It Could Happen to []_[]
Two years ago, when coaches Al Golden and Jim Larranaga were hired, was there any question who you expected would turn his team into a title contender the fastest? Revisionist history and 20/20 hindsight aside, I don’t think there was a question – and we were all wrong.
With the ‘Canes new #3 ranking in men’s basketball – the highest in program history – the Larranaga faithful are growing in numbers, the BUC is selling out, and the hoops bandwagon is getting full. This, from a program who usually can’t attract much of a following from the same fans who support the football team, and has largely been relegated to an afterthought activity on a rainy Saturday for the 2 alumni that still live in south Florida.
The success of the men’s basketball team is well-documented and won’t be rehashed here ad naseum. Suffice it to say they are scary good and we as ‘Canes fans have a lot to be proud of and a lot to look forward to in the coming years with Larranaga at the healm.
What stands out to me from the past few weeks is not just how GREAT the team is, but how unlikely this success was and how strong the devoted following of ‘Canes hoops has become. Even the stars of the Miami Heat want to come to OUR games! It reminds me of the people you used to see on the sidelines of the Orange Bowl back in college. Jay-Z, Puff Daddy, Diddy, whatever, were dedicated ‘Canes football fans at one time.
Now, many would say those days are over: Gone are the celebrities on the sidelines; gone is the Orange Bowl; gone is Miami’s mystique; replaced only with parity across the sport and recruits being poached from our back yards. Better to adjust our expectations to 9-3 seasons and hoping for an ACC Bowl Berth.
To those nay-sayers, I ask: Did you ever think Miami basketball would be 10-0 in the ACC, #3 in the country, and selling out every home game?
Likely not. I know many still want to dismiss what is happening as a fluke and downplay Larranaga and this team’s success. However, I think Miami football fans – even those who root for another college basketball team – should EMBRACE what is happening in Coral Gables right now. This Cinderella story is reminiscent of the Schnellenberger ‘Canes and is proof positive of what coaching can do to turn a program around. Against all odds, in the toughest basketball conference, at a football school, with a coach in the twilight of his career, in Miami where there are a million things to do, this is all happening.
Call me an eternal optimist here with another Sinatra-inspired blog title, maybe the Valentines fever and my love of the ‘Canes has taken over my brain again, but doesn’t this – and shouldn’t this – give us all hope that it is possible, even LIKELY that ‘Canes football can come back and enjoy the same type of success? The excuses stopping it from doing so seem pretty petty and insignificant in comparison to those which the basketball team has overcome. Moreover, the revolutionary support that students, alumni, and fans are giving this team shows what Golden is capable of accomplishing with just a couple of signature wins.
So for those who have gone against Journey’s counsel and stopped believing, I have to ask: why not? Why not the ‘Canes? Did people think we could come back and be better than ever after probation in the 90s? Yet, we put together the most talented football team ever to take the field in 2001.
I think if Coach Larranaga and Men’s Hoops have taught us anything, it is:
GO ‘CANES!!!
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Canes are #1
Go Canes!!!
Nice first, HD69! You are #1 too!!!
Orange or green?
Close, Mom! Here’s a concilation jello shot for giving birth to me and putting up with me for all these years . . . Muah!
Orange please…you are so sweet! Makes someone older than Pimp, smile!
Thank you Mary! Love you!!!
Haha, happy to make you smile, my friend! Orange it is! GO ‘CANES!!!!
Love you too, Mom!
Great job! What we are seeing here with the bball team is very similar to what happened with Howard and the boys in the early eighties. Why not Miami? If coach L can take a team that was solid but hardly great last season to the top of the NCAA, I think Golden can too.
Thanks, Hollywood Cane. Obviously, per my Schnellenberger reference in the article, I agree 100%.
Good stuff JSQ!!
Good stuff JSQ!!
Whoops
JSQ U hit a grand slam with this article. U rock. Btw can the ACC Hurry up with the full schedules. Some of us have to plan the season out got to reserve rooms, and set my calendar for my vacation time. Go Canes. 2 months till Spring Game.
### Jim Larranaga said it “was heartwarming to me” when Heat fans cheered him when he was shown on the overhead scoreboard during a timeout in the Heat-Lakers game. “I was surprised how many people came up to me. But I went to Publix and nobody knew me.”
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy
Great article!
This is a head scratcher…
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/02/11/tim-walton-interviewing-for-rams-defensive-coordinator/
Greentree, the DBs haven’t exactly shined for Detroit but Walton’s put in his time. Might be ready.
Walton>>>>>>dumbnofrio
I’d be surprised if he actually gets the job. I have no reason for this. But my gut feeling is that they will go with singletary or dick juaron.
i love this article, jsq . . . well done
very worth reading:
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/75698/why-miami-should-be-no-1
have you all seen this photo? amazing!!!
https://twitter.com/EricHoudini12/status/301103742651080704/photo/1
new raising canes video:
http://www.hurricanesports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=206352995
this nicely done cote article on basketball in miami fits in with the “dream” scenario of jsq’s article:
http://www.miamiherald.com/2013/02/12/v-fullstory/3228929/greg-cote-heat-and-hurricanes.html
i’m reading too many articles that repeat themselves about the canes bb-team
. . . but somehow reveling in the redundancy!
