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Eye of the Hurricane Top 25 Countdown: #7 Ray Ray Armstrong #6 Seantrel Henderson

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Welcome back to Eye of the Hurricane’s Top 25 countdown!  As you may recall, this is a reader’s poll countdown which reflects readers’ assessment of the following attributes in the 2011 edition of the Miami Hurricanes:  past performance, raw talent (size, 40 time, etc.), how valuable they are to the team (i.e., how screwed are we if this dude gets injured).  On to the countdown . . .

#7 Ray Ray Armstrong:   Do you remember where you were when Ray Ray committed to the ‘Canes?  I do.  Ray Ray was my national signing day crush (like a rush crush for you fellow sorority girls out there) for 2009.  I was trying to train my beloved Sebastian (my puppy, not my fiancé, the Ibis) how to roll over with the help of some rotisserie chicken and Ray Ray committed.  I was so excited that I dropped the piece of chicken to throw up the []_[] and holler.  Sebastian grabbed the chicken and remains a one-trick puppy, but it is okay, because we got Ray Ray!

Why He Appears Here:  As a freshman in 2009, Armstrong played in 10 games, recording 14 tackles. As a sophomore in 2010 Armstrong took over as a starter and has 66 tackles, three interceptions and a touchdown in 11 games.  In the Dade county scrimmage in 2011, he almost incited a blonde attorney to run into the defense huddle and bark and growl and beat her chest.   But he might be best known for the hit on Chokelahoma’s Demarco Murray, as shown in the clip below.

2011 Outlook: THIS IS RAY RAY’S YEAR!  [beats chest]  For anyone who saw him in the spring scrimmages, you know he is amped up.  Rumor has it that Shannon often benched him for making technical errors and playing by instinct.  Something tells me Coach D’Onofrio and Paul Williams will embrace Ray Ray’s fire first and worry about making precise movements second.  Now let’s hope he can play S and CB at the same time . . . or QB. 

 

#6 Seantrel Henderson:  Speaking of national signing day crushes, Seantrel was mine for 2010.  When bg capriciously announced that he was coming to the []_[], I sprang up from my office chair and started jumping up and down and confirming to my co-workers that I am, in fact, crazy.  And then he committed to USC.  Whatever.  He is here now, didn’t transfer along with the rest of the puff puff pass crew, and I’m determined to heal that back of his with copious amounts of cupcakes. 

Why He Appears Here:  As a freshman in 2010, Seantrel started 9 of the 12 games he played in for Miami seeing most of his action at the right tackle position.  The ‘Canes averaged 494.9 yards per game with Seantrel in the starting lineup and he graded out at 100 percent in just his second collegiate game, against Pittsburgh.  Named  2010 College Football News First Team Freshmen All-American, 2010 Rivals.com First Team Freshmen All-American, 2010 Phil Steele Second Team Freshmen All-American.  That, and he causes solar eclipses when he walks by you. 

2011 Outlook:  Do we have a neurosurgeon in the house?  Seantrel had surgery on his back last week and from all accounts it was “very positive.”  But knowing what people know about backs (about as much as a suckeye knows about ethics), his prognosis is uncertain.  We do know he has been released from the hospital and has started rehab.  Either way, Seantrel was suspended for the Maryland game so the soonest we could have hoped to see him was against those dirty stinking lying cheating suckeyes on September 17.  Get well soon, Seantrel and let me know what flavor of cupcakes is your fav (that he will of course pay for, back off NCAA)!

  1. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Holla

  2. Nice first, Nash!

    Virgin jello shots coming your way! :-)

  3. avatar
    HearAcane says:

    third……still in the money

  4. JSQ, prayers for Sebastian!

  5. Thanks, HD69! I miss my little shadow so much. :-(

  6. HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO ESTEBAN!!!

  7. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    Happy birthday, Este!

    Leos rule!

    :)

  8. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    Happy B-day Este!!

    Manny about to come on wqam..

  9. appreciate the bday wishes….and this is also a pre-emptive thanks for any to come. no point in repeating myself….unless to say Figs!!

  10. Any guesses what the top 5 of the countdown looks like?

  11. avatar
    raizecane says:

    Este – Happy Birthday…..

  12. http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/6866006/ncaa-probe-miami-hurricanes-coach-al-golden-says-players-made-mistakes

    “It’s hard for me to stand up here and defend something that occurred three, four, five, six years ago,” Golden said. “I don’t know the extent of it. We’re going to look at it. We’re disappointed, but we’re not discouraged.”

  13. avatar
    raizecane says:

    last time i checked current players meant current….not 4, 5, 6 years ago.

  14. Go Canes!

  15. http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/fl-ncaa-visit-miami-hurricanes-0815-20110814,0,339917.story

    “When Nevin Shapiro made his allegations nearly a year ago, he and his attorneys refused to provide any facts to the University of Miami,” UM stated. “The University notified the NCAA Enforcement officials of these allegations. We are fully cooperating with the NCAA and are conducting a joint investigation. The University of Miami takes these matters very seriously.”

  16. avatar
    raizecane says:

    Sounds like they tried to blackmail Miami……who knows.

  17. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Nxt time I win send some slider sammaches my way…

  18. Sounds like Shapiro is a little light in the loafers and got his feelings hurt that all these athletes didn’t want to hang out with him after they made their own $$$.

    Don’t worry, Nevin, there are going to be A LOT of guys that want to hang out with you now.

    Ooops, you dropped the soap! Time to bend over, bish.

  19. anyone download Madden 12 yet? i know it got me rethinking my plan of only getting one football game a year. might not be enough time to try to own both.

  20. avatar
    raizecane says:

    MONDAY, Aug. 15 (HealthDay News) — Spending your days in front of the television may contribute to a shortened lifespan, a new study suggests.
    Researchers in Australia found that people who averaged six hours a day of TV lived, on average, nearly five years less than people who watched no TV.
    For every hour of television watched after age 25, lifespan fell by 22 minutes, according to the research led by Dr. J. Lennert Veerman of the University of Queensland.

  21. avatar
    raizecane says:

    Esteban says:
    August 16, 2011 at 12:52 PM
    anyone download Madden 12 yet? i know it got me rethinking my plan of only getting one football game a year. might not be enough time to try to own both.

    **********************************************************

    I will be getting my copy on the 29th. One day before general release.

  22. Raize, no bad talk about tv.

    Omar comin.

    For all of you that don’t get the references, you are missing the best show ever.

    Hush, Esteban.

  23. este – happy birthday!

    and regarding your “thank you” above – you’re welcome

  24. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    lol JSQ

    Little Nevin will have twenty years to perfect his catching technique.

  25. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Canez1
    August 16, 2011 at 1:07 PM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uBqs2CWsrRI

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    —-LOL

  26. raize, i had no intention of getting Madden…but the demo at first had me thinking i got the wrong football game this year. then i played my dynasty in NCAA (i’m running that triple option with GTech) and switched to wanting to add instead of replace.

    still make time for def jam rapstars tho. i need to get my 5 mics.

  27. raizecane

    figs has been on the team 6 years.

  28. Nash LOL

    A little Spanish Flair for my boy.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  29. hassan
    August 16, 2011 at 1:26 PM
    raizecane

    figs has been on the team 16 years.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Fixed.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  30. Enjoy the day Este!

  31. hassan, you still overseas? you saw the speed numbers right?

  32. Esteban my PR bro from another mother! Happy Birthday Big Homie! Enjoy your day!

  33. HIGH PERFORMANCE PLAYERS
    Throughout camp, HurricaneSports.com will highlight some of the best performers in each day’s practice. While there are certainly other players who stood out throughout the course of the session, these student-athletes in particular caught our eye.

    Offense
    QB Jacory Harris – Harris picked up right where he left off after a solid performance in Sunday’s scrimmage, looking sharp in directing the offense throughout the morning. The senior completed the majority of his passes and picked up decent yardage when forced to scramble. At the end of the session, Harris methodically led the offense down the field in a two-minute drill, capping it off with a 6-yard touchdown pass to running back Mike James.

    C Tyler Horn – Not only has Horn been one of the Canes’ most consistent performers in camp, but the senior center continues to take a leadership role not only with the offensive line, but with the entire team. On several occasions on Tuesday, Horn could be heard above others coaching up his teammates in between plays. His impact was just as evident once the ball was snapped, as seemingly every play he is in the right spot and holding his ground.

    Defense
    DB Mike Williams – Yet again, Williams continues to impress early in camp. The Wake Forest transfer is consistent in coverage and maybe more noticeably, he isn’t afraid to tackle. Several times throughout the morning, running plays that bounced to his side of the field were quickly stalled, as Williams fought off his receiver to meet the back near the line of scrimmage. Being a veteran, he clearly understands the importance of being a well-rounded corner.

    DE Andrew Smith – One of many defensive ends expecting to be a part of the rotation this season, Smith stood out on Tuesday with consistent pressure in the backfield, several tackles and a big pass break-up late in the session. Heading into his final season with the Canes, Smith has played in 30 career games and is coming off a year in which he tied for fourth on the team with three sacks

    Now just to wait for C1′s hate rant vs J12! ;-)

  34. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    This would suck……

    Ivan_Maisel Ivan Maisel
    #NCAA woes in #Miami mean ’01 BCS champs may join fallen No. 1s from ’02 (#OhioState), ’04 (#USC). Jury out on ’10 (#Auburn). #whatadecade

  35. Ohio State didn’t have their title removed tho. USC’s investigation had started within 4 years of Reggie Bush leaving.

  36. Happy b-day Este

  37. http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f142/bigbadvoo/GolfClap.gif

    Shout out to a below avg QB doing what an avg QB is supposed to do.

    http://eborg3.com/Facebook-Animations/Dancing/an-HappyDance.gif

    How far the mighty have fallen…

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  38. Ivan Maisel = talking out of his a$$.

    Calm down.

    Nothing has happened.

  39. Ivan Maisel talking outta his ass.

  40. Lol JSQ.

  41. CK,

    JINX!

    You owe me a coke.

  42. BLAST!

  43. I’ve never taken what Maisel has said too much to heart.

    If what happened to Bruce had fallen upon Ivan, I know we would not have seen the outpour of support that Bruce received.

  44. I would have posted how I really felt about him but did not want to get banned!

  45. Cue C1 as expected! hahahaha!

  46. I don’t disappoint!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  47. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Happy Birthday Esteban.

  48. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    It would be nice to see these “high performances” in an actual game against a decent opponent for a change.

    Sometimes it’s easy to look good against dudes you practice against everyday. Let’s see it vs another team before we start buying into press clippings again.

    #NoMorePaperChampions

  49. Nice, Delray.

    Anyway . . .

    People on Facebook are annoying. Bunch of chicken littles.

    Dude defrauded people out of millions of dollars but since he said something about the []_[] it must be true and there must be evidence and the sky must be falling.

    People need to settle down.

  50. DaytonCane
    August 16, 2011 at 2:50 PM
    It would be nice to see these “high performances” in an actual game against a decent opponent for a change.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    This right here!!

    Dayton we have all heard this song and dance for years!!!

    And guess how those seasons turned out.

    Some people will never learn…

    http://www.gifbin.com/bin/480503758.gif

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  51. and even if all that is the case, it must have happened within the statute of limitations.

    Has anyone considered that this dude is just doing this for book publicity and knows his claims won’t lead anywhere?

    Oh, wait, Shapiro is an upstanding citizen and wouldn’t do something just for financial gain.

    Right.

    Some of our fans are f@cking annoying and kind of stupid.

    Sorry, it has to be said.

  52. If I see another post that pi$$es me off, Seantrel and Ray Ray are having their blog time cut short.

    F@cking sick of people being such Debbie Downers.

    Let it play out. Maybe it’s true, maybe it’s not. Maybe there is evidence, maybe not. Maybe it happened within the SOL, maybe not.

    Until then, we have a lot of positive to focus on.

  53. Has anyone considered that this dude is just doing this for book publicity and knows his claims won’t lead anywhere?

    Oh, wait, Shapiro is an upstanding citizen and wouldn’t do something just for financial gain.

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    From what I’ve been reading this Ms. Perez is not very credible either.

  54. F@cking sick of people being such Debbie Downers

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    More Porn!

  55. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    Enough of this possible probation talk..Lets get back to SM17 vs J12..Lol

  56. JSQ
    August 16, 2011 at 2:57 PM
    . . .
    Until then, we have a lot of positive to focus on.
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    you ain't kiddin' sister

    for example:
    . . . posts regarding morris-harris have been cut by 3/4's the last 2 days

  57. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    JSQ, its a well known fact that people on facebook are not annoying.

    I mean, I take a lot of joy out of reading about the relationship failures of so many people. Not to mention the countless amount of women having babies just for the hell of it and then posting them all over facebook as trophies. It must be the new fad to get pregnant at an early age by a dude who has nothing going for himself and then brag to your (not you) friends like you weren’t partially at fault for it too.

    I’m pretty sure they post it because everyone in the world wants to know their personal info. But I could be wrong.

  58. FREE DZ8 ! !

  59. Delray, she can be sued herself. There is no suit by Shapiro against UM that I am aware of so the litigation exception to libel and slander is inapplicable. At the very least, it shows EXTREMELY questionable legal ethics to be making these allegations to the press.

    Which leads me to believe there isn’t any evidence to back up what she is saying. If there was, she could just point to the evidence and not stick her neck out.

  60. not much to comment about when it comes to Henderson. still don’t know if he’ll even play.

    but Ray Ray. expecting an all american type season from him this year. maybe not 1st team, but maybe 3rd team.

  61. Amen, Dayton.

    That’s why I only post about ‘Canes. If you are offended by my excessive fanhood, delete me. I am what I am but the most personal I get is posting pictures of my fiance Sebastian the Ibis and me. Can’t stand that ish.

  62. Any predictions on the top 5 of the countdown? Can you guys guess who is left?

  63. yea, JSQ i’m no lawyer (although i pretend to be at times to those who don’t know i’m not) but even i could see what she was saying was something that wouldn’t be said if there was real, solid proof.

  64. avatar
    moneycane says:

    I post pics of my little one because the bulk of my family lives out of town.

  65. spence, bwash, fortson, travis, wieclaw.

    and as much as the The West ’08 crew gets criticized at times that’s 3 of them among the top 5.

  66. Washington, Spence, Miller, TB3, Forston

  67. avatar
    moneycane says:

    Spence, Bwash, Big Boom, TB3, and Spencer Whipple coming in at #1

  68. Well if we are going to go with funny #1′s my vote is Chris Ivory

  69. Hey blondie, here’s my motivation cards for you today: Miami geography, Visine w/Q-tips & Miami Geographical Charts! SEAN TAYLOR went to gulliver prep, he grew up in the goulds/perrine area(if you knew anything about that area you wouldn’t be miss quoting me), apparently you missed a whole lot about what i wrote. In fact to be a lil more clear, i grew up with SEAN TAYLOR’S cousins and his uncle taught boxing for years over at Allapatah, who also came up with Muhammad Ali, SEAN TAYLOR was a lil jit back than, they use to come up to the city evey now and than back in the day, so you can squash the soft talk for that area. Go see coach don soldingers highschool coaching career and than come correct.

