10:58 PM
    BG, wouldn’t you say he can’t see himself yet to even have that moment of self-awareness.

    But like Benny says, if you see things falling apart around you, or at least not performing as you THINK they should, you have to look at something.

    He says he examines and evaluates himself and his staff every year to see how they could improve. This year, he needs to sit down with JJ when he does that evaluation. Or even and maybe Kirby. Kirby sees it up close, unlike JJ who’s at a distance. Altnough, I’m sure the Canes circles are small and words fly like the wind.

    It may take a few conversations cause he’s so stubborn and focused.

    Funny thing is, in HIS mind evaluation and adjuments happen in the off-season. He rides his “first mind” all the way out. This CAN’T wait until the off-season, and like Truth said, there is even MORE, this is just 1 of SEVERAL issues. Its really bad around there now from what I’ve been hearing from people I trust. REALLY bad. The guys from Canestime have GOOD info and you see what they said.

    I’ve heard other things too, but I won’t talk about them until they are more concrete. Lots of rumors too you have to sift through.

  279. I’m pretty sure some of the defensive players have PROBABLY already mentioned that Jacory is playing like absolute GARBAGE.. If they didn’t say it directly to someone or Jacory then I’m sure it’s filtered back by now..

    And I don’t think it’d take a brave player to call out Randy, just a brash one.. One that’s pissed that he thinks he’s essentially wasting his time playing for a program that he was sold on by a coach who at the time believed he could be beneficial to said program.

    I know when I get irate or pissed about something SOMEONE is going to hear about it. You get certain emotion on your side and fear to the wayside.

  280. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, fear can only go so far, usually only at the beginning. The kids need to respect you then love you.

    Personally, I think it will have to come from someone like JJ, maybe even DBJ.

    I think if someone really explained the situation to Shalala she’d talk to him. But I don’t think he’d hear it the way he’d hear it from JJ.

  281. The Truth says:
    November 3, 2010 at 6:33 PM

    Keep debating for the sake of pushing an opinion that you have a good leg to stand on…I get it. The playcalling looks suspect. But you’re wrong…it’s NOT the OC. Does that mean his job is safe?

    No. Because he might not make it out on the field the same way a lot of these players aren’t and it’s not right.

    But thats how it is in CG these days…

    ^^^Evaluate and think about this statement^^^

  282. bg, it all makes sense now why whipple keeps calling all this bullshat than. he’s not trying to help what he sees as a selfish player get better over the team, so if that’s the case, than whipple is kind of og than, lol, he’s basically saying phuck randy, this mofo wants to run the team like that, ok, i’ll run the offense like this, lol, kind of funny as hell whe nyou think about it. no wonder whipple always has that “who just farted” look on his face on the sidelines.

    As for me personally, i’m trying to figure out why players are scared of shannon, lol, or any coach, no coach ever scared me, and if a coach is being a hypocrite, he’s either going to kick me and my dogs off the team or we’ll be rumbling. That’s why i know a player like davon johnson, he can’t be controlled like that, he don’t give a damyum, O.T. baby.

    If i got a text from shannon talking bout come see me and i see bullshat being done, man he gone have to come and find me. The whole team needs to rally around each other. like i said, those interceptions jacory threw against ohio st. were all on him, irregardless of what shannon was saying with the exception of the one travis bobbled, other than that, i got a lil pissed at jacory after he threw that i.n.t. and kind of tried to show off by yelling at travis like he ran the wrong route, whe nall the other receivers were blocking too.

  283. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Bennie, that’s an interesting thing. It seemed a little mysterious. Berry’s the one player who has the authority because of how long he’s been at the U and that he has as much O&G as Shannon.

    Either Shannon will come to his senses or he’ll be fired by the 3rd game next year.

    It’s sad. There’s still hope but it’s sad. He really has to come to his senses with what’s between the lines. JJ is the only one who can really screw his head off and put it back on, the way his daddy would have.

  284. Ok than, well, with all the turmoil going on inside the program ain’t but one thing left to do, i’mma tr yand go holla at big O and see what’s really happening.