. . . pls. keep winning; this is sooooooooooooooooooooo fun
http://blog.allcanes.com/miami-hurricanes-basketball-ranked-third-in-new-poll
another enjoyable one:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/miami-hurricanes-blog/sfl-miami-hurricanes-in-top5-of-ap-basketball-poll-20130211,0,314657.story
some football: why not?
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2013/2/11/3978042/position-reviews-how-did-the-canes-perform-compared-to-last-year
some more breakfast reading material:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/highschool/recruiting/fl-dieter-kurtenbach-recruiting-column-0212-20130211,0,255275.story
since i haven’t posted very much this morning, i’ll let you in on a bit of west-austrian weather: heavens dumping a bunch more snow on us today & tomorrow
. . . people barricading themselves in, like the central florida people during the summer
. . . noise & traffic way down
. . . taking walks with “walking in the winter wonderland” jangling my brains
great to be alive!
So glad recruiting is over, well at least for the moment!
Go Canes!
Happy Tuesday!
Check this out: Ole boy McGriff named one of Rivals.com’s Top 25 recruiters
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1471409
Build a Stadium near the campus. The location where they play now sucks!
Happy Fat Tuesday!
RB that stadium crap is lame. People who are regulars at Sun Life mostly don’t complain. Its the candy azzes that don’t show up. By the way u willing to help foot the bill for a 100 plus million dollar 55,000 stadium facility. And when you play FSWHO or Floriduh, or Ohio State, Oklahoma, or something u still gonna have to play at Sun Life cause 55,000 ain’t big enough for those games. Smdh.
I’m very happy with Sun Life, despite my irrational and nostalgic attachment to the Orange Bowl.
Field Club rocks!
So what I’ve come up with, after roughly seventeen years in the work force…is that if you didn’t go to college for what you do for a living…work is gonna suck great big hippo d!cks.
Exactly JSQ.
Lol Hurri.
Hurri, you can go to school for 7 years and have a doctorate annd it still sucks sometimes.
most of the time..
I heard that, Jello.
I hate Joe Robbie.
It’s too far from home, it’s sterile, seats are too far from the field, holds no real memories and most importantly, not the Orange Bowl.
My God I miss those incredibly uncomfortable Section U, row 24 bench seats at that steaming bucket of crap in Little Havana.
Sun Life is much closer to me. 45 minutes to an hour.
Or 35 the way I drive on game day mornings.
Don’t make me bring up Bethune Cookman!
Lol. I got out of that!
It was embarrassing telling the cop why I was in such a hurry, and then calling Shwarma from the side of I-95 to tell him I would be a little late.
I was so ashamed. I think that’s the only time I’ve been late to a tailgate since I graduated.
Aside from that game, I haven’t let petty things like sleeping or traffic laws stop me from being a punctual and dedicated fan.
And I was the first fan at Sun Life Stadium for Bethune Cookman this year.
I try not to make the same mistakes twice, even if it means waking up at 4am to put the tailgate breakfast on warm.
I will kindly ask Muffins and DZ8 not to bring up how I got lost before UVA.
I was AT the tailgate by 7:30am, just lost at the other end of the lot. Charlottesville is not exactly familiar territory.
Sometimes it doesn’t matter how many degrees you have on your wall, you can’t fight the blonde hair.
JSQ says:
February 12, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Lol. I got out of that!
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A wise person once told me, “You can’t fight the blonde hair.”
Works both ways…
I will kindly ask Muffins and DZ8 not to bring up how I got lost before UVA.
I was AT the tailgate by 7:30am, just lost at the other end of the lot. Charlottesville is not exactly familiar territory.
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Or how y’all BARELY guided me and Charles to the tailgate…and then had us driving up & down the road…after leaving us in the dust, after the gas station…trying to find some phantom hotel…And THEN convincing us to walk three miles, to get a chicken sandwich that almost killed me.
Through a very seedy section of Charlottesville, might I add…
[looks around innocently, whistling]
I think after riding with me that night, DZ8 had some serious questions about how I managed to graduate high school, let alone get two degrees from UM and pass the FL bar.
I’m not good navigating in strange towns.
Let that be a lesson to NEVER take directions from a blonde.
I also got people lost meeting Lamar and me at the Durham TGI Fridays for Floriduh/FSWho after the Duke game.
Speaking of, Happy Birthday to LT#36!
Also been lost in Chicago, Boston, MoCo/PGCo Maryland (which is shameful since I lived in MoCo), Columbus, Tally and Tampa.
I also got Sebas and I lost walking around my neighborhood when I first moved there.