    Even vilma knows that highschool he went to was never respected by the city, he knows the breakdown and most people from Miami do as well. I got an idea, i’m going to go and buy you some hair rinse(any color of your preference besides what’s seepin in and causing distortion)and let’s see if that does the trick!

  70. Was looking at the top 20 runningbacks they got listed this year, “Truth miller” nor mike james was listed in the top 20, but they got david wilson from v-tech in there, and he has talent for sure but if you don’t have miller in there, and hell the leading rusher last year was james from oregon with 1793 yards, speaking of cake walks.

    And esteban, as soon as street starting his thing, those vampires will try to come out inthe day too to act as if they’ve been ahead of the momentum.
    I luv how al golden is coaching these guys though for real. When you read what he said about street, ok, he had 3 touchdowns in the scrimmage, but all goldie is saying is, ok, that’s 1 day, instead of 2 we need 5 to get an average!

  71. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Top 5 right now:

    Chad Barnes, Ben Bruneau, Akil Craig, Sean McNally, Jordan Tolson.

  72. We can pick one school and go with the northwestern 8, aaron hernandez, the only talking point for the whole state. In fact, that team from the west had many guys go D-1, the linebacker for nebraska played with spence and them, he starts and might be up for top b12 honors as well!

  73. Good to see Calvin is getting more inclusive with his definition of “the heart of Miami” to now include everything but Stephen Morris’ house.

    Progress

  74. avatar
    moneycane says:

    We can’t leave out Sean Goldstein. He brought it during the Canes Treasure hunt.

  75. JSQ I’m reading some legal jargon about dynasty trusts and a client’s life insurance death benefit distributions…I now remember why I didn’t go the legal route lol.

  76. Ok I’m headed to the heart of Miami ( south Boca) to pick up Sebas from the doggy doctor.

  77. avatar
    CANE FAN KB says:

    So I’ve been thinking. We had an arrest this off-season with Ramon Buchanon and now with the “off-field distraction” of the Nevin Shapiro situation,this can only mean one thing: MIAMI HURRICANES 2011 NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!! THE U IS BACK!!

  78. Este Happy BDay to you boricua! Hope you get a nice day w/ family!

  79. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Is Goldstein still on the team, Money?

    If so that was a major omission on my part. Dude is ballin out of control when it comes to treasure hunts.

  80. way he’s trying to piss on everyone, they should spell his name “shapeero”

  81. The vet tech said they don’t want to give Sebastian back because he is such a sweetheart!

    Another ‘Cane convert because of my sweet handsome boy.

  82. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    I read on twitter that “take it in the arse sheeparos” attorney is a UM grad!!!

  83. Lol about the treasure hunts!

  84. avatar
    moneycane says:

    Dayton he was in the treasure hunt video that was posted on hurricane sports so I am assuming he is on the team.

  85. avatar
    canezilla says:

    AS LONG AS THEY DONT TAKE OUR 1 POINT VICTORY OVER NEVADA ON THE BLUE TURF IM STR8

  86. When I posted how crazy the negative publicity would be I was dead on: some of these are pretty though.

    ** From 2001-2010, every time a Hurricanes recruit visited the Orange Bowl locker room, they were greeted by a fully nude Bernie Kosar, completely unsahven, half-drunk and in a three-point stance, demanding that they step forward and “join the team.” (Note: current NCAA rules don’t specifically prohibit this, but if that doesn’t fall under the umbrella of “improper contact”, what does?)

    http://www.sbnation.com/ncaa-football/2011/8/16/2366399/miami-hurricanes-scandal-ideas

  87. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Shouldn’t SH be MB???

    LM, MJ, QB, MF, SS, JG- the man in the middle has to be one of the top five keys to the season.

  88. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    canezilla
    August 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM
    AS LONG AS THEY DONT TAKE OUR 1 POINT VICTORY OVER NEVADA ON THE BLUE TURF IM STR8

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    lol

  89. Cavaleer, I am just the calculator, that question needs to be answered by your EOTH brethren.

  90. Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    August 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM
    canezilla
    August 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM
    AS LONG AS THEY DONT TAKE OUR 1 POINT VICTORY OVER NEVADA ON THE BLUE TURF IM STR8

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    lol

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    agree

  91. i miss MoiJones
    . . . not his comments . . . but the ones that came back at him from JSQ

    free macjones

  92. moi checking out

  93. JSQ says:
    August 16, 2011 at 3:30 PM
    Good to see Calvin is getting more inclusive with his definition of “the heart of Miami” to now include everything but Stephen Morris’ house.

    Progress
    ///////////////////////

    FREE macjones, and we might think about relieving you of your now earned applesauce naziette title, that would be real Progress, otherwise i’m going to leave you outta of the frigerator for 23hours and than have Canze1 taste to see if you spoiled!

  94. avatar
    PhillyCane says:

    Happy bday esteban

    eh?

  95. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    canezilla

    August 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM

    AS LONG AS THEY DONT TAKE OUR 1 POINT VICTORY OVER NEVADA ON THE BLUE TURF IM STR8
    —————————————-

    +1

    No doubt one of the most important wins in Hurricane history.

  96. Also, the main reason these allegations are coming up, those who study history already know, when we have an experienced headcoach in place, a championship is coming, the fear is already back and there is only one that can stop us. They knew as long as shannon was here fighting the powers that be, it was going to be a slow process, but now that goldie is at the helm, they really know what’s coming.

    shapiro, one of those wanna be cool mofo’s trying to hang round the have nots, you already know they were gone sucka him. Like back in the day when you didn’t like somebody so you just ask them for money all the time, hey man, let me hold something, you know, make em pay for being around you but they don’t know that, they feeling like they cool as hell.

  97. autumn says:
    August 16, 2011 at 4:56 PM
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer
    August 16, 2011 at 4:44 PM
    canezilla
    August 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM
    AS LONG AS THEY DONT TAKE OUR 1 POINT VICTORY OVER NEVADA ON THE BLUE TURF IM STR8

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    lol

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    agree
    //////////////////////////////

    This the victory that has boise st. scared to put us on there schedule!

  98. avatar
    canezilla says:

    CANT BELIVE THAT WAS OUR LAST BOWL WIN.IT FEELS LIKE IT WAS 5 YEARS AGO…OH WAIT!!!

  99. AlGoldensHair Al Golden’s Hair
    by Canes411
    F Nevin Shapiro. From now on the only Jew allowed on campus is Jedd Fisch. #UM #Canes

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  100. That bytch was on New Years Eve too.

    Had to fight people to keep that pile of dogshiz on.

    Worst NYE ever.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  101. LMAO at everyhing, but especially Al Golden’s hair.

    Shwarma, tell your people to GTFO.

  102. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    going a little old school

    JimmyJohnson Jimmy Johnson
    Miami haters will come out of woodwork with OLD NEWS and NCAA
    7 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply

  103. By the way, for any of you still taking this Shapiro ish seriously, EOTH and CI will have an article addressing it tomorrow.

    Pass it along to all the chicken littles you know.

  104. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Canez1, stereotyping jews is teeeeerible.

    http://images.bizrate.com/resize?sq=450&uid=11704746

  105. Dayton LOL I blame my boy Howard Stern for it all.

    Hook Nose Jew Bastard.

    :-)

    Stupit Shwarm

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  106. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    BTW

    Before you get to comfortable about this shapiro shyte, you may want to read this

    BryanDFischer Bryan Fischer
    RT @DanWetzel: Nevin Shapiro details his 8-year run of violations at Miami to Yahoo! Sports http://t.co/gdXtcsx

  107. Esteban. Since you are the birthday boy I take it you aren’t available to record. So I’ll go solo with MM01. Holla @ me if my assumption is WRONG! Ha!

  108. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    ^^^^^^if 10% of it is true our arses are in for some major NCAA pounding

  109. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    However, eight former Miami players or recruits confirmed receiving illicit benefits from Shapiro.

    That included former Miami running back Tyrone Moss, who was one of dozens of players Shapiro named when speaking to NCAA investigators about his activity with Hurricanes players. According to Shapiro, he hosted Moss on his $1.6 million yacht and also gave the player a $1,000 cash payment.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news?slug=cr-renegade_miami_booster_details_illicit_benefits_081611

  110. Sailor.

    Still comfortable.

    Wait until tomorrow.

  111. Hilarious picture.

    You can take one look at that guy and see he has a tiny . . .

    um, ego.

    #hangingoutwithathletesdoesntmakeitgrow

  112. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    LOL@JSQ.

  113. Prostitutes? For who? Him? Male or female?

    #nationalchampionsdontpayforpu$$y

  114. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    JSQ

    I hear you, just disappointed that this shyte comes out and becomes a distraction for the team

    Just cant seem to wrap my brain around the fact that any of this alledged crap took place under Donna’s nose, she is a real hound dog on these issues

    Gotta give RS props tho for telling the dounchebag to fuk off

  115. Ish goes on everywhere, Sailor.

    Just saying this ish is libelous and where not, is (1) past the SOL and (2) does not rise to the level of the kind of sactions we fear.

    Jailhouse interviews = not evidence.

    And someone already has a bar complaint against her: http://www.flsd.uscourts.gov/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/2010-51Reference-to-Ad-Hoc-Committee-on-Attorney-Admissions-Peer-Review-and-Attorney-Grievance-for-the-United-States-District-Court-Southern-District-of-Florida.pdf

    Don’t fall for this ish.

  116. Now we know why Haith got outta dodge so quickly and unexpectedly. This is a DAMNING article. We are in a world of shizz!

  117. Paid for abortions?

    HILARIOUS!

    What bish you know that gets down with athletes is going to abort Bryant McKinnie Jr.?!?!

    #itspayday

  118. Just trying to get you guys to think with common sense, not emotion.

  119. Bg, I hope you are kidding.

    Smh.

    Good thing you guys are not defense attorneys.

  120. SailorCane says:
    August 16, 2011 at 6:23 PM
    JSQ

    I hear you, just disappointed that this shyte comes out and becomes a distraction for the team

    Just cant seem to wrap my brain around the fact that any of this alledged crap took place under Donna’s nose, she is a real hound dog on these issues

    Gotta give RS props tho for telling the dounchebag to fuk off
    ///////////////////////////////

    goldie is good in situations like this, he’ll rally the team to focus even more and just worry about what they do from here on in. shapiro can detail all he wants, bottom line is, he was just another guy sack riding the players, the media can’t hype this one up to much cause they don’t have anything to go off of.

    And when you got guys like kirk herbstreit, who like goldie, they were inspired to play like Hurricanes. Who cares if the nc2A is on campus, let swasey get a hold of em, put them thru the Utough, they’ll be outta here before Sun down.

  121. Y’all need to stop reading those sites that you KNOW play on your emotions to sell memberships.

    Shameless.

  122. JSQ.

    Not just based on my personal thoughts. I hope it does prove to be nothing but when former players ADMIT to stuff like Moss then we got problems. All of them needed to DENY, DENY, DENY. When one guys bites and says yeah i did it, that makes things BAD.

  123. Hurtt, Aubrey Hill, and Stoutland all named.

  124. Fluzzi named.

  125. You gotta luv the fact that guys like shapiro and madoff, only, only caucasians can get away with that type of shat in the U.S. for that long. A brotha let his account get past $75k and here they come with the audit shat. Now way they gone let 930million sit up under a brotha’s name and he looking regular. If a brotha got that much money somewhere and he looking like he never touched a weight in his life, man they just gone hand you a key to the stockade and let you know what time to report.

  126. bg,

    Still hearsay.

    Produce a bank record or GTFOH, Tyrone.

  127. Its all he say she say but the allegations still are bad. hopefully they can’t be proven but they are bad NONE THE LESS.

  128. This mofo had enuff money to help bring the nationa deficit down a notch. I heard somebody ask “i wonder if they turned the $150k back in once they found out” return it back to who, hell, they already used that money, plus, a school can’t do background checks on boosters like that. Just like anybody on here might be working at an illegal job righ now!

  129. Good then is that a lot of the allegations sound OUTRAGEOUS and lots of people are denying. Everyone needed to deny to no end. I can’t fathom why Moss would admit anything.

  130. Canez1, what is it that you do again, by the way and in the meantime, give me 25 on L7!!

  131. Seems to me we’re going to be in some crap.

  132. bg, I’m not basing my statements on my personal thoughts either.

    People need to settle down.

    We have known about this for a year.

    People just like to get themselves worked up about ish.

  133. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    Calvin

    UM did return almost $140,000 over to bankruptcy trustee

  134. The money he pledged was never really paid. UM got less that 10K of that donation. That’s why his name got pulled.

  135. JSQ I trust in your thoughts on this, but my ass is clinched up so tight right now I can barely walk. I’ll wait for more news before I lose control, but without some kind of good rebuttal soon I’ll be in full panic mode. Lil luke what a fkn scumbag. 11 months investigating and players admitting….ok ok I’m good…

  136. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    OMG!!!!

    SOMEBODY HELP US, THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!

    WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!!!!

  137. CIKY,

    People say ish to sell newspapers, memberships and books.

    This ALL came out last year.

    In other news, Lebron James is taking his talents to South Beach.

    Everyone needs to calm down.

  138. Canechic is that you?

  139. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    JSQ, ya, but, there are some pretty bad allegations in that report

    I mean seriously with all those allegations, if we walk away from this with a slap on the hand, I just dont see it

    NCAA gotta do something, their credability is already in question, they may just make us their bytch

    Also read that if they determine that the university turned a blind eye to these alledged improper benefits that the statute of limitations may be increased

  140. All I’m saying is these are serious allegations and can have dire consequences. I think this is worth concern and having a Cavalier attitude about is just something I can’t do.

  141. Fk the diet tonight, gettin a pizza a bottle of bacardi and avoiding the sports side of tv. Damn last time I did this 9 mos later my fifth was born. (note to self pizz off wife before I start)
    Dayton I won’t die but I truly bleed Orange and Green and this shiz gives me ulcers
    Sailor your not helping me lol

  142. bg1906 says:
    August 16, 2011 at 6:42 PM
    Good then is that a lot of the allegations sound OUTRAGEOUS and lots of people are denying. Everyone needed to deny to no end. I can’t fathom why Moss would admit anything.
    //////////////////////////////

    They tricked em and told em this was the pre-combine test, so he still thinks he can get in the nfl!

  143. See this is the stuff that hurts you…

    Three sources, including two former Miami football players, confirmed that Shaprio offered bounties.

