Super [Canes] Bowl Party Recipes
With the Super Bowl upon us, and a staggering EIGHT ‘Canes involved in Sunday’s game, this is the time to invite all your crazy ‘Cane friends over for a party. While there are many game day foods you can choose from, I love themed parties and what better way to celebrate than by cooking something authentic to the city of each team, as well as the host city? With that, I give you Frank’s Cioppino, Ray’s Crabcake Sliders, and Ed’s Crab Au Gratin (gotta give some extra Ravens love here for the Louisiana boy).
Ed’s Knock Out Cajun Crab Au Gratin
Ingredients:
1lb lump crab meat- 4 tablespoons of unsalted butter
- 4 tablespoons of flour
- 1 small onion, diced
- 1 green pepper, diced
- 1 rib of celery, diced (combined, you want about 2 cups of the last 3 ingredients to make the Cajun trinity)
- 3 cloves of garlic, minced
- 1 green onion, chopped
- 1 large brick or 2 small bricks of GOOD cheddar cheese, freshly grated (to yield about 4 cups)
- 1 quart of half and half
- ¼ teaspoon of freshly grated (use a microplane) nutmeg
- 1/3 teaspoon of sea salt
- ½ teaspoon of Creole seasoning
Directions
Preheat oven to 400 degrees. You’ll need 1 circular or square baking dish, or you could do smaller individual sized dishes if you are doing this as a dinner party as opposed to a free-for-all serve yourself party, spray them down with non-stick spray and set aside.- Melt the butter and sauté the trinity in a large pot or a deep skillet. When nearly wilted, add minced garlic.
- Add the flour and stir.
Add half and half, mix well. Cook on medium until you have a thick white sauce. Should take 10 minutes or so. Keep stirring constantly or it will burn. - Turn off heat, mix in seasonings, cheese, and ½ of your green onions (you will use the rest for garnish). Fold in crab meat.
- Bake 10-12 minutes, then turn the oven onto broil for a couple more to brown the cheese on top. Don’t go anywhere though – you need to cover this dish like Ed would a Pats receiver – or it will burn before you know it.
- Garnish with the chopped green onions, serve warm with French bread, and after several bites, understand what it must feel like to have Ed Reed knock you off your feet.
Frank the Firetruck’s Cioppino with Garlic Cheese Sourdough Bread
Ingredients:
Stock
2 15 ounce cans of crushed tomatoes with juice- 1 medium yellow onion, chopped
- 1 cup white wine
- 1/3 cup of olive oil
- 3 garlic cloves, minced
- 1 green pepper, chopped
- 1 hot pepper of choice, chopped (depending on how much of Frank’s fire you can handle)
- 1 teaspoon of thyme
- 2 teaspoons of basil (fresh is always better here)
- 1 teaspoon oregano
- ½ teaspoon paprika
- ½ teaspoon of cayenne pepper
- Salt and pepper to taste
Seafood: you can really make this dish your own depending on what you like. Here are some commonly added ingredients, you can mix and match
1 lb peeled, deveined shrimp- 1 dozen scallops
- 1 dozen clams
- 1 dozen mussels
- 1 cod fillet (deboned and cubed)
- 1 lb Dungeness crab
- 1 dozen prawns
Garlic cheese bread:
- 1 loaf of sourdough bread. Try your grocer’s bakery or Panera.
- 1 stick of butter.
- 2 tablespoons of minced garlic
- 1 teaspoon of oregano
- 2 cups 6 cheese Italian-blend cheese
Directions:
Break out the lazy chef’s BFF: the Crockpot!!! - Place all ingredients but the seafood in there. Cook on low for 6 hours.
- Check the seasoning and adjust your paprika/cayenne/salt/pepper as needed.
- An hour before serving, add the seafood and turn the crock pot on high.
- 15 minutes before serving, make your compound butter with the garlic and oregano.
- Slice the sourdough in half, spread with compound butter, top with cheese.
- Place on non-stick tin under broiler for a few minutes until the cheese is barely browned.
- Let cool for a few minutes and then slice into 1 inch pieces to serve with bowls of the Cioppino.
Ray’s “Greatest of All Time” Crab Cake Sliders
Ingredients:
The Crab Cake:
2 Tbsp. butter- 1 rib celery , finely chopped
- 1 small yellow onion , finely chopped
- 1 green pepper, finely chopped
- 1 ½ pounds lump crabmeat
- 1/2 cup mayonnaise
- 1/8 tsp. cayenne pepper
- 1 1/2 tsp. kosher salt
- 1/4 tsp. freshly ground black pepper
- 2 1/2 cups panko bread crumbs, divided
- 1/2 cup all-purpose flour
- 3 eggs , lightly beaten
- 1/2 cup canola oil
The Bread and Toppings:
A dozen Hawaiian dinner rolls- 2 tablespoons of butter
- 1/2 cup mayonnaise
- 1 1/2 Tbsp. lemon juice (from about 1/4 lemon)
- 1 Tbsp. chili sauce
- 1/4 tsp. kosher salt
- 1/8 tsp. freshly ground black pepper
- A dash of Old Bay Seasoning
- 6 strips of maple bacon
Directions:
- Ray likes to bring the heat, so set your oven to medium and heat the butter in a large skillet. Add the celery and onion and green pepper. Heat butter in a large skillet over medium heat. Add celery, green pepper, and onion, and cook, stirring often, until soft and golden, about 10 minutes; set aside to cool.
- In a large bowl, gently fold together crab, mayonnaise, cayenne, salt, pepper, and onion mixture. Add 1 cup bread crumbs and stir just until combined. Shape crab mixture into 12 (3-inch) patties, using about 1/3 cup of the mixture for each. Transfer to a sheet tray.
Put flour, eggs, and remaining 1 1/2 cups bread crumbs into 3 separate wide, shallow dishes. Working with 1 patty at a time, dredge in flour, then egg, then bread crumbs, shaking off excess each time. Dredge once more in egg, then bread crumbs.- Heat oil in a large, deep skillet over medium heat until very hot but not smoking, about 2 minutes. Arrange 6 patties in skillet and cook, flipping once, until deep golden brown and hot throughout, 6 to 8 minutes. Transfer to a paper-towel-lined plate and set aside. Repeat with remaining patties.
- Pop 6 slices of bacon in microwave and cook to preferred doneness. Cut or break each slice of bacon in half
- To make spicy mayo: In a small bowl, stir together all ingredients until combined.
- Meanwhile, working in 2 batches, melt 1 tablespoon butter in a large skillet over medium-high heat. Brown cut sides of 6 rolls until toasted and golden, 1 to 2 minutes; transfer to a plate and repeat with remaining butter and rolls.
- Spread a bit of spicy mayo, to taste, on each bun, then top with bacon, lettuce and crab cakes.
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Mary u making me hungry with the food pictures. Go Canes beat NC State and Go Ravens.
Nice first, Terrance! Orange or green?
Go Ravens! A lot of good food!
Lol, don’t say that around Mike, mom!
[ducks]
Something significant news happened with Denver Kirkland. Looking like a no go for him and I think it’ll affect Matthew Thomas in a negative way. Not a good look for us at all
Marino’s Achilles Comeback Game vs the Pats in 94′=The Greatest Thing Anybody’s Done Ever.
Game on the line…3rd & like 6…All the man needs is a little to keep the drive alive…
All the world is like, “Play it safe Dan!! Just pick up what you need…”
Then Dan was like, “Da fuk outta here…I am The Right Arm of God. I’m changing this play.”
Next thing you know…40 sumthin yards over the top, to Irving Fryar.
Still the greatest Phin game I’ve ever known, seeing as how I don’t remember the stuff from the eighties.
BG, I saw on twitter about his step-father saying he won’t be a Cane.
Orange works for me JSQ. As far as recruiting goes when the players names are signed I will be see what they can potentially do. I have seen 5 star busts and 2 or 3 star be all American.
Terrance Sullivan says:
January 31, 2013 at 8:56 PM
Orange works for me JSQ. As far as recruiting goes when the players names are signed I will be see what they can potentially do. I have seen 5 star busts and 2 or 3 star be all American.
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I agree with this 100%. Look at Johnny Manziel for instance. I wish they would go back to the pre rivals star ranking system.
The chicken littles are in full effect tonight! Lol.
It will alllll work out.
Here, have a crabcake slider.
GO ‘CANES!!!
Also let me say again. I’m an animated person when I debate or have a position on something. It does not mean I’m freaking out out or having a SPAZZ attack. I just have strong positions and I defend them with zeal. THAT IS ALL!
Sh!t or get off the pot. We don’t have enough schollies to screw around. Can’t wait around until signing day to see if somebody will or won’t sign, when another position of need is willing to commit. Ice will get over it, do lets not get our panties in a bunch.
I heard Kirkland didn’t have the grades?
Hollywood.
FALSE
Hmmm…
Wierd to pull a scholly like that. Especially with Thomas still in the mix. Something smells funny.
Hollywood – read my post. Kid was flat out asked to silent commit. He wouldn’t do it. Barrow knows when something’s up. He had EVERY opportunity to come on board. He chose to make us wait and the train left the station. His bad. He had his chance. End of story. Anybody says anything else and they’re just pushing an anti-Golden agenda.
You’re either with us or against us.
I hear ya CCC. I wasn’t too stoked about him in the first place but the package deal with Thomas woulda been nice. I trust AG. His staff knows more about this sorta thing than I do.
But when you have hysterical bishes like Manny Navarro fanning the flames, all kinds of shyte gets put out there. If he was a decent journalist and wasn’t so incompetent, he wouldn’t react like a hysterical teenager having her first period, and he’d calmly get the facts and publish them, rather than go off half cocked.
Remember, this is the guy that basically accused one of our baseball coaches of being a drug pusher with only a tiny shred of iffy handwritten information.
Kirkland is a KID. Ice Harris assured Golden Denver will be a Cane. That should’ve been enough. Trust Ice on this one, Kirkland is a kid. That doesn’t mean you can’t still make your contingency plans to protect yourself but to flat out pull the offer in the 11th hour just doesn’t seem right. Especially to a kid at the premier school in the middle of your recruiting ground. The game is foul but you do have to play it. Not like we are a national recruiting power. We have to win in our backyard and doing something like this makes it hard to win in Miami now and in the future. I promise you this will have a negative impact and not just at BTW.
bg – I call bullshit. If the “kid” can’t look Barrow in the eyes and say what’s up, then we can’t wait around. Too bad. I have no sympathy for him or ice. He had his chance and he blew it.
Bout time
http://acc.xofan.com/Miami/miami-prepared-to-file-suit-against-ncaa-time-served-is-enough/
I can’t agree with cubed enough on this. I know we will never know the actual facts but after today or tomorrow coaches are not allowed to contact recruits – Silent Period I believe. If he did not want to silent commit screw him.
Join us or get your ass kicked by us, Train is leaving and if you don’t want to get on. Have a nice F#$^EN Day!
Go Canes!
Also agree with Cubed, time to move on …times are changing, enough of the hat’s dance drama…..send a message loud and clear to the 2014 class…..All I needed to know from Ice Harris was his reaction,first he txt Uncle Luke and then Manny, not very mature from his part.
Spot on article, times are changing….
http://miami.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1467010
Plenty of great players in Dade. Broward, and Palm Beach to get butt hurt over a couple of players or even a couple of schools. Either you down with the U or you are not.
I have no problems with the stance. My problem is with the lack of communication on both sides, the execution and timing by UM, and the fact that it happened to a top local kid. No way that doesn’t have a negative affect locally and locally is where we for sure have to wIn and this will make what’s already been hard in recent years harder. If this was an OOS kid or some school we never recruit THAT’S different but it was not, it was the premier school in the city right now against a coach and program with influence in Miami. Just not a smart move PR wise and a breach of trust and in recruiting TRUST is everything.
Not to beat this to death, but I have been outraged at the treatment coach Goins has gotten from Manny Navarro and the Herald, practically calling the guy a drug pusher, literally calling him out as a “runner”. This was printed TWICE by Manny in his blog articles.