    Yall see coach hank over at the west phuckin up too, lol. He tries to be controlling too. Now he’s a principal and he’s over there getting carried away.

  285. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    BG, that doesn’t even make sense. Literally.

    Cal, yeah, it does shed some light on Whip’s calling. lol It makes things a little more logical. haha Or at least moving from SOME form of logic, albeit a crazy logic but still a logic.

  286. It would seem that way..the Whipple/Randy issue..

    Our offense (granted it was still new) was EXPLOSIVE up until the Clemson game last year.. After that it fizzled out as a WHOLE.

    Defenses will adjust, but like someone said earlier..if a team is executing..a play will work a majority of the time.

    After the sideline debacle during the ’09 Clemson game.. Our offense just NEVER looked the same..

  287. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Well now that I know what’s up I can watch the games more easily. Shannon’s career will go one way or another. The players will be fine cause the U will do a better evaluation of candidates before they hire them, so either way the kids will be fine.

    The only person Shannon’s really going to fail is himself.

  288. I agree with you, Bennie, about the offense hasn’t been the same since Clemson 09.

  289. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Benny, it looked good against USF. J12, the OL even JJ looked good, sort of, in that game. I think Shannon had a Nix flashback from the bowl game and just knee-jerk reacted with the TO.

    But still, I think team’s adjusted to J12 and Whipple. With this new info it seems like they adjusted most to J12.

  290. These players just need to do what they did against unc for real, phuck shannon and whoever else and just start celebrating, he can’t sit the whole damyum team down, if these guys start playing for themselves, it’s going to take guys like brandon harris and spence and telemaque and berry and the whole team to come together without regard for punishment. It can’t just be one guy so he can get weeded out, it needs to be the whole damyum team, and come next game, just let lose. Get a 15 yard penalty, whoever scores again, they need to do the same thing all game long.

    All he can do is punish the whole team but come game day, thesr guys need to just go out there and ball. If i’m brandon harris i’d be out their playing free and doing it, so what if we get a 15 yard penalty. Well, we’ll see, at some point this team is going to get right, whether it’s with shannon or somebody else, lol.

  291. At first I was a little upset for bringing up the Jacory hit and the way the team didn’t respond but I’m glad I did.

    It made things clearer and I think you guys are starting to understand that the Jacory issue is one of many, but the biggest deal because it affects so much of the game.

    Good night gents. I wouldn’t hope for any magic turnarounds. I’m just sayin

    Oh and bg…remember what I told you about the whipple Shannon noon thing ^^^^^^^** that was the meeting.

    Obviously he chose wisely.

  292. bg, I listened to that Ferman interview.

    Number 1, I called for Morris to see what he could do for the Duke game. It was obvious to me, at that point, knowing J12 was hurting, to see him. Ferman said the EXACT SAME thing I did.

    Morris did a nice few things, let’s see what he can do going forward, see if he can execute.

    It’s obvious to me the kid can move the team, at least once he settled down. I think M17 can bring us a win on Saturday. I’m already on record.

  293. miamimike01 says:
    November 3, 2010 at 11:26 PM
    I agree with you, Bennie, about the offense hasn’t been the same since Clemson 09.

    When did we first see the TRUE Randy/Whipple relationship??? CLEMSON ’09

  294. The Truth says:
    November 3, 2010 at 11:46 PM
    At first I was a little upset for bringing up the Jacory hit and the way the team didn’t respond but I’m glad I did.

    It made things clearer and I think you guys are starting to understand that the Jacory issue is one of many, but the biggest deal because it affects so much of the game.

    Good night gents. I wouldn’t hope for any magic turnarounds. I’m just sayin

    Oh and bg…remember what I told you about the whipple Shannon noon thing ^^^^^^^** that was the meeting.

    Obviously he chose wisely.

    Gotcha.

