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Miami vs. BC Preview

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~ The following article was contributed by esteemed Eye of the Hurricane blogger, Delray.  Thank you so much, Delray, for doing such a great job previewing the games this season.  We appreciate you! ~

The Miami Hurricanes (6-5, 3-4 ACC) will looks to finish the season .500 in the ACC as they take on the Eagles of Boston College (3-8, 2-5 Big East) on Black Friday afternoon at 3:30pm on ABC.  This game will be the first time Boston College and Miami have met on Black Friday since the famous (or infamous) “Flutie Miracle” game of 1984.  Twenty-Six years ago Flutie, the Boston College Heisman Trophy winning quarterback, beat the Canes on a last-play “Hail Mary” pass play which was caught by BC’s Gerald Phelan in the end zone for a touchdown, giving the Eagles a 47-45 victory at the old Orange Bowl Stadium (moment of silence).  This is the only time the Eagles have beaten Miami in Miami.  The last time these two teams played was 2007 when the Eagles beat the Canes 28-14. 

With Miami declaring themselves Bowl ineligible after their 6-3 win in Tampa this past weekend, this will no doubt be an melodramatic finish for the seniors that have not won a bowl game during their time at Miami.  Look for both teams to play some players that they have not played all year in an effort to get the seniors those last few snaps for which will be the end of their college careers.

Let’s look at the Eagles statistically…

QB Chase Rettig (6-3, 212, So.). Chase has completed 157-of-300 passes for 1,758 yards  and has thrown 10 touchdowns to 9 interceptions.   That is an efficiency rating of 106.6.  He is about as much of a threat to run as Marino was. 

RB – The Eagles rushing attack is lead by Rolandan Finch (5-10, 201, Jr.) who has 135 attempts for 609 yds with three scores and Andre Williams (6-0, 216, So.) with 111 carries for 465 yards and 4 TDs.  

WR – Colin Larmond.(6-3, 202, Jr.)) leads the team with 34 receptions for 530 yards and three touchdowns.  Bobby Swigert (6-1, 184, So.) has also contributed with 40 receptions for 395 yards with and also has three touchdowns.  At TE – Chris Pantale (6-6, 251, Jr.) has chipped in with 17 receptions for 166 yards and one score.  The Eagles will often line up with three receivers and a 1 back formation.

OL – The offensive is anchored by center Mark Spinney (6-4, 282, Sr.).  At the guard spots are Bobby Vardaro (6-5, 301, R-Fr.) and Ian White (6-5, 288, So.).  Outside at the tackle slots are John Wetzel (6-8, 303, Jr.) and Emmett Cleary (6-7, 300, Jr.).  It seems like both these tackles could also help the Eagles out on the basketball court.

On defense The Eagles will show a 4-3 scheme. Their defense allows almost 400 yards per game and 24.1 points per game.  They are ranked 73th in total defense.

DL – At the Defensive Tackle spots are Dominic Appiah (6-5, 286, R-Fr.) who has 33 tackles, six and a half for loss and two sack and  Max Ricci (6-4, 330, Fr.) who has 6 tackles.

Defensive ends  – Max Holloway (6-2, 253, Jr.) has 42 tackles, 6 for loss and two and a half sacksKasim Edebali (6-2, 248, So.) has totaled 26 tackles and a half or a loss.

LB – At the LB spots Luke Kuechly (6-3, 235, Jr.) roams the middle and is one of the most dominant middle linebackers in the country with 182 total stops with 11 of those for a loss. Sean Duggan (6-4, 215, Fr.) on the weak side has 37 total tackles with three for a loss.  On the strong side Steele Divitto (6-3, 225, So.) comes in with 66 total tackles, three and a half for a loss and two sacks.

CB/S – Corner Donnie Fletcher (6-1, 195, Sr.)has 33 stops and interception.  Manny Asprilla (5-10, 170, Fr.) has 27 tackles and one and a half for a loss and one pick.  Safety spots are occupied by Dominique Williams (6-0, 209, R-Fr.) on the strong side and  Hampton Hughes (6-3, 200, Jr.) on the free side.  Combined they have 47 tackles with Williams having the lone pick.  On a side note former Cane commit Al Louis-Jean, Jr. (6-2, 183, Fr.) who decommited after Randy left has played in 8 games and has 15 tackles.

K/P –  Nate Freese is 9-of-15 on FG attempts with a long of 52 and a is 23-of-24 on PATs. Punter  Ryan Quigley has 63 punts, averaging  38.4 yards per punt.

Kick/Punt Returns –   Spiffy Evans (yes, that is how his name is listed) has 21 kick return chances with a 21.3 yard average with a long of 32 yards.   Bobby Swigerthas 10 punt returns for 55 yards, averaging 5.5 per return, with a long of 14 yards.

Key Match-ups

I don’t know how many times we have said this but we are going to say it again.  Miami’s biggest opponent for this game will be themselves.  They need to not commit turnovers and penalties.  They will also need to worry about Kuechly in the middle.  Jacory should be able to have his way with the Eagles secondary due to Miami’s superior receivers and BC’s lack of a pass rush.  This should be an exciting game as the Hurricanes close out their season and some of their players close out their careers.  I’m keeping my fingers crossed that some of them will be back, though.