Now it looks like the Herald is backtracking, saying he may be cleared: http://hrld.us/Xqyp81
If this is indeed the case, then the Herald will be needing to pony up some cash. How do you get your reputation back? Where do you go to get that back? How do you unring the bell?
Disgusting
CanesCanesCanes says:
February 1, 2013 at 9:07 AM
Not to beat this to death, but I have been outraged at the treatment coach Goins has gotten from Manny Navarro and the Herald, practically calling the guy a drug pusher, literally calling him out as a “runner”. This was printed TWICE by Manny in his blog articles.
Now it looks like the Herald is backtracking, saying he may be cleared: http://hrld.us/Xqyp81
If this is indeed the case, then the Herald will be needing to pony up some cash. How do you get your reputation back? Where do you go to get that back? How do you unring the bell?
Disgusting
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Seems like lately Manny has been going all Susan on us.
WTF Dude? We know your better than that.
No matter what the reason, this kid and his great leader didnt hold up their end of the bargain and this staff is no longer playing that game, ESPECIALLY 6 days before nsd.
Major props to them. This bullshyt is not tolerated anywhere else in the big leagues and it was beyond time to cut it here.
These sofla pu$$ies play these games because second rate programs like us and Louisville etc. have allowed it.
I dont care who the recruit was or what school he was from. UM is no longer led by incompetent fools and is no longer the recuiting doormat in its own backyard.
Praise baby jesus.
Listening to anything a coach says about his player , who he will protect at all costs, is a silly mistake. They lie everyday all day about this stuff. The kids also talk shit for the same reasons to make themselves look good. Its never “my grades blow and I am a moron”. It is always ” they didnt show me enough love” or “I wasnt feeling them anymore” or some dumb shyt like that.
Its a joke.
There is way more to this story than just us pulling this kids scholly lazt minute. Believe that.
Manny trying to be the head retard of sofla media just doesnt get it and gives this whacko an open forum to bash away when he knows full well that UM cant and wont return fire.
Way to go Manuel! You should be proud.
Whatever the reason, this kid is ass out because of himself. His guidance was horrible. Not our fault.
Dont feel bad whatsoever.
Recruiting is big time my friend and you tried to dick around your hometown “dream school” and homey dont play that anymore.
Take care and cut ur hair.
One more HUGE shout to this staff for making the correct decision here for this program, no matter how hard it was.
Our balls have finally descended back where they should be, where they were when this program was one of the best. No more cowering to kids or other schools. Its time to turn the corner.
Battered wife syndrome is still strong in some. F that.
These coaches and kids needed to be put on notice and they were. Cacker and Dent have left the building.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Did anyone catch Ice on Joe Rose this morning? I swear, I got in the car just as they finished, I have no idea what he said. But remember, Golden can’t say a WORD about why they dropped him, so they get to rip him and he has to stay silent.
I figure the guy said something to someone about stringing them along, and it got back to the Canes.
Even so, if they knew he wasn’t going to commit, then ignore him and move on, rather than make the show like this. Now if Thomas chooses the Noles, the excuse will be Kirkland, when before it would have been straight up.
Yep. Take a stand. Set the ground rules. Stick to it.
Kid had every chance to go to his dream school. He was talked to twice in one day by grown ass men and had every chance to declare.
Bottom line: this ish works BOTH ways and we can’t be held hostage. I know for a fact that AG and his staff treat HS players and coaches with great respect. Which is way more than they get back.
Get on board or get run over.
I agree with every word C1 just said. This kid was going to ditch us and this decision is proof this program is bigger than any one player or stupid ass high school coach who obviously has sour grapes.
It’s pathetic some idiot can come on the air and talk such nonsense.
BG how is the timing bad on our part and not on this kids part?
I dont get it.
Unless you just totally believe everything he and Harris are saying without even knowing the other side of this story and running with that. Seems kind of ridiculous, dont it?
6 days to nsd and we get a “your in my top 3 lets see what happens”
Fuk that.
There is more to this story than just us telling this kid he must commit now or else. That is a fact.
But to blame UM for the timing and put none of it on him or his corny azz coach seems silly to me.
Ur in the wrong corner my friend.
Manny is turning into the largest cumrag in sofla, which is hard to do.
Maybe he should just stick to slutping hs coaches and leave the big boy stuff alone.
Sad because I always liked him. He fell off the wagon sometime ago and now just swings at anything he could to keep himself relevant.
Sad…
GO CANEZ!!!!!
bg1906 says:
January 31, 2013 at 10:43 PM
Also let me say again. I’m an animated person when I debate or have a position on something.
Sooo, which one is you?
I get to be Bugs Bunny!
JSQ will get to be tweety, since there are no girl characters on there.
splarfy will be Wile E Coyote, since he always seems to have some crazy scheme to steal the FIRST from me.
http://getopinionated.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/looneytuneswallpaper1024.jpg
There are no Ed Pope’s at the Herald anymore! Always tough but fair…a real pro!
Never listen to anyone fool enough to call himself Ice.
Thats all I’ve got to say about that.
There’s gotta be more to this whole story but we won’t hear anything from the coaches until after nsd. I’m hoping AG has an ace up his sleeve and didn’t want to risk an open scholly on a guy sitting on the fence. I’m assuming Kirkland’s opening has already been filled.
What kills me about the Ice thing is he gets mad and calls Uncle Luke. WTF???
GO CANES!!!
Ferman nailed it. This kid and his Top 3 got help from us making it a Top 2. Ice Harris should have STFU and helped his kid overcome his mistake instead of looking like a damn fool and making the situation much worse:
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Yesterday we took a moment to usher in that annual ritual affectionately called the Fog of War. We talked about how uncomfortable of a place it can be in these final days of recruiting, when the pressure gets amped up, when dreams are found and dreams are lost.
When you enter the Fog of War, you see things that you never thought might be imaginable. The most bizarre things in the world happen when grown men who wear different colors are running out of time in their pursuit of the 18-old-kids that they are paid handsomely to try to recruit to their schools. The most bizarre things happen when those kids, smack in the middle of this thick condensation, find out that they really are not equipped to be there no matter how glamorous it may seem.
Booker T. Washington offensive lineman Denver Kirkland was recruited by the University of Miami for almost a year. That meant he had 300-plus opportunities to wake up in the morning, decide he wanted to be a Hurricane and call Coach Al Golden and tell him that he wanted to join The U.
Deep down, apparently that is what he really wanted to do. But either because he was guided to do differently, or got caught up in all of the attention that swirls around recruiting long before this thick, thick fog hits, Kirkland opted to play the recruiting game.
That meant former Canes defensive back coach Wesley McGriff flying into town to woo him to Mississippi. It meant Jimbo Fisher coming in to pitch Florida State. It meant former Miami Head Coach Randy Shannon coming into his home representing Arkansas. And on and on and on.
Through all this time, Miami assistant Micheal Barrow persistently did his job. Barrow must have had 100 phone conversations with Kirkland. Kirkland had an open invite to head out to Miami on unofficial visits whenever he desired. Coach Al Golden was always available to talk to him. This went on for almost a year. Kirkland had an offer from Miami to attend Miami.
This week, that offer disappeared when Miami decided to move on and apparently give that scholarship to a young man from another school who valued it more, that was ready to commit to being a Hurricane. Kirkland was informed he no longer had a committable offer and was wished the best of luck in attending one of the other schools.
And in a bizarre twist that only the Fog of War can inspire, Booker T Coach Tim Harris became upset and so did many others around him and in the community.
A Canes fan texts me at 8:27 p.m. He is standing inside Houston’s restaurant in North Miami Beach talking to the famed Luther Campbell. During that conversation, Campbell received a text from Harris to call him. Campbell was upset as an extension of Harris being upset. He explained how Kirkland had received an ultimatum to commit to Miami or the Hurricanes were moving on and when Kirkland chose not to commit on the spot that Miami had moved on.
I am not sure it all played out quite that way. But things can get twisted very easily in the Fog of War.
More than likely, Miami received a wave of silent commits the past few days and filled up its class, maybe with the exception of a scholarship on hold for Kirkland’s teammate, Matthew Thomas, one of the recruiting year’s top targets. It couldn’t play this recruiting game any longer.
This kind of thing happens all the time in recruiting. I am not sure why there was so much commotion stirred on Thursday night over it. But I do think it was the game changer that everyone needed to have happen, both UM and the local prep community.
Miami has been in a weakened state lately with the NCAA fiasco, the losses, the failed regimes, etc. etc. As I said yesterday, South Florida has become a recruiting free-for-all. The SEC schools are attacking the Miami base relentlessly. Schools like Louisville are camped out in South Florida. People feel like they can play around and commit to the Hurricanes whenever they want, that there is no urgency to do so.
I said yesterday that something had to give at some point, having no idea that the give might come just a few hours later. You simply can’t build recruiting classes this way, where you are sitting there five days before signing day with seven open spots because recruits, many of them local, want to keep you hanging because they are either addicted to all the attention or don’t plan on ever committing at all.
That’s destructive to the local program and through the hard times that allegiance appears to be something that has been a little lost for Miami. To become successful again, this is an understanding that Golden will have to forge with the local coaches and players and maybe, just maybe, Denver Kirkland discovering Miami was now out of room for him will be the change of events that alters the future.
My guess is that when the dust settles, Coach Harris, a great man who served on the other side of the fence as a trusted aide of Randy Shannon, will realize that he probably is mad because he didn’t guide Kirkland the right way, if attending Miami really was the end game.
What was Al Golden supposed to do? Wait forever? The resources that go into recruiting kids are enormous even when they are home. Even with a local kid, an hour of Barrow’s time is a valuable commodity when you are trying to put the finishing touches on a recruiting class. Were Miami coaches supposed to get on their knees and beg an 18-year-old kid, Kirkland or anybody else, to commit already? This is far from the blueprint taught in Recruiting 101.
Urban Meyer isn’t going through this at Ohio State.
Mack Brown isn’t at Texas. Heck at Texas, their 2014 recruiting class will be almost complete by March. Kids and their coaches in Texas understand that if you want to be a Longhorn and you get an offer, you better accept quickly and then shut down recruiting or else some other young man will grab that spot.
After what went down on Thursday, the word will be out that this is the case at Miami too, and it was a message that the Hurricanes badly needed delivered whether it was intentional or not.
None of what is going on in South Florida this year makes sense, but this is what the Fog of War does, it takes nonsensical things and brings them to life.
Yes something had to give and it did and now, in the future, people will know that even if they are from Miami that those Hurricane scholarships, worth about $250,000 each, won’t sit there forever. You can’t run a major college football program the other way anymore. Not now, not in these very competitive times.
I am not sure whether Kirkland will attend Florida State or Ole Miss or Arkansas. But I am sure that one way or the other, Thursday’s events created long-lasting memories that will benefit Golden and the Hurricanes and also the future generations of young kids that come up through the Miami community and want to play for Miami.
Treat those Miami scholarships for what they are, golden tickets to a free education at one of the top private schools in America, a pathway into one of the greatest institutions and legacies in college football history.
Take that golden ticket when you can because if you don’t someone else will.
It was a difficult night for Denver Kirkland, his coaches and his fans. But it was inevitable for things to unfold this way.
The ending: Not sure. I have learned that in this Fog of War, anything goes. Kirkland probably lands at Florida State, if the Noles don’t run out of scholarships too.
I wouldn’t even be shocked if in these final hours of recruiting, Miami suddenly finds itself with one open scholarship and there is a peace offering of sorts and Kirkland ends up at Miami and everybody lives happily ever after, just like a fairy tale. Maybe Matthew Thomas, his teammate, stands by his side.
But please don’t ask me to put a percentage on that.
If you trusted Golden before then you gotta trust him even more now.
We’ll get the status of Texas or Alabama where it is more prestigious to spend your senior year of high school being a recruit to those schools than playing the hat games. Not there yet for all the kids but this move might be looked back on as a step in the right direction.
And if we are all being animated, then I’m Aquaman!
Whomever said Golden knows more about this than we do…
AMEN.
This guy has not given us any reason to doubt him on the recruiting front.
Outie, if I’m anyone animated, I’m Smurfette.