  144. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    bg, agreed

    until something comes out the is without a doubt a full rebuttle of this shyte, I am with CIKY, except I am cracking walnuts between my arse cheeks

  145. The ghey vibe is getting stronger round here by the second!!

    The only proof Moss has on us are Arby’s receipts for the time he was here.

    He ate the evidence.

    Cal LMAO!!!

    If I told ya I would have to kill ya.

    Looks like the only thing Joe Clark had on lock down was his personality.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWyLHU4ZaN0&feature=related

    Everything else was runnin buck wild!!

    J/K debs

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  146. Canez1 is actually a woman.

    Calvin is really from Beverly Hills.

    Shwarma worships Jesus.

    Autumn has secretly been living in the US the whole time.

    I don’t have a dog named Sebastian.

    Sailor hates to sail.

    ^ all in print, must be true.

  147. What’s even worse is its Basketball and Football….That usually equals LACK OF INSTITUTIONAL CONTROL…

    You guys better wake up, this is SERIOUS!

  148. DON’T WATCH ESPN, they had to get us in the news one way or another.
    This goes out to nevin shapiro, the footballs do boy:

    http://youtu.be/JU9TouRnO84

  149. Wow, guilty until proven innocent.

    You guys are cracking me up.

    Have fun. It’s your ulcer, not mine.

  150. THE SKY IS FALLING!

    Lol.

    Wait until tomorrow.

  151. Three sources, including two former Miami football players, confirmed that Shaprio offered bounties.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Did Dent hold the money??

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  152. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    JSQ

    What time tomorrow?

  153. You guys brush it off it you want, but if and when it hits the fan and I guarantee you it will, please don’t act surprised. They are going to nail us to the wall. Believe what you want but I’m telling you they will make us and example. Especially since the head of NCAA compliance is PAUL DEE. Can’t play favorites. As long as some guys have admitted to wrong doing we are going to get slammed. I hate to say that and it saddens me deeply but I’m telling this will not be a fly by night no big deal.

  154. In the afternoon, Sailor.

    Still getting a brief filed here.

    But you guys feel free to freak out before then! Have fun!

  155. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    Wonder how our recruiting is gonna fair or hold up after this report

  156. Oh, it’s e-dawg’s birthday!
    http://youtu.be/KjYdfRNrcks

  157. I wish this bad feeling I have was just gas.

    Last time I felt like this all day Miami lost to some guys from Tampa Florida..

  158. Serious question since we have us lay folk in one corner thinking this ish is pretty bad and JSQ in the other saying its all cool:

    What will the NCAA think? Last time I checked they aren’t a legal court. Just a bureaucratic governing body. So while some proof is needed, I don’t think they to prove anything beyond 100% reasonable doubt (just could effect the level of sanctions).

    Tyrone Moss needs to STFU….

    And keep talking ish about the Jews…I will take our stereotypes over most of yours…I mean after all could be worse things than being smart and rich….

  159. Everyone sees this as BAD but the people here.

    allCanes Radio
    just finished yahoo article #Canes fans prepare for the worst. this is very very very bad.

    dennisdoddcbs Dennis Dodd
    by allCanesBlog
    Biggest scandal ever? It’s in the top two sez me. React to me, Twitter.

    Manny_Navarro Manny Navarro
    The Yahoo! story on #UM: t.co/U0 Maybe the end of the football program? Trouble ahead for sure

    U guys better wake up

  160. SailorCane says:
    August 16, 2011 at 7:04 PM

    Wonder how our recruiting is gonna fair or hold up after this report

    —————–

    Recruiting? LOL. If this story grows a set of legs we’ll be lucky to have a football team. The NCAA loves to prey on private schools. And the fact that this team has already had NCAA related issues in the PAST?

    Like BG said. We’ll be made an example.

  161. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    Bennie

    I would take an 0-12 season over the shyte-storm about to be laid upon Coral Gables

  162. bg you trying to put me on suicide watch? SIGH….kidding of course but I can’t help but be MAJORLY bummed right now. I’m out till tomorrow or 3 am cuz I can’t sleep and run back to cpu whichever comes first….

  163. SailorCane says:
    August 16, 2011 at 7:07 PM

    Bennie

    I would take an 0-12 season over the shyte-storm about to be laid upon Coral Gables

    ——————-

    Doesn’t seem to me like this ends well. Even acclaimed “insiders” have gone quiet on matters. Earlier today it was “just wait and relax”.. Now, nothing.

  164. Everyone else is jumping off a bridge, guess I will too!

    Lol. There, there, bg.

    Shwarma, the NCAA still needs evidence. They can’t go off the hearsay of bitter betsy boosters and has beens to deprive the University of Miami of its property without due process.

  165. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    BG I once again agree with you. However, I do not think the “death penalty” will be forthcoming

    After SMU the NCAA vowed to never enforce the DP

    However, bowls, schollies, etc are gonna be headed our way

    Good thing is AG is or I hope he is our Butch Davis to lead us out

  166. Okay I’m done.

    Y’all have gone canechic on me.

    See you tomorrow.

  167. JSQ..

    The photos with former players from the early 2000′s aren’t helpful at all. That’s just a glimpse at what he has in his arsenal. That in and of itself is going to give the NCAA reasonable doubt.

  168. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    WE ARE TAKING ENEMY FIRE!!! IT’S A TRAP!!!!!!

    ABORT, ABORT ABORT!!!!

    I REPEAT, ABORT, ABORT, ABORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  169. JSQ.

    You know I got mad love for you babe, but to say this isn’t bad is NAIVE at the very least. This is very bad and no 2 ways around it. We’ll be in the news like tOSU for the next week or so REPEATEDLY on this. Just watch and see. We all love Miami but this is bad and we better prepare for the worse and hope the worse never comes!

  170. Now we also see why Kirby dipped in the middle of night, just like Pete Carroll. They saw this coming!

  171. Sigh.

    You guys need help.

    Bennie, the reasonable doubt standard is for criminal prosecutions and the burden of proof is on the prosecution. No one is presumed guilty. Google “Bill of Rights.” The NCAA has a different procedure, but under the 5th and 14th amendment, no one can be deprived of their property without due process of law. The football team is property of the University of Miami as it derives money for the University.

    Please, people, do some minimal research before you believe a bunch of stuff meant to get you worked up.

    Bg, please talk to some of your people before you go play in the Beltway traffic.

    Preferably not the ones who are drama queens who like to listen to themselves talk, without naming any names.

  172. LMAO, Canechic has cloned herself and taken over the blog!!

    AHHHHHHHH!!!!

  173. autumn says:
    August 16, 2011 at 3:08 PM
    FREE DZ8 ! !

    Been paroled! :)

  174. You are sooo hot when you talk that legalese stuff defending THE U!!

  175. P.S., Bennie, if you ever get arrested, don’t say a motherf@cking thing except “I want an attorney.”

    Worried about you . . .

  176. My motto is never worry about ish you can’t control.

    I suggest everyone adopts the same.

    http://paidcontent.org/images/editorial/_original/worried-couple-looking-up-the-sky-is-falling-o.jpg

    We have been on a “self imposed” probation on the field anyway for the past seven years.

    What difference will a few more years make??BFD

    Can’t hurt an already battered fan.

    Shwarm LMAO!! Well played sir. ;-)

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  177. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    MARY, GET THE HELL OUT OF THERE NOW!!!!!

    ABORT, ABORT, ABORT!!!!!!!!!!!!

  178. Happy birthday Esteban. A drink on me at the game (20 days away!).

  179. LMAO, DZ8.

    I’ve been making a couple of moves today that would make you have to throw away those boxer briefs.

    I don’t play.

  180. moneycane
    August 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM

    We can’t leave out Sean Goldstein. He brought it during the Canes Treasure hunt.
    ————

    ahahahahahahahahah wow. hilarious.

  181. JSQ.

    That was a low blow, but it wasn’t any of the usual suspects you’d think.

  182. Can we at least get busted for something 1st before we talk all this doom and gloom.
    We are cooperating w/NCAA and investigating it ourselves. NCAA loves that stuff.

    Silly to over react IMO.

  183. I’m prepared for the worse.

    Jstank starting at UMD.

    NCAA??? PFFFFT.

    Bring it!!

    Can’t break a broken heart.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  184. We have been on a “self imposed” probation on the field anyway for the past seven years.

    What difference will a few more years make??BFD

    Can’t hurt an already battered fan
    ————-

    Amen my dude. +1000000

    This is exactly how i feel. What is there to be butt hurt about? We already suk c@ck! haha

  185. Yikes. I’m a gonna have to pre-game before the Md game :)

  186. I won’t say another word about it. We’ll see in the end. Going to be a lot of stunned people crying foul when this ends. I promise you.

  187. avatar
    canezilla says:

    NCAA IS THE MAFIA(THEY MAKE THERE OWN LAWS)

  188. Finally read that whole thing, and JSQ, while I am not saying you don’t have a point in terms of the investigation and due process, I think you are going to be crying your eyes out girl. These are very far reaching accusations, and we all know the phrase, where there is smoke there is fire. Is everything true, probably not, but it doesn’t have to be. Also, Paul Dee being on that committee and having to recuse himself is a big dildo going right up our backside.

    At this time, based on the information at hand, this is the only saving grace:

    Seems like he liked to pay cash a lot. That allows for a lot of he said, he said, stuff.

    And WTF are players doing talking about this. Just say, “no comment”. Then the onus to prove something is on the other guy. This line from Goodfellas comes to mind “Never rat on your friends and always keep your mouth shut.”

  189. I saw we got another recruit. We are going to have a HUGE signing class. Definite top 5 and with some good results this year…#1!

  190. “This is exactly how i feel. What is there to be butt hurt about? We already suk c@ck! haha”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Truer words have never been spoken.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  191. JSQ says:
    August 16, 2011 at 7:25 PM

    P.S., Bennie, if you ever get arrested, don’t say a motherf@cking thing except “I want an attorney.”

    Worried about you . . .

    ————————————–

    I don’t put myself in those positions but I was brought up in a nasty part of Tallahassee where it’s common practice when being approached by law enforcement to zip the lips.

  192. Lol, I hope you guys never get sued.

    People LIE.

  193. Also, to me seems like Haith and the basketball team actually could have more of a problem, as the coaches seemed much more involved in that case (the accused football coaches just tried to show off for some recruits which is no biggie)

    Personally, I like Canez trying to bring the humor to this. And to think Hill, Hurtt, Fluzzi and Stoutland not only sucked at coaching, but apparently just suck at life too.

  194. bg1906
    August 16, 2011 at 7:29 PM
    I won’t say another word about it. We’ll see in the end. Going to be a lot of stunned people crying foul when this ends. I promise you.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Insert NCAA in place of J12.

    This sounds exactly like your JH cries!!

    One crisis at a time.

    You can’t keep your mouth shut dawg !!! LOL

    Neither can I LOL

    Let it out my man.

    :)

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  195. How is this any different than what Luke was doing back in the day?
    How can they prove it?
    Is this Shapiro guy related to the university?
    Are any of the coaches still with us? (I know not in football but maybe those basketball coaches are).

    We have a new AD/new coaches and have been cooperating so this is just the Media Machine loving to get Miamis name in the headlines.

    JMO

  196. Shwarm LOL

    Canes can’t even get cheating right!

    Note to all involved. You are supposed to actually WIN when you cheat.

    SMFH

    Cacker and Dent. The gifts that keep on giving…

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  197. C1, like really brah. WTf can they do? Give us a bowl ban, some schollies? take away our many bowl losses.

    I could really careless. Maybe we need a bowl ban to keep from getting our arses handed to us.

    I’m still stoked about Merryland and focused on this season.

    None ofthese “allegations” can prevent UM from receiving any type of ship this year. It can only POTENTIALLY take it away, and that aint likely.

    It’s really nothing to be worried about.

  198. You know who I feel bad for, the current recruits. Every f’n site is going to be hounding these kids for comment.

    And you know what, after some further thought, I think its really important we think about the source of this story, Yahoo Sports. They have taken on the role of crusader in college football, but to date, haven’t managed to do much other then make noise that plays to people’s emotions. And I think that’s what they are really about in this case too. They know a big state school can flex its muscle. But the U, easy target to bully, and as we all know, the U draws eyeballs. This isn’t SI or HBO Sports.

  199. Funny how people went from”this guys is a crook, in jail and has ZERO credibility to OMFG WE ARE SOOO DEAD!!!

    What happened here? We are still dealing with the same dude, No?

    Simmer.

    Smells like fish taco night up in here.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  200. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    I can’t imagine the status of this blog if Jacory was actually one of the culprits of Shapiro’s scheme.

    Canez1 and Cav would be out for blood like Rambo.

  201. Lol.

    Bg, go have a bonecrusher love.

    I’m not taking this lightly and I bet a lot of it is true. But I don’t think this clown can prove a motherf@cking thing we can’t handle.

    Again, wait until tomorrow. The pay sites and ‘Canes hater writers aren’t going to tell you the same stuff ‘Canes will. I could give a eff about hits at this point.

    This is for y’alls health.

  202. Shaking with laughter, Dayton!

  203. Manny Navarro
    Marcus Forston, Dyron Dye also on Shapiro list. #UM

    Dan LeBatard Show
    Can’t believe all those losses UM is going to have to vacate

    Manny Navarro
    Current #Canes on Shapiro list: Benjamin, Ray Ray, Jacory, Ojomo, Vernon, Telemaque, Spence, Robinson, Nicolas, Aldarius

  204. LMAO.

    OF COURSE HE PUT THEM ON HIS LIST!

  205. If Six is reading, his boy Gonella might also be able to quickly shed some light in regards to some of the more recent allegations…

  206. Champ they are going to bytch slap us with 7-6 seasons and weak ass play from players that take years off.

    OOOOOOOOOOOOOOH. Scurred.

    King Kong ain’t got Shyte on me!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNDQD0gkAU

    We’re from Dade county Bish.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  207. Canez1, before you get all fish taco on us, remember the gender of the coolest cucumber on the blog.

    Recognize.

    Otherwise, I’m going to take Calvin’s advice and drag you down here by that forked tongue and put you to work.

  208. Shwarma.

    Your comment about Yahoo is wrong. Yahoo uncovered the Reggie Bush and that ended bad. Matter fact in every case they’ve blown the whistle its either ended badly or is still under investigation.

  209. Gonnella had his own set of issues which is part of the reason he’s not here. He was effective but Randy didn’t want what he brought to the table.

  210. BG is burning all of his U swag right now!

    Hats in the bin.

    Curlin up in the shower.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PN0XRkSyhwM

    http://threadbombing.com/data/media/49/dawson_crying.gif

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  211. JSQ
    August 16, 2011 at 7:52 PM
    Canez1, before you get all fish taco on us, remember the gender of the coolest cucumber on the blog.

    Recognize.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Respect.

    ;)

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  212. I’ll be the but of the joke. That’s ok by me. I’m secure with ME. I’m just surprised at how cavalier so many of you are with this.