I also took the wrong exit to Sun Life twice our first year there . . . and once in 2011 before the GA Tech tailgate.
Here ya go JSQ:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Car-Audio-GPS/GPS-Navigation/abcat0301000.c?id=abcat0301000
Brennan Carroll just tweeted welcome to the U.
A DT would be a nice Mardi Gras present.
Philly, I think that is part of the problem.
My GPS leads me astray. I toted that thing along for several game day trips, and had my iphone guide me.
My blondeness is GPS-proof.
The bat signal just went out. I would suspect its Chris Lammons perhaps. We’ll see in a few.
JSQ – have you downloaded the latest Google Maps app. Much better than the abomination Apple included with IOS 6
Rivals says its Raheem Lockley and they are hoping he’ll qualify for this cycle.
iPhone UGH! #TeamAndroid
LOL
Now that thread is deleted so PERHAPS Rivals was wrong. We’ll see in a few.
Now it comes out and they are sticking with that story. He was allowed to sign.
BG, was he the player going to prep originally?
Lockley said he got a call from Miami coaches two days ago – “they said they’d like to send me a letter-of-intent, and I jumped on it because that’s the school I want to go to. I started yelling when they told me that, was happy.”
Lockley’s coach, Josh Franke, told CaneSport that “He’ll be a Vernon Davis type, be able to put his hand on the line of scrimmage as a blocker but also can split out as well.”
Lockley’s grades are in order – he simply needs a higher test score in order to be admitted in the fall.
“I just have to get my SAT score,” he said.
His coach added that “I think it’s very likely (he’ll arrive this year). We’re just looking to finalize a couple of things … his SAT result, looking to get final results from there. Other than that he’s fine. His grades are good.”
If Lockley doesn’t make it academically he will attend Fork Union or Hargrave.
Sign and place kid?
Delray
Yes
That is it though unless we have some guys leave because Al said we MIGHT have a ship left and Alex Collins didn’t come so this had to be it. Not sure about his level of competition but he has some beastly stats…
Middlesex (VA) High School athlete Ryheem Lockley has signed his letter of intent to attend the University of Miami.
Lockley (6-4, 215) picked Miami over Virginia and Virginia Tech and is the 17th signee in the 2013 class for UM, which ranks in the top 20.
Lockley committed to Miami on Feb. 3 following his official visit, but did not sign hit letter of intent on Signing Day.
Lockley finished his senior season with 1,034 yards rushing and 13 touchdowns with 598 receiving yards and eight touchdowns. On defense he totaled 50 tackles with two sacks and one interception. He is also considered a good high school basketball player. He is currently averaging 30 points per game for his high school team.
Here is his film again: http://www.hudl.com/athlete/627267/ryheem-lockley
Looking again at the tape, the level of competition doesn’t look too high but he’s a big kid that can run. He’s an athlete for sure but again, I think we could’ve offered kids from home that are as good or better athletes that play a higher level of competition. I know Matthew Thomas was the big fish in the pond but I don’t care, in any year, reductions or no, I offer Skai Moore. He’s going to be a beast. Watch.
BG,
I agree about Skai Moore, but no sense in continuing to whine about it it now. The mistake was made, the staff whiffed so time to move on.
BG exactly Team Android.
Download? Ios?
I don’t even really know how to back up my iPhone.
That is on JSK’s honey-do list this weekend along with seeing WTF is wrong with Siri. That bish has been acting CRAZY lately.
Terrance.
What device do you have? I have a Nexus 4 and Nexus 10 both running Android 4.2.1 Jelly Bean (but the Nexus 10 should be upgraded to Android 4.2.2 Jelly Bean tonight).
Hurri,
Growing up in SE Va, I’ve travelled to Wahoowa land many times. Charlottesville and seedy just don’t line up!!! Y’all had to be way off the beaten path.
Latest bracket has Miami facing Frank Haith and Missour in the second round.
How sweet would it be to beat the guy who helped get us in trouble then took off.
http://espn.go.com/ncb/bracketology
Edmonton Eskimos signed Jacory Harris (@12JHarris12) and will probably be a 2nd or 3rd stringer.
Eskimos?
[rolls out space heaters]
BG HTC Sensation bruh.
There will be an academic casualty or two in store for this class.
We will see…
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Weren’t Stacey Coley’s grades allegedly an issue??
We really can’t afford to take any hits this time around…(although I know there always are)
MiamiMarc,
We had to first, chase The Queen, cause she took off like a bat outta hell, as if she was raised up there, her whole life. We were reasonably outside of the actual campus. (I guess) Then she had us walkin some beaten path, towards a sports bar…and after while, the stores and shops started disappearing, and it started to look like Erie Ave., in North Philly.
Lol. Hurri might be exaggerating a BIT.
Perhaps…but exaggerating is always the premise of great stories.
We took a cab back from dinner… After the long walk to the stadium I was done walking for awhile.