Bringing Mrs. Delray back for good luck.
PB llmao I was thinking the same thing about that nickname.
Hollywood there is more…but I think it is best to just take the word of a recently butt hurt coach and his kid.
That seems prudent.
Sperman is a misinformed moron but he is spot on with that piece. No matter how much it pains me to give him any credit for anything.
DZ, Golden has gone out of his way since day one to get back in good graces with all of the local coaches and communities in Sofla to make up for the previous bumbling fools mistakes but then decides to railroad a top recruit and his coach, last minute, under the advisement of coaches Coley, Barrow and Cristobal, arguably three of the top recruiters in the area for many years.
That makes perfect sense, no?
Fug off.
The Phoenix is rising. Seek shelter [in my best ultimate warrior voice]
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Anyone calling Puke for anything is no friend of UM and trash in my book.
Lol at ANYONE admitting that!!!
Typical Sofla nonsense and agendas.
Gotta love it.
Poor little kids and coaches…
GO CANEZ!!!!!
JSQ says:
February 1, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Outie, if I’m anyone animated, I’m Smurfette.
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Hmm, a cute little blonde, and a bunch of men with blue balls.
Yep, that works!
Ferman is spot on with that one.
Also, never EVER talk to the press or make public declarations when you are in a highly emotional state and especially when you don’t have all the facts.
I don’t have all the facts but I know one thing, AG is a professional and would not shoot himself in the foot. This will blow over. I have every confidence that our staff has handled this properly.
DZ8 says:
February 1, 2013 at 10:00 AM
And if we are all being animated, then I’m Aquaman!
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Aquaman is the most maligned superhero.
Jeff Dunham – “So, he can breath underwater and talk to fish. He has all the powers of Spongebob Squarepants.”
Frank Calliendo – “Meanwhile, back at the Hall of Justice, Aquaman makes a peanut butter and jelly sandwich because he can’t do #$%!”
But hey, if we get to pick our character from any anitmated source, I will move from bugs bunny to Roger Rabbit. Have you SEEN Jessica Rabbit?
THUMP THUMP!
THUMP THUMP!
HALLELUJAH C1, Cx3, Pb, DZ
AGREED
We’ll see what happens. If it doesn’t have a negative effect, I’ll GLADLY recant, retract, and apologize. Until then I believe what I believe
LOL@CanesOutsider… Great call.
If they gotta play the hat game they gotta realize they might not win.
Right now it doesn’t look pretty but that is because, as mentioned previously, the only ones that can talk right now are the “victims” in this. Canez1 is on point with his references to Cristobal n Cooley n Golden in their expertise in this part of the game. I don’t Coley well but trust in Golden and Cristobal in doing this the right way.
Someone earlier said we should’ve ignored him and just kept quiet but then if he did pick us and we didn’t have a spot we’d be jerks for leading him in. No win situation right now but I trust next Wednesday will be like festivus for the rest of us!
Sperman is a misinformed moron but he is spot on with that piece. No matter how much it pains me to give him any credit for anything.
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My thoughts exactly
Bg no one is saying it may cost us those two kids but the point is Golden is showing local kids that for the first time in over a decade, we won’t be jerked around.
He is once again adding value to our brand. A scholarship from the University of Miami has to mean something again, it hasn’t in forever.
I applaud Golden regardless of the outcome. Are you seriously telling me this kid doesnt know where he wants to go to school at this point?
Give me a break.
Be a man, respect the men asking you, say yes or no and quit being a fat ass primadona. You ain’t that good and we don’t need you that bad.
I do not blame Golden one bit for pulling Kirkland’s scholarship offer because he has been playing games. Oftentimes schools lotion these kids and fill their heads up. One player will not break this football program and even if Miami doesn’t land a few others this class because of it then so be it. These kids need to learn that while it will be nice to have them, they are not bigger than the program and Hurricanes football will be fine without them. He had every chance to be a Cane and he just kept dicking around to the point where Golden and Co. grew tired of the games. Clearly they didn’t think he talent level/prospect status and ranking warranted him playing this game with the team, coaches, and fans. Whatever happens as a result of this Miami will be fine in the long run. One recruit will not make or break a program (except maybe Duke Johnson).
This is why I posted recipes before NSD. I have no concern about being first at the expense of the facts. I think this is all silly.
Recruiting is just not my thing. Too much drama.
I like kids like Duke, the sure things that are allllllll about the []_[], just like I was from day 1 that I received my scholarship offer.
No games.
You guys are amazing. We pull an offer from Kirkland who goes to BTW which has been good to us, yet Keith Bryant has played MAD games IN DELRAY BEACH and yet his offer still stands…AMAZING!
pb
My point is that is it worth the backlash we surely will receive to prove a point? Again, my outlook would be 100% different if this was an OOS kid or some rinky dink program, but do this with the top local school is bad business. This is strictly my opinion and this will hurt us going forward IMO. If it doesn’t then I was wrong, not the first time and most assuredly not the last. But as of RIGHT NOW, I feel how I feel and I think we f’d this up!
I like Golden and crew, I really do, but they don’t walk on water and are not above criticism or making mistakes. I see this as a mistake and until otherwise proven, that is what I’m standing on.
You want a slot for a DL, then pull Bryant’s offer. No one would’ve said a word!
Also remember Golden also saying even just last week in his interview with Joe Rose, kids here like to wait so we have to be patient for them to yes and we will…What happened to that??? f
BG, check your inbox.
I hit you back
I agree they can wait but there is a time to man up and help the program you’re supposed to be committed to.
Top 3? Really? 6 days before NSD, the head coach, OC and recruiting coordinator are standing in front of you asking where you stand and you say Top 3?
F that, time to move on, no matter what the outcome.
And we don’t know what’s going on with Bryant despite all his preening, so using him as an example isn’t right. Additionally, he’s at a position of need, Kirkland is not.
My message to Kirkland is this-I’ve seen McKinney play and you son, are no McKinnie.
Get on or move aside.
Go Canes!!!!
Why would they pull a dt scholly when that is what they were looking for and the kid is still in play? That doesn’t make sense.
Kid has been a direspectful dildo but when you are in desperate need, all the rules change.
There is being patient and then there is being made a fool of and caught with your cack in your hand on nsd.
Huge difference.
6 days from nsd and being told you have a 33% chance is a slap in the face and you deserve what you get.
This class is basically full. No room for nonsense this late in the game. Kid kept playing and he is ass out. No one to blame bu this staff…oh wait a minute.
That being said… 6 can take a shat on uncle Al’s desk this evening and still be welcomed with open arms.
An OL playing games with a team that is OL strong and heavy. Not a great idea Iceman.
Good old sofla guidance.
Just the facts of life.
Tough break kid, but as was mentioned above, no one is above the welfare of this program and that means you.
Iceman and dudes like him are part of the part of the problem down there.
Calling Puke for advice is all I need to know about that dude.
Trash…
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Bg if the kid is a game changer we have to be patient. I.e. Stacey coley, Alex Collins, Matt Thomas. But we have plenty of OLs. Can’t wasting time and a scholly waiting on some fool to make up his mind. So what he is a high school all American. Next year he will be just another college freshman.
The rules aren’t the same for everybody. It’s a harsh reality. But welcome to the world, Kid. Best of luck on whatever campus you end up at.
In the long run it’ll work out for him. He will still get an education if he chooses to do so. Still will play football. And still will be swimming in that college poon.
Just had a conversation with a guy I respect and trust in all things UM. He said don’t sweat it. Trust the staff…I will!
I still feel this looks bad and the timing is horrible but he said its not as it seems and not as bad as it looks so I’ll just hope this doesn’t have the negative ramifications I think it could have.
Good God, bg. The kid would be going to UM if he would have looked coach in the eye and said yes. He didn’t have to publicly announce and he could have still played his little hat game. We can’t have everybody keeping us on hold, and there is a forced rank priority order. He wasn’t as high on the list and he was given the choice to firm up his commitment. He wouldn’t.
He was treated with respect. What more can you ask?
Also why is it automocally assumed that AG, Barrow, et al, mishandled this, when they can’t even respond and it’s assumed the HS coach and kid are blameless.
How about maybe THEY mishandled it. That sounds a million times more likely to me. It’s called overplaying your hand.
C1
So because Keef is at a position of need he can throw egg on our face (which is highly possible)? No one’s bigger than the program right? Just asking? What’s the difference? You want to make a stand, then why not tell ALL of them that are PLAYING the game, hey commit and go public or its off! Grace, Collins, Thomas, Bryant, Bostwick??? None of them were given the ultimatum, what’s the difference? YES this has happened at other places, happens all the time, hell USC just did it to a 4 star DE. I get it, I follow this stuff closely and for many years now, AND there ARE usually bad ramifications when this happens. How many times have we seen coaches say, SO AND SO SCHOOL is NOT welcomed here. THAT is my concern. Its bigger than any one player. Its the overall outlook of what it means to recruiting in Miami that is/was my concern.
You want to make stand THIS is how you do it, you put cases on ALL OF THEM! LOL
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkNDQD0gkAU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KrNpxODiDA
^^^Better Quality
Uh, cuz that worked out for him real well. Russian mafia Swiss cheesing him. lol
Good flick, tho
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/
I thought that Alabama wouldn’t get anyone from down here, after Saban burned bridges. But in the end, the opportunity outweighs the hurt feelings.
Miami will still haul in 2014 top prospects, because they will want to be part of a rising rocket.
pb(EOTHROH12) says:My message to Kirkland is this-I’ve seen McKinney play and you son, are no McKinnie.
exactly…McKinney is from S.Jersey…they do play football in other parts of the country…particularly OL
How do u know Keith didn’t already let the staff know he’s on board so their letting him play the game?
DK and his dad said in an interview a while back they would inform the coach’s of the school he chooses on 2/1 so as not to leave them in a bind. He did not do that and was cut loose.
The staff already knows where they stand with the majority of their top targets still on the board. O-line is not a major priority with what we have now and what is coming next year.
Al Golden sent a message yesterday….
O-line prospects can be so tough to determine coming out of highschool. Seantrell was supposed to be the next Mt. McKinnie but he’s really just become a serviceable right tackle.
Also, thanks for the recipes JSQ, My girlfriend really wants to try the crabcake one.
Hollywood, I made the crabcake one for the Maryland tailgate in 2010. Since it was a breakfast tailgate most of them did not get eaten so I gave them to KL to take home to Sailorcane. I heard they were gone by the end of the night so I think that gives the recipe some street cred!
Also, even if you don’t want to mess with the Cioppino, my garlic cheese bread recipe with the compound butter is amazing. If she melts the stick of butter in the microwave for about 45 seconds and then mixes in the fresh garlic and oregano, then spreads the bread with it, it is sooooo good.
Also, the crabmeat au grautin was served at my best friend’s wedding reception in New Orleans. It is unbelievable. If you like seafood, butter, and cheese, you will looooove it!
CapeCoral.
I’ll say it AGAIN…
Its bigger than said player at any said position. MY BEEF is with timing and implications that it will have around the city. I see NO GOOD that can come from that. If you wanted to have a contingency plan to move forward why couldn’t that still happen? Did not that happen to Jawand Blue and how we still ended up with him. Why go to THAT EXTREME to prove a point? Was it worth it to prove a point and risk them saying UM isn’t welcome here and then other S. Florida HS’s getting on board with that because they feel they can’t trust us? THAT is my issue. I don’t think the risk is worth whatever possible rewards can come from this. THAT is my issue.
Now with that said, I hope I’m wrong and we do just fine, but I know how these things can get. I’m a recruiting junkie so YES I know these things happen all the time. As I said earlier, USC just did it and that coach in Cali promptly said that Kiffin and crew are not welcome at his school. I don’t want that to happen to us because unlike them, national recruiting can not be our main focus. We have to win HERE and when you upset the #1 team HERE and have them feeling WRONGED that is a problem IMO.
BG everything u stated is opinion.
U have no idea who has been given an ultimatum or not.
That is the problem. We hear one side from these kids and their ignorant mentors and that is all u have to go off of.
That makes no sense in the real world or the recruiting soap opera.