Hope to see you all at Sun Life on Friday afternoon.  Have a safe and enjoyable Thanksgiving.

  1. Haley!! I need a split shot Half Green Half Orange

  2. Go Canes!

  3. Lol, Uchamps = sprung.

    Just take two, an orange and a green, and swirl it around in your mouth.

  4. JSQ
    November 22, 2011 at 11:06 AM

    Lol, Uchamps = sprung.

    Just take two, an orange and a green, and swirl it around in your mouth.
    ———————

    Thanx for the prescription Doc Clarke…. I needed something for this bad case of the FlexiHalenitis

  5. You are doomed, UChamps. You can’t even see how pretty her face is from those pictures.

    Do you have Facebook? If so, I could make an introduction.

  6. Oh yeah, i’ve got the book!

    http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000295994766

    JSQ, didn’t know you worked in medicine too! lol

    Love Docta!!!

  7. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH11) says:

    Missing a bowl sucks but after watching this whole thing unfold I give the U an A+ for how they’ve handled themselves.

  8. Somebody cancelled the bowl because they didn’t want j2 to break dorsey’s touchdown record!

  9. JSq, i’m surprised we even had one mutual friend. And it would be someone i know and played against in high school. I bet he wouldn’t tell you I made him fumble on a TE reverse in high school!

    His coached loved me. If the “not” wasn’t one of the more dangerous schools in Richmond then my peeps would’ve def. let me play there. Hell, i would’ve had a much better chance to play for the U.

    Coach Mac knew how to get his players exposed and recruited.

    He did a lot for inner city youth here in Richmond.

    He’d have kids from other districts playing for him. Hence, Why i know he loved me.

    Hell of a guy

  10. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    LOL@Uchamps. BTW, you do look like Portis to me..lol

  11. Well damn Shad……

    I guess I’m a OmarVickBuressPortisIdris Hybrid.

    Because everywhere i go or whenever someone sees me they tell me that.

    How do I look like all of these people??? I mean damn…. Who the F am I?

  12. Cal spot on as always…

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  13. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    LMAO@C1!!!!

    LOL@Uchamps. The first time I saw the pic JSQ posted, I was like, oh shoot, they met Portis while they were up there..lol..I’d say Portis over Burress.

  14. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    Manny_Navarro South Miami CB AJ Leggett, a #UM recruit, said he received ACT score of 22 last week and has a 2.3 GPA. Says good enough to get into #UM 42 minutes ago · reply · retweet · favorite

  15. Bwash says he is coming back.

    Hopefully at G and end this T nonsense.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  16. Good to have you as a FB friend, UChamps!

    And yeah, I am the love doctor! I have always loved setting up my guy friends with girl friends.

    No long term success stories yet, but I’ve gotten some people . . .

    Anyway. . .

  17. Bwash says he is coming back.

    Hopefully at G and end this T nonsense.
    ———-
    Thank god.

    We should be DEADLY. NEXT YEAR!

  18. That pressure kick drill that Golden uses in practice is pretty clever. This guy covers every nuance of the game.

    I love this man!

    Go Golden!

  19. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    BWash @ G – his natural position

  20. And it is hard to imagine Lamar Miller going 1st round this year – DZ8, where you at?

  21. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    Sounds like the runts attorney stuck her foot in her mouth or flat out lied.

    Also Monday, the NCAA flatly denied that its investigation into Miami has been slowed by other college scandals, including the ongoing situation at Penn State. The NCAA comment was in response to Shapiro’s attorney, Maria Elena Perez, saying Sunday that the Penn State matter was impeding progress of the Miami inquiry.

    http://www.foxsportssouth.com/11/21/11/Miami-plenty-to-play-for-despite-bowl-in/landing.html?blockID=609458&feedID=10214

  22. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    That article does not paint a pretty picture of where our football program has been the last few years….

  23. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    If few = 7 + years.

  24. Not sure there is a pretty way to paint what has happened to our program . . .

  25. On a brighter note: I AM SO EXCITED TO START COOKING TONIGHT!

    I love the food holidays!

    Making the mini pumpkin pie crust tonight plus my mom’s fudge and then tomorrow night JSK and I put up the tree and make everything for the tailgate!

    Yaaaaaaaay!!!! This is going to be a great week! :-D

  26. Going crazy with auditors today!

    Go Canes! Catch up with all of you later.

  27. More importantly – this right here

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2011/11/without-bowl-practices-miami-will-turn-attention-to-adding-strength-in-weight-room.html

    Again, who cares about going to some crap bowl except possibly the players b/c they want the free schwag bag from the sponsor of the bowl that comes with it

    It’s Tuesday, one day closer to getting some players the hell out of here and improving the ones that are already there – esp. in a department that so many people complain about the Canes anyway … strength & conditioning & toughness

  28. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    At 12:30 Tuesday afternoon during the Atlantic Coast Conference teleconference, Miami coach and former Penn State tight end and assistant Al Golden made his firmest statement yet that he does not intend to pursue the Penn State head coaching position.

    http://blog.pennlive.com/davidjones/2011/11/al_golden_says_he_will_coach_a.html

  29. avatar
    Canes Fan KB says:

    Luke Kuelchy is a beast and will definitely be playing on Sundays. Dude has 182 total tackles. If BC were playing in a bowl then he would easily eclipse the 200 mark which is insane.