Seedy though? I forgot, aren’t you from Delaware originally?
Like that Wayne’s World clip… ” hey look, we’re in Delaware…crickets… Delaware”
I had forgotten how lost we got from stadium to hotel… I think Hurriphin actually passed us at one point!
And was that real bg?
Jellybean 2.9er android Mach 7 inverted flux capacitor jargon…?
Sounded made up to me.
lol
We seriously must’ve walked 5 miles to that sports bar…
DZ was ballin out though…Dude paid for ERRRRYTHANG. Cab and all. My man was a G, that day. Us black folks ain’t used to that. I was fully prepared for that good ol’ dine n dash.
C1 held the tailgate down too.
My girl Jello showed me that she down for the cause, when she had to do the business…I’ll let her finish the story, as to not sully her good name. Good times with all the ruthless posse. Whished we could’ve won (and raised some more hell in them streets) but its all love.
canes basketball
. . . the most interesting bb article to this point
http://www.stateoftheu.com/2013/2/12/3976394/the-curious-case-of-coach-larranaga-coy-frontrunner
bb…..4th quarter!!…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KR_b1h9JxI
After Canez1 sprang for the tailgate I had to do something to establish my G credentials!
Good article autumn. I’ve been saying that the Canes are going to fall back to earth after all the vets leave this year, and they probably will, but that piece reminded me that George Mason didn’t exactly have all world recruits. The team is more important than the individual.
DZ8 also may have lost a football bet…
To a girl!!!!
[cough - Mary Knows Football - cough]
Add Jontavious Carter and Dequan Ivery to the list of players who are suspended. Eddie Johnson is suspended indefinitely and his name has been removed from the roster. Don’t know if I’d expect to see him play for UM again unless he makes a drastic turn around and based on his recent track recited, I’d doubt it. What an immature guy!
*track record *
Looks like Ivery and Jontavious Carter joined 44 on the suspended list.
Kids aint actin right.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Haha my boyee beat me too it.
Dont care about carter. Ivery is an issue of course.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Agree on Ivery being needed, young man needs to take care of business
FREE EJ44
Go Canes!
Delray
February 13, 2013 at 9:02 AM
FREE EJ44
Go Canes!
^^^^^^^^
This
+10000000000000
Send EJ44 to a boot camp and get his a$$ on the field for next season
Hurri,
“Chase The Queen” could be a great video game.
Kind of a Tomb Raider meets Temple Run game, where you go from level to level, picking up Jello Shots instead of coins. The end of each round is a road tailgate where you knock down UNC, VagSt, and FSWho fans to get to her tailgate.
Available on Android, IPad, and IPhone. You can buy the GPS version for .99c more, but then you ignore it the whole game anyway.
Jsq, you got to watch for hurri and his “story tellin” skills. This is the same guy who hawked a chicken loogie in my cup of beer, ran a circle around the tailgate and tried to blame it on me. Slick guy, i tell ya!
44 needs to free himself. Can’t try to fight your teammates and coaches and then still not go to class and be hitting the OOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Bg, you are a damn fool! Yeah, you can tell him and Seantrel love Greentree! and i aint talkin bout no practice fields! lol
Outie, that is hilarious!
Lol, UChamps.
My directional abilities are very scary but I still can’t get over calling parts of Charlottesville seedy!
When I was driving back to the Richmond airport I was so sleepy that I took the wrong exit … at 5am. That was seedy.
Biggest crime in Charlottesville is that their streets are poorly lit and their stadium is full of a bunch of racist hicks.
Lol @ DZ8 with the clutch Wayne’s World Delaware reference.
Red rope licorice?
I’d like to add to my comment above: “racist hicks with tiny penises.”
I HATE UVA FANS!
UChamps.
I’m serious. CERTIFIED GOON SQUAD. That is GREAT for the on-field. Not so great for life in the Gables! Ha! He has to free his mind so his a$$ can follow! He’s LUCKY to not officially be off the team yet. They are really trying to keep him and hoping he matures but I think he’s running out of chances. EVERYTHING is on him now. If he wants to be here he will. I’m not confident.
Some kids are just wired with defiance and an inability to mature.
I realize many are a product of a very difficult and often disfuntional childhood. Taht makes it even more sad each and every time one of these young men blow the best opportunity for success life will ever hand them.
My God this guy has to be the biggest idiot on this planet. Anyone still think he has an ounce of credibility?
http://blogs.miaminewtimes.com/riptide/2013/02/university_of_miami_abandoning.php
Luke’s Gospel
University of Miami Abandoning Florida’s High School Football StarsBy Luther Campbell Tue., Feb. 12 2013 at 8:00 AM Categories: Luke’s Gospel
Uncle Luke, the man whose booty-shaking madness made the U.S. Supreme Court stand up for free speech, gets as nasty as he wants to be for Miami New Times. This week, Luke analyzes the Miami Hurricanes’ sudden aversion to Florida high school football players.