I will bet you dinner and drinks that there is more to this story when it all shakes out.
I am 100% sure of it.
Ill side with the U on this one until proven otherwise.
Im over it…
0.0 in my world of concerns for this team.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Why go to THAT EXTREME to prove a point? Was it worth it to prove a point and risk them saying UM isn’t welcome here and then other S. Florida HS’s getting on board with that because they feel they can’t trust us?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That is exactly why i think there has to be more to the story. Im sure Golden understands this as well. He’s been doing this recruiting thing for a long time. Lets see what happens and what comes out later down the road. Bg you could be right.. but so could c1/ccc and whoever else
Time will tell
C1 innocent until proven guilty I agree.. we only have one side here lets wait and see
JSQ.. Gre>Lsat any day of the week.. random thought as i’ve been hittin the books
This is what I needed to hear. I’m good now. Long as it doesn’t hurt you in the future.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2013/02/a-day-later-cooler-heads-have-prevailed-at-booker-t-matthew-thomas-still-in-play-for-canes.html
Philly,
F@ck the LSAT. That was my most garbage Saturday morning at UM. And to make it worse, they held the testing in the LC, which they keep at like negative 30 degrees in the classrooms.
Good luck on the GRE!
It’s time for the aMiami Herald to fire Manny Navarro.
CanesCanesCanes (@CanesX3)
2/1/13, 3:24 PM
@Manny_Navarro “Toss out the trash”? – that’s the phrase you use in describing how Kirkland was treated? Have you lost your mind?
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/umiami/2013/02/a-day-later-cooler-heads-have-prevailed-at-booker-t-matthew-thomas-still-in-play-for-canes.html
Lsat=awful
Thanks JSQ!
JSQ says:
February 1, 2013 at 3:17 PM
And to make it worse, they held the testing in the LC, which they keep at like negative 30 degrees in the classrooms.
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You make a couple of good points there!
I am guessing Coley knew that he was a silent commit to FSU, and when he saw that Kirkland was still playing that game, ratted him out to save Miami the wasted hours in these valuable last few days.
Only reason the change would have happened so soon after Coley getting here.
As always I come in peace. Just came here to read about the Kirkland story from the Miami perspective after getting caught up on things from the FSU perspective.
My question is this: What good would it have done for Kirkland to silent commit yesterday? Nothing was binding yesterday so why did it carry so much weight to Golden?
Last year was the perfect example of last minute flips: Dante Fowler from us to Florida. Reggie Northrup from you to us. The kid that flipped from VT to you guys. All this happened either the night before or the morning of signing day.
My next question is, why wasn’t Harris’ word good enough this time when he’s been helping Miami recruit Kirkland and Thomas from the beginning?
Again, I come in peace and I’m just asking questions.
Go ask somewhere else
Read that it may have been pertaining to the greenbacks..
Sad if true.
Love the FSU guys preening around this time
Always winning the recruiting wars with highly rated classes
Never winning when it actually counts on the field. Preseason champs, regular season chumps.
NCState – holla
Cx3.
Herc is my frat bro and a very good friend. Yes he’s a FSU fan but I can assure you he’s not trolling. He’s asking serious questions and they are IMO the same ones we all should ask. Those were my questions. It wouldn’t have hurt to make your contingency plan REGARDLESS or what DK was doing/not doing. Again, NO GOOD came out of yesterday, just a bunch of negative press. So why this close to signing day do something THAT drastic at a school that is loaded with talent. The ONLY thing would be to prove a point and AGAIN I say, was it worth it to prove that point? We all hope this has no negative impact down the line but it is a distinct possibility and I still believe it will, though I HOPE it will not.
You can’t do your local program like that, especially one with the status of BTW. NOT when we depend on winning the battles in our backyard for success. You have to protect home and IMO we threw home under the bus. Its bigger than DK and Thomas for that matter. We still have to recruit Miami and this makes that harder as if it wasn’t already hard enough considering the threat of NCAA, our average showings the last decade+, our lack of facilities, our lack of resources, higher academic standards, our poor stadium attendance, etc, etc. Just not something we needed man. That’s what I mean about we could’ve handled this better than we did. No one was preventing them from doing what they had do to prepare for Kirkland coming/not coming. That’s why I say if you really are trying to make THAT kind of statement, then pull all of the scholarships from all of the kids that are waiting until signing day. And for giggles lets say Kirkland tells them, cool coach, I’m in, just as Kayvon Webster did and then on signing day still picks somewhere else, WHAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE??? At least then you don’t have to PUBLICLY look like you are s***ing on your local kid and program.
I guess its cool for the kids to screw the program but the program commits treason if it pulls a scholly. Smdh
The program has more to lose Terrance. Kids come an go, your reputation as a program IF you are seen as the enemy can be career suicide. This made WAVES bad ones at that. More negative press around a program with a dark, negative cloud already about it. Last week was a good time, good news, hopes were that signing day would continue with good news, then this happened. What was stopping us from still doing what we needed to do in the background NO MATTER WHAT Denver or any other player for that matter decided to do or not do? Are we not already doing that with Collins? We still have Gus Edwards on campus RIGHT NOW visiting so WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? Why give him and just him an ultimatum? What did it do? What did it prove? What did it gain us other than negative press and perhaps a negative response from the coaching community in Miami and I can tell FOR CERTAIN its already had some negative effects in the way some HS coaches in the city at other TOP PROGRAMS are feeling about the situation.
Something that Manny brought up that also makes sense is why not do this yourself while you were there? Why make everything seem good, then send Barrow back to smooth over the foot you just hung their ass? These are things we have to look at and consider. I know we are all Miami fans, BUT that doesn’t make every single thing we do the best or smartest things to do. They are still human and they make mistakes too and I still think the way this was handled was a mistake.
Lmao that article is more full of ish than the original one.
Letting ice jr rag on without being checked, once again, does what??? Piss poor journalism at it finest and unfortunately nothing new down there.
Oh I have an idea. Why dont we give an open forum to the butt hurt, poor victims, once again. That seems reasonable.
Manny done lost his mind
There is 100% more to this story than ice and ice jr are fessing to but again, they will defend the kid to no end.
Nothing new and very typical. Poor kid.
What a fuking joke. Ill cosign the manny firing.
Sofla truly has the worst beat reporters in the country that not only are mislead and misinformed but actually go out of their way to harm this program time and time again.
That dumb chimp Jorge and the freezemiser are all in the running with the blivet bringing up the rear because he always finishes races last.
And people wonder why they close off practices to these fools.
And also not sure how much of a pipeline that school is. Cant remember the last decent player out of that dump aside from BHarris and he was a big meh here too.
Eduardo clements and davon johnson have been their best and brightest.
Bwahahahahaha
Oooooooooh dont piss off the ice brothers. They will cut off their pipeline of weak ass bytches and bench riding losers.
Oh nooooo, what will we do without all those studs??
Da fug outta here and go hang with Puke and the rest of the trash down there.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
I officially agree to disagree with you all. Lets just move on and hope NSD is as good as it can be.
DEAL? LOL
BG what u are not accepting is this was not about just an ultimatum.
Your asking the wrong questions and that is why it is not adding up to you.
There is a lot more to this story and all the evidence is pointing to just that.
Your focused on this poor kid getting a last minute ultimatum when there is obviously more to the story.
And that is the bottomline.
Also if you dont think the ice heads are not still salty about Dent getting ganked and papa getting the boot, then you are not paying attention or your head is totally up ur azz.
Whitey in charge is eating Luke and the rest of the vultures up inside.
Now u have a couple cubanos in the house along with uncle Al and they are really up in arms!!!
Sad…
All that being said, Golden has done everything possible to reach out to the community and mend dented fences. Dude is nothing but calculated.
Juuuuust not adding up kids.
Ur either with us or against us, no matter who u r.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Honestly C1.
I don’t care what it was about it. It don’t like how it went down. Because no matter HOW the public facing of it is we shit on them. No getting around that. That’s how it LOOKS. Is that 100% accurate, probably not, but as you know in recruiting perception is EVERYTHING!
I officially have deaded the subject as far as I’m concerned. Tired of talking about it. I have no control so why care. Just ready to move on and hope NSD is as good as we hoped before. Got to run. I’ll be on later. You guys stay up! Go Canes 4 Ever No Matter What!
HERC, what they gain is the knowledge that they ended the relationship on their terms.
Let’s say you (Golden) are dating some girl (Kirkland) that keeps saying “He’s just a friend.” (FSU) After a while, you get suspicious, you talk to one of his buddies (Coley), and the buddy says that you are getting played. Do you whine and beg and hope it doesn’t happen again, or do you GTFO and find the next girl to notch on the bedpost?
He is playing around, was confronted, and chose to Manti Teo/ Lance Armstrong it, deny everything and blame everyone except himself.
I get where BG is coming from, why confront, just ingnore the (what word rhymes with confront?).
But Golden and Barrow chose this route. Let’s see if it pays off or burns us.
BTW, not taunting, but where were you when we stole Coley?
Good point. I’ll take Thomas, but exactly how many studs have been pouring out of BTW?
Whitey in charge is eating Luke and the rest of the vultures up inside.
Now u have a couple cubanos in the house along with uncle Al and they are really up in arms!!!
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LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Canes Outsider, thanks for the response. Canes Canes Canes has his thong in a bunch today and is trying to act like the board bully. Was bringing up NCState supposed to be your zinger??
I came on here and read everyone’s comments after the Coley hiring. I came on here after the NCAA thing the day before. I just didn’t comment
Well, I’m a good hostess sooooo….
Here’s some virtual crabcake sliders and Jello shots, Herc. Thanks for visiting.
By the way, nothing spells R-O-M-A-N-C-E from 1,500 miles away like getting your boyfriend $61.63 worth of his favorite pizza, plus frosted 49ers cookies delivered for Super Bowl weekend.
I think I was just proposed to via a text message.
I’ve got no beef with any of herc’s questions. Unlike our favorite herald writers, he’s trying to hear other sides of the story. On the field I hope the noles get stomped, off the field, I can respect a few of em.
Hollywood Cane,
I’m not the guy that hates everything UM. Do I smile when UM loses, of course but at the same time I don’t mind UM doing well as long as FSU beats them. BG can vouch for the fact that from the beginning I didn’t want the NCAA to hit y’all too hard because I’d rather beat y’all at full strength.
Outsider, I don’t have a problem with Golden taking that stance but the scenario you described is the nature of today’s recruiting. All the “recruitniks” on the various FSU boards had Kirkland 75% chance to Miami before yesterday. That’s why I asked why they were pushing for a silent commit so much.
Regarding Coley, the universal feeling was the timing and school of choice sucked. Coley the recruiter will be missed, Coley the coach not so much. At the same time, most of us feel like he made a good decision taking the UM job. Coley and Jimbo have some philosophical differences regarding how an offence should be ran; couple that with 2 of our new offensive assistants having more OC experience; there was no guarantee that Coley would be the one to take over play calling duties whenever Jimbo gives it up.
Nicole had her interview at Miller today….she called me and said, “Mom I am home”….so if she gets in I think Miller will be the one!!
PS – she got into USF and an interview with UCF this month…
It doesn’t count until he’s kneeling in front of you with a rock, U&O! haha
In all fairness, Imo’s just has REALLY good pizza.
Next time y’all are in Missouri, you gotta try it.
Lou, can you back me up on this?!
I also threw in toasted ravioli and garlic cheese bread and meatball subs and Dr. Pepper for good measure.
Yay, U&O! That’s so awesome!!!
Congratulations, Nicole!
All the “recruitniks” on the various FSU boards had Kirkland 75% chance to Miami before yesterday. That’s why I asked why they were pushing for a silent commit so much.
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And the “recruitniks” have how much credibility again?
I’ll put it like this, the times ALL the recruitniks agree that strongly on a guy they’ve rarely been wrong. Off the top of my head, Tony Steward is the only one I can recall in the last 4-5 years. He even shocked his mother & coach when he chose Clemson.
Let me clarify a couple of things: by recruitniks, I’m talking about the guys who actually interview these guys, cover their games, talk to their coaches, etc. etc. I’m not talking about the random guy on the board that heard from a friend’s friend’s cousin.