  30. Uchamps says:
    November 22, 2011 at 12:08 PM
    That pressure kick drill that Golden uses in practice is pretty clever. This guy covers every nuance of the game.

    I love this man!

    Go Golden!
    ////////////////////////////////////

    lol, to hell with timeouts, no matter how many another coach has, it has to make the opposing coach say, damyum, wtf are they doing, no need in wasting time, he’s going to make it anyway!

  31. Canez1 says:
    November 22, 2011 at 11:46 AM
    Cal spot on as always…

    GO CANEZ!!!!!
    ////////////////////////////

    Welcome aboard, we only had room for 1 more, u just made it, :)

  32. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    “@SaveUMFootball: I would like to know what SportsByBrooks has to say about this –  Golden: “I’m going to be the head coach at Miami in 2012, that’s correct.””

  33. Six says:
    November 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM
    More importantly – this right here

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2011/11/without-bowl-practices-miami-will-turn-attention-to-adding-strength-in-weight-room.html

    Again, who cares about going to some crap bowl except possibly the players b/c they want the free schwag bag from the sponsor of the bowl that comes with it

    It’s Tuesday, one day closer to getting some players the hell out of here and improving the ones that are already there – esp. in a department that so many people complain about the Canes anyway … strength & conditioning & toughness
    /////////////////////////////////

    Tired of people getting pushed around, lol, but let’s not negate the speed advantage by getting to big. In case most people are over-looking the fact that, irregardless of how big and strong other teams were, we beat em regardless of what they brought.

    Can’t wait for sapp to get into the HOF, just so he can be even more sapped, lol!

  34. Luke Kuelchy is a beast and will definitely be playing on Sundays. Dude has 182 total tackles. If BC were playing in a bowl then he would easily eclipse the 200 mark which is insane.
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    agree, saw Luke play several times for ST Xavier in Cincy, a really good player….good size lb 6’3″ 235 …played lb and safety in HS….always around the ball in games I’ve seen him play

  35. avatar
    SailorCane says:

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    Home > David Jones with The Patriot-News > Penn State football
    Al Golden says he will coach at Miami in 2012
    Published: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 12:29 PM Updated: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 12:48 PM
    By DAVID JONES, The Patriot-News The Patriot-News
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    At 12:30 Tuesday afternoon during the Atlantic Coast Conference teleconference, Miami coach and former Penn State tight end and assistant Al Golden made his firmest statement yet that he does not intend to pursue the Penn State head coaching position.

    My question to him: “Do you have absolutely no interest in the Penn State job?”

    Golden’s answer: “That question has been posed over and over again the last couple of weeks and I stated that I’m happy here, I’m excited about what we’re doing with our program, I’m excited about the recruiting class that we’re putting together and clearly excited about what our team has done.”

    Which sounded like sort of a non-answer to me. So, my response: “Does that mean you absolutely will be the coach at Miami in 2012?”

    His reply: “I’m going to be the head coach at Miami in 2012, that’s correct.”

    Which, if he can be believed, would appear to eliminate the most attractive practical candidate from the PSU running.

    Golden seemed to have the most impetus of anyone to evacuate his current situation as the Nevin Shapiro scandal, which apparently blindsided him, certainly will result in some sort of NCAA sanctions.

    Golden’s Wayne, Pa.-based agent Brett Senior was quoted by south Florida media early this month in a way that suggested he was attempting to restructure Golden’s Miami contract. Senior then clarified that it should not be construed that Golden intended to leave Miami.

  36. Ryan Braun wins the NL MVP – first Jewish player to win the MVP since 1963

    Here’s the Hebrew Hammer with one of his female admirers

    http://www.thesportsbank.net/core/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/braun-and-marissa.jpg

  37. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Great to have the Hebrew Hammer reppin the U

  38. Great to have the Hebrew Hammer repping the Jews

    And with BWash coming back I really hope its a guard…

  39. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Six
    November 22, 2011 at 1:50 PM

    More importantly – this right here

    http://blogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports_college_hurricanes/2011/11/without-bowl-practices-miami-will-turn-attention-to-adding-strength-in-weight-room.html

    Again, who cares about going to some crap bowl except possibly the players b/c they want the free schwag bag from the sponsor of the bowl that comes with it

    It’s Tuesday, one day closer to getting some players the hell out of here and improving the ones that are already there – esp. in a department that so many people complain about the Canes anyway … strength & conditioning & toughness
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    Yep.

    More importantly the players will have an extra week or two to rest their bodies before getting back into the weight room. Some of these guys are so beat up they need a month to recover. But better conditioning will hopefully solve that.

  40. Got to love the media. They all run with the new Al Golden quote saying “we got it, he finally made a declarative statement” then per Tim Reynolds on Twitter:

    Exact Golden quote “”I believe I’m going to be the head coach at Miami in 2012, that’s correct.”

    These people could have all checked the tape/transcript, but that would be too easy…

  41. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    This puts the TD streak in perspective…

    http://www.procanes.com/

  42. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    There’s a play on words somewhere in there, Shwarma5

    Reppin the U and the U’s maybe?

    You’re right about these reporters. Harte to say it, but they need to do their fukn jobs.

    Too bad, tho, Al’s leaving himself plenty of wiggle room there.