  213. schadjoe Joe Schad
    RT @ralphDrussoAP: And when I say flattened, I mean something that will make what happened to USC look like a slap on the wrist.

  214. BillisKing Bill King
    If all true I dont know if there will be another death penalty, but how about scorched earth?

  215. They are already calling it the largest scandal in NCAA HISTORY! Keep on just blowing it off guys. I’ll be chicken little. But I see the writing on the wall.

  216. bg, didn’t realize they were the first on Bush, but to me Oregon and BCS are their more recent exposes, and I see those both ending up to be much ado about nothing.

  217. Shwarma.

    If it was something truly not to worry about I ‘d say this is BS. This is MAJOR! You can kid yourself if you want and think its not, but the REST OF THE WORLD knows this is REALLY BAD, BAD, BAD.

  218. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    LMAO!!!!!!!!!

    Is Jacory seriously on the list? This must be a big joke.

  219. bg, if true and able to be proved you are right (and I am not saying their isn’t something to worry about), but still we don’t know what can actually be substantiated. I am not being cavalier as I think some sanctions are certainly on their way, I just am not ready to look up for the skying falling on my head quite yet.

    And its media’s job these days to scream about anything that will get them attention. Look at what actually makes the news today. I am not saying that media don’t have merit, but they are sensationalistic at best at times.

  220. Shwarma.

    This will be much worse than just SOME SANCTIONS. This is so bad and it almost doesn’t matter what he can PROVE. Players are backing this guy up on things. I think a tell tale sign will be if we pull a UNC and sit players. If any of those guys on the list sit, then we have our answer that the university is concerned about their eligibility and if that’s the case we got issues.

  221. bg, seriously underage drinking, that has to be a real joke…listen I am not telling you this isn’t bad, but you are running around with your hair on fire. All I am saying is put on the lifejacket and be on standby…

  222. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    In the short term, the only thing I’m worried about is the distraction it may cause, if it lingers deep into the season. This core group of guys have shown they don’t handle distractions very well.

  223. bg, right about those players, but here is what is said in the article:

    Among the specific incidents, Shapiro or other sources say Hurtt, Hill, Stoutland, Pannunzio and Allen all delivered top-tier recruits to Shapiro’s home or luxury suite so the booster could make recruiting pitches to them. Among the players who were ushered to Shapiro while they were still in high school: Eventual Miami commitments Ray-Ray Armstrong, Dyron Dye and Olivier Vernon (prompted by Hurtt); eventual Florida commitments Andre Debose (Hurtt) and Matt Patchan (prompted by Stoutland and Pannunzio); eventual Georgia commitment Orson Charles (Pannunzio); and eventual Central Florida commitment Jeffrey Godfrey (Allen).

    Supposedly they went to a suite or house, and heard a guy say, come to UM. While they have sordid details about that, all they said is they spoke to the guy

  224. DaytonCane
    August 16, 2011 at 8:08 PM
    LMAO!!!!!!!!!

    Is Jacory seriously on the list? This must be a big joke.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    This was the only refund Nevin was able to get back.

    Lemonlaw

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  225. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    I wonder if any of the walk-ons are on the list?

    One things for sure, the guy who dresses up as the Ibis on gameday is definitely on it.

  226. meant sordid details about everything else…

  227. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    LMAO@C1..LOL

  228. Shwarma.

    Please don’t be THAT GUY. I don’t care about stuff like that and know its NO BIG DEAL. I underage drank, smoked and did a bunch of other stuff. My point is its on CAMERA and the put that picture there for a REASON. It WILL get criticized BELIEVE ME.

    C’mon man, this is not me running around with my HAIR on fire. Its me trying to get you guys to understand this is much more serious than you are believing right now. I’m stunned you guys are passing it off so easily.

  229. Sometimes it takes being bitten in the ass for people to understand BG.

    Unless we’ve all become insane rooting for a team that has been such complete and utter shit as of late that it’s not going to hurt any worse than it has since 2005.

  230. My boy Rashad knows good comedy LOL

    “Unless we’ve all become insane rooting for a team that has been such complete and utter shit as of late that it’s not going to hurt any worse than it has since 2005.”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
    Bennie this is EXACTLY why.

    #Numbnuts

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  231. It’s more or less just going to be a damper on the future..

    Which will suck, because now it seems the team is under the proper guidance..

  232. Note to self.

    Cross “Blandolph keeping the joint clean” off the excuse list.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  233. Bennie.

    NOW that I can see as a proper response.

  234. C1.

    That too!

  235. bg, real talk, when you get emotional or try so hard to prove your point you don’t listen (or should I say read). What about this statement says I don’t have concern:

    ” All I am saying is put on the lifejacket and be on standby…”

    That means is their something to worry about yes. But is it a proven reason to jump off the proverbial boat, abandon ship, nope, not yet

    This thing might be going down in flames. I am not saying you are wrong. But the sanctions will NOT be handed down TONIGHT. And there will be an extensive investigation into all of this and some will be proven and some will not. Where this ends up, I don’t know. Will it be good for us no matter what the decision? Absolutely not. Could we be completely f’ed? Absolutely. But this is only the first shot in what now will be a war. We took it right to the gut, we are bleeding out, but I am not ready to say we are DOA quite yet.

  236. And I wasn’t being THAT GUY about the drinking, it was a more a joke that when we are talking about paid ho’s and abortion, you started talking about underage drinking that’s all

  237. Bennie,

    No doubt.

    Just silly to flip out before ANYTHING has been written in stone or proven.

    “100 hours of Jailhouse interviews” doesn’t exactly ring of “absolute truth”.

    It is what it is and will all come out in the end.

    One thing I know for sure is the bonecrushers and the season start in 3 weeks with or without all this garbage.

    I am not cancelling Christmas just yet.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  238. Wow, players who went to other schools, ushered in by coaches that were fired, all according to the word of a convicted felon.

    http://www.airtightcase.com

  239. We are not getting the death penalty because Bobby Drama had a pina colada with a booster.

  240. Bennie, spot on my dude. Like i said before, what can they possibly do to hurt Canes fans any more than the far past and the recent past?

    Canes been through it all. nothing new. We will live.

    ok, its serious. but were not even good. don’t know if we will be good. isah just doesn’t bother me.

    Especially not worse than leaving a wet and cold rainy Lane stadium after getting curbstomped…..; /

  241. Lemon law.

    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  242. HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA

  243. Shwarma.

    Bro. I say this with the utmost respect homie. I’m a guy, I don’t get EMOTIONAL homie. So when you criticize me and believe me I can take that, do so by respecting me first dawg. I’m not coming at you sideways because my days of doing that are over, but say what you got to say with at the little condescending statements because really I’m not that guy. Again I say that with the utmost respect to you and with the utmost respect to our friendship because I do consider you FRIEND. But just talk to me straight homie and not with the little side comments.

    And yeah I can be bull headed sometimes, I’m a Taurus. And believe me I’m NOT running around with my head cut off. Disappointed for the team…YES, I’m only a fan man! So I have things in proper perspective. Believe me. I’m just surprised that more of you don’t see the seriousness of it.

  244. I just served the last brief to opposing counsel.

    Time to use this degree to calm you all down.

    Bg, have some jello shots.

    And a hug.

    It’s going to be okay.

  245. Drinking, Ho’s and abortions all go hand in hand.

    Who doesn’t know that?

    #lifelessons

    BG LOL!!

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  246. Bg, I was more concerned about this last year.

    Please call some people who will tell you what’s up. You are welcome to call me.

  247. Canez1
    August 16, 2011 at 8:28 PM

    Note to self.

    Cross “Blandolph keeping the joint clean” off the excuse list.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!
    ————

    Like i said when someone said Randy should got to uNC to “clean up” the program.

    Randy didn’t clean up ish here!!! Randy was connected in a city he’s been in his entire life.

    Randy just had the grapevine to keep things on the hush. You think he could do that outside of Miami?

    I never once thought Randy ran a clean ship. I just though he was well connected in Miami.

  248. None of those bishes got an abortion.

    Just ask Big Vern.

    Holla!

  249. Got to run. I’ll holla later. Y’all be EZ. 1 Love

  250. Bishes were asking for seconds and laying upside down for hours after trying to get that 1st round draft pick baby growing.

  251. “And yeah I can be bull headed sometimes, I’m a Taurus.”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Now THIS is the first “fact I have seen on here all day.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSuvOVH0aSQ

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  252. avatar
    SailorCane says:

    It’s all crazy news right now and in our face

    By the weekend it will all settle down

    Gotta admit I re-read the article and you know, that’s some playboy fantasy shyte, pretty outrageous statements with a few photos tossed in for added flavor

    Schwarm, you got it, in my biz if you dont want to have something traced you pay the shyte in cash, toss the receipt and move on, sheeparo being a ponzi boy most likely didnt keep the best of records

    Looks like he put together a family album of his dealings with the football program

    little bytch gotta throw loads of cash around so he can say he has friends, well little nevie here’s some KY and get used to conversations with your ankles

  253. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    Theres the long list of players to the right..

  254. Was Truth on the list?

  255. This is standard for the level of donorship Midget McLiarson was at:

    “He twice led the team onto the field and once flew to a road game on the team charter.”

  256. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Canez1

    August 16, 2011 at 8:42 PM

    “And yeah I can be bull headed sometimes, I’m a Taurus.”
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Now THIS is the first “fact I have seen on here all day.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSuvOVH0aSQ

    GO CANEZ!!!!!
    ———————————–

    hahahahaha. I remember that.

    I’M NEVIN SHAPIRO BI*CH!!!! I WILL KILL YO WHOLE MUTH#$%^*&@ SCHOOL WIT FIYA!!!!!

  257. Solidifying evidence that Randy was well connected and got to keep things on the Hush hush. ramon Buch saying

    ” I play for Um. You can’t touch me. I’ll get off”

  258. bg, no disrespect at all man. To me my response was simply explaining my logic. MY proper perspective. No sarcasm. No condescension. Just using examples, saying what I thought. Now maybe I don’t realize it comes across one way, or maybe its something you misinterpret, but either way disrespect was certainly not part of that.

    And I make that point first because, just like I think I came across one way, and you another, I think that shoe applies to the other foot here too. You think you are just stating your case telling us what we need to hear, and to me, it sounds (reads) emotional. Behind this keyboard you often don’t know the other person’s intent. JSQ is telling you to have a shot and a hug. So I am not just making this up. So all you can do is use your comprehension skills and interpret.

    Just a simple misunderstanding, and trust me, we can both agree, this ain’t good!

  259. Now this I can get down with. Spot on by the wee one.

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    To Shapiro, the results of Reed’s efforts were manifesting themselves on the field. A once-powerful program was a competitive disgrace.

    “So I tried to kick his ass,” said Shapiro, who despite standing just 5-foot-5 was always willing to fight. “I was screaming at him, calling him a sissy over and over, at least five times. I shouted, ‘these guys are a bunch of (expletives) playing for a real (expletive) (head coach Randy Shannon) and, by the way, you’re a (expletive) too.’

    “I had to be held back from hitting him. I wanted to punch him in the face.”

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  260. Splarfy.

    Hell to the naw. LMAO!

  261. I just assumed he was in charge of the prostitutes……..

  262. Sounds like Sailor had a talk with KL.

    Where is Mrs. Bg?!?!

  263. avatar
    canezilla says:

    SHHHHHHHHHHHHIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT I JUST FOUND VIDEO RELEASED OF THE YACHT AND WHAT WENT ON.. YOU GUYS WONT LIKE THIS!!!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8T095mFdW8

  264. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    To all the players at Miami, Chris Tucker would like to offer a bit of advice.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQ9FWzhCBIY

  265. Wow, I wonder what the audience is going to ask Billy, Steve, and DBJ about on Thursday ????

  266. C1 i aint gone lie brah. That Shapiro dude is exactly how i pictured you would look in real life.

    I mean to the muthafudgin Tee mayne. hahahaha shades, gel, and all.

  267. Personally, if I would were to be on a booster’s yacht, this would be my choice:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hd5trM5DvTQ

  268. Canezilla, I thought this was the yacht man????

    ———-

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8F3UE9qFsg&ob=av3n

  269. Uchamps, I can see what you are talking about, instead just imagine half a foot taller but still a d-bag…

  270. Damn shwarma!!!! you beat me to it!!!! you lucky muddasukkkaaa!!

  271. Bottom line here is connecting the dirty deeds with coaches knowing of said deeds.

    Not that simple.

    Plus all the coaches involved are gone.

    Worst case scenario some ships are taken away. No biggie.

    Cash spent and drunken chit chat from butt hurt Napoleon is not going to get it done here given the source.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  272. Uchamps
    August 16, 2011 at 8:59 PM
    C1 i aint gone lie brah. That Shapiro dude is exactly how i pictured you would look in real life.

    I mean to the muthafudgin Tee mayne. hahahaha shades, gel, and all.
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    HAHA Lil fag wishes he were me.

    Shwarm I see what u did up there biatch!

    LOL

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  273. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    2001 title better not be taken away. People will die if that happens.

  274. I am a little more pessimistic than that Canez, but to me the key will be the financial records. They go on and on about him providing pages upon pages, but going to a club and spending money, and also having a picture with a player, that is not a crime. Nothing from the financial records shown in the Yahoo story mean a thing. That is of course…

    Unless the receipt says – Mansion – Magnum of appletini’s for Jacory Harris – then he has us by the balls

    Yes thet can interview people to corroborate, but still he said, he said. Again, all involved really need to go by this “Never rat on your friends, and always keep your mouth shut.”

  275. Dayton, why will people be heartbroken? Just will match the one we had taken away the year after…

  276. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    T. Moss is a snitch!!!! haha

  277. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    shwarma5

    August 16, 2011 at 9:10 PM

    Dayton, why will people be heartbroken? Just will match the one we had taken away the year after…
    ————————–

    Low blow, shwarm

    :(

  278. This is some “family” setting..

    One of Miami’s own telling one the program..

    Outstanding.

  279. avatar
    canezilla says:

    ANYBODY EVER WATCH FIRST 48..THE DETECTIVES 90% OF THE TIME DONT HAVE ENOUGH PROOF UNTIL THE SUSPECT CONFESSES..’KEEP YOUR FUKING MOUTH SHUT’

  280. Shwarm like you said, receipts don’t prove a thing.

    Pictures can be taken at anytime, so they do nothing to help the cause.

    These losers have been thinking of ways to piece the garbage together for a year now so it is going to look convincing at first until someone takes a year ripping the so called evidence apart.

    The guy obviously knows his way around right and wrong in the booster business and is just playing it up and TRYING to connect dots.

    Those receipts and pics show absolutely nothing and it will be extremely tough correlating them.

    Getting coaches to admit anything. Ya good luck with that. Unless there is absolute proof against them.

    Meh it is what it is.