The University of Miami football program rose to prominence by recruiting gift ballers like NFL Hall of Famer Warren Sapp, two-time Super Bowl winner Ray Lewis, and the late great defensive back Sean Taylor, to name a few of the dozens of great Hurricanes who went on to have stellar professional careers. Those days seem over.
In 2010, during his first press conference as head coach Al Golden, promised Canes nation that Florida was his battleground state. He proved it a year later when his first recruiting class featured 18 student-athletes from the Sunshine State. “We want to be 80 percent Florida,” Golden told the Miami Herald then.
Now, Golden has completely reversed course based on marching orders he’s getting from university president Donna Shalala. During the head coach’s three year tenure, as the cloud of the NCAA investigation into the Nevin Shapiro scandal hung over the program, the U has been purging the football team of talented Florida kids. While the players are being punished, nothing has happened to the former Miami sports administration that allowed the rogue booster to do as he pleased.
First, Olivier Vernon and Marcus Fortson, two underclassmen born and raised in the 305 accused of accepting improper benefits from Shapiro, skipped their senior years to enter the 2012 draft. Two other juniors from inner-city Miami schools also left early.
Then Golden kicked safety Ray Ray Armstrong off the team for allegedly being dishonest during an internal investigation that he had dinner with a sports agent. Two sophomores who graduated from Miami area high-schools left the team in January.
The same month, Golden rescinded a scholarship offer to Booker T. Washington offensive lineman Denver Kirkland, which came as a shock. Back in March, during a high school coaches’ convention in Orlando, I was in the room when Golden and his staff told the coaches at Miami Central, Carol City, Booker T., Norland, and Northwestern, that he would never pull a scholarship offer he made to a student-athlete.
Even though Golden reinstated his scholarship offer to Kirkland, the young man signed with the University of Arkansas.
On National Signing Day this past Feb. 5, he only landed five players from Florida. Golden lashed out at the NCAA for hurting his recruiting of blue chip players, but there are more than enough talent-rich high school student-athletes in Miami-Dade, Broward and Palm Beach that can help the Canes compete for a national title.
Golden also passed up an opportunity to hire Miami Central head coach Telly Lockette, who has built a program that has gone to the state championship three straight years. Adding Lockette as UM’s running backs coach would have given the Canes the inside track on all the top recruits in south Florida moving forward.
Instead, Golden gave the job to ex-Hurricanes free safety and current team football operations manager Hurlie Brown.
The University of Miami has done everything possible to get the NCAA to back off. The school has even punished the current players, who had nothing to do with the scandal, by self-imposing bowl bans the last two years. The student-athletes are the only ones falling on the sword. They should not get any penalties.
If anything, the NCAA needs to focus on the guy who was at the center of the Shapiro controversy, but fled Coral Gables just as the investigation was getting underway. I’m talking about Kirby Hocutt, Miami’s former athletic director who left to take the same job at Texas Tech. Shapiro had him in his pocket.
I’ll never forget the time I met the disgraced booster in his suite at Sun-Life Stadium. Hocutt popped into say hello and Shapiro ordered him to fire then-head coach Randy Shannon. Hocutt was well aware of Shapiro’s bullshit and didn’t do anything about it. The NCAA should give him the death penalty by banning him as athletic director for life.
The way things are headed, the men’s basketball team will be in the Final Four before the football team competes again for a national title.
Putting a little extra shake on my lunch today,
In memory of Eddie “BATH SALTS” Johnson.
S.I.P
Smoke In Peace my brother
Greatest nickname ever
E.J. doesn’t want to grow up. He has to become a man earlier than he wants too. When youre on scholarship you have to grow up. It isnt the same college life for you that it is for everyone else. You dont get to avoid class, stay out all night bullishin with the honies, smokin and drinkin. I feel for him but he chose to accept the ship and play football, now he needs to man up and do it.
damn he makes Dont’know’d'frio look THAT much better. I need to see 44 on field. i was PISSES when i didnt see him at uva!
and their stadium is full of a bunch of racist hicks.
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Similar to the swamp. Can’t wait to welcome the Gainesville hicks to our stadium in a few months.
I predict a minimum of 5 brawls…and that’s in the parking lot before the game
Any cane fan reading this, get your tickets as soon as they become available. You’ll have plenty to watch on and off the field.
Lol u peeps got me crying laughing with the above mentioned posts. Keep it going.
Bg, as far as lockley goes. He aint playing anyone forreal.talent level in his division is meager, at best. I agree with the idea of getting a local project. But hey, they must see something in the guy.
Hey…Y’all know I’m defensive about Delaware.
Napoleon Complex.
Ay y’all…Don’t listen to UChamps!!
It was him who spit some kinda backwash in MY drink, and then tried to pull the ol’ switch-a-roo with the cups!!
No wonder I thought I had food poisoning, later on.