    It’s one of two things, he’s putting himself in a better negotiating position and/or he would definitely leave for the right offer from PSU

    Oh well, nothing we can do about it.

  43. For SOOOOOOOOOOOME reason UM vs BC 07′ on ESPN Classic.

    I guess its better than Hail Flutie for the billionth time…..

    Didn’t we get humped this game??? What was so classic about it?

  44. Cal, (While you’re OBVIOUSLY kidding)

    Get in the corner.

    Jacory would’ve needed 37 TD passes to catch Dorsey. Wasn’t ever happening. Maybe if throws 11 on Fri., he can catch Walsh’s single season record…..

  45. Hurri says:
    November 22, 2011 at 4:05 PM
    Cal, (While you’re OBVIOUSLY kidding)

    Get in the corner.

    Jacory would’ve needed 37 TD passes to catch Dorsey. Wasn’t ever happening. Maybe if throws 11 on Fri., he can catch Walsh’s single season record…..
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    He actually only needed 31, but you know how “thee powers that be” work.

  46. smillerdegnan Credit David Jones of The Patriot-News for asking the ? that got #UM coach Golden to say he’ll be the UM coach in 2012
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    Do not forget, the important thing is WHO get’s Golden to say he is staying..ugh??…silly games

  47. Well this sure sums it up (feels real slow lately)…

    RT @Manny_Navarro: #UM QB Jacory Harris: “I just want to be known as one of the greatest, coolest guys ever to come through the University of Miami.”

    Kid rebounded and had a nice senior season. Played within himself. Not perfect, but better than I expected. Deserves his credit. However, still always good for a quote that makes you scratch your head…(would love to know what other great Canes were concerned about being one of the coolest guys). Iman (jsut for old times sake), go get that Raiders onesie, because that is the closest you will get to the NFL

  48. Just got some insight (not inside info) from a friend who works on local radio (in Tally) about the strength & conditioning program at FSU. He told me there are kids coming in as freshman and putting on over 40 lbs in some cases in a very short amount of time. He was happy about it but concerned, made it sound like there are too many kids getting too big too fast.
    Apparently, Jimbo is trying to build a Saban-like program (whatever that means). I never really thought about it until I saw this one player named Mario who comes by my store every now and then. He doesn’t get any real PT just yet but dude was way bigger than when I saw him last season.
    How much does a player really fill out through S&C? What else is contributing to bigger players at certain programs? When someone tells you, “It’s not going to stop until more kids die from that stuff,” it just makes you wonder if there’s any juicing going on or how much. You hear about it all the time in other sports, but you don’t hear about it too much in CF anymore. Guys getting caught for fake weed but PEDs being swept under the rug? Maybe? There has been some strange deaths recently and it’s not from to much peanut butter & jelly.
    Just pondering… thoughts?

    http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2010-08-06/sports/os-florida-state-workouts-20100806_1_nutrition-program-jimbo-fisher-vic-viloria

  49. ^^^^^
    too

  50. avatar
    Cane Fan KB says:

    Won’t be surprised if Golden takes the PSU job. Saddened yes, surprised…no. Coaches will say all day they aren’t taking a job during the season (or near the end in this case), but that has to be taken with a grain of salt. So I ‘ll believe he stays when he is on the sidelines for the start of the 2012 season.

    OAN-i read on a message board that Mark Richt will be stepping down as UGA’s HC at the end of the season. Not sure about the accuracy but if indeed Golden leaves for PSU…..hmmmmm!

  51. Golden aint leaving. UGA is 9-2 and is heading to the SEC championship, Richt aint goin anywhere.

  52. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    shwarma5 says:
    November 22, 2011 at 5:34 PM

    Well this sure sums it up (feels real slow lately)…

    RT @Manny_Navarro: #UM QB Jacory Harris: “I just want to be known as one of the greatest, coolest guys ever to come through the University of Miami.”

    @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@

    LMAO!!!

  53. Cal, didn’t Harris come into the season with 50?

    Dorsey’s got 86, officially….37 to break the record, no?

  54. CapeCoralCane
    November 22, 2011 at 11:49 AM
    Manny_Navarro South Miami CB AJ Leggett, a #UM recruit, said he received ACT score of 22 last week and has a 2.3 GPA. Says good enough to get into #UM 42
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    What’s the minimum required for admission to UM?

  55. from Jr:

    List of kids that will be enrolling in December:

    Set to EE:
    Angelo Jean Louis, ATH
    Taylor Gadbois, OT
    Ereck Flowers, OT
    Gray Crow, QB
    Reggie Northrup, LB
    James Burgess, LB
    Josh Witt, LB
    Raphael Kirby, LB

    TBD but could EE:
    Preston Dewey, QB
    Ricquan Southward, WR

  56. CF KB,

    You said it. Butch Davis broke azz outta here, after I believed all that silk he was spinning.
    And Richt has passed his expiration. He’s good for about a nine wins on average. If we were to go another direction…..It’s gotta be younger and more innovative.

  57. Momentum, I heard AJL is not an EE, and I believe Dewey is confirmed (though not 100%)

  58. Smh, Shwarma . . .

    That’s an old school J12 quote right there.

    The more things change . . .

  59. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    KB – I agree. As a matter of fact I was going to wait and say this until after the game, and I hate to say this, and I hope to God I’m wrong, but I think AG is gone.