    A scorned sac rider looking for attention because his life is over otherwise and mad because his “paid for” friends used his narrow ass.

    I am in no way naive about what goes on in sports. I have seen things first hand and have no doubt about what goes on.

    I just think at the end of the day things are never as bad as they seem at first glance.

    Plus there is nothing anyone can do about it so no sense in worrying about it.

    It is what it is.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  281. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    “Plus there is nothing anyone can do about it so no sense in worrying about it.”

    ^^THIS!!

  282. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Meh it is what it is.

    A scorned sac rider looking for attention because his life is over otherwise and mad because his “paid for” friends used his narrow ass.

    >>>>>>>>>

    There it is…lol

  283. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    It was me and some other players with my incoming (class). I’m not going to say the names but you can probably figure them out yourself,” Moss told Yahoo! Sports. “When I was getting there my freshman year, it was me and a couple more players. It was me and a few more of the guys in my incoming class that he kind of showed some love to.”
    Courtesy-wplg.com
    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    Turn on your school at the drop of a hat?? Damn T. Moss. smh

  284. Was hoping to stop taking my Oxy tonight that was prescribed after my surgery. I think I’m going to need a couple more nights after reading that article.

    I’m going to go back and read it tomorrow and hopefully it won’t be as bad 2 nd time around.

  285. Think we need to have Q. Hill pay him a visit…..

  286. lol, this shat is funny as hell, right now, in the words of one of the coaches who helped to rebuild & restors the legacy:
    “Allegations are allegations, sanctions are sanctions! You know what it is joe, just like anything, you can’t look back you gotta keep moving forward. Boosters are boosters”

  287. avatar
    KLCaneFan says:

    Calvin… LMAO!!!!!!

  288. Tht’s just like somebody accussing someone of stealing, if you ain’t got pictures, forget about it, and if you got pictures, you better have video, cause pictures, i’mma break that down too. When you got that troll shalala standing there like she just read the numbers and found out she had the winning lotto ticket, it’s all good. This is UM not the f.b.i. they’re not responsible for where people get there money from. If they went and confiscated all the dope and money laudering booster donatiosn they have received since the 80′s, you might have one building left on campus and they’ll be lifting weights outside.

    Hell the damyum near the whole city has been built on dope money, nothing new, what’s a lil ponzi scheme gone do. This guy though is asking to be silenced, he messing with alot of people’s future money!

  289. It’s guys like nevin and whoever the hell that guy who made the 30 for 30 movie, you can’t let guys like that hover around the program to long, next thing you, they’ll want to borrow Canez1 helmet and than run out the smoke. After that, they’ll start trying t osubmit plays on offense, “run my play, run my play”. shannon iced his azz out and didn’t give a damyum how much money this guy had, in real DADE County fashion, shannon was thinking, for real, i’ll take yo money if i wasn’t the headcoach.

    Than to call this guy lil luke, lol, you talking bout boosting somebody head up. Gotta give it to em, he maxed out his hustle, money got to good to em.

  290. Apparently this booster didn’t get an “Uphold the Legacy” t-shirt, otherwise he would know to keep his mouF shut. But oh well, everytime something happens at Miami, it’s always reported as the biggest news, they’ve been trying to get rid of this football program for years now, hell, if the nc2a wants to get nasty and let’s say they do find a way to ban the football program at UM, if they thought they were mad when UM came out of know where and started dominating college football, to really piss em off, everybody on the team should just transfer to F.i.u. and dominate college football from that platform, we got a back-up plan. Just look into the cristo-ball, and see the future!

  291. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Well I dont think Ty Moss will be getting any Christmas cards from his former teammates anymore.

    So much for loyalty.

  292. Ty Moss is another strong candidate for shanking.

  293. He’s the dude that probably needed the prostitute to get laid.

  294. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    The curse of Lebron is real!!

    Seriously tho, like C1 said, we can’t control it, so lets see how it plays out. But it is very disappointing to see so much negative press towards UM.

  295. Do have to say the amount of alleged paid pu$$y is surprising…what is the world coming to for athletes

  296. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    SailorCane
    August 16, 2011 at 6:08 PM
    BTW

    Before you get to comfortable about this shapiro shyte, you may want to read this

    BryanDFischer Bryan Fischer
    RT @DanWetzel: Nevin Shapiro details his 8-year run of violations at Miami to Yahoo! Sports http://t.co/gdXtcsx

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Well, first thing, this image of him and K-II is TOTAL PHOTOSHOP…

    But the rest of it is, suspicious. I’m not sure what procedures schools have in place for screening boosters. Probably not many, just like any other non-profit organization that accepts donations and gifts.

    The only thing it sounds like is that he was working HARD at being a football groupie, like overtime hard.

    If T. Moss said he accepted money from him, that spells trouble. But the rest is total speculation, his word or theirs.

    Should be interesting but really not upsetting. The sky is not falling….

  297. I was forced to dig out a sample of KY home grown I was given:

    http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/Report-Former-Miami-booster-Nevin-Shapiro-gave-impermissible-benefits-to-Miami-athletes-081611

    Many current Miami players were also named by Shapiro as receiving benefits, Yahoo! Sports reported, including quarterback Jacory Harris, Ray Ray Armstrong, Travis Benjamin, Sean Spence, Marcus Forston, Vaughn Telemaque, Dyron Dye, Aldarius Johnson and Olivier Vernon. Former Miami quarterback Robert Marve, now at Purdue, was also named by Shapiro, Yahoo! Sports said

  298. First of all Kellen Winslow CAME FROM MONEY. I’m pretty sure he didn’t need Shapiro to get into that club.

    Second of all… FUCK TYRONE MOSS.

    I’m burning my T-Moss Jersey tomorrow morning. (Yes I have one.. got it for $15 at a Nike Outlet in Orlando)

  299. http://l.yimg.com/a/p/sp/tools/med/2011/08/ipt/1313376801.jpg

    —————–

    That photo looks SO fake to me.

  300. And as for the list of current players…. it’s just a list of our 12 best and well-known players. If any non-Miami fan was to list off 12 players I’m pretty sure those would be the 12 they’d say.

  301. Shwarma. Thanks for taking that in the proper spirit. No harm , no foul bro. 1 Love

  302. Delray I have an address to send the extra Oxys to my man.

    Solid gold right there!!

    T Moss looks like he smells. You know that one dude you played with that never washed his uni and his locker was always off on its own for good reason.

    Don’t even lie.

    Reggie Bush has to give up his Heisman. T moss has to give up his peach bowl champ Tshirt.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  303. Andre DeBose is also listed. Don’t you think he would’ve picked UM if he was getting money from Shapiro???? Or do the Gators boosters pay more?

  304. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    This I found interesting from the Yahoo story…

    “I became a booster in late 2001, and by early 2002, I was giving kids gifts. From the start, I wasn’t really challenged. And once I got going, it just got bigger and bigger. I just did what I wanted and didn’t pay much mind toward the potential repercussions.”

    In 15 prison interviews with Yahoo! Sports and hundreds of telephone and email interactions, Shapiro laid out a multitude of reasons for blowing the whistle on his illicit booster activity. Chief is his feeling that after spending eight years forging what he thought were legitimate friendships with players, he was abandoned by many of the same Miami athletes he treated so well. He told Yahoo! Sports that following his incarceration, he asked multiple players for financial help – either with bail money, or assistance to individuals close to the booster. Shapiro admitted some of those inquiries included angry letters and phone calls to players whom he provided benefits.

    “Some of those players – a lot of those players – we used to say we were a family,” Shapiro said. “Well, who do you go to for help when you need it? You go to your family. Why the hell wouldn’t I go to them?”

    Now feeling outcast, the booster said his goal is to rip away the façade of ‘The U’, and reveal an ugly truth about one of the country’s most celebrated college football programs.

    “Yeah, I’m guilty,” said Shapiro, whose plea to counts of securities fraud, conspiracy to commit securities fraud and money laundering resulted in a 20-year federal prison sentence. Shapiro also has one prior conviction on his record – an assault case from 1995 in which he pled guilty to punching a nightclub owner. Shapiro was sentenced to 18 months probation in that case.

    “I’ve pled guilty to my crime,” the booster said. “I understand the public perception of me and that’s going to be what it’s going to be. My name has been dragged through the mud as much as it could be. But remember, when Jose Canseco told the truth about the steroid problems in baseball, he was considered a dirty rat. Everyone said he was bitter, he was out of baseball, he’s out of money, he was this and that. But he changed the face of the game. I don’t care if I change the face of the game. But I’m telling the truth about what happened at Miami. It’s the truth. And you tell me, why should the University of Miami be exempt from the truth?”

    Now, almost a decade after he officially became a University of Miami booster, Shapiro’s truth could potentially dismantle a program he says he has loved for much of his life. After initially threatening to write a tell-all book in August of 2010, Shapiro shelved the project and began cooperating with a Yahoo! Sports investigation in December. Four months later, in March, he said he opened a line of communication with NCAA investigators and began turning over materials to corroborate his claims.

    “It’s all true,” said one of Shapiro’s ex-girlfriends, who asked to remain anonymous out of fear of reprisals from former Miami players. “He took care of them. What does that mean? It has a lot of meanings. He took care of them by giving cash to make sure they had stuff. He took care of them whenever they wanted to go party. He took care of them by getting them laid. He took care of them if they needed a place to stay. Whatever they needed, at that moment they needed it, Nevin would provide it. Whether it was sex, money, meals, a new TV, if their mother needed something, if they needed a new ring or some jewelry – whatever they needed, Nevin would provide it.”

    And Shapiro’s justification for his actions? He said it was simple.

    “I did it because I could,” he said. “And because nobody stepped in to stop me.”

  305. If the team gets disbanded, I’m going back to rooting for Michigan.
    Gonna dust off that good ol’ scully I had back in like 5th grade, and make that thang work…..

  306. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    So the next time we hear about an alum snitching on his alma mater about a dude involved in a major Ponzi scheme giving the players mass benefits, can we say that school got Mossed?

    Not to take anything away from Randy Moss.

  307. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Is the vagina hour over yet?

    Are our frilly knickers put away?

    Pretty sure we’re still playing a football game in a little over 2 weeks.

  308. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    I just read the whole Yahoo story.

    BG, I can see why you and the others are saying this could be very bad. The guy was all over the place and so he claims, throwing out money like it was water. Interesting that he says nothing really started until 2002 or 2003 really. l

    but between the SOL, jail-house claims, and apparent cash, as well as the really flimsy photo evidence, I’m not sure there’s much to go on other than restaurant owners, neighbors and strippers…..

    Does anyone know exactly how the NCAA found evidence and proof against USC??

  309. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Hurri
    August 16, 2011 at 10:27 PM
    If the team gets disbanded, I’m going back to rooting for Michigan.
    Gonna dust off that good ol’ scully I had back in like 5th grade, and make that thang work…..

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>

    lol

  310. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    DaytonCane
    August 16, 2011 at 10:29 PM
    So the next time we hear about an alum snitching on his alma mater about a dude involved in a major Ponzi scheme giving the players mass benefits, can we say that school got Mossed?

    Not to take anything away from Randy Moss.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    T Mossed…..lol

  311. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    What’s funny about all those shots is that the players always look like, “Who the fuk is this little dude?”

  312. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    T. Moss and most of the Coker kids never really gave a damn about the U. They just wanted to get to the NFL and the cash, so the stage was definitely set for a sleazeball like that to step in. Coker was not going to police anyone, esp. not a booster giving up the bucks.

  313. Trust me, those dudes didn’t need to pay for it, Shwarma.

    You went away fror the damn weekend for your sister’s wedding and you’d find out the damn girls’ swim team was up there getting down with your man.

    You know, hypothetically.

  314. The NCAA found evidence because the guy who was giving the Bush Family money was recording phone calls between him and Reggie’s stepfather.

  315. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    To me, examinigna situation like this closely for the first time, it seems like the problem starts with the NCAA rules for boosters and admin. How in the hell is a school going to police someone who’s giving them thousands of dollars at a clip??

    After that it’s the players and the booster interaction, which looks like a potential cesspool. “Come out and meet the players, everyone, and the more you spend the more time you get to spend with them.”

    I think the U’s going to dodge the big bullets on this one but there are way too many ways for shyt like this to happen.

    I can only imagine how it is in towns like Gainesville and Baton Rouge and Knoxville. haha

  316. So back to REAL football talk for a sec….

    It seems Cookie will be suspended at least one game for his incident this off-season. Do you guys think we’ll move Futch outside for the Maryland game or is M-Rob getting the nod?

  317. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Ronny
    August 16, 2011 at 10:43 PM
    The NCAA found evidence because the guy who was giving the Bush Family money was recording phone calls between him and Reggie’s stepfather.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Okaaaayyyy, now we’re getting somewhere. Yeah, I think we’ll dodge this one but the hurricane warning needs to sound off.

    But really, the NCAA needs to develop a stiffer, clearer protocol for Boosters period. The way it is it’s almost too easy for rule-breaking, esp. when cash is aplenty and you’re dealing with college kids. You’re asking for trouble.

  318. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Thangs been heated while i was gettin my night shift nap out…Well I like bg think our arses are TOAST!!!! Nc2a hates us more than any other skool… but like C1 says why worry can’t do nothin bout it…with the coaches that were named including lo-cutt we now know why they bailed at the 1st opportunity…lol…Ms Clark imma trust ur insight and inside info but it don’t look good….exp with the skool prez hangin wit tha dude…

  319. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Ronny
    August 16, 2011 at 10:46 PM
    So back to REAL football talk for a sec….

    It seems Cookie will be suspended at least one game for his incident this off-season. Do you guys think we’ll move Futch outside for the Maryland game or is M-Rob getting the nod?

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    I’d love to see M-Rob outside but I think he’s 3-4 only. He could do both though, which is what he really should be doing cause he’ll be a LB in the NFL anyway.

    Futch seems to be working hard at the MLB but he should do outside work as well.

    Who else is there? Cain……I’m out of the loop..

  320. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Now lookin back on it, I can see why the university wanted nothin to do wit the espn 30-30 doc…maybe they saw this comin down the pike??? And in the movie the then HNIC holding the money pott?? Don’t look good!!!

  321. The article is done.

    Everything is broken down. What involves the University is not a NCAA violation.

    What could be an NCAA violation either lacks evidence and/or does not involve the University.

    Nash, if that was an NCAA violation than so was the entire Jimmy Johnson event I attended last year between the Pro Bowl and Super Bowl.

    Boosters get tax write-offs for donations and hosting events.

    Give the University some credit.

    Completely ridiculous.