When they all agree that STRONGLY. I’m not talking about when guys are coin flips and the recruitniks homer out and predict FSU for the readers’ sake.
Would love to sit with the coaches and hear the other side of the story … fans, kids, parents, coaches can go to all the media outlets and vent, say what they want and then add on to it like the “telephone game” – coaches can’t say a word b/c it would be a violation
Fair fight right there
So that’s your shot there, thong?
That’s weak. Being that you’re bg’s frat bro, I’ll just leave it at that.
Congrats on Miller.
Talk her out of pediatrics, though, unless she’s dead set that’s what she wants to do.
Great conversation here. I have been talking to bg about this offline and I have to give the man credit, he has his beliefs. We will see what happens come Wednesday but feeling good when it comes to AG even if this was a speed bump. Spring can’t get here soon enough. Jonesin’ so bad already figuring which road game I will attend this year to the wife’s dismay
USF is the easiest, FSU the best in state, one of the Carolinas are easiest for out of state, Pitt will probably be best out of state…
Tough decisions!
USF – if you go to home games, most people should try to make this. Fly or 3.5 hour drive. Easy stadium.
Why do you say Pitt is the best? Believe it or not, other than for a connection, I’ve never been to Pittsburgh. The last time I was there was connecting though to Montreal on US-Scare (USAir)
Because all the alums from the northeast will pick that one to go to.
I am good for all the 9 games in Florida the 7 home games in Miami and the USF game in Tampa 7.5 drive and the FSU game in Tally a 4 hour drive. The other 3 games I gotta watch them on television from here in Montgomery.
Shwarma.
I’m a Taurus. I’m bull headed. My wife tells me that all the time. She says when he believes something its almost NOTHING you can do to change his mind. That’s good sometimes and bad sometimes. Its a character flaw to a degree but I try to not let it get the best of me. I’m only human! LOL
Yeah USF def in the cards and was thinking about Pitt. All about the easy air
Pitt for sure for me. Got to find something else that is schedule friendly
Shane’s lil bro KC…BIG TIME 2014 Prospect!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lM6WCg81gZM
BG the Human League and Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis appreciate your I am only Human reference lol.
Not crazy – running a charity 5k this morning
Thought this was interesting headline:
Texas OC Major Applewhite “engaged in inappropriate, consensual behavior with an adult student”. If she was an adult & consented, is it even a big deal?
Interesting they don’t say co-ed or mention whether it was a female
bg1906 says:
February 2, 2013 at 1:56 AM
Shane’s lil bro KC…BIG TIME 2014 Prospect!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lM6WCg81gZM
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Damn! First time I see film from him….monster….he seems to be better than his brother?!
Per Ferman
Denver Kirkland’s dad had a series of phone conversations with Al Golden, other UM coaches and even UM President Donna Shalala on Friday and the doors of dialogue have been opened that could lead to Kirkland getting back in the mix for this recruiting class.
^^^^Again IF this was to occur and IF he ended up in the class regardless, WAS THE NEGATIVE HIT WORTH IT???
Bg if Ice wasn’t a stupid big mouth all this would have been avoided. This is NOT Golden’s fault!
Bg I think it would be good for both UM/Goldie and DK…
The later gets into his ” dream school”.
And Goldie puts these so fl ballas on notice.
Now if only he would put the fire to the feet of his BFF:-)
DAMN I NEED SO SLEEP!!!
Totally respect everyone opinions on this site for sure. Since we have only heard one side of the DK story it’s hard to know for sure. IMO the negative hit in the short run is worth it if in the long run kids are more honest and willing to make a decision. It can be silent so they can have their 5 minutes in the spot light, but you can’t leave the coaches hanging until the last minute.
I feel Golden and company rolled the dice to put themselves in a stronger position with recruits going forward. Using his psychology degree to it fullest. JJ certainly played mind games. If that is the case and DK gets back in this class this was a brilliant move, and will pay benefits in the future.
Hoping for the best on NSD
While I really try to stay out of this recruiting drama (to me worse than an episode of toddler and tiaras) this statement really made me laugh:
IMO the negative hit in the short run is worth it if in the long run kids are more honest and willing to make a decision.
^^^^ha ha ha, recruiting is nasty, dirty business!
Love you John but I don’t see that happening. The media and fans have feed this ugly giant called recruiting and I don’t see it cooling down for a long while!
Anyway I will never fight over a decision made by an 18 or 19 year old kid. You know the ones who can’t determine on their own whether dishes in the dishwasher are clean or dirty. Or if they think their hair is too long and it may need to be cut! Or if they are dirty enough for a shower!
Happy Super Bowl Weekend.
GO CANES and GO RAVENS!!!!
^ fed
IMO the negative hit in the short run is worth it if in the long run kids are more honest and willing to make a decision. It can be silent so they can have their 5 minutes in the spot light
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I totally agree with this!
cc, even if you don’t like the word “honest”, and I totally get your cynicism, it’s about letting the kids know that we’re not a jumpoff anymore, to get used and abused as leverage until something better comes along or they start “feeling” us. This staff is selling us as a destination. We’re not Alabama, of course, but do you think they get dykked around like this? No. Kids are told how it is and they wait in line. Golden is trying to get us to s reasonable facsimile of that.
lol, if you have to even think whether you need a shower or not, you NEED a shower.
I get it Cx3 just think recruiting is an ugly business on both sides! That is why I stay out!
According to Brandon over at CI, DK and fam did in fact initiate conversation with UM after this little debacle, only to say that he wasn’t interested and it was between FSU and ARKY.
TFWIW.
Very few are built for the recruiting game…
Most can’t handle it, even more just don’t get it, or a combo of the two. Tough part is that ones who fall into those categories don’t realize it.
That’s when buttholes get loosened.
Btw Workaholics back on Comedy Central. Ya gott, ya gotta, gotta b fresh!
Jumpin in to Assasins Creed III. Hit me up if you played it.
Oh and B odoi is yet another dildo in a loooooong string of dildos who is in such a hurry to be right, doesn’t care to be correct.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
I remember when Seantrel made Randy Shannon wait 2 or 3 hours so he could go get his “hair did”
Some kids, I would give some leniency to when it comes to special treatment during the recruiting process – not exactly ass kissing, but buttering them up – if they are a real position of need .. I believe Canez1 and some others have said that earlier
Of course that leniency I gave would be followed by – as soon as you sign your LOI, all that buttering up I did is out the f*cking window and U Tough would be similar to SEAL hell week b/c your azz is now ours … that 5 star or 4 star sh*t doesn’t mean anything anymore .. you’re a pudgy soft assed Frosh at the bottom of the food chain
This close to NSD, no time for bullsh*tting around. Ain’t nobody got time for dat. Nice to see a stand being made to send a message
I went with my girl to go see “Mama” – it had a couple of scenes that were scary to start out, but once you got used to the way that ghost lady looked and how those little wild ass kids acted in the cabin, it was laughable. If anything, she looked like Derek Jeter in the face with long hair and Karen Carpenter’s body
What negative hit? Who said this was negative? Manny Navarro? Ice Harris?
So what?
You guys really think other south florida coaches suddenly don’t trust Al Golden because Ice Harris had an issue? Pleeeeeaaaaassssse…
Relax.
Maybe Ice shouldn’t be telling coach his player is all UM when the reality is he wants to go to FSU with his boy.
Maybe Manny shouldn’t be putting Golden and Miami out there like that because he’s insecure about losing a story to the retards over on the recruiting boards. He could’ve reported the story – in full – Wednesday or Thursday AFTER getting the staff’s version of events and then would’ve had a REAL story.
Por favor!! You ever here of the Tuscalosa papers putting Nick out there like that? How about when Urban was in Gaysville collecting the top 1% of the top 1%.
Or Mack in Austin.
Nope. They don’t do it. It’s bush league.
Welcome to the bush leagues Manny!
Maybe Golden knew that kid had other intentions and wanted him to just man up and admit it. He can’t say that. It’s a violation. So why only report half a story. Don’t give me “I was doing my job.” Your JOB is to report facts, fairly. Not gossip and half stories.
I am still not sure who sees this as a negative for Miami outside of a few recruiting nuts that think every coach in a America kisses every kids ass. This happens with Alabama, Texas, Ohio State and Oregon…among many others…all the time.
Get on the train or get left behind.
Jimmy said win with us or get beat by us.
This situation is a VERY positive sign that the man in charge finally has a huge set golden balls and is going to run his program accordingly.
How many kids does Texas already have locked up for 2014? That’s where Miami wants to be and it takes moves like this to establish that kind of culture.
You know that kid and his coach were in the wrong just by the fact that they called the staff up to try and make nice. There’s nothing negative about this.
In life you either lead, follow or get the f@ck out of the way. That kid is learning that as we speak.
Now that the NCAA screwed the pooch, sh@t the bed and prematurely blew its load there is no longer a dark cloud hanging over our heads. Kids know this. Parents understand and they all better pony on up because the fact is space is going to be limited very soon if a player wants to jump on board.
Positive things are coming. Good things are coming.
Only good things and its great to be a Miami Hurricane!
Go Canes!
Odoi is my frat bro so I have nothing bad to say about him. I’ll post my thoughts on all of this mess which I’d what it is when I get home
PB
What do you expect him to do? He felt he and kid were wronged and he spoke about it. Did you listen to him on Joe Rose. Please do if you don’t.
Here is my thing. Why all this scrambling NOW? Why try to “make it right” or “fix it” if it WASN’T broken. If what you did was right and what you believed in, WHY have all these KUMBAYAS and meetings and having them talk to Donna? Because they realize it was a mistake. It was not the smartest of decisions and it was with the WRONG set of individuals. Like I said yesterday, do this to an OOS kid or say you do to somebody in Tampa like what they did to Travis Johnson and its no big deal, it happens. BUT to do it THIS close to signing day, with a school that is PERCEIVED (true or not) to have the most talent and puts kid in BCS programs and that has INFLUENCE in the area, you cannot make it so they feel distrust and wronged. ESPECIALLY when they have a 5 star talent you actually have a shot at. Mind you Matthew Thomas and Denver Kirkland might very well have stiffed Miami on signing day, THAT IS THE GAME. Happens everywhere, kids stiff every coach they say no too every single time they say no. They can only go to ONE school. The thing is, kids come and kids go. So yeah you MAY not get Thomas. You MAY not get Kirkland. BUT you want the OPPORTUNITY to recruit Chad Thomas and Nigel Patton and Treon Harris next year and any kids from years to come and once you lost or damaged the relationship THAT is hard to repair. Now coaches in Miami see this and say, MAN if this can happen to BTW and Ice who are we, then they have doubts. So why is that an issue, because team in America wants us to be a NON-FACTOR in S. Florida so they can recruit without the spectrum of having to worry about Miami keeping a MIAMI KID. So no matter WHAT happens, their focus should have been on protecting the relationship and keeping the trust. Trust until you had a reason not too. The BTW staff said things were trending you way and they believed you’d get him. THAT should’ve been good enough and if it wasn’t, STILL make your contingency plan and be prepared to move forward. Did that not happen last year? Did we NOT have contingency plans? Of course we did, that’s how Jawand Blue ended up being able to commit/sign on SIGNING DAY! NONE of this had to happen. DO what you need to do DESPITE what BTW was doing. However we were trying to as so many people on Twitter put it, having to show them WHOSE BOSS, and you ended up f’n yourself and looking like bumbling stumbling bafoons trying to fix it. Well if you didn’t do nothing WRONG or didn’t make a mistake, there is NOTHING TO FIX! This is why I say no matter what, WE made the mistake because WE are supposed to be smarter than that. Denver Kirkland is a KID and they’ll be many more of them and some will make good decisions for themselves and some will make bad ones (Ask Ivan McCartney). But no matter what, our integrity and the relationships HAVE TO LAST PAST ANY INDIVIDUAL PROSPECT. So by NO MEANS was it worth ANY OF THIS NEGATIVITY to prove a f’n point. It was absolutely STUPID and not only hurts you NOW with these prospects but may hurt you with future prospects as well. THAT is why I didn’t like any of this and why I’ve argued so strongly against it.