    I’m getting exactly the same feeling I got about three days before Brissett made his announcement, when I was getting assured right and left on here that he was going to sign with us. I said for w/e reason I knew he was going to be a turd. Getting the feeling AG is going to Pedi state.

    God I hope I’m wrong.

  60. UMomentum
    November 22, 2011 at 5:57 PM

    from Jr:

    List of kids that will be enrolling in December:

    Set to EE:

    Gray Crow, QB

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc&NR=1

  61. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Also, like the guy on the 7th floor blog said, I’d like to apologize preemptively for pulling some Debbie Downer sh!t. Blame KB – he brought it up.

  62. UMomentum – when you have an actual “training table” like FSU, ‘Bama, LSU, Wisky, etc. has, then the growth for the kids has unlimited potential. Those kids are being fed like livestock and then worked like crazy in the weight room

    To put that in perspective with the Canes – “breakfast” was a foreign concept with these players. Breakfast. I’m not talking about eating 5 to 6 small meals a day, watching caloric/protein/carb intake like the big boy schools do – I’m talking about just eating …… breakfast

    People gotta get their head out from the sand it’s buried in when it comes to the Canes – it’s not the 1980s anymore where the Canes would just show up and play hard/dominate b/c of the speed and possible size to go with that speed. It’s 2011. A whole lot of parity out there and a whole lot more knowledge on training tips, nutrition tips, etc. for college strength/conditioning to use with their kids

    Saban kids = big bad f*ckers … just look at their back 8 in their Defense – forget just the DLineman

    Same with the LSU kids. Same with the Wisky kids. Same with the Stanford kids

    Golden is trying to bring that here b/c it’s been missing for a long time obviously

  63. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Bammer is also real good with the “supplements”

  64. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    ..as well as most SEC schools

  65. Hurri says:
    November 22, 2011 at 5:48 PM
    Cal, didn’t Harris come into the season with 50?

    Dorsey’s got 86, officially….37 to break the record, no?
    //////////////////////////////

    This definitely sounds more accurate, so the administration took precautious measures just to make sure that td record stays intact.

  66. I’ll take the swasey way all day, the hell with feeding these kids all that lab shat. Won’t be long before somebody blows the whistle on that too. What college was it not to long ago where about 10 to 15 players had to be rushed to the hospital during/after a workout because of some all of a sudden illness. I could care less what dumbo is doing up at fsu, if he’s doing all of that and only winning by 4 points because of our own mistakes and plus a re-arranged o-line. don’t seem like it’s some big advantage to me. Same with when we played wisconsin, for that program has, they still almost lost to a bunch of true sophmores.

    I’m not impressed with with all of that borderline crap, oklahoma more than likely is doing it too, they still got debo’ed by us in 2009, so i’ll take the swasey way all day long myself. Keep it clean, and maybe we’ll add a lil more to it, but no need in following those desparate programs trying to establish some type of dominance. In the end, it’s all be over with anyway once we get everybody on line, you just can’t out play a team full of real Miami type players no matter what supplements/p.e.d’s, etc. etc. you taking.

    You can’t coach speed, i got my money on travis benjamin or streeter 1 on 1 against any secondary in college football. All we needed this year was more time in the pocket. Had j12 been behind the same line russell wilson has up in wisconsin, he’d be up for the heisman again.

  67. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    Alabama doesn’t make everyone huge, some of their kids are already pretty big coming out of H.S. Wasn’t Vernon supposed to go to Bama before he chose us? He was a big kid in H.S., the type of guy Saban goes after because he loves bigger players regardless of system.

    Miami has always had smaller guys, and I wouldn’t expect us to start recruiting 6″4′ LBs like Rolando McClain all of a sudden. A 3-4 doesn’t really require huge LBs, it just requires bigger defensive linemen that can eat up more than one blocker. But looking at how big the o-line is and how “good” of a recruiter Golden is rumored to be, we shouldn’t have a problem getting a couple of bigger players.

    We just have to do things like a division 1 program does them; with some damn common sense. Trainers table, nutrition program, good training staff, regimented strength program, etc. None of those things are new, and to be honest it really takes a numbskull to screw up what we once had.

  68. Cal, LSU is huge and fast. I think we can maintain some speed while gaining a bit of muscle mass.

  69. …..Every secondary besides USF’s evidently.

  70. Yea ’cause I mean even the game commentators made note of the fact that Streeter was in man coverage..

  71. CanesCanesCanes
    November 22, 2011 at 6:56 PM
    KB – I agree. As a matter of fact I was going to wait and say this until after the game, and I hate to say this, and I hope to God I’m wrong, but I think AG is gone.

    I’m getting exactly the same feeling I got about three days before Brissett made his announcement, when I was getting assured right and left on here that he was going to sign with us. I said for w/e reason I knew he was going to be a turd. Getting the feeling AG is going to Pedi state.

    God I hope I’m wrong.
    ————————————————————————-

    Just saying,

    I think PSU just fired a President, an AD and a HC? They just hired an ex FBI head to carry an internal investigation.

    How high in their priority list is the hiring of a permanent HC?

    IMO, the status of the football team is an afterthought at this moment.

  72. avatar
    pb(EOTHROH11) says:

    Golden isn’t going anywhere. They are going as far away from anything having to do with Paterno as they can.