  295. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Aw hell, ain’t many left on Shannon island…lol…1st truth, then bg, mmo1 & poppa bradley, cav, cal…then all the dimes j and truth were dropping got me to looking at stuff a lil different too…lol…if coach done let favoritism of 1 or 2 players divide the team then maybe it is time for the admin to look in a different direction???(can’t believe I saying this ish)…I’m getting depressed all over again…maybe shannon can chalk this up as another learning experience for his next gig coz from the sounds/looks of it this one time is bout up for him:-(tears in my eyes:-(

  296. I posted that same article earlier today, bg, saying our guys are mentally not tough and not focused.

    I’m really depressed about all this. Hurricanes football is my most favorite thing in the world (other than oxygen).

    Sigh. (Mike pounds fist into the dining room room table, waking up the beast that is Hurricane Randy, and excuses ensue!) damnit.

  297. Oxygen is just okay …

  298. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    He posted on the old blog:

    Mr KL says:
    November 4, 2010 at 7:48 AM
    JSQ

    Sorry that I will not be there to consume your crab cakes!! But my youngest babyKL has her final soccer game of the year at 9am Saturday. So I took one for the team! I liked your article as it hits close to home.

    All this talk about academics and graduating football players seems a bit crazy. Tell me are there any penalties levied against schools that have very low graduating rates? Last I looked there are no penalties levied against those schools that graduate less than 50% and from what I read there are only bragging rights (of sort) for those teams that graduate at the top! These bragging rights dont win football games or get you to BCS Bowl games with big $$ payouts! If the NCAA wants to make this system of graduation rates work- start implementing a system of scholarship reductions to the football programs that fall below a realistic percentage of say 60%. Allow for early outs (NFL Draft) and career injuries to be deducted.

    Just my random thoughts against the NCAA establishment!! Hypocracy at its best!!

    Go Canes

  299. Good idea. You got a smart one, KL! Maybe you should take him home a crabcake slider since they were his idea!!!

  300. Randy…still got time.

  301. NCAA is a crock of sh!t….a tool for the NFL…as far as I am concerned these kids get used by the whole system. But if they give them the one year and out thing like basketball….college football will become college basketball and college basketball has been unfun for about the last 5 years.

    I said from the beginning the kids on this team need a spiritual coach but I think Randy needs one too. I totally relate with Randy’s personality, he pours himself into work, he is so afraid to let loose and love because his heart has been broken so much. I think he just needs to let the kids play the remainder of the year. Because I believe no matter win or lose he will be replaced.

    One thing I know for sure Miami will probably not get a too many coaches wanting this job. You ONLY get support in Miami if you win and honestly this lack of loyalty by the fans of Miami really disgusts me……As Angry would say I WOULD NEVER want to go to battle with any of them.

  302. Canechic, I would go into battle with you!

    Especially lately! Dang, you’re bringing the FIYAH! ;-)

  303. avatar
    JerseyCanes says:

    Ok – whats going to Happen..

    MD – Win (Randy Stays)

    GT – WIN ( Randy Stays) (side note: If Randy loses Any one of these 2 game he’s out immediately)

    VT – Loss ( We’re back to where we are right now- this time Randy is fired)
    SF – Win (Its Whips team now – Interm status)

    Bowl game – If win ( Whip officially becomes HC)

    If by chance Randy GETS to the ACC championship game – regardless what happens – he stays.

    Thats it for now folks.. Stay tuned

    JC

  304. JC.

    IF Randy is gone. NO WAY Whip is the HC…NO WAY! I don’t believe that.

    Also a quote from Butch…

    “I don’t think there’s any question that if you’re not willing to be competitive in absolutely everything … from facilities, to assistant coaches’ salaries to the amount of money you spend on recruiting and all those things — there’s an absolute direct correlation to the success… of your program,” North Carolina coach Butch Davis said.

  305. Whip is not becoming head coach, JC. They are not going to do that whole “first time head coach” experiment again.

  306. Thanks JSQ! I would take you too! I believe that you learn a whole lot about a person in seeing how they react to adversity. This is how you weed out weak people, i.e. seals training.

    I totally understand Donna’s loyalty….I am a very loyal person and I am willing to let people around me grow, make mistakes and learn from them. I know it is a little different when you run a business. One thing I know from what I know of her personality…she will give you the chance but if she has to let you go she will in the end.