  322. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Nashvillecane
    August 16, 2011 at 10:50 PM
    Thangs been heated while i was gettin my night shift nap out…Well I like bg think our arses are TOAST!!!! Nc2a hates us more than any other skool… but like C1 says why worry can’t do nothin bout it…with the coaches that were named including lo-cutt we now know why they bailed at the 1st opportunity…lol…Ms Clark imma trust ur insight and inside info but it don’t look good….exp with the skool prez hangin wit tha dude…

    >>>>>>>>>

    Nash, what’s she supposed to do to the man when he has a $50K check in his hand?? Give him the Heisman??

    Bottom line is he doesn’t have much proof, smoking guns. It all depends on what players say and since this isn’t a criminal or civil suit, everyone should just STFU.

    Let T Moss cost us a few ships or a bowl game or whatever and take it as a really, really close call.

    Coker was clearly useless in every regard except getting kids to study hall.

    RS was too aloof and absent to even know or pay real attention.

    Not a good combo…..not even adding Heavy Dee to the equation.

  323. Out come the conspiracy-theorists, to bed goes the JSQ.

    Stick to facts, guys, and don’t let some two-bit-hack “journalist” who confuses his homophones (check the T Moss quote for the to/too error) elicit such a response out of you.

    Y’all are better than that.

  324. avatar
    The Truth says:

    Hey…why don’t you get F@ck yourself and leave my name out of your mouth.

    Thanks.

    Have a GREAT night!

    Go Canes!

  325. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ
    August 16, 2011 at 10:41 PM
    Trust me, those dudes didn’t need to pay for it, Shwarma.

    You went away fror the damn weekend for your sister’s wedding and you’d find out the damn girls’ swim team was up there getting down with your man.

    You know, hypothetically.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    That’s what one would think/expect, the first sentence, hypothetically.

  326. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    And if it’s true bout haith…how can u have a booster hooking up ur bball team but not gettin any top tallent??? Lol…now that some funny ish…not as funny as somebody sayin we gotta vacate 5-6-7 win seasons…some already said seem like we been on probation already…lol….and the maybe T moss is hot mad coz Coker said he wasn’t playin any more fat running backs and he got mad…lol…On the players listed now on the team some of the muggs need to give they money back and y’all know the ones I’m talkin bout lol…

  327. The fact that J-Futch played OLB for the past 3 years makes me believe he’d have the best shot to start there vs Maryland. Cain is listed as 3rd string @ MLB and the fact that we haven’t heard ANYTHING about him in fall practice isn’t a good sign.

  328. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    The Truth
    August 16, 2011 at 10:59 PM
    Hey…why don’t you get F@ck yourself and leave my name out of your mouth.

    Thanks.

    Have a GREAT night!

    Go Canes!
    -

    —- who pissed dude off…must have missed his name in a post…lol…I can prob guess who it was tho…lol

  329. JSQ
    August 16, 2011 at 9:51 PM

    He’s the dude that probably needed the prostitute to get laid.

    ——————

    hahahahahaha had me rolling because it’s most likely true!!! He’s a tad more troubled than i thought.

    Damn, thats the only thing im upset with regarding this whole scandal fiasco.

    UM got T mossed something fierce.

    He was just like this when the NCAA came knocking

    video at the 50 second mark guys

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5vbitx12s0

  330. Nashvillecane says:
    August 16, 2011 at 11:02 PM
    And if it’s true bout haith…how can u have a booster hooking up ur bball team but not gettin any top tallent??? Lol…now that some funny ish…not as funny as somebody sayin we gotta vacate 5-6-7 win seasons…some already said seem like we been on probation already…lol….and the maybe T moss is hot mad coz Coker said he wasn’t playin any more fat running backs and he got mad…lol…On the players listed now on the team some of the muggs need to give they money back and y’all know the ones I’m talkin bout lol…
    _________________

    hahahaha.

  331. Ok, more like the 1:10 mark hahaha

  332. All of the implicated are on the right. There are sound bits of Shapiro for each player.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/investigations/news;_ylt=AsXrFLNuYgHh0fQneKRqNx1RMuB_?slug=ys-travis_benjamin_allegations

  333. TOTALLY OFF-TOPIC…

    Anyone think Jim Thome was jucing? We were having this argument @ work today. I think he was but I also think all of the Steroid guys SHOULD get into the Hall.

  334. Whatever happens, who cares, the guys will still have to play the same schedule, it’s not like they’re going to suspend the season or something. This is Miami, people do it big down here, nevin had his hustle going, did what he did, oh well. When you start snitching on guys who been in the pro’s all this time, that’s gay. Eve nif t.moss says he took money, they’ll have to prove that too and the school has no way of knowing whether or not a player takes money from someone.

    I tell you one thing though, when shannon was the headcoach, all this was kept away, as soon as goldie comes on board, arrest started happening, aa booster running off at the trap, see goldie not connected, shapiro would’ve been scared to say something with shannon at the helm, he know shannon knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody. And if locutt left because of this situation, he’s a coward.

    And let’s not give frank haith credit by saying he left because he knew this was coming, nope, he left because allegtions or not, he was about to get fired.

    Speaking of which, where’s richie cunningham a.k.a. the new a.d. when they need em:
    http://youtu.be/AvzwYKUFaRw

  335. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Stick to facts, guys, and don’t let some two-bit-hack “journalist” who confuses his homophones (check the T Moss quote for the to/too error) elicit such a response out of you.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    Yeah, he had a few errors in there.

  336. I tell you one thing though, when shannon was the headcoach, all this was kept away, as soon as goldie comes on board, arrest started happening, aa booster running off at the trap, see goldie not connected, shapiro would’ve been scared to say something with shannon at the helm, he know shannon knows somebody that knows somebody that knows somebody
    —————–

    Been saying this for awhile. Buchs statements proved it for me brah. Shannon run the city!

  337. Shapiro first made these allegations last summer when Shannon was coach, so there goes that theory.

  338. JSq, i remember that. But then it was just BS talk. Now it’s yahoo involved and a full blown investigation.

    All of these pictures, quotes, receipts and statements weren’t released last summer.

    so although it was mentioned, no major moves were made until Shannon left.

  339. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    Man, I’d look like B-Mac standing next to Shapiro. lol

  340. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Ronny
    August 16, 2011 at 11:10 PM
    The fact that J-Futch played OLB for the past 3 years makes me believe he’d have the best shot to start there vs Maryland. Cain is listed as 3rd string @ MLB and the fact that we haven’t heard ANYTHING about him in fall practice isn’t a good sign.

    >>>>>>>>>>

    Yep. But the good thing is he’s 3rd string. I think he’ll come around though, maybe not at the Mike. But with coach D definitely running a lot of 3-4, you have to think Cain’s size and speed will fit in well somewhere.

  341. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    JSQ
    August 16, 2011 at 11:39 PM
    Shapiro first made these allegations last summer when Shannon was coach, so there goes that theory.

    Uchamps
    August 16, 2011 at 11:43 PM
    JSq, i remember that. But then it was just BS talk. Now it’s yahoo involved and a full blown investigation.

    All of these pictures, quotes, receipts and statements weren’t released last summer.

    so although it was mentioned, no major moves were made until Shannon left.

    >>>>>>>>>>>

    I’m inclined to agree with JSQ. Total luck. How long has Shapiro been locked up? Why would he wait until RS got fired unless he knew last summer that RS was going to be fired regardless of how the season went…..so he waited until THIS summer?? Doesn’t add up…

    I’m sure RS didn’t like him but was too absentee to actually police the team. Plus, dude was cutting checks….

  342. cav, he was scared of debo, shannon would’ve had em apologizing on espn right now!

  343. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    I’d bet money Golden has grilled all current players implicated and named….to find out if they’re eligible or not.

  344. UChamps, UM started the investigation last summer, as did the NCAA.

    Nice try, though.

  345. avatar
    Captain Optimist aka Cavaleer says:

    Calvin
    August 16, 2011 at 11:51 PM
    cav, he was scared of debo, shannon would’ve had em apologizing on espn right now!

    >>>>>>>>>

    LOL…

  346. hey, i aint making it into a conspiracy theory. i’m just saying the facts.

    And it’s a little hard to gather all of that info in jail so i’m guessing it took a while for him and the lawyer to get their ish together.

    You can’t deny that Shannon is connected though. It may have played a part. maybe not…most likely not.

  347. Also, Yahoo doesn’t sanction, the NCAA does.

    Don’t get hyperbole and innuendo confused with evidence.

    Again, I hope y’all never get sued.

    People lie, including reporters. However, even if all of it is true, they need to prove it.

    Relying on a dude in jail, fired coaches and has-been players does not a sanction make. They need more.

  348. You guys seriously need to READ the articles that you are relying on.

    This is such a joke and another case of the media hating on Miami.

    Lol, Rashad!!!

  349. JSq, don’t include me in the “yall” category. i’m not saying any of this is true. I personally don’t think even of it can be tied down to anything legit.

    Well, nothing i’ve seen or heard so far.

    I’m on your side. chiiiiiilllllll ; )

    You’ve been quite grumpy since the B-dayz!! U ok?

  350. UChamps,

    Um, no.

    It doesn’t matter that he is in prison. His attorney can do all that for him.

    Allegations came out a year ago. That is when the investigation came out.

    Facts are your friend.

    The NCAA can’t talk about it. UM won’t talk about it beyond canned catch phrases.

    Yahoo doesn’t have those restrictions.

    This article was ready a month ago and everyone knew it was coming out. Yahoo timed it to hit right before season and they have been interviewing him since March. After the investigation was already well underway.

  351. JSQ
    August 16, 2011 at 11:53 PM

    UChamps, UM started the investigation last summer, as did the NCAA.

    Nice try, though.
    ———–

    I know this already. I remember me and a bunch of guys from the ACC blog were trying to figure out wth was going on.

    It was a bunch of crap then as i believe it is now.

    But don’t act like just because they started the investigation last summer that all of these pictures and press were out last summer to because it wasn’t.

    I know you’re trying to put out this forest fire that is this scandal but i aint your arson Gf.

    : / you ready to go all law school on me!!!! Chiiiillll! :)

  352. Fine, UChamps, but saying that he wouldn’t come out with this if Shannon was coach is like saying I wouldn’t have gone to games if Shannon was coach.

    I already did. Midget McLiarson already did.

    It’s just a non-starter and completely not supported by fact. Google it. Or search the comments on the site from last August.

    Btw, Clint better be watching out for shanks now too. Snitches belong in ditches.

  353. And no, I’m effing tired! 18 days until vacation in MD!!!!

  354. Sigh.

    No, investigations take time.

    But that wasn’t your original point.

    You didn’t argue that he was afraid to allow Yahoo to publish an article while Shannon was still coach. You argued that he was afraid to make these allegations while Shannon was still coach.

    #fulllawyermode

  355. UChamps,

    Um, no.

    It doesn’t matter that he is in prison. His attorney can do all that for him.
    ———

    I know that. But she still has a life as well as the fact that is a lot of information to remember and try to connect with certain times, pictures, receipts, etc….

    So even if she could do it for him it would still take a while to piece the entire puzzle together, don’t you think?

    That’s a lot of players, a lot of people, a lot of money, and a lot of partying. You think he can recollect all that in a week?

    Don’t take this as a challenge. You live this stuff so school me if i have it all confused.

  356. JSQ
    August 17, 2011 at 12:08 AM

    Fine, UChamps, but saying that he wouldn’t come out with this if Shannon was coach is like saying I wouldn’t have gone to games if Shannon was coach.

    I already did. Midget McLiarson already did.

    It’s just a non-starter and completely not supported by fact. Google it. Or search the comments on the site from last August.

    Btw, Clint better be watching out for shanks now too. Snitches belong in ditches.
    ———–

    hahaha i got you. That’s my fault for SEEMINGLY seconding cal’s notion.

    I was really only agreeing with the Randy is connected part and not the “shapiro was afraid” part.

    That was a joke. hahahahaha now i see where the terminator lawyer eye came from.

    You were ready to go Mary connor in the courtroom on ya boi.

    hahahaha you don’t want it foreal though!!!

    I’ll pass the bar then pass you a bar to share with friends!!!

    jk jk all love!

  357. Ok, this is not a suit by Shapiro against UM.

    Let’s get that straight.

    This is nothing more than a bitter betsy snitching and probably making some ish up along the way.

    His criminal defense attorney (who was nearly disbarred) should not even be talking about this case. It is outside the litigation exception for slander and she could be in serious trouble.

    What she can do, as his attorney, is obtain financial records on his behalf and submit them, with his permission, to the NCAA, Yahoo, whomever.

    So, his being in jail is not an impediment to snitching and producing receipts from hotels that supposedly were for players.

    In fact, bish is probably helping him with all this because she knows the book deal is the only way she will get paid.

    She is a criminal defense attorney in Miami. That’s all you need to know right there.

  358. Also, that is why Yahoo wouldn’t publish player names on some things.

    Some of the stuff in that article is defined as “defamation per se” and damages need not be proven under Florida law.

    They can’t risk the lawsuit and they are just relying on some felon’s tall tales of when he used to pretend he was cool by paying for “friends.”

    Bish ain’t no Uncle Luke.

    Midget McLiarson.

  359. i’m curious as to how guys who are at other schools but allegedly received $$ from Shapiro will be handled if anything comes of this.

  360. Esteban, in one article he says he didn’t pay recruits, in another, he did.

    Dude can’t keep his story straight.

    Again, either way, not reliable sources. They need more.

  361. Well I guess I have advertised my skills as a defense attorney enough.

    UM should hire my firm as outside counsel. I’m a tame little kitten compared to most of the litigation department.

    Time for bed, for reals this time.

  362. When randy was the coach, shapiro wouldn’t have been this bold, he must think al is soft, welcome to Miami!

    And Uchamps, when choosing choose wisely my friend, if u ever in need and it’s close to this, BEWARE(not brandon merriweather either):
    http://youtu.be/tht1uwUUkiU

  363. avatar
    speedwrecks says:

    The Truth is that none off these disclosures points a smoking gun @ UM.
    JSQ, THANKFORHOLDINGFORTDOWN!

  364. Uchamps, bg, dawg, that mofo got 2 points, ROFL, insanez1 might protest it wasn’t more!
    http://youtu.be/P9RJbLV98fI

  365. If yall see me in a highspeed chase, if they happen to interview yall, don’t try to equate things i’ve posted on here as evidence that yall could see the highspeed chase coming and assume i did something. Real playa’s know how to avoid traps like the nc2a. The thing that’s funny to me is, i haven’t been reading the bs articles but i did see where this guy said the reason he’s doing it, is because the players turned there backs on him after they made it to the pro’s, lol, ok that all sounds good, and if that was the case, than he’d have to explain to me why he naming the northwestern 8 and the Seminole 2 and none of the BOOKER T. 3 or did he. Either way, what did they do, not give him tickets!

    They can’t be taking this clown seriously, but since it’s Miami, it’s got to get blown out of proportion.

  366. I should emphasize the obvious here: That none of Shapiro’s claims outlined in detail in the Yahoo.com report have been proven to be gospel. But circumstantial indications of truth appear mountainous. The UM fan who honestly believes none of this is true might be a potential customer to buy sand at the beach.

    Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/08/17/2362429/the-smoke-that-you-see-at-the.html#ixzz1VGYl0qm7

    ^^^My sentiments EXACTLY!

  367. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    I JUST HAD 2 go back and look at the funniest posts of the day…and as the norm would have it the USUAL SUSPECTS were at it…C1, Calvin, Uchamps almost made me poop in my drawers lol…but this one took the cake…

    Uchamps
    August 16, 2011 at 8:59 PM
    C1 i aint gone lie brah. That Shapiro dude is exactly how i pictured you would look in real life.

    I mean to the muthafudgin Tee mayne. hahahaha shades, gel, and all.
    ——Champ the funny thing is this is how I pictured my boy canez too…lol

  368. non-shapeero news:

    Larkin transfers to UM
    by: Steve Gorten August 16th, 2011 | 1:53 PM

    CORAL GABLES — Hurricanes men’s basketball coach Jim Larranaga couldn’t get Shane Larkin when he was coach at George Mason last season. He’ll have Larkin on his team this season.

    Larkin, son of ex-MLB player Barry Larkin, will transfer to Miami. The 5-foot-11 guard took an official visit to George Mason, but signed with DePaul.

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/

    + recap of the golden interview:

    Football news and notes
    by: Steve Gorten August 16th, 2011 | 3:00 PM

  369. CORAL GABLES, Fla.– The University of Miami held its second practice of the day on Tuesday, getting in an hour of special teams work before lighting cut the session short. The practice was the second half of the team’s third two-a-day of camp.

    After their customary stretch prior to practice, the Hurricanes – dressed in helmets and shells – separated into white and orange teams. The remainder of practice was spent working in different, kicking, punting and kick-off scenarios.

    Going the Distance
    Junior Jake Wieclaw and freshman Matt Goudis matched each other kick-for-kick from each hash up to 52 yards. Wieclaw also boomed a punt from his own endzone that sent the returner reeling before finally picking up the ball from his own 25-yard line.

    Not in My House
    Andrew Swasey raced through an opening on one of Goudis’ field goal attempts and with a leaping effort, was able to get a piece of the ball, leaving the kick to flutter wide left. Two plays later, Wake Forest transfer Mike Williams easily broke through the line and stuffed another Goudis attempt as the lighting detection system on Greentree sounded off, ending the session for good.

    http://hurricanesports.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/081611aad.html

  370. Splarfy
    August 16, 2011 at 8:45 PM
    Was Truth on the list?
    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    The Truth
    August 16, 2011 at 10:59 PM
    Hey…why don’t you get F@ck yourself and leave my name out of your mouth.

    Thanks.

    Have a GREAT night!

    Go Canes!

    <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

    huh? the splarfy post was very funny

    Truth – don't forget the meds before you read this blog

  371. What .. the .. flying .. f*ck?

    I come on here after a long day of covering Bucs practice and breaking down a crap ton of high school games to cover this year and I walk into the end of times?

    It was bad enough trying to get people blowing my cell up all day about this, to calm the hell down, and to tell them to keep their eyes off the sky b/c the 4 horsemen are not riding down with the apocalypse behind them

    (Happy BDay Este by the way, you Col. Kurtz from “Apocalypse Now” looking f*cker)

    First, I couldn’t stop laughing about that pic of the midget jabroni with K2, in the club, rocking his A&F fagtastic shirt … ah, that made my day right there

    Second, so the guy has some pics of him with players .. who gives a crap?

    I’m more worried about the DB and QB play of the Canes this year than this Shapiro garbage

    Will this really hurt current recruiting? I’m not too worried about it – I’m just worried about whether they’ll have enough schollies open for all the other players that Golden & the boys will pull in

    Did Golden look worried in that video that Canez1 posted? Ya, not exactly .. and loved the fact he took some jabs at other schools in the process

    There is a lawyer present on this blog. I would think you’d listen to her before any of these writers who are making your doomsday you have cooked up in your melons even worse

  372. dz8 – glad to see you made parole!

    keep drinking the gatorade and staying on good behavior

    . . . so you can keep playing blog-tag with jsq

  373. bg1906
    August 16, 2011 at 7:29 PM

    I won’t say another word about it. We’ll see in the end. Going to be a lot of stunned people crying foul when this ends. I promise you.

    ******

    Haha, come on my man, you’ve dropped 13 posts and counting about Shapiro related stuff after this original post about not saying another word about it

    What’s even more hilarious are the newspaper writers that are piggy backing the Yahoo article and just basically re-arranging words, slapping their name on it and then using it as their article of the day

    AHHH, THE END OF THE WORLD, AHHHHH

    No, the end of the world comes on Sundays when f*cking Chik-Fil-A isn’t open when I want some damn waffle fries

  374. well, despite jsq & six & others, if anyone is sitting on a ledge right now, they probably don’t want to read stewart mandel’s piece in SI:

    Credibility of NCAA enforcement will be tested by Miami allegations

    Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/stewart_mandel/08/16/miami.hurricanes.allegations.reaction/index.html#ixzz1VGmvOJa7

  375. one thing that’s clear, this shyt isn’t going away overnight

    like having a gummed-up condom thrown in your 5-star soup

    . . . you want to enjoy the soup, but the leakage of that foreign object is nasty

  376. avatar
    rejuvaphan says:

    Listening to Joe Rose as we speak. If you believe him, we might be candidates for the death penalty- all from information a thief, a felon who contradicts himself has provided. I am glad we have JSQ here to advise us, but this talk on the radio is depressing.
    I thought Randy Shannon was such an upright and controlling coach. Did any of this garbage go on when he was coach, as shapiro says? Coker, on the other hand, seemed to be out to lunch, in my opinion.
    What about these present players named? I have a knot in my stomach. The Miami haters are out, and are looking for blood. Yet OSU gets away with crap.

  377. avatar
    USNAVYCANE says:

    They have one hotel receipt tied to one player’s family by name in the past four years, Arthur Brown. And they have two very large restaurant tabs that the liar claims he bought for some current players. It is the same two tabs listed for every current player. There is no corroboration other than one witness, who I believe to be his girlfriend. You have to look a little closer at what is actually presented. There is I believe a total of three maybe four credit card charges since 2007 that are used as evidence against maybe 15 players. Anybody can pull out a huge restaurant tab and claim that Miami players were there. The problem is that there is no proof who was actually at the dinner. It could have been anybody. There is no photograph, nothing. Tyrone Moss has not played for Miami since 2006. Every other “source” was unnamed and afraid to be named. I do not think they will be going public with the NCAA. We had more than 400 players over the period in question, and this article produced one name and eight players total. We will get a light to moderate sanction. All this Yahoo story has over the past four seasons is some ambiguous charges on a credit card, and a hotel room bought for a the family of a player who left the team after 2009.

  378. avatar
    raizecane says:

    BG – Did you hear Bill King this morning? he said it’s early but if things turn out to be true, it’s the worse case he has seen since SMU

    I don’t like to be a negative nancy but this is NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR MIAMI.

    Where there is smoke, there is fire and their are some serious smoke signals coming out of Coral Gables.

  379. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Thank you, USNAVY, for coming forward and taking a logical look at the facts.

    The rest of you screaming Mimis’ need to take a deep breath and settle down.

    Over the next few days this will be all over the place. Fake self-righteous outrage. Rehashing of the same sh!t over and over again in the print and tv media by hacks with no discernible talents. Calls for banning the program. Get used to it or do what I do – don’t read it and don’t watch it on ESPN for about week or two.

    Eventually this will become about what can be proven to the NCAA’s satisfaction. We won’t know that for a year or more. That’s when I’ll pay it close attention because that’s when we’ll have a better idea of the actual impact to the prigram.

    Big shoutout to JSQ, six, and a handful of others for being level-headed and not dissolving into a bunch of hysterical boneheads that confuse allegations from a felon with irrefutable facts.

    Don’t be prisoners of the moment!

  380. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    program

  381. Damn, Sp orts. Illustrated tried to go in on UM. The death penalty though?really? om a bunch of jumbled up crap? That arthur brown info is not good at all though. Damn damn daaaamn

  382. Golden this morning stated all players will continue to practice until he is told by the NCAA otherwise.

  383. Bg, no one said his allegations don’t have some truth to them. I think he’s exaggerating, though, trying to sound cool, and is lying about the evidence.

  384. Not sure how you guys thought Canez1 is a midget. There have been plenty of pictures on here showing dude is still like half a foot taller than me when I wear heels and y’all know I’m not petite.

  385. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    It doesn’t matter what’s “true” according to that midget troll. It’s what can he reasonably prove to the NCAA’s satisfaction.

  386. Rejuvaphan,

    Joe Rose is still a journalist. Dude wants people to listen to his show.

    Take people who want ratings with a grain of salt.

    Joe Rose doesn’t know anything more than my Debbie Downer Facebook friends.

    I like Joe Rose but it says a lot about him and other reporters what happens when the team is faced with some adversity.

  387. What NavyCane said.

    God bless our troops. Happy we have someone like you representing us.

  388. avatar
    rejuvaphan says:

    Thanks, JSQ. I am glad for your balance and calm. It helps me… although I wish someone would kick that guy Shapiro in his face.

  389. Sweet Jesus, Raize, don’t believe everything you hear. You think Bill King knows everything you know.

    Stop and re-read all my posts on this blog.

    There, now you know more about the situation than Bill King.

    DON’T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR!!!

  390. Thanks, Cubed.

    Another level head on the blog.

    Thank God.

    Maybe they will listen to you.

  391. I didn’t catch all of Joe Rose’s show, just a part when the attourney was on. He was basically ripping her saying she was looking for sympathy and he said this guy needs to spend the rest of his life in jail.

    Also Debbie Downer is a great porn name.

  392. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    I’ll take issue with one thing, though. Joe Rose is not a journalist. He’s a TV & radio personality, whose living depends on ratings.

    If there was any real journalism going on we would be getting both sides of the story.

    Sadly, we don’t have anybody out there putting a little spin on it going our way. So the feeding frenzy will continue unabated for several days.

  393. Asante!

    “My first practice [as head coach] was around Dec. 14 or 15 and I said, ‘Asante looks like he’s one of the best out here,’” Golden recalled. “We missed him all spring. Now he’s coming back and is really doing a good job, competing for a starting job right now.”

  394. Rejuvaphan, Shapiro is going to get shanked in a Miami prison. As I’m sure SI will tell you, there are ‘Canes fans in jail. Lol.

  395. Anyone miss my post about the attorney being sanctioned by the Southern District of Florida?

    That is pretty hard to do.

    This chick is a quack.

    Please stop, think if this was happening to Floriduh, and think about what can be proved and what is publicity for a book.

    I’m more worried about some of y’alls mental health than UM getting the death penalty.

  396. and we’ll see what sticks. at least pieces will stick most likely.

    also, tyrone moss takes $1000 (for his kid) but couldn’t get in shape at any point? didn’t think him being in shape would help his chances at providing NFL money for his kid? he took money to go to the chinese buffet – any other reason given just isn’t true.

  397. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Thanks JSQ for bringing some of us, myself included, back to reality. The media is nothing but a bunch of liberals. You know my feelings towards them.

  398. Cubed, Josh (from CI) and I are working on a several part article to clear things up.

    So there will be a voice of reason, although I’m sure it won’t get 1/100 of the hits as the Yahoo article.

    And maybe journalist was too kind. Not trying to bash the man but say that everyone needs to cool it with thinking what he says is the gospel.

    Maybe some of you are upset because you didn’t think this went on at UM.

    Wake up, this goes on everywhere and I have been dropping hints for weeks, especially when y’all were jumping up and down about the Bama booster.

    Doesn’t mean there is proof.

  399. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    JSQ thank you and all the others with level heads.

    I’m not sticking my head in the sand, this has to be dealt with, but right now we’re in the middle of a media orgy and actual facts be damned.

    Eventually, in a week or less or more, the media feeding frenzy WILL die down, and it will then become about what case can we put together to satisfy a bunch of fat asses sitting on a committee.

    It will become at some point, a negotiation. That’s when we’ll have a better idea of the impact.

    Whatever the future holds, I’m a Cane ’til I die. That will NEVER change.

  400. Also, y’all are forgetting that UM conducted their own investigation and self reported.

    That’s what the NCAA is doing in Coral Gables.

    Hearing UM’s evidence.

    Y’all act like the NCAA officials are all over campus taking the []_[] of ish and putting a croc head.

    They are meeting with compliance and UM’s in house counsel, etc.

    Facts. They do a brain good.

  401. its an exciting time to be a Cane fan. new coaches, new season, new hopes, new allegations.

    i got in the car this morning and put the Sports Junkies on and the topic…The U. I arrive at the parking lot and turn off the radio and the topic that was on….The U. 30 minutes of nothing but talk about Miami Hurricanes football and basketball. Was great.

  402. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    …oh and thanks for putting that article together. I’m sure it will have more logic and credibility than the tripe passing for journalism out there.

    Obviously it has to be reported, but I came to be sad conclusion last night that these reports have absolutely zero balance or cogent analysis.

    Whatever side of the political spectrum you’re on, real journalism has been dead for a long time. It’s all about ratings or advocacy or both. Objectivity be damned.

  403. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    lol @ Esteban. They’re finally talking about us!

  404. Love it, Esteban! hahaha

  405. avatar
    raizecane says:

    Went to play a little NCAA 2012 this morning and for some reason was not able to find Miami……. LOL

  406. yeah, i enjoyed it. was funny too. were saying if there are any Nevin Shapiro’s of sports talk radio to give them a call.

    but i bet there are a ton of schools hoping this doesn’t materialize with the NCAA. got that former Nebraska player in a picture. This guy’s allegations are Miami centered but with all the guys who come down here as recruits or in the off season to hang out/party. If this guy was the party guy for all them years…we got big time football programs all around the country pulling for us.

  407. Wow, one of my law school classmates has gone off the deep end.

    I happen to know he didn’t exactly graduate at the top of his class, but still.

    People are losing their damn minds.

  408. fear and panic, its the normal response to news like this usually. then after it has time to set in and people think rationally then they know its just the end of the program and now they need to become FIU fans or something.

    all good.

  409. LMAO!

    I think Calvin is already ahead of the curve.

    Pretty soon it will just be alumni that are ‘Canes fans.

    [tumbleweed blows]

  410. Omar just got locked up on a murder Chris committed.

    “They got honey nut cheerios in here?”

  411. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Keep the faith people.

    In a few days, or week, or so, the media will find another leg to hump on.

    Maybe Teabag and Urban will move to NY state and be legally married. Maybe Delonte West will actually off somebody. Trust me other sh!t will hit the fan…and then the season will be here and we’ll have actual football to talk about.

    Anyway, like fat Clemenza said, we go to the matresses, these things have to happen every ten years or so. Gets rid of the bad blood.