I appreciate you all and your love for UM. I have a love for the Canes that will NEVER DIE. However, just because I love them doesn’t mean they are beyond reproach. They are human. Last time I checked NONE OF THEM walked on water. They make mistakes and THIS was a mistake.
I rest my case and I believe what I believe! Sorry Shwarma!
I appreciate you all and your love for UM. I have a love for the Canes that will NEVER DIE. However, just because I love them doesn’t mean they are beyond reproach. They are human. Last time I checked NONE OF THEM walked on water. They make mistakes and THIS was a mistake.
PREACH!!!!!!
Haha bg. One question, if Miami was so in the wrong, why Kirkland agree to the meeting? Unless I have missed something, that to me is the telling part. We will see what comes of it
Shwarma5
Because his family REALLY wants him at UM (Dad anyways). That is why you agree to the meeting. UM was wrong for how they HANDLED IT. You burned a bridge that YOU need because burning that bridge could burn others in the area where you MUST win. Its bigger than Kirkland or Thomas or any 1 guy. Its the RELATIONSHIPS and future ramifications of recruiting in the city you have to OWN (which we haven’t lately and this could have only made it worse). The telling part is UM mismanaged the situation. Kirkland could have silent committed at he wants, IT MEANS NOTHING! NOTHING MEANS ANYTHING UNTIL INK IS DRY ON PAPER AND FAX IS RECEIVED. So pressing him for a VERBAL and even if he went public with it DID NOTHING and PROVED NOTHING. He could STILL go on ESPN, pitch your hat, put on FSU or Arkansas and sign and fax the LOI to them. So you didn’t have to do all this BS to prove a point when the only possible thing that could come out of it is BAD PRESS for you and THAT is EXACTLY what happened! CONTINGENCY PLANS and doing what you needed to do IN SPITE of Kirkland, Collins, Thomas, etc should’ve been the MO. They are PREPARING if they don’t get Collins by TRYING to get Edwards. They could strike out on both, get 1 or the other, or get neither, THAT IS RECRUITING, BUT at least they didn’t damage any relationships and they had a plan. Everyone of the kids that are committed could stiff us on signing day. UM’s LOI won’t be the only they have, does that happen, NO, but could it, YES. That’s the point having him commit did nothing REAL for you so WHY even go down that route ONLY to back track. If you REALLY are trying to prove a point, then stand by your decision and it is what it is. See USC and UF. They yanked offers even as recent as today and they aren’t back tracking!
We will agree to disagree on how these tea leaves read
Shwarma.
You are entitled to that but I would advise you to see past your fandom. Doesn’t mean you are any less of fan to be rationale and see things for what they really are. Its OK to say UM was boneheaded in this situation. They are people and they make mistakes. Recruiting is what it is. Yes I get that works both ways, but the kid is going to be FINE. He’ll have OTHER options and does, but the reputation of THIS staff at THIS time COULD be tarnished and that doesn’t end up just FINE so easily! That’s all I’m saying.
This is us right now unfortunately: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K2v-8ctq5x4
While u all talk about recruiting drama. The Canes bball team playing NC State on CBS. Lets go Canes. I will let you all go back to this nonsensical bs called recruiting drama.
Link online to watch game?
Nothing to do with fandom bg. Everything you and I have discussed is based on you taking DK/Ice at their word for the most part. I believe their is some gray matter we don’t know about and so I am not ready to assign blame. If it was truly just as has been reported by Manny to date then yes UM fuked up because sometimes it doesn’t matter what the truth is but rather the perception.
But here is the thing, I also know we will never get to hear golden comment. I know that just as much schools hold most of the chips, kids/coaches are trying a whole new level of fukkery. And so sometimes you have to do the unpopular thing.
So Who’s right or wrong? I don’t know yet. But I am not ready to in any way call this a mistake yet. Instead it’s just a problem with unfortunate timing. And you know what shiz happens.
Answer me this, do you have any reason to believe Golden made this move without thinking it through? I am not naive enough to say he can do know wrong, but to this point he has earned my benefit of the doubt.
Let 2014 Dade county class and what he does with d’nof serve as his first litmus tests.
There is no gray matter Shwarma but believe what you will.
Also this wasn’t a who’s right or wrong situation and I think that is what you guys are thinking I’m saying. The situation is Miami screwed up the TRUST with a program you can’t afford to do that with because of the influence they (Ice) has in the Miami football coaching circles. THAT is the situation. Who cares if we land Kirkland or Thomas or anyone else. That’s recruiting, win some, lose some, but you HAVE to live to fight another day and THIS makes that ‘other day fight much more difficult.
Also no matter thought through or not, doesn’t mean it was right decision. If it was, no need for all the back tracking. I mean you REALLY believe Donna would be involved in THIS if there was a FAIL by us? I’m mean c’mon guy, open your eyes!
Bg, whether you mean to or not, I think you are the one closed off to other possibilities. You have defined and set your view of what this was, is and will be for the future, but this shiz is still literally 48 hours old. I am just saying the story is in pencil, not pen
Sure You got your ear to the ground, have some exp. of what these kids are going through and are passionate about this like no other, but that doesn’t equate to others not making valid points worth consideration.
For instance:
Why would a coach who talks so much about protecting our turf and who just hired two master recruiters with ties to the area act brazenly?
Why would a coach who must fill his schollies this year since he won’t know what he will have next year just toss out a player when he knows there will be blowback?
Not saying the answers to these questions might not be the correct one when judging Golden’S actions, but does it make sense to assume we acted with disregard?
Out for now but I am sure we will all be debating later
Trey McKINNEY Jones is killing us today. Smdh.
Shwarma.
I don’t think it was in malice. I think he did what he thought was right. No problems there. BUT he still doesn’t know the lay of the land in Miami yet and THAT isn’t the move you can pull down here as the local school when EVERYONE wants in so the kids have options. I have heard that MANY of the HS coaches REALLY like Golden but say his staff from a recruiting standpoint is not up to snuff. That may have SOME merit as I believe the best recruiters on staff are Deon Bush and Duke Johnson! At any rate, the need for Coley and Cristobal was REAL they are needed here even if but a short time to show them the ropes of recruiting in S. Florida.
Unfreakingbelievable!!!!!
Canes win canes win canes win
uuuufff…that was close….heart stopping UM 79 – NCST 78
Damn!!! Down by 1 , Reg tips one with 1.4 seconds…!!! Canes WIN!!!
Canes win a epic game. M-I-A-M-l fight, fight, fight!
Top ten, baby!
This about to get real!
Them boys are balling right now
LOL!!!!!
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This was a #wolfpack coach Who when Miami missed and Nc state Timeout. Who choked coach? Not #theU #caneshoops http://twitpic.com/c0f1d3
Just because Harris publicly questions why Miami did something doesn’t mean that privately he does not know knows he’s partly to blame.
What is going on here?
Since when is getting half of a story reason enough to panic about burning bridges? No one has burnt any bridges. Shalala is involved in the in the same manner she is When it comes to trying to seal any deal with a family.
Why is there so much being read into such a simple situation?
There is absolutely nothing wrong with a university choosing to pull a scholarship on a player. Nothing. It happens every. single. day. in recruiting. The difference here is the local media doesn’t feel the need to report it every time it happens across the country.
The Herald is special that way. Retards. All of them.
What happened at BTW isn’t going to have any negative effect in recruiting at Central, STza or anywhere else in south florida.
The effect it will have is when a kid gets asked “are you going to commit?” hes going to think twice before saying “we’ll see what happens” And THAT is exactly why they met today.
Not to save face. Not to mend bridges. Just be on the same page and not deal with any BS.
Something funny happens when you think you’re in control and then suddenly you gain the understanding that control was never yours to begin with.
Learning to be humble is a good thing and learning to be honest is another.
There’s comes a point in every man’s life when you learn that being a boy doesn’t work anymore.
I wonder what the reaction would be had this happened under Randy’s watch? I already know the answer to that. You guys conveniently give Golden a pass Randy would’ve never gotten.
Hollywood
No offense but your response tells me how much you don’t know about recruiting. I say that with all due respect bro. All due respect
Why don’t I know about recruiting? Because I’m not giving credence to a HS coach that screwed up and had a program believing a kid was there’s when in reality he might not have been?
Hmmmmm…interesting point of view you have there.
Let me ask you a couple of questions and then see if we can play a little connect the dots…
Here it goes:
Who is Denver’s very good friend on the team?
Where does Denver’s good friend really want to go to school?
Who was recruiting Denver’s friend from that school?
Where does that recruiter now work?
Did Denver have plans to go to the same college as his friend?
Would Golden have been aware of that up until recently?
When that recruiter switched schools do you think he filled Golden in?
The head coach at any school in the country would NEVER put himself in a position like Golden did without some pretty good knowledge that there was a reason why that kid wouldn’t commit.
DK could have simply committed…said let’s keep it silent…and gone about his wish to do his hat game live on ESPN with his 5 star friend.
That is if he really was a Cane all along like his HS coach at BTW claimed he was.
Bg just a quick response but you are off base with dent. One was someone born and raised down here, an asst coach down here.. One showed no leadership as a head coach . And that one still would have gotten a pass you are claiming I wouldn’t give him in the first couple years. While I agreed randy needed to go, my venom was restrained with him.
Btw manny has DK,s step dad saying um did nothing wrong and ice was misinformed. So plot thickens…
I have complete and total confidence in Golden. This situation happens every single day in recruiting every day…and I mean every day.
Saban asks kids to gray shirt, Kiffin asks committed kids to defer EE. The only difference is an idiotic highschool coach here goes on the air to talk shit rather than do his job, help both parties reach an understanding.
That moron so badly hurt his own player it’s ridiculous. Then to top it off this buffoon calls uncle Luke??
Give me a break.
Shannon wouldn’t have done that.
Shannon would’ve let the kid get up on espn with a U hat next to the FSU and let Jimbo have the last laugh.
Big difference.
Hollywood.
Sorry for insinuating you didn’t know anything about recruiting. That was out of bounds. My bad, but my friend the truth of the matter is what REALLY would a silent commitment have done? Its not binding so he could’ve said what they wanted to hear and still he and Matt go to FSU on Wednesday. Either way you don’t get him so WHY do this and get ripped PR wise? If you aren’t feeling confident whatever contingencies you needed to make… MAKE THEM! As I told you the other day you make valid points but I just feel we didn’t have to do it THIS WAY because the negative PR could potentially hurt locally. If they know Denver want coming they also knew Matt want coming so again I ask the question, then why not pull them both? If they knew they were packaged to FSU then pull both offers.
Where is all of this negative pr you speak of?
On the message boards??
In the Miami Herald???
Nobody cares about this. No other coach in south florida cares about this.
No one.
There’s only Harris, who believe me knows he screwed up, and and a few guys around the Internet.
It’s really not that big of a deal and its all going to work out.
Why not pull them both?
Good question and I will try to be brief:
Forget about stars next to their names. One kid is believed to be an immediate impact player at a position of severe need.
Severe need.
Severe.
The other kid is a player that they’d like to have but also believe there are others that will be just as good that are ready to come on board.
One kid has been saying all along where his dream school is while the other has also said the same thing.
One kid has turned his eyes towards somewhere because of some coaching changes and the other has changed his sites to another school as well.
No one said they were a package deal. Just that Denver would like to go where his friend goes.
They don’t know where his friend his going and if OL was a desperate situation maybe they don’t pull the scholly. But they need that scholly for someone who wants to be there and, quite frankly, he’s not worth holding a scholly for and missing out on someone else.
His friend is.
I do hope that’s true and I believe those were the reasons for the meetings today. To not get him in the fold but just to put it all out on the table, get some clarity, and move forward. Based on Kirkland’s dad’s comments I think that it’s what they all are trying to do so I do hope it ends well and there are no negative consequences
You’re reading way too much into that HC’s words and looking at this way to negatively.
But taking offer and pissing off coach can’t help you with 5 star either. I hope this is nothing. I really do. I just know how things can go. I do believe that it’s why Coley and Cristobal are here.