    I also know that some men have issues with women being in the position Donna is in. No matter what she does one way or the other she is wrong. And in the end will say she is a woman she does not understand. I am not so sure many would even be calling out the president if she was not a woman. Because I know for a fact that in the “good old days”the president was a man. JJ did not get along with him and the fans of the school (again I say school) were siding with the president. Can you imagine if we had the internet in those days? Honestly I think they have been more tumultuous days then glory days with the University of Miami football program. People only remember the wins and never the struggles.

  307. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Truth, if this situation with Whipple has been brewing for that long, WTF did RS and Whipple agree to at the very beginning and why the hell didn’t it happen? Does RS just NOT understand how to really let staff do their jobs?

    And I agree with Calvin. At this point the players need to play for themselves, their names and careers. Since Morris is back there they need to ball out and win for no one else but themselves. Then let the chips fall. They still control their destiny, like CC said.

  308. avatar
    The Truth says:

    As of RIGHT NOW Shannon keeps his job through the season no matter what. Up intil Monday that was in serious question…it was in quesion before UNC as well…

    If he loses a game or two who knows if that’ll change anyone’s mind.

    Shalala is a business woman and even if there is turmoil, stability wins out. I have to say that I agree with that for the sake of the players…

    After December? All bets are off.

  309. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Cav when th QB basically gets to do whatever he wants with no consequence, including his handling of the plays called it makes it tough to run an offense.

  310. avatar
    The Truth says:

    …and you know its gotten out of control when your own teammates will come yell at you openly…

  311. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    canechic says:
    November 4, 2010 at 9:49 AM

    Honestly I think they have been more tumultuous days then glory days with the University of Miami football program. People only remember the wins and never the struggles.
    ———————————————–
    2nd!

  312. avatar
    The Truth says:

    And all that stuff about Shannon up there…thats just what I know…maybe that what some poeple want but others want something else? All I know is its getting really dicey one way or the other…

  313. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    CC, true but the AD who didn’t hire Gary Stephens needed bodyguards with him for a while.

    But RS has a totally different type of problem. He has lost the confidence and trust with his players, like Coker. That’s a whole nuther planet.

  314. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    The Truth
    November 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM
    Cav when th QB basically gets to do whatever he wants with no consequence, including his handling of the plays called it makes it tough to run an offense.

    The Truth
    November 4, 2010 at 9:55 AM
    …and you know its gotten out of control when your own teammates will come yell at you openly…

    >>>>>>>>>

    Truth, yeah, I’ve been thinking about that. It definitely handcuffs an OC. It just makes NO FUKING SENSE for RS to do that. He knows first hand how important unity and execution and following the chain of command are.

    I just want to understand the warped logic behind these decisions. It makes no friggin sense!

  315. avatar
    JerseyCanes says:

    Well – They better get a contigency plan….
    i’m just saying…

    To paraphrase a poster form another site – here is an interesting question.

    Taking into consideration his body of work – If the job was open today, would Donna still hire Randy as HC?

    If her answer is no – then there is no need for him to be around.

    And for the Record – I WAS a Randy supporter.

    JC

  316. Bahama Cane and I promise University of Miami alumni (my dad graduated law school in 1972 undergraduate in 1968) was not all to happy with the brash kids running that football program. The school was happy with 6 wins or whatever but not with the new look of the football program, these are the facts. The innuendos and rumors during the 80’s were just downright ugly and I mean UGLY!

  317. Cap my point is that all these people on here calling out Donna do not remember all the old days of tension between the school and the football program. They seem to think these problems only exist now since she has become president.

  318. Canechic, it’s like I joked the other night:

    Damn women.

    They get their period and ruin the football program! :-D

    Not saying you guys think that way, but a lot of guys do.

    Meanwhile, I think my male friends PMS harder than my female friends do. Or so I told Canez1 before the UNC game.

    Just sayin. ;-)

  319. Just got an e-mail inviting me to a UVA alumni event (we do that with all the ACC clubs).

    DELETED.

    GRRRRR!