  73. 1) Vicky Triponey, who resigned her post as the university’s standards and conduct officer in 2007, confirmed that she sent a 2005 email to then-president Graham Spanier and others in which she expressed her concerns about how Penn State handled discipline cases involving football players. The Wall Street Journal published excerpts from the email on Tuesday.

    Paterno “is insistent he knows best how to discipline his players … and their status as a student when they commit violations of our standards should NOT be our concern … and I think he was saying we should treat football players different from other students in this regard,” Triponey wrote in the Aug. 12, 2005, email.

    2) Two new cases of child sex abuse alleged against Jerry Sandusky have been opened by Children and Youth Services in Pennsylvania.
    The cases were reported less than 60 days ago, and so they are still in the initial stages of the investigation.

    2 new story’s coming out TODAY, surely more to come….whoever wants to get in the middle of this mess should be fitted with a straight-jacked.

  74. The problem with the Canes wasn’t that they weren’t feeding the players that “lab shat” – they just weren’t feeding them something as simple as “breakfast” or making it a priority

    Canes don’t have a proper training table like the big boys do – this I know for a fact from my guy who was a former recruiter for them – it’s not just a supplement thing, it’s a food thing and that’s sad

    And if you didn’t see the way the FSU guys were (and have been) hitting the Cane players for a few years now – I just don’t see how you miss it. They were getting a hell of a lot more push from their DLine, play more physical, etc.

    A lot more went wrong for the Noles in that game than went wrong for the Canes in that game – it shouldn’t have been a 4 point game, they should’ve won by more but didn’t b/c of missed field goal, TDs taken back and bad calls by the refs that sustained Cane drives to help them score

  75. What up family. Just getting a chance to check in. Being doing the FAMILY thing for the last few days. In S. Fla though but leaving in the AM. Got up with some Canes fam while I was here and had a really good time, just not here long enough. Will be back soon though and will try to kick it with EVERYONE next time. 1 Love and I’ll be in touch soon…

    Go Canes!

  76. Good seeing you tonight Sailor and KL. We all got the special Manny Navarro bonus and as well as my other good buddy, my man The Truth. So good too be in Cane friendly waters. Had a ball. You guys are AWESOME. So awesome meeting KL’s sister Jennifer too. Had a ball. We will do it again SOON! wORD!

  77. Very interesting commentary on the whole size/strength issue. I remember my high school (Dunedin) having a good team, not great, then we got a new coach. Guy builds a weight room and gets the players on amino acids and supplements; we then go to state championship games in back to back years. We still loss to Pensacola teams both times. They were just better. Coach leaves for a college program and we go back a good to average team.

    The whole situation reminds me of Pac vs Mayweather. The PEDs might help, but Floyd is just better… naturally. I know a few Cane players, from the 80s-present and I’ve always felt S&C was all natural; guys were just better and played like a family… a mafia family. Some players even said the excessive lifting and weight gain caused more severe injuries. I believe a diet plan is needed but I just don’t like unnatural supplements. As long as UM gets ‘Miami Guys’ and pushes it to the limit, they can dominate. From my experience, at the elite level the physical attributes balance out and the real battle is mental and the real test is measured in will power.

    Thanks for your insight, very helpful.

  78. Six
    November 23, 2011 at 12:14 AM
    The problem with the Canes wasn’t that they weren’t feeding the players that “lab shat” – they just weren’t feeding them something as simple as “breakfast” or making it a priority

    Canes don’t have a proper training table like the big boys do – this I know for a fact from my guy who was a former recruiter for them – it’s not just a supplement thing, it’s a food thing and that’s sad
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    I can’t speak to the new staff, but under RS I saw plenty of our boys hanging out in the dining hall. Javaris always had McDs with him, and Coop was on that Dominoes tip (lived on the same floor during the 06 & 07 seasons).

    Really I think the problem wasn’t that our players weren’t eating, it was WHAT they were eating.

    Also, there is a sheit load of free Muscle Milk products EVERYWHERE inside the Hecht Athletic Center. Like seriously, EVERYWHERE. So if they didn’t take any thats on the staff.

    But most interesting:
    I remember my nutrition professor (spring of ’10) speaking candidly about the way the football team was not eating enough. It made me laugh when AG made all those statements when he was hired about how these boys were so poorly educated in the realm of physical fitness and proper dieting.

  79. I remember seeing Greg Jones all over town in the early 2000’s.. You wanna talk about an eater???

    Fast foods.. Healthy foods.. Dude ate like a horse and worked out more. Fullback size with decent speed.. Plenty of players felt his wrath in college. I even remember the orange bowl against FSU.. Poor Sean.

  80. Miami junior offensive lineman Brandon Washington left no doubt Tuesday that he will return for his senior season in 2012 instead of declaring early for the NFL Draft.

    “Yes, I’m going to be here,” Washington said emphatically, adding “because I see the change in the program, I see the change in the kids and I see how everybody’s buying in. I’ve got a feeling it’s going to be nice next season – if not a 12-0 season, a 10-win season.”

  81. Yeah…..Jones did Amtrak Sean T that time around. He got Meriweather too right? Or was that the big boy from Louisville?