After every thing that I’ve read the last 15 minutes, this is 100% on the recruit side of the fence, not on our coaches. Read the latest from the Herald.
Game over. If anyone believes anything different, suppress the agenda and look at it with an open mind.
There’s no reason to give AG a pass – because he did nothing wrong. Nothing. We’ve been getting PLAYED if what I read is true. Played like dumb hillbillies that just fell off the turnip truck.
Unless there’s some big fake out going on behind the scenes, Thomas and Kirkland aren’t coming here, and that’s been the plan for a while. Definitely before this week.
Next man up.
Perhaps I am and I do realize we only know the BTW side of the story. But I just think those guys are too smart to have done it this way
They just got caught, that’s all. They got called on it. That’s the way I see this.
Cx3
Hollywood’s points are valid no argument there.
Manny should’ve never written a word about it. Should’ve never gone and asked anyone any questions without talking to coach…this happens at every school at one point or another during recruiting. Manny was wrong for only putting half the story out there. That was ridiculous.
It’s no big deal. It really isn’t.
This back n forth is beyond tired.
Did I just see a Dent reference?? YIKES!!!! Thats never a good thing and a true sign ammo is running extremely low!!
Cmon son!! Ur better than that.
Check this ish out lmao!!!
http://www.fauowlaccess.com/articles/133/fau-sends-keith-bryant-home.aspx
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Cx3
And that’s fine you caught them but my argument has always been, then still do what you need to do, but don’t yank the offer because the perception will be UM was at fault because they can’t defend themselves. That’s why I have a problem with it because they are smarter than that. Don’t care if he was coming or not. You win some, you lose some, but you didn’t have to get your name drug through the mud just to say Got Ya!
Hollywood.
He was there covering the parade when it all went down. He had a story and he reported it. He actually want even first to report it Cane Insider was
*wasn’t *
Hollywood I would add another question to your list which I believe is central to all this decision making process…
Where does Denver’s good friend BROTHER goes to school?
Bori.
That holds weight too
Exactly…a recruiting message board. Not a nationally recognized source of news. News papers aren’t supposed to report half a story. Journalism involves investigation and reporting facts…fairly.
That’s not what happened and Manny knows better. Maybe he did what he was told but that doesn’t change the fact that you don’t read crap like this in Alabama or Texas or Oklahoma or anywhere.
Mostly because you’re not supposed to tell only one side of a story and in recruiting you’re always only gong to get one side.
This staff, as it was, would’ve never known until they hired their new OC. It’s not fair to say they’re hillbillies.
The BTW HC shouldn’t be telling one of his best friends that all his recruiting efforts will pay off when the reality is that really might not be true.
What other way are you supposed to pull a scholarship?
Manny and his flock of morons are the real problem here.
The Harris fools are secondary.
They should fire them all and blow up the building.
Worthless know nothings that just regurgitate info gathered by others.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
These facts all have merit. I guess I’ve said all of this in a round about way, but I just wish the situation was handled better all the way around. The kids are at fault for gaming. Just be honest and maybe as you say at that won’t happen anymore. I’m starting to feel they were even gaming BTW staff because they went REALLY hard at defending their kids. I just know our staff is so much smarter than the average bear so I expect them to be smart enough to not make this a public pissing match since you can only have 1 side of the story and deal with this in a way where NONE OF US are talking about it and they still get their objectives met. Its unfortunate all the way around.
I say for real this time, lets put it to be and hope we have a good day Monday and Wednesday.
Deal???
Hollywood.
You apparently know your stuff man. My bad on insinuating you didn’t. Much respect.
No worries…I know it’s easy to get caught up in the drama. Especially when these kids are so important to the process and when you ONLY get their side of the story.
I think what’s different here is that we have a very competent evaluator and magager. Someone who gets the business side of this. Not since Butch has Miami had that.
Good stuff Hollywood Cole.
Maybe Shalala was asking the kid if he really wanted to go to Miami… She would be able to find a way. Put it back on him. Maybe? (Since we’re all half-guessing here anyways)
But we’re not guessing about the Canes basketball team being ON FIRE right now!
IS IT THE SHOES?!
And… Workaholics rules.
DZ8-Checking out.
http://www.fauowlaccess.com/articles/133/fau-sends-keith-bryant-home.aspx
### The UM/Denver Kirkland soap opera ended Saturday, when Kirkland met with UM coaches and decided not to attend Miami, according to his step-father, who said Denver will choose FSU or Arkansas.
But why did UM pull its scholarship offer to the Booker T. Washington All-American on Thursday? A UM source said here was the thinking at the time: Kirkland had a Hurricanes offer for nine months (he chose not to accept a take-it-or-leave-it offer from UM on Thursday) and UM coaches felt he was playing games with them. Plus, UM had some silent commitments at the time and was expecting a full class (17 or 18) without him. Al Golden doesn’t like to over-sign and force players to gray shirt or go to prep school.
But Golden changed his mind for reasons that he might clarify on National Signing Day. Unfortunately for UM, it was too late. Kirkland met with several Hurricanes assistant coaches on Saturday, but they couldn’t persuade him after Thursday’s initial yanking of the offer.
UM president Donna Shalala also called the Kirkland family, but that didn’t sway him, either. Booker T. Washington coaches believe Kirkland would have picked UM if the offer hadn’t been retracted Thursday.
### It’s even more critical that UM lures Alex Collins or Augustus Edwards because backup running back Eduardo Clements has been wearing a neck brace, and his status in very much in question. UM could use incoming Ray Lewis III as a running back, instead of defensive back, if needed.
UM has been pitching Collins – who will announce Monday – that he would share carries with Duke Johnson. Returnees Danny Dillard and Dallas Crawford also are in the mix.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy
Big Congratulations to First-Ballot Hall Of Famer Warren Sapp!
The U now has 6 players in the Hall from a program that really didn’t care about football until the 80s. One thing that is clearly evident is that Sapp truly loves the game. It’s nice to see the Hall, it’s voters and the fans acknowledge Sapp’s contributions and reward him by bestowing membership into the fraternity.
C-A-N-E-S CANES!
Man, I miss a day on the board and all hell freezes over.
Would the DK issue be THAT big if #6 wasn’t his teammate?
Is the BTW coach making this way to bigger of an issue than it should be?
Really disappointed in the Herald.
Delray, yes to all of the above
Tons of misinformation out there and even more one sided nonsense, that is taken as gospel for some crazy reason.
Extremely whacked Imo.
Add to that some not so hidden agendas, the ghost of Blandy Dent Shaninigan, still alive and well, underlying hate for whitey, the hcic, and his cubano friends and there you have it.
The Harris queens played themselves and got played, thus all the bitchassedness.
We are surrounded by 4th rate “journalists” who have no clue what they are doing and spew the first whisper in their ear as fact, in the race to be first.
They are ALL turrible. Sorry BG.
Nothing to see here as usual.
We close strong. I expect that everyone who is in has expressed that to the staff and this class is a wrap.
There was only one big dummy still rolling the dice and he got played EXACTLY like he should have, with a strong pimp hand.
Anyone who still thinks Puke is a friend of this program is a delusional melon head. Dude is a racist cancer and hopefully he dies later on today.
Fugin scumbag.
I think brooks and edwards end up in this class along with the usual suspects minus 1.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Lol
Canez1 is always subtle and politically correct…
is that the walrus?
What C1said. Every last word of it.
And if Thomas is dumb enough to pick FSU to be with his buddy, a back up right tackle, then so be it.
Said it before, no kid is bigger than this program anymore.
The days do Daniel Aderlly scholarships are over too. This staff has a plan and is executing it.
End of story.
Agendas have been a huge part of this entire drama. See above.
Please read all the backtracking quotes from the parties involved.
Like I sad before, the curtain got pulled back, and we said, “we ain’t playing”. Then all the usual suspects jump in without even bothering to actually figure out what actually happened. Of course the race card gets puked up when race has nothing to do with it. The school has to protect its interests and those of the program. Mix in the gargoyle from the Herald being a mouthpiece for the haters, some of our fans (not bg) acting like a bunch of hysterical twats, and there you have it: the perfect storm of bullshit and misinformation.
Ever since Dan Lebaturd outed Miami during the Erickson days the Herald has taken unusual pride in shining a very negative light on the football program. I don’t get it.
I have never seen a local paper try so hard to make its football team look so bad.
It’s a shame.
“F@ck the LSAT. That was my most garbage Saturday morning at UM. And to make it worse, they held the testing in the LC, which they keep at like negative 30 degrees in the classrooms.”
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It is f’ing SIBERIA in the LC! Oh, and let’s not post the room numbers in any kind of helpful visual or reasonable order. Granted I was spoiled because 90% of my classes were in the b-school, but I was always so uncomfortable in the LC. [For those who don't know, the b-school classrooms are like conference rooms with staggered granite tables and big (too big) comfy chairs.]
When I brought up Randy it had 100% nothing to do with race. It was about so many here not liking him personally and NOTHING he could do was right in you guys eyes. Its not race, if it was, you guys wouldn’t be accepting of me right? Just feel Golden gets a pass on things Randy would not have because people like him. No more, no less.
Arkansas just got a RB commitment from Denzel Evans… That may be a good sign for us
Canes Outsider: “I get where BG is coming from, why confront, just ingnore the (what word rhymes with confront?).”
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I just snorted out loud, thanks.
True BG, but would Ice have gone on running his mouth like that when he was DEAD WRONG if it was Randy that pulled that scholly?
I don’t think so.
Manny knows what’s going down locally with all the resentment and whatnot. Shouldn’t have reported those comments because they were out of line and unprofessional.
I’m sure Harris was confused because he wasn’t aware of everything either. But if it were any other coach he might given that person the benefit of the doubt before jumping on the radio and ripping the HC in the paper.
Between the BTW coaches and the Herald there is a whole lot of crow eating going on.
It’s bush league unprofessionalism at its finest. Thank god the only people caring about this are about 1000 recruiting nuts on a couple of message boards.
Arkansas now has 2 RBs publicly committed. That has to mean we get Collins. Would be shocked now if we don’t especially with them taking the one RB commit this AM
Ryheem Locksley has committed. ATH. I’ll link his video in a few. He looks good on the huff. Just don’t k know position
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/627267/ryheem-lockley
What does this mean in terms of other recruits, ie, Coley, etc.
Thus guy came out of nowhere, but looks like a big physical receiver to me.
Hes a prep kid.
Won’t count against schollies this yr.
Great athlete and certified goon squad.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Agree C1
Good deal
I trust in Golden and the process
C1 dissin Luke is like a baby being born and slapping his mother. He birthed your whole essence, persona, effervescence and swag…shame on you.
Bg, you are battling the master morality…there will be no concessions or compromise.
Lokley looks like a LB playing wide reciever. Could be a future for him.
lol at Luke defining what this program is based on.
He birthed your whole essence, persona, effervescence and swag
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Right. Because without him there would have been no “U”. He was right there with Schnellenberger and JJ making sure everything went according to plan.
I never talk about Luke, pro or con, but to write he “birthed” this, is without a doubt one of the single most ridiculous things I’ve ever read. High comedy.
Keep up the agendaing.
I obviously referring to Canez1 as an individual (he is Luke Jr.), not the entire program (that should have been obvious).
You guys never read anything anyone says outside of the resident “good ole boys” crew without angst and oftentimes respond without understanding…then talk about agendas…oye vie.
First comment in over two months and its immediately misunderstood and misconstrued to justify criticism and opposition. You guys are totally locked in…just as I expressed above lol.
What Lockleys competition down there in the VA??