  320. Tad Foote used to try to f@ck things up a lot worse than Shalala

  321. Someone please explain the RS love that still exists.

    I just don’t get it.

    We have done NOTHING as a football program on the football field for the past 8 years and still irrelevant.

    What the fuk is everyone hanging on to?? What have you seen that says this is the guy for our future.

    He’s a cane, he’s from the area…… WHO GIVES A FUKKKKK!!

    We suck! Bottom line. There is plenty of talent on this team. There is no way we should be where we are at this point.

    Bring up whatever else you want WE SUCK!!!

    Clean the friggin house and start fresh.

    Don’t give me the grass is always greener either. Our lawn is dead.

    You have built in recruiting down here so there is plenty of talent to go around.

    It’s time. Facts are facts.

    Like I said before there are a million questions and only one answer. 45 assistant changes and 1 common denominator.

    Time for a fresh start and new blood.

    Shyte ain’t working for whatever the reason or excuse. That is all you need to know.

    Stop trying to over analyze everything!

    Stop making things so damn complicated.

    10-3

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  322. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    KLCanesFan,

    To answer a post a little while ago…..

    For the past nine years the NCAA has been judging graduation rates at all D-1 Schools. The penalty for falling below their set standard is a loss of scholarships.

    The NCAA released their latest report Oct. 28 of this year and the U ranked second to only Stanford in graduation rate. Standford at 86% and the U at 81%. The norm or average is 67%.

    Of the current top ten (2010 rankings) in college football 7 out of ten fell below the four year average, including Auburn and Boise St.

    The worst is Oklahoma at 44%. Are U surprised? LOL

    16 of the top 25 fall below the standard including NC State in the ACC as the lowest with graduation rate percentage.

    In the state of Florida, FIU is at 57% and South Florida is low as well. Floriduh and FSWHOOOOOO are okay but not great.

  323. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    I have read where people, especially on other blogs think Shalala is part of the problem.

    I find it hard to believe that nonsense. So she gives RS a vote of confidence, we all know what that usually means.

    She was very instrumental in helping Wisconsin become a power and relevant team in the Big Ten and the collegiate landscape.

    I believe she cares deeply about our football team and wants to see them succeed. I believe she wants to see Randy succeed as well. What’s wrong with that.

    That being said, the number of fannies in the seats and loss of revenue will speak louder than anything and as Miami fans are fickle at best SunLife will look empty until the U starts winning and beating good football teams.

  324. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Preach on Canez1

    I’m in the choir now. LOL

  325. avatar
    BahamaCane says:

    Threes yrs in and the consensus was the team was on the right track. After last season, the expectations was high coming into this season.

    In yr 4 there is some hard times, questionable decisions made and the majority of the reaction seems to be fire RS.

    Whatever good will he built over the last 3 yrs seem to have dissipated over night.

    Some arent even giving him the opportunity to right the ship. They just want him gone!

    Like i said on another blog, looks like Shannon really had no margin of error after all!

  326. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    The canes could lose every game the rest of the season and at the same time the could win those games…IMO they split the and finish 7-5 and the dawgs will be out…the admin waits to see what happens at uga, see if they fire richt or not the go from there….as MUCH as I would love Shannon to turn this around, it don’t look good that he’s lost the trust, confidence, respect of the team from WHAT I READ…in a million years I never would have expected Shannon to have lost that..

  327. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Nashville,

    I hear you, man!

  328. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Does anyone know the point spread for this game? I heard it was Maryland by 11 and I find that hard to believe.

  329. Randy – that was a copy/paste for MrKL. He’s new at blogging and posted his comment on the previous blog.

    Thanks to all of you who have shed some light on the situation in CG… not that I wanted something else to worry about but at least now things are making sense.

  330. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    Gotcha , KLCane Fan

  331. 1. Miami freshman quarterback Stephen Morris. Morris, a true freshman who just a few weeks ago was the Hurricanes’ fourth-string quarterback, is likely to get his first start on Saturday against Maryland in place of injured starter Jacory Harris (concussion). The staff is confident in him, but freshman mistakes are hard to avoid.