Racsism…in Virginia…? You don’t say. You know it’s bad when the Caucasians notice it!!
Like bg, always says…We family. And THIS is how legendary stories get started.
Jello actin like we weren’t walking through the Overtown of C-Ville…
And ditto on EJ B-Salts…
C1 called that dude’s aggressiveness around the second game of the season, and he was really becoming one of my favorites on the team.
This is a HUGE casualty. We haven’t had many demons on this defense since 03′…and he was/is one of them.
Can Fentress play OLB??
That’s another guy who attacks like one of those diseased, from 30 Days After.
I think I might have seen an early 2000s BMW in the lot of the restaurant we ate at.
So you’re right. We were clearly in the hood of C-Ville.
Straight thuggin…
Uh oh, race talk.
Cubed, the difference is, with UVA, it’s the locals.
At Floriduh, it is the students, the alumni, the parents, the ACLs (LT#36 gets huffy when I use that phrase as he is one, but I’m still doin it!!!), all of them are some inbred backwards mothertruckers.
I think 5 fights is a conservative estimate. And I think they start, if not the night before, at least while we are lining up for parking before the gates to the lot open.
F@CK THE CROCS!!!!
I hope ‘Canes fans knock out their remaining teeth.
I want to see blood on the field, Golden.
Let’s bring in Bath Salts for AT LEAST that game.
People like Luke and Sileo say they are die hard Canes but don’t believe the hype, hyperbole that is. At their core, these are attention mongers who say anything to further their own agenda. I really miss Michael Irvin on QAM, he is a real die hard Cane who achieved great success. That’s why he can have a much more positive perspective on UM, because he is fully self actualized. I didn’t even know who Sileo was until I heard about some anti UM crap he was spewing on the radio.
That’s why people like him and Luke do what they do. They throw out larceny under the guise of UM fans but its really about them trying to stay relevant, and it works. If you’re some 17 year old kid who plays ball in SoFlo, you might hear what a local coach or radio host is saying and take it to heart. Or if you’re a casual fan not really in the know, you call in to radio station and say “UM ain’t recruiting in the hood.”
It may seem like foolishness but this type of propaganda has far reaching effects on the program. But these are the me-first, look at me, listen to me type characters who will always sacrifice everything else for personal gain. Guy says ‘I’ like a hundred times in an interview, throws out a few legitimate names to attach himself to and then rips the program for an hour. Of course they’ll throw in a “I like Al Golden” at the end of the rant but who remembers that?
Yeah, Luke and Sileo, they’re ok. See.
I don’t care if our D-line has to bring machetes out there, I don’t care if I have to throw banana peels in the endzone when the crocs are on my side of the field, that Floriduh team is going down faster than their mothers.
DZ8 says:
February 13, 2013 at 7:15 AM
Good article autumn. I’ve been saying that the Canes are going to fall back to earth after all the vets leave this year, and they probably will, but that piece reminded me that George Mason didn’t exactly have all world recruits. The team is more important than the individual.
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agreed that this ikarus-flight of the canes bb-team is gonna be on melt-down at some point
. . . but i'd be REAL pleased if our fall to earth doesn't come until next year
. . . still, good point about george mason
U he doesnt mention we gladly would have had Keef, Bostwick. #6 and Kirkland on this roster today, but THEY chose to go elsewhere.
The guy is a buffoon. His whole perspective is skewed because Golden didn’t take some 5’8″ linebacker at Northwestern HE thinks is good enough to play at UM.
Great minds think alike JSQ
Rip their mothertrucking heads off and skullf**k those inbred racist ‘tards.
There Will be Blood.
There weren’t no Beamers in those last couple alleyways we walked past, I’ll tell you that much…
That area, was the part in the movies, where all the black folks in the theatre yell, “B!TCH…DON’T GO IN THERE!! Aww HELL NAW!! Wouldn’t have been me!! I’d have been OUTTA there!!”
Racial stereotypes are funny, because they’re true.
If you can only pick one of the two teams to beat this season…who would it be?
FSU or UF…?
Might be the minority here but I really wanna regain some footing on FSU.
“We” can live with a loss to UF…
(Quickly leaves the stage, as to not be pelted with wine bottles, silverware, and folding chairs)
JSQ u are on a roll.
Easy choice. One is In conference, one is out.
JSQ says:
February 13, 2013 at 11:53 AM
I don’t care if our D-line has to bring machetes out there, I don’t care if I have to throw banana peels in the endzone when the crocs are on my side of the field, that Floriduh team is going down faster than their mothers.
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Starting to sound like someone on the radio after the KSU game.
JSQ
You are cray! Str8 Thuggin!
THUGGA!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhcOTC4CtTA
I hate the freaking crocs. That definitely needs to be one of the 10 total wins I expect from this team along with an ACC title and BCS Discover Orange Bowl victory.
EFF dat, give it to ‘em both. We owe Floriduh one from dat TEBOW ISH in ’08 and FSU can get it just because welllllll THEY JUST CAN! Ha!