    We’ll get through this.

  412. avatar
    east st louis cane says:

    Thanks jsq for the insight. I think this is all bs.Lil dude gets mad and know he wants to snitch,were iam from snitches get stiches then get put in ditches.They have been investagating this for five months the ncaa prez said so iam not wooried bout this. The ncaa has always hated the U and they will always hate.When we get that six ring they really gone hate.They see big things are about to happen and they trying to stop it.I see big things this year and they see it too.We will get over this .

  413. I’m sort of embarrassed to be friends, even if just on Facebook, with some of the people I know.

    I’m not sure if they are just drama queens, illogical, or stupid enough to take a Yahoo article as truth.

    Either way, I seriously hope none of these people ever faces serious adversity in life.

  414. avatar
    CANE FAN KB says:

    JSQ thank you for being one of the few logical voices of reason so far in this whole sh*tstorm. I am being cool, level-headed, and taking a “let the story/facts play out” approach and not running around as if it is the apocalypse for UM football. I am trying to keep my frat brother in Charlotte calm as well, since he is ready to dive head first off the deep end. The worst part about all this is living in Greenville, SC and hearing all these Clemson/Gamecock fans talk ish about my team, as if they’re programs have done anything substantial. Hell, even if there were allegations against these two schools no one would care because they are for the most part irrelevant. So again thank you for keeping a level head and talking other fans off the ledge. Much love from South Carolina.

    No matter what happens, I’m still a Cane Fan for life.

  415. Honestly, many of you guys with this “death penalty” talk need to chill out. I’m with JSQ, Navy, and Cx3. Let the dust settle.

    Navy said it best:
    “Every other “source” was unnamed and afraid to be named. I do not think they will be going public with the NCAA. We had more than 400 players over the period in question, and this article produced one name and eight players total. We will get a light to moderate sanction. All this Yahoo story has over the past four seasons is some ambiguous charges on a credit card, and a hotel room bought for a the family of a player who left the team after 2009.”

  416. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH11) says:

    No matter what the end result of this is, it’s a total cluster -f and will likely forever change the way football is played here.

    WTF was Tyrone Moss thinking btw. Take the money, get a free $200k education for being fat and lazy for four underachieving, wasted years, then throw your alma mater and team mates under the bus.

    What a total douchebag.

  417. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Heard u on 24/7 bg

  418. i do gotta admit the picture with Haith, Shapiro, and Shalala is perfect for the yahoo article. Couldn’t ask for a better one. Strip Club friend Haith shaking hands with Shapiro while the leprechaun looking Donna is looking at the check and almost looking giddy. what makes it even better is that she’s using two hands to hold the check instead of just casually holding it. only with photoshop could you have come out with a better picture. and even that would just add a football player hanging out in the background with a prostitute or something.

  419. It’s impossible to have this mountain of ish dumped all over the media outlets and not get really worked up about it. I agree that once again this blog and JSQ especially are keeping me from “doom and glooming”, and I thank you for that. I will sigh and groan for awhile… but I really hope the University or whomever steps up and comes back swinging at this jrkoff, doesn’t seem like it will be too hard to get people to seriously question this dwarfs motivation and personal character. tmoss you suck. To all the G’s in prison my offer of cigarettes and canteen money still stands.

  420. Tyrone Moss pulled my Kyle Wright scenario of hurting us on the field while a player and then hurting us after.

    and Moss could play and was the work horse for the one year he was in shape. But he was in shape for exactly 1 season and that’s the year he got hurt – go figure. Moss is also the guy Soldinger demoted cause he was out of shape but Coker made him first string again undermining the lesson being taught.

  421. wow! the sun came up this morning!

  422. Well listened to a bunch of interviews this morning and have to say, I still feel the same way as last night…got the lifejacket on, but no need to jump quite yet (and to be clear I mean metaphorically in reference to the boat sinking i.e. the school being in deep ish, not as a UM fan). Of course this is a public beating, but I think after due process, this will not be death penalty bad.

    Also, one thing to note in an interview I heard with Charles Robinson this morning about the death penalty. Even though he wrote this whole expose, the one thing he maintained, is that this will not be a death penalty case. For all that talk, he said SMU made people realize that it not only hurt the school, but hurt the conference and effected many other parties. And because of that, he is not sure the NCAA will ever do that again…just thought that bears repeating given the opinion and outlook of some.

  423. Only guy I do feel bad for Al Golden, and not because he has to deal with this ish, but because according to him, he was never told. You don’t say that publicly unless your really pissed (or its part of some weird plausible deny-ability PR strategy I just cannot comprehend right now)

  424. Here is an article for those looking for the other side of this (This from SaveUMFootball) – http://allabouttheu.wordpress.com/2011/08/17/vultures-circling-the-carcas-the-death-of-miami-football/

  425. Go figure, HD69!

    Definitely not a death penalty case.

    I haven’t seen people so worked up since the time one of my sorority sisters hooked up with the guy that another sorority sister liked in sorority sister #2′s parents house, in the shower.

    I think some people just like to work themselves into a tizzy over things.

    It’s your ulcer.

  426. CanesCanesCanes
    August 17, 2011 at 8:34 AM

    Sadly, we don’t have anybody out there putting a little spin on it going our way. So the feeding frenzy will continue unabated for several days.

    ————————————————————————————————

    What C3 said!! Ditto.

  427. And to also note, that article is not blind to many things, just shows don’t take EVERYTHING at face value

  428. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    This is a process and a series of steps. Many are in the shock/anger stage. You know, then rejection, acceptance, hope. We’ve all heard it before.

    In my career, I’ve dealt with much worse crisis situations. Stock/net worth plummets, mass layoffs, months and even years of creeping uncertainty. Things that affect people at the most fundamental level.

    It helps to stop, analyze, and determine what the next steps are.

    Being emotional is understandable but quickly becomes counterproductive. I lashed out also, though mostly at you guys.

    imo, we will have to take some medicine here, but I don’t think it will be as bad as runaway emotions would lead you to believe.

    I still plan to contribute, I still will attend the HC club practice this Saturday, and we’ll be yelling our support to the players and coaches.

    I love the U.

  429. CX3 – Great points and worth reposting:

    It helps to stop, analyze, and determine what the next steps are. Being emotional is understandable but quickly becomes counterproductive.

    In a crisis, aggressive reaction is not always the best course. You have to be calculated. People can’t punish you for saying something wrong, if you don’t say anything. As soon as you engage, it will drag out longer, and in this case, that is not what you want (in certain instances that has a time and place, but this is not one).

  430. Shwarma, thanks for posting that link. This will hopefully discredit alot if not most of what Shapiro and Perez are saying. It also make the people like myself, who don’t see the glass as full as it needs to be, much better about the situation.

  431. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    S5 – thanks for reading and listening to those sources, I’ll take your analysis at face value. I can’t now and won’t later. Just not giving my free time for that. So I really appreciate yours and everyone else’s honest takes on these reports.

    This too shall pass.

  432. C3, Shwarma, I am with that!

  433. Golden knew.

    He researched the he!! out of the position before he applied.

    You don’t think this came up in his google search?

    He’s no dummy.

  434. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Meant to say

    I can’t read those sources now and won’t later.

  435. shwarma5
    August 17, 2011 at 10:11 AM
    And to also note, that article is not blind to many things, just shows don’t take EVERYTHING at face value.

    —————————————————————————————

    I glanced at various individual (players) reports in the yahoo article and could not help noticing the corroboration was by a “second source”. Bet this second source is Shapiro’s girlfriend which has the same agenda. That is not an independent corroboration. That is why most serious reporters require at least 3 independent sources before publishing.

  436. Golden had to know. He’s no dummy.

  437. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Not putting words in Goldies mouth, but when I heard the interview I took him to mean he wasn’t aware of the extent of the allegations. Remember, when Golden was interviewed, he had been to several meetings already that went into great detail. I do believe he was not aware of the minute details and broad extent of the allegations until recently.

  438. The All About the U article is a start, but it is still relying on Yahoo’s account of what is going on for its conclusion.

    Silly.

  439. Cubed, UM has been conducting this investigation for a year.

    Golden knew.

  440. Thanks guys, but also don’t think I am saying its all good. Trust me there is plenty of reason to be nervous, I am just saying take it all before going right to the deep end.

    JSQ – I hear where you are coming from (and certainly agree he is smart and thorough), but why say that publicly? That’s the whole point. I understand like I said their might be some reason he is trying to say he didn’t know and the university didn’t tell him, but if they had a pre-existing investigation going on, and have acknowledged it, why would you say that? From a legal/regulatory standpoint I might be missing something, but from a PR standpoint its conflicting. There is just a missing dot in all this. (Unless the strategy behind close doors was to really downplay the whole ongoing investigation, which still makes little sense since you want to appear you are being forthright and tough on this issue)

  441. CanesCanesCanes says:
    August 17, 2011 at 10:33 AM

    Not putting words in Goldies mouth, but when I heard the interview I took him to mean he wasn’t aware of the extent of the allegations. Remember, when Golden was interviewed, he had been to several meetings already that went into great detail. I do believe he was not aware of the minute details and broad extent of the allegations until recently.

    ^^^^^^^

    Now this makes sense. I haven’t had the chance to listen to every interview yet, and therefore was just taking Golden’s statement of “I didn’t know” at face value. If there was context beyond this, that then changes my interpretation to an extent. It makes his statement strategic then (though still dangerous)

  442. If you scared…..Say you scared…..

    I ain’t scared.

  443. JSQ, is the year verified? I heard five months this morning too…

  444. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Right, right JSQ. Of course he did. That’s only logical. My speculation is that some information that was part of the investigation that counsel and other key individuals knew about, was out of necessity “need to know”, so coaching was not in the loop. Parsing of information happens all the time in internal investigations. At least in the corporate world when counsel is involved.

    Anyway, that’s what his story probably needs to be so he doesn’t sound like a liar. But in the bigger picture, what he knew or when he knew will have no impact on the outcome as you well know.

  445. yeah there will things that stick. just a matter of how much. won’t be the end of the world like some make it seem.

    tough question for Golden is what to do with guys who are currently on the team who they have found took gifts/$$ from Shapiro – you know guys who they have cold hard evidence saying dudes took money. suspensions might be enough, but for how long. and if you don’t suspend ahead of time and this team actually wins big this year then are those wins forfeited down the road maybe? don’t envy Golden right now. even without the sky falling there are still plenty of tough decisions ahead that probably need to be made pretty quick.

  446. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Good point, Este. The Carolina scenario. I think I read somewhere coaching is awaiting guidance from the NCAA on what to do with current players. Something like that.

    In terms of current impact, this is the most pressing issue.

  447. Say a current player admits behind closed doors to taking $$$, do you sit them or do you think, well, they can’t prove it (cash transactions are hard like that) I will roll the dice and play them…I say you sit their ass as its no time to be playing games, but we will see what happens

  448. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    I’ve got to get back to work, which will be a nice break.

    One thing I’m sure of, we’re NOT getting the death penalty or anything like that. 100% sure!

    The administration’s cooperation with the NCAA will assure that as I’m sure JSQ can attest to.

    If you think so, read into what SMU’s administration did to deserve the death penalty… or watch 30/30-Pony Excess. It’s usually not the crime , it’s the coverup. So those talking death penalty – get a grip!

    This doesn’t even come close. By a country mile!!!!!!

  449. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Shwarma depends on who the player is…from the 12 named they arnt irreplaceable…j12, slo mo 4, tb3 ect we got guys behind them..but them 2 safeties that could be a diff story…but in the end if u got solid stuff on current players they gotta get to packin!!!

  450. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    Pardon my french but Tyrone Moss=Bitch-ass-ness!!

  451. Words of wisdom from Uncle Luke!!

    “The NCAA shouldn’t even waste any gas money on this guy. But the investigators have to do their due diligence. In the meantime, every UM fan should send a letter to Shapiro’s prison warden and insist he remain in general population.”

  452. agreed Nash, need to find that out quick. cause if we are down our starting safeties we need that contingency plan ready.

  453. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    One thing that make the “death penalty” come up is “people” hollering fo it!!! One thing fo sho is I ain’t loss no sleep over it!!! I’m prepared for the worst!!!

  454. Just read the Al Golden transcript, and CX3 I think was right on. He knew but not quite to what extent, and he is setting himself up to make sure he doesn’t worsen the problem in anyway.

  455. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    PlayaCane aka Rashad
    August 17, 2011 at 11:08 AM
    Pardon my french but Tyrone Moss=Bitch-ass-ness!!

    —- Heeheeheehee…shad wit the short post of the day…one thing bout Barry Bonds homie Greg Anderson ….he didn’t roll over on him…took the jail time and said I’ll get hooked up later (sound like my boy Calvin huh lol)…just think, most of this could have been avoided to a certain extent if the guilty ones that “made it” would have returned the favor to ole boy

  456. past Luke article on Shapiro

  457. I love this team. Honestly, the only this g im worried about is meeting most of you and cheering/drinking you under the table on September er 5th. There is a still a season to play. Id much rather debate on Harris-morris than give Shapiro Any more energy

  458. avatar
    speedwrecks says:

    The ultimate reality here is that all this is from 1 person that is locked away and can’t no longer corrupt young men at the U or any other institution, except for the correctional institution. Whatever the mistakes these young men made, Shapiro isn’t paying enough for the the billion he swindled. While there’s grain of truth here, it does not rise to any level of administrative culpability.
    JSQ, thanks to yours, it seems that people are finally realizing the sky ain’t falling.

  459. Uchamps, depending on the outcome, Shapiro might have actually settled that debate for us….

  460. yeah we need Ryan Williams eligible this year

  461. new blog up

  462. JSQ.

    He’s in FEDERAL prison in ATL. Not much will happen to him. IF he was in Florida Penn or county jail, yeah he’d have something to worry about because he broke every street code known to man. I’m through trying to get you all to understand the severity of this. Just know this, there is a some truth and some false in ALL allegations. Thing is there doesn’t require a lot of truth for them to nail us the way they want too. There is an atmosphere of non-compliance in the entire NCAA so this is the ABSOLUTE worse time to have ANY allegations pending against you. Having the NCAA around in ANY capacity is NEVER good because NO PROGRAM is 100% clean. If they have to come around for any extended period of time they WILL FIND SOMETHING! You guys play blind all you want and you guys can homers to the Nth degree, but we are ALL EDUCATED SMART PEOPLE here. This will not end good for us on ANY front. I promise you that and if you don’t believe that then as Biggie would say…

    There’s gonna be a lot of slow singing and flower bringing!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTXIwgr3VIA

  463. bg, he is being transferred down here.

    Next.

  464. avatar
    e3chicago says:

    jsq.
    great article. however, i’m not 100% sure, but i don’t think Miami is Shapiro’s Alma Mater. I had heard he went to USF.

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