    2. Miami’s running game without Damien Berry. As if losing their starting quarterback wasn’t enough, the Canes will also be without their leading rusher. Miami has depth at the position, but Maryland has held its four ACC opponents to just 1.9 yards per carry, the best run defense in the league.

  332. JSQ LOL I def know alot of Bytchass dudes out there.

    I toss those fools out real quick tho.

    No time….

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  333. as Miami fans are fickle at best SunLife will look empty until the U starts winning and beating good football teams.

    THE SEATS WILL ALWAYS BE EMPTY UNLESS IT IS A BIG GAME PERIOD…..please everyone give up on this pipe dream, we are not a college town……THE CITY OF MIAMI does not revolve around the school as does other cities!!!!!! I have been to games in the OB when the canes were undefeated playing TEMPLE and had the pick of the litter as to where I wanted to sit. Ask any old school cane player, alumni, fan and you will get this same answer.

    THE MARLINS WIN THE WORLD SERIES AND THEY GET 1,000 people to come to the games the next season and THE CUBS SELL OUT WRIGLEY FIELD almost every game and have never won a WORLD SERIES.

  334. Ok, I was starting to get over the UVA loss, but while scrolling thru comments from yesterday, I saw Bryd say they took UVA lightly..Are you freakin kiddin me????? They beat a suspension riddled UNC team and they get cocky??? Just like last year all over again. Overconfidence, and for what?? You didn’t do anything, please show some consistency fellas. No one cares about you damn fake swagger. Most of these guys are beyond lazy and dont give a damn about winning, they are coasting while they are at Miami, and pick it up when it time for the NFL…So frustrating!!!!!

  335. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Poppa Bradley from what I’ve saw canes are an 8pt fav fwiw…we all know that means zilch when it comes to this team…c1 sometime in life you don’t wanna give up on ppl to soon I’ve been there done that with close friends and family…u want to give the up to the last minute to get done what YOU BELIEVE they can do…I’ve experienced both side in that ppl didn’t give up on me when they could have and I didn’t disappoint them…but I’ve given ppl chance after chance only to realize that the expections won’t be met..but it’s a very fine line whether to keep believing or cut your losses and move on…one example look how long it took shields to contribute to the team, Shannon didn’t give up on him when he could have early in his time as hc but he didn’t,.. Now Sam is starting in the NFL when other wise he’d be a has been wr talking about what he could have done if someone woulda just believe in him a lil more…trust me I feel what u and many are saying but just offering a different perspective

  336. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    CC

    Nevertheless, more wins equals better attendance, CC not many in Miami would be interested in a Miami/Temple matchup at any time. That is why the U has to play the tough non-conference schedules they have been playing for years.

    I agree there is much to do in Miami and they will never fill the stadium on a consistent basis.

    The real pipe dream is to have a stadium that seats around 50k on campus.

    That aside… How are you doing these days….folks on this blog do care!

  337. Randy I just don’t get it. I really don’t

    Bahama he had plenty of time. A new coach needs to show progression. We have not shown that.

    It’s time.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  338. Bahama.

    I appreciate your dedication. BUT this team was BUILT to win THIS YEAR and it ISN’T. Why??? Because of BS that exists within the staff, within the team, and within the program. It ALL stinks. It is stagnant and uninspired. If I could I’d clean house at season’s end. What we need is a brand new start, a new, fresh, ENERGETIC perspective.

    JMO.

  339. new blog up

  340. Nashvillecane says:
    November 4, 2010 at 10:47 AM
    The canes could lose every game the rest of the season and at the same time the could win those games…IMO they split the and finish 7-5 and the dawgs will be out…the admin waits to see what happens at uga, see if they fire richt or not the go from there….as MUCH as I would love Shannon to turn this around, it don’t look good that he’s lost the trust, confidence, respect of the team from WHAT I READ…in a million years I never would have expected Shannon to have lost that..

    No Dogs Out Nash, C’Mon!