If our defense is playing dead, JSK is gonna have to hold me back from jumping over the barricade and busting some croc heads during that game.
Good thing we will have an extra long tailgate so I will be more sedated than I am now. No one wants to see me sober at a ‘Canes game, believe that, especially that one.
Anyone confirm Corn Elder as a new commit? (2013 little speedster from TN)
We STILL finding ways to get kids in…
New signee basketball and football
http://247sports.com/Player/Cornelius-Elder-10256
Kids stats are RIDICULOUS! But it does make it look bad that you say we don’t have ships when you snatch them from locals and you FIND them for other guys. Not going to get back into that but I can assure you those that want to make a big deal out of it COULD because they have some ammunition.
http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1472075
Elder is all state in both sports. Didn’t know um was ‘cruitin him.
Surprised he didn’t go to vandy..
Really good athlete.
Showed his A$$ in 1-2 espn HS games this year.
Prolly be a solid corner IMO
Plus he has a pimp A 1st name
Lol
From Rivals:
“This 4-star athlete had a final five of Georgia Tech, Auburn, Mississippi, Vanderbilt and Ohio State. He was set to announce a final decision next week. But after landing a Miami offer this morning that all changed. Don’t miss this big news.”
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Kid got a Miami offer this morning and basically committed on the spot…now THAT is someone who truly wants to play for Miami.
Bg is he a football or bball scholly?
Best part is we took him away from GT.
Welcome to the U!
Nash
Football but he will also seek to play Basketball
Elder is a winner first of all. He has won three state championships on the football field and he will take that winning attitude with him to college. As a running back, he is extremely slippery. He is tough to tackle, he is tough to get a big hit on, and he is a threat to make a big play any time he touches the football. He is very quick, he is shifty, and he can catch the ball out of the backfield. He is a tough player too. – Chad Simmons
2012: 2,618 yards rushing and 39 touchdowns.
2011: Over 2,000 yards rushing on just over 200 carries and scored 22 touchdowns. He finished with five interceptions at safety.
I would rather beat Florida for the simple fact that the only other time we’d play them is in bowl games because they are shook to put us on the sched
That being the case its time to bring the Seminole War Canoe back home to its rightful owners before we never have another chance
According to Rivals we now have the #28 ranked recruiting class. This Elder kid looks like a baller. Welcome to Miami. All hail the Elder statesman
He officially visited
Auburn, Ohio State, GTech, and UCLA. So he can still officially visit UM but we were supposed to be out of them too but I’m sure it’ll happen as he’s supposed to visit this weekend even though he’s already signed his LOI (at least that’s what’s going around).
I like the pickup. Tremendous fortune to find this caliber of kid this late, BUT, I’m sure some locals will say, I thought you were hard capped and didn’t have any more ‘ships??? Must be somethings going on behind scenes (dismissal, transfer, something) OR Golden lied. LOL
bg – Had Skai wanted in the last day he could of got in. Not saying it should have gone down that way at all (UM shafted the kid), but its done. Also,the slots we have now were created when certain guys didn’t come on signing day…meaning guys like Skai and this situation was relevant pre-signing day, but post, doesn’t make a difference. And food for thought (totally unfounded) maybe another kid has bit the dust…
Also,
One thing I will say though, is that kids like Elder are a dream. A TRUE Miami is my dream school type and when we offer is over and done. So many Miami kids say that and they play the game because they know they are highly sought after. Maybe they (Golden and crew) are sending a message. OBVIOUSLY kids like Elder REALLY want to be here. Don’t take it for granted. IF you really want to be a Cane and you have the opportunity, you better not EFF around and EFF it up because the Elder’s of the world are ready to get in.
Shwarma.
I disagree. At the press conference he said we MAY have a spot for 1 more when the Collins stuff was peculating and kept saying we were up against a hard cap and COULDN’T go over it. I’m just saying, don’t say ANYTHING because this will just provide more ammo and based on AL’S comments it has validity. I’m not saying he’s wrong, hell I’m all for adding athletes. But you don’t owe me, you, or anyone else an explanation, just do what you are going to do, be convicted by it, then stick with it. Like if you snatch Denver’s ‘ship, DON’T GIVE IT BACK. Because then it looks like MISTAKE. Be convicted by your actions. You did it for a reason, stick by it. You didn’t offer Skai, then don’t offer him in the 11th hour of signing day. It just looks corny. Yes Skai could’ve gotten in and at that point its on him but I understand his point too. He’s already decided to go to USc and then Miami comes LATE. Is he supposed to reroute now after we paid him no attention??? I know the same could be said about this kid, but he’s taking a huge chance. He’s basically signing based on his fanhood. That is great in a sense but is risky as well. Its a two way street and I can see both side.