  82. That was the Louisville player that steamrolled Meriweather.

  83. Not louisville .. That was WVU.

  84. HAPPY THANKSGIVING EVE!!! :-D!!!

  85. West Virginia RB Quincy Wilson trucked Meriweather.

  86. U2. JSQ. Sorry I didn’t get to catch up with you while down here. We’ll hook up next time.

  87. Watching a commercial for the upcoming Texas-TAMU game….Just dawned on me that that we be the end of that storied rivalry, and that kinda sucks. I know they’ll always have OU and TCU should offer some great comp’, but still….

    Crazy as it might sound, but I’d be SO upset if someone took FSU away from us. Even if they replaced them with UF. Don’t know what I’d do without em’.

  88. .Just dawned on me that that we be the end of that storied rivalry, and that kinda sucks.

    —Using the word “that” four times in a sentence seems really tacky.

  89. No worries,bg! Keep me posted on your travels down here! Would love to take you and the Mrs. out – but no bonecrushers! :-)

  90. CK – like you said and exactly what I mean, the Cane players weren’t “eating”

    Mickey D’s, Dominos, Popeyes, etc. all that crap isn’t really “eating” – that’s like stuffing or engorging in horrible crap that does a hell of a lot more harm than good. There’s a proper way to eat and an improper way – obviously those cats were doing the improper way … just like there’s a way to put on good weight and a way to put on bad weight. Keep walking around and eating that fast food crap and see just how quickly the bad weight catches up to you or hinders your performance. Just b/c it helps you gain lbs. doesn’t mean it’s the good way

    Of course when you’re someone like an OLineman, you’re gonna eat whatever is put in your path .. they’re just a different breed. But I’d hope they eat a hell of a lot of better stuff instead of killing 12 McRibs or 12 Filet O’ Fish and wash it down with a couple of large fries and 2 milkshakes. Feed them a lot of chicken breasts, fish, steak, get in some sweet potatoes that are mashed, bunch of dinner rolls, rice & veggies, etc.

    I see what you mean with the Muscle Milk coolers in the Hecht – then again, you can’t just always drink those. Your body needs real food with those just supplementing it in order to get quick protein/carbs (depending on if it’s Muscle Milk Light – then just protein with very low sugar and hardly any carbs). 4-6 small meals a day. I drink a couple of Muscle Milk Light during the day while I’m at work and a hell of a lot of water, in between regular meals, to hold me over. How many times do the players go to the dining hall? Some of the big boy schools, the players have their own football dorm type living facilities together that have dining halls within those buildings … they’re not eating with the regular students and they’re not eating the type of food the regular students are getting

    Jimbo has a nutritionist for the football team from what I’ve heard/read. They make sure they know what is going into those kids bodies, how much, the quality, etc.

    You guys see the Alabama all-access that ESPN did, when all the players were getting their body fat and BMI and all that crap checked by the ‘Bama training staff? They’d have the players go sit in that oversized egg looking capsule while they ran tests and the players would rag/bet each other on their bodyfat & weight? They took it as a challenge to get bigger, stronger, etc.

    Just like you said about your nutrition prof, that’s what I’m saying as well

  91. I would be too, Hurri.

    As much as I pick on FSWho, I have always had the time of my life in Tally and in 12 years I have only had 1 bad experience with a criminole [Manhands] and that was in OUR stadium.

    This year in Tally everyone was downright hospitable! We used their RV, their smoker, I got proposed to [JSK = not amused but sucked it up for the food and use of the “facilities”] and everyone in the stadium and on the walk from the Civic Center was nice!

    Crocs on the other hand are just not human. Jortsville should have been included in one of Dante’s circles of he!!.

    I hope the criminoles destroy them on Saturday and take away their last bit of dignity before Urban Liar announces he is the new head coach of the Suckeyes!

  92. bg1906
    November 23, 2011 at 10:18 AM

    West Virginia RB Quincy Wilson trucked Meriweather.
    ———

    Hell yeah. I’ll NEVER forget that. It was brutal. Worse than when Greg Jones steam rolled Sean Taylor.

    That was like the only time i’ve seen Sean puss out against anyone. I think he was afraid of Jones.

    Quincy trucked a lot of people though! I was expecting him t be a good back.

  93. BG

    Always great seeing you and the misses!

    Excellent conversation with The Truth last night

    Having Manny show up and treat us to some good info always frosting on the cake

    CanesFam!

  94. Six

    Crap food – you’re spot on there. Those boys were always eating crap. Even in the caf those boys were downing burgers and fries. Remember how J12 was talking before the season two years ago how he was going to his old neighborhood to eat all this oily food in an effort to put on weight. I didn’t wanna say anything at the time cuz everyone on here was encouraged, but I thought to myself, “These boys don’t know nothin…”

    Muscle Milk – they had a good variety of light and regs. I used to walk in there after working out next door and get one everyday (they thought I was an athlete…SUCKAS)

    Bama All-Access – now thats some legit weight program lol. Imma have to look that ish up.

    Separate Dining Hall – while there are obvious advantages to this, I think one of the things that makes the []_[] special is that the football players are completely integrated into the university community. I’d imagine at other schools some players feel like they’re in an extended football camp.

  95. Bryant McKinnie and Dorsey used to walk out of Wendy’s like they robbed the place – bags of food. They wouldn’t even wait until we got back to Mahoney – they would start going through sandwiches while still in my car like someone had a gun to their heads to eat.