  341. avatar
    Hurricane Randy says:

    I love the Canes, can’t remember not being a Canes fan, I just want things to change to the point that our players are having fun and that they are allowed to be themselves, on and off the field. I’m not advocating what we see at Florida and other schools but things need to change. If that be the coach and staff so be it….if that means Randy having a ,” Come To Jesus, Moment.” So be it. Something has to change if the U is to become relevant again in college football.

    Do I want our players to become men, yes. Do I want them to graduate, yes. Do I want them to win, yes. What ever it takes……

    Sometimes for fresh air to be let into a program, you have to turn on the fan, open the windows, open the door and let the stale air out………just saying.

  342. Nash I am all for giving chances but at some point you have to realize this ain’t right and cut your losses.

    I am the type of person that sees an issue and attacks immediately because if you let something fester it only get’s worse.

    If shyte ain’t right I will be the first to let you know.

    I talk to my boss once every couple months and she always tells me “I love talking to you because you tell it like it is with no bullshyte.”

    I don’t sheep for anyone.

    I am up front and honest about my opinions and never just blast off without good reason. People get their feelings hurt and automatically think I am “hating” on someone just to hate. I am not that guy.

    Whether it is what people want to hear or not I could care less.

    I see what I see and it is time.

    Do we really need our coach being pulled around by his ear by O lil Shalaly making sure his kids are in class??? Really???

    There aren’t better things you should be doing with your time than intimidating your kids even when they are in class.

    We have puppets, not coaches for the most part.

    I have seen enough and I am done waiting for tomorrow. Nothing is going to change.

    What piece of RS do you know or have seen as being receptive to change??

    Dude is as rigid (that’s what she said)as it gets and if you think that someone is magically going to “get in his ear” and everything is going to change you are on crack.

    It is what it is.

    10-3

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  343. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Nash and Bahama, this situation is much deeper than I ever suspected. It’s not just a simple matter of hitting a couple of rough spots in games.
    RS has some FUNDAMENTAL FLAWS in his ability to lead. I don’t know how or why but he has simply MISSED or misunderstood the critical space BETWEEN the Xs and Os, namely how to organize, shape and connect with your players and get the most out of them. He also seems to be whimsical on who plays and who doesn’t, for reasons and logic that only HE seems to understand.

    I repeat, these are fundamental flaws that doom a person in leadership every single time they happen.

    It’s not an Xs and Os situation, which was why it’s been sort of hard to tell what the real, deep problems were, that combined with the rebuild made it difficult to separate the real problems from the margin of error given in any rebuilding situation.

    Also, his ability to sell the program made it difficult as well.

    But even if we win out, which we could with some good playcalling and some inspired defense, THE PROBLEMS WILL REMAIN AND MAY GET WORSE.

    There are only two roads: RS gets slapped upside the head by JJ, Kirby or someone else and realizes his serious mistakes and WHY he made them OR he needs to leave.

    I would like to see him come to his senses but the odds of someone as stubborn and focused as he is doing that are slim.

  344. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JerseyCanes
    November 4, 2010 at 10:05 AM
    Well – They better get a contigency plan….
    i’m just saying…

    To paraphrase a poster form another site – here is an interesting question.

    Taking into consideration his body of work – If the job was open today, would Donna still hire Randy as HC?

    If her answer is no – then there is no need for him to be around.

    And for the Record – I WAS a Randy supporter.

    JC

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Jersey, well said. I was a Shannon supporter too but he has flaws that need serious attention. The program is in good shape talent-wise for someone to come in and turn it around IMMEDIATELY.

    If Shannon doesn’t come to his senses, he needs to be released, like any other underperformer.

  345. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    Capt O says

    But even if we win out, which we could with some good playcalling and some inspired defense, THE PROBLEMS WILL REMAIN AND MAY GET WORSE.

    I’ve heard this argument before that even if we win, things just get worse because the problem is the Head Coach and in order for him to leave we must lose. These must be the fans who root for us to lose on Saturdays

  346. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    Go Jackets… Beat the Hokies!!!!

  347. Randy thanks for the update on grad rate info-

    Canez1 rip em a new arse!! Love it!!

    Go Canes! Bring Back JJ

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