Looks like a superior athlete
Miami: The Hurricanes continue to have a sensational run in the ACC. Miami came back and won at Virginia Tech and then beat NC State on a tip-in from Reggie Johnson. The Canes have shown more toughness and fortitude than any other ACC team. This is a team prepared to make a deep run.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/notebook/_/page/notebookweeklywatch130203/pick-n-roll
3. Miami is the real deal. If you didn’t realize this was the case already — which, no offense, would be questionable judgment on your part — then Saturday’s win at NC State ought to be enough to convince you once and for all. The Hurricanes’ dominant win over Duke wasn’t a fluke, even if the final margin was wider than anyone could have expected. Jim Larranaga has three big, effective frontcourt players (Reggie Johnson, Kenny Kadji and Julian Gamble), and the backcourt of Shane Larkin and Durand Scott is as solid as they come. The Hurricanes are playing top-five efficiency defense this season; they’re big, strong, athletic, very difficult to beat and quite arguably the ACC favorite the rest of the way.
Hilarious
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nz5QIZOYlPI
The BB team is real and extremely exciting to watch. Hurricanes BB is must see TV for me now.
There road games are getting tougher and tougher, everyone is already giving the U their best shot, but now it’ll be even more pronounced.
Shane Larkin is so poised and lethal.
Reggie is a man. He is the rock of the team.
Kadji should workout with Dirk Nowitski. I pray the Cavs take him in the late 1st to early 2nd round.
Kaji is super underrated. A 6’11″ dude who can shoot the three and isn’t afraid of the glasswork? I’ll take that. His only fault me be that he’s too much of a team player and doesn’t shoot enough.
Lol at the Herald they are just butt hurt that their love child FIU flamed out horribly after providing hella fellatio and cunnilingus to that program only to be disappointed yet want to hate on the Canes.F the Herald. Let’s go Ravens.
The draft gurus are saying that Kadji is too old at nearly 25 years of age to be a first round pick. They say that he should be dominating his younger competition.
If Dirk teaches him that consistent stroke (NH) (his jumper is already pretty good), he’ll be unstoppable on the next level.
I’m a huge fan of Kadji, he’s a sleeper for me and I’d take him in round 1.
Ready for lulz DK back in mix…as the recruiting world turns
So, we’re giving Kirkland a chance to throw our hat on the ground?
Super Bowl update: beyonce can get it. That is all
Kelly Rowland > Beyonce
Bittersweet.
So happy for my Ravens but poor JSK is beside himself with grief.
Canez1 says:
February 3, 2013 at 1:07 PM
Hes a prep kid.
Won’t count against schollies this yr.
Great athlete and certified goon squad.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
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bg1906 says:
February 3, 2013 at 1:14 PM
Agree C1
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Definitely Agree.
Really hope the kid makes it in this year.
This guy would be a Meast at SS.
Great Pick Up!
Been hearing lots of that. BG tonight wasn’t seeing it but hey each there own
Happy for E. Reed boy!
I still promote events occasionally, I brought Luke up for the FAMU Homecoming concert 2012. I use to talk football with him in the past. I remember when he use to actually make sense but dude has completely lost it. I wouldn’t believe or trust anything he says and I would never do business with him again. Loose canon is an understatement.
I think UM did more for him than he ever did for The U. JMO
Ravens baby. well said UMomentum.
Lockley as a RB. Brandon Jacobs clone eventually.
Congrats Streeter, Ray, Ed, Damien Berry, LaRon Byrd, and McKinnie!
JESUS
Men are such f@cking babies when their teams lose!
JEEEEEESSSSSSUUUUUSS!!
I haven’t seen THIS much whining since…
EOTH circa September-November.
I guess it’s good I have some experience in this sort of thing.
Favorite subtle Canes compliment in there.
“McKinnie replaced Oher and the offensive line got really dominant.”
Think about it, McKinnie replaced the guy they made “The Blind Side” for, because he could cover that side better than Oher.
Maybe that means Sandra Bullock will get to hook up with McKinnie?
Wait a second, women are not babies when their favorites lose?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ojfwbByL0
autumn says:
February 3, 2013 at 11:18 AM
is that the walrus?
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I am the eggman! Glad to see autumn is here now that it is winter.
Outie,
That bish is cray. That’s an isolated incident right there.
The stuff y’all say and the stuff I heard last night and this morning:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7nqwGt4-I
Trying very hard to just be supportive and sweet and the voice of reason but I’m THIS CLOSE to hopping in the Yukon, driving 1500 miles, and slapping the sh!t out of him until he acts right.
Oh, and Laron Byrd plays for the Cardinals.
Wait a second, women are not babies when their favorites lose?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0ojfwbByL0
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Man – JSQ has really let herself go
JSQ,
Those types of people in my opinion do not have any perspective on life (no offense to JSK). I mean there are far more important things in life than getting super emotional about your team losing. My teams lose i am upset for about 30min – 1 hour and then I’m largely over it. Outside of my fandom, the outcome of the game has no bearing/direct impact on my life whatsoever. One of my friends was so upset when the Falcons lost the NFC championship game that he took off work for two days. It is NEVER that serious!
KB I used to let it ruin my weekends.. I think this year after FSU on my birthday I made a vow not only let it ruin my birthday but to not ruin my day, night, weekend, week, relationships, work, attitude
Easier said then done!
Go Canes! Beat BC
Reggie Johnson
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8908744&categoryid=2378529
I get it, KB, I really do. I was no picnic after the Fiasco Bowl. Or Clemson ’09. Or FSU ’10. Or . . .
Well, you get the point.
Lol at taking off work because of a loss.
That must be nice.
Someone from the AD asked me if I was coming down to campus for NSD.
Maybe it was because I was also dealing with the grumpiest man alive at that moment, but I lashed out at that question.
Da fuq?! You think the people who told me I can’t take off anything but my Shiksa holidays in the off-season are going to let me leave this place before 9pm? If you want those donations to keep rolling in, you better let me work and not piss me off. Enjoy your fun little job that hasn’t stolen your soul. Go ‘Canes.
CO – you got a sharp eye
yep, time to EOTH for the winter
with the exception of basic heralds sports, i stopped reading everything because i got too involved in election-politics; couldn’t handle any extra negativity regarding d’no, sanctions, etc.
checked in here a few times since mid-december but never felt the urge to say anything
but the current republican party has me doing the proverbial smh so often i’m getting whiplash . . . so it’s time to get back to sports
Okay, I let losses go depending on the teams and the imporatnce of the game, but sometime, I just hold onto that loss, put it in my back pocket, and flip through them like an old black book that is missing checkmarks next to the name.
Boston College 85
Tennessee 86
Pedo State 87
Notre Dame 88
BYU 89
Alabama 93
Nebraska 95
Washington 00
Terry Porter 03
But then I put them back in that pocket, and whip out the BIGGER package I have in the front.
Penn State 80
Nebraska 84
Auburn 85
Michigan 85
Notre Dame 87
Notre Dame 89
Oklahoma 90
FSU so many times that I lost track of the years.
UF 01
Nebraska 02
You get the idea….
Well, welcome back! You were missed.
What time today is Collins announcing that him and Duke are sharing the backfield next year?
Cane lock.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
I agree C1. We may not get them all but good things start happenining tonight.
Adding Collins will simultaneously make us the deepest and most powerful offense in the ACC.
10 p.m. Greentree.
The worst loss (from an anger standpoint) since I’ve been Cane Blogging was the 08′ UNC game…Followed closely by 11′ VT, 08′ FSU, and the 12′ UVA (which was TREMENDOUSLY aided by being around the posse)
I had a big 7-Eleven sized cup of Iced Tea sitting on top of my entertainment center…When Kayne Farq’ had that pass bounce off his hands, to the UNC DB, I thought I was gonna die.
I was cussing up a STORM. Didn’t wanna do anything for the rest of the day. I don’t know what it was, but I was mad as a b!tch.
I threw this UM football I had, full speed, a my tv, missed by a mile, and hit the cup…
Tea spilled all down the front n back of the tv and all on the carpet. Had to scrub my ASS off before wife dukes got back from the store.
Thanks, PB
thanks CO
worst loss – dolphins at san diego; a conference championship, i believe; longest game, or something like that
I was in a fetal position for 2 days after FSU ’10.
I cried for 4 days after Clemson ’09. In the shower, driving, in my office… CRYING. Misery.
canes bb #8
= very impressive
HERC: “I’m not the guy that hates everything UM. Do I smile when UM loses, of course but at the same time I don’t mind UM doing well as long as FSU beats them. BG can vouch for the fact that from the beginning I didn’t want the NCAA to hit y’all too hard because I’d rather beat y’all at full strength.”
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That’s called being sportsmanlike, and I, for one, appreciate that! My roommate here in Virginia is an FSU fan (he went to Stetson undergrad; I guess when you’re in the boonies you tend to stick together). He’s honestly not very sportsmanlike about it, which is why I giggled when the dog ate his Seminole slippers–clearly, she’s a Cane (as beautiful, smart women tend to be!)
In all seriousness though, it is the right attitude to have.
Schwarma5: “But here is the thing, I also know we will never get to hear golden comment. I know that just as much schools hold most of the chips, kids/coaches are trying a whole new level of fukkery. And so sometimes you have to do the unpopular thing.”
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That’s because Goldie is a class act.
Hollywood Cole: “The effect it will have is when a kid gets asked “are you going to commit?” hes going to think twice before saying “we’ll see what happens” And THAT is exactly why they met today.”
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This. The []_[]‘s brand has been so devalued in terms of regional talent, that we have to show the recruits that we mean business. Marketing 101–make them come to you. The more exclusive something is, the more coveted it becomes.
Swanny I agree 100 percent with that dont make the UM scholarship a right make it a PRIVILEGE
#8 baby Go Canes!!
Swanny I agree 100 percent with that dont make the UM scholarship a right make it a PRIVILEGE
#8 baby Go Canes!!
Autumn, that loss didn’[t hurt me, because at least we came back from a large deficit. The part that hurt was how they lauded KW afterward for being exhausted, and ignored how Miami was a miss OT FG from winning.
Hook and Lateral will always be a happy memory though even with the loss.
i hear you CO
but that was the year i was thinking super bowl win for marino
(i think; unfortunately, my memories are not always lined up in a straight row anymore)
I just can’t let this slide
Autumn’s man card has been revoked.
That game was in Miami at the Orange Bowl, and Dan Marino was still in Pittsburgh.
Don’t let it happen again. lol
You don’t lose your man card for losing your memory.
You lose your man card for never having the experience in the first place.
/man card saved, alzheimer’s checkup card given instead.
Autumn could also be referring to Miami vs SanDiego ’94? We had good momentum on our side then between the 3-4 quarters they stopped the game for 20 minutes for a kids punt/pass/kick award. I think Stoyanovich missed a game winning FG and the chargers beat the Jim Harbaugh led colts the following week. Then got dismantled by the ‘niners in the Super Bowl.
I WAS the walrus… but now am…
One thing we can all agree on I’m sure, this has been the MOST topsy turvey recruiting season I can remember in a while….
Denver Kirkland now has a Miami offer again and many think he’ll pick us. I think that’s highly unlikely but with all the weirdness that has gone on this recruiting season, I wouldn’t be surprised.
All in good fun, and yeah that 90′s game was a messed up deal but Hook and lateral can only refer to the Winslow game in the OB
Trust in Al!
Short but to the point.
http://www.stateoftheu.com/national-signing-day-hub/2013/2/4/3950040/the-tao-of-al-golden-national-signing-day-edition-miami-hurricanes-recruiting
you guys are pretty funny . . . glad i brought this up
“man card”; lol
i’m probably mixing up several san diego games together
alzheimers check-up card; great idea . . . unless they tell you truth
. . . and walrus-man, glad to see you posting here again
If DK ends up signing with us then I will be pretty convinced that this whole fiasco was orchestrated by both sides as some sort of twisted way to get attention and press(though it will be negative). This sounds like some crap made for reality tv: Denver Kirkland gets voted/kicked off the island by the producers (Golden and co.), one of the other cast/island members pitches a b*tch fit (Tim “Ice” Harris) along with the media and fans (viewers) then all of a sudden he meets with producers and and is allowed back on and given another chance to compete. Tune in for Wednesday’s episode of Survivor: National Signing Day! on CBS!
autumn says:
February 4, 2013 at 2:56 PM
alzheimers check-up card; great idea . . . unless they tell you truth
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Don’t worry, if it is good news, no problem, and if it’s bad news, you won’t remember it.
lol, CO!!
new blog up