    But on Six’s point about Olinemen – Bryant would eat everything he could get his hands on. I remember Dorsey getting grilled chicken sandwiches.

  96. avatar
    CanesCanesCanes says:

    Crocs on the other hand are just not human. Jortsville should have been included in one of Dante’s circles of he!!.

    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

    jortsville has been added by Dante posthumously as the tenth circle of hell. You start out in a urine soaked meth-cooking trailer, through several more trailer parks, work your way to Devil’s Millhopper then past the idol Teabag statue and finally end up in the nasty “swamp”, overcome by the stench and body odor of screaming, tortured, toothless, overall-wearing-with-no-shirt souls, screaming for their false god, Timmy

    Shudder

    Be good kiddies, or you could end up here

  97. LMAO, Cubed!

    [does Sign of the Cross]

  98. avatar
    PlayaCane aka Rashad says:

    I’m very interested to see who you are going to pick this week, JSQ. FSwho or Floriduh..I know that pick will be painful for u..haha

  99. Haha, Rashad – I wrote it last night and changed it 3 times!

    I ended up doing 11 picks this week. Too many good games to only pick 4!

  100. Make that 12. Decided to add one after hearing my former imaginary husband’s interview with Joe Rose this morning. :-)

  101. The picture of the end of the article will give ‘Canes fans one of two reactions: (1) getting teary-eyed or (2) getting pi$$ed off about what could have been

  102. I would be really interested to know what the nutrition program was like under Coker too, especially in the early years when the guys were a little bigger.

    You could just go back and watch old clips of the teams around 6-7 years ago and tell that was right around the time something went wrong with the nutrition program. We had DTs that looked like TEs and LBs that looked like WRs, guys were just too lean.

    And it really doesn’t take a genius to figure out what you should put in your body for good weight. Steak and potatoes is always a good place to start, and make sure you give them a lot of food heavy in carbs. Junk food is ok in small doses, you cant expect kids not to eat it. And make sure those kids eat raw vegetables, it’ll be important once they get outside in that Florida heat. Guys are super thirsty during practice usually because they eat a lot of junk food or drink a lot of pop, a no-no in very hot weather.

  103. Soda is poison….I’ve prolly only drank that stuff twice in the last five years, and once in the past three.
    Never really liked it when I did drink it. But when you’re a kid, you drink what’s there.
    Can’t overly trust sipping on sumthin that cleans off car batteries

  104. Soda is a fuggin no-no!!!

    No doubt Hurri.

    I don’t eat fast food either.

    I may grab some chick fil a or Arby’s every blue moon but i haven’t eaten wendy’s, bk, mick deez, hardees, Taco bell, etc…. in 5 years. Wait, I was drunk one night like a year ago and decided to grab a whopper jr for some odd reason and i was sick for two days.

  105. avatar
    DaytonCane says:

    I think we’ll start seeing these guys outlast other teams once the nutrition program really takes effect. Got to have those green leafy veggies if you want real, lasting energy late in the game.

    They’ll also help repair your body faster, which younger guys should have no problem with anyway.

    Eating fast food and drinking pop is never good, but I still indulge occasionally and so will the players. Its just about how much you eat and when you eat it. Dont eat that stuff late at night or the night before the game, its terrible to sleep on that stuff. Eat it either in the morning or the middle of the day where you can work it off and put something else into your body afterwards.

    Its all about breeding a culture into the players, just as a culture of half-assedness was bread into the current ones. Once you learn to expect it, it’ll be a “little” easier.

  106. Lol Uchamps you sound like my boy from the Bronx. He had never eaten BK so we took a trip there when they had this Transformers inspired triple whooper. Kid threw it up b4 he finished lol.

  107. Yeah, I’m ignorant to myself and consume a lot of sh!t I shouldn’t, but there are some things I just don’t phuck wit.
    If I’m gonna die off sumthin, its gonna be off sumthin I like.

  108. and the quote of the day goes to…..Hurri LMAO!!!!

    “Can’t overly trust sipping on sumthin that cleans off car batteries”

  109. avatar
    CapeCoralCane says:

    Uchamps…I was drunk one night about a month ago, ate a carrot, and was sick for 3 days. Pretty sure it wasn’t from the carrot though :)

  110. Cape Lmfao!!!

    Kinda like peeps blaming the Mexican water.

    Nothing to do with the 400 coronas, shyt ass tequilla and strange ass u got down on.

    Couldn’t be.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

  111. sgorten Steve Gorten
    #UM coach Al Golden on recruiting: “I’m not a Cadillac shopper. There’s guys out there with no stars I know we’re going to end up taking”

  112. avatar
    Nashvillecane says:

    Canez1
    November 23, 2011 at 2:44 PM
    Cape Lmfao!!!

    Kinda like peeps blaming the Mexican water.

    Nothing to do with the 400 coronas, shyt ass tequilla and strange ass u got down on.

    Couldn’t be.

    GO CANEZ!!!!!

    ^^^^^^

    Pfft

    Just spit out pumpkin pancakes

    Lol

  113. Traffic court blows.

    Federal judges are never late.

    Dude better let me off.

    I wore my hair down and a tight sweater under my suit for extra persuasiveness of my masterful legal argument:

    It wasn’t me.

    I call it the Shaggy defense.

  114. New blog up

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