Lastly every time I say something about the locals, doesn’t mean I’m talking strictly about Skai. He’s just a recruit I liked but he’s only 1 example. There are others.
http://www.hudl.com/athlete/158423/cornelius-elder
major lol:
“If we are both judged by our last performance against Miami, this game wouldn’t be on TV.” Coach K on key matchup (duke vs.nc) 2nite
bg – you help make this blog
. . . but pls stop going luke-y on us
Autumn
I’m fair. I can’t be so pro-UM that I can’t see the POINT. I’m not saying either side is right or wrong, but the LUKE point has some validity and no one wants to pay attention to it because it seems ANTI-UM. I don’t think its anti-UM and I think you have to separate your personal feelings from what is being said and if it has merit. Just because I may not like some one doesn’t mean they can’t make a point of something worthy of being heard.
Also Autumn.
I think I have traction of this blog because I call it like it see. Good, bad, or indifferent and I’ll always do that. I’m sorry, just how I’m built. I keep it 100 at all times. Like it or not, Luke’s contingent, and whether you want to believe it or not there is a contingent of coaches that thinks like he does as well as some that don’t, have a valid point. That is our 18th signee (13 OOS, 5 in-state). Yes I think this kid is a fantastic athlete but do we not have a TON of fantastic athletes in S. Florida??? That is what we are known for. I’m 100% POSITIVE the level of competition in S. Florida would DOMINATE the level of competition he’s playing. His numbers ARE gaudy but do you think they’d stand in S. Florida? Those are interesting questions and have merit. Could a guy like Darryl Chestnut have played Elder’s level of competition and not dominated? We’ll never know but that doesn’t mean the question shouldn’t be asked.
I hope you understand my point. Like it or not, it has validity. Now in all fairness, maybe Al is trying something different. Maybe he’s just looking for the best players he can find and doesn’t care where they come from. That is different from the FORMULA that has worked here and whenever there is DIFFERENCE, there is REBELLION.
The formula?
My class certainly had a lot of OOSers.
McKinnie, Shockey, Dorsey…
But I guess that is irrelevant because those guys didn’t do ish.
By “my class” I mean they started UM when I did.
I wasn’t actually at Lackawanna putting the full court press on BMac.
It’s a good thing Butch deviated from the FORMULA to pick up a 2 star DB from Louisiana whose only other offer was from Tulane…
Anybody ever hear anything from that guy again after he played for UM?
Or did he just dissappear like that other guy from Louisiana, Reggie Wayne?
Sorry, bg, I love you, but I keep it 100 too and “THE FORMULA” hasn’t been “THE FORMULA” in a long time, yet we were still successful without that adherance.
Indeed, sticking to “THE FORMULA” stuck us with some mediocre talent prima donnas who break out a parka on the sidelines when temps go below 90.
JSQ.
They were good players. I’m not saying you can’t get players out of state. You guys are MISSING the point because you can’t see past being a fan. I do think there are a ton of great players at home that really want to be Canes that we NEVER recruit. That is FACT. Not me saying something out the a$$…FACT. So when the locals see you going out of state for what is plentiful in your own backyard when we traditionally have been a school that did right for and by the kids of S. Florida primarily then are they NOT supposed to feel some kind of way??? Then we have to sit back and watch and you’ve done it too and say, that guy can play and I tell you yeah we didn’t recruit him. Randy did it and now Al is doing it. Its their choice. ABSOLUTELY but IF that is going to be your choice, don’t be upset at the back lash. That’s what I mean about be convicted by your decisions. You decided on these things for a reason. Don’t give some BS excuse because you are trying to save face. Just say, we liked him better than the other options available to us…END OF STORY. That’s all I’m saying. He’s the care taker of the program and its his job recruit. But as with anything there is going to be criticism and when you have the hottest football recruiting bed in the COUNTRY in your backyard and you neglect it and its getting PILLAGED for kids whom many had dreams of playing for UM because you didn’t even recruit them then there is going to be resentment.
Honestly, look at the BEATING Louisville put on Florida. SO MANY of those kids are Miami kids and MANY of them were NEVER recruited by us. That is FACT and I’m sorry you all don’t want to hear it, but its true. We don’t recruit our backyard as effectively as we should and whether you want to believe it or not, THAT is why Coley and Cristobal are here. I guarantee the 2014 class will be S. Florida HEAVY, in fact I’ll put money on it, who wants to bet???
Class of 2008 quickly comes to mind.
Lol, bg, yeah, I guess Dorsey, Wayne, Reed, Shockey, and McKinnie were “aight.”
I mean, they are no Skai Moore, but who is…
I just want guys who want to be Canes come here. I could give a flying flip what state they come from. Richt on JSQ.
Bg is right. I saw first hand in Orlando how scared those Wisconsin boys were of our local south Florida talent. lol.
Using Louisville as an example
Some of Louisville Starters
Teddy Bridgewater – Miami
Eli Rodgers – Miami
MichaelLee Harris – Miami – Didn’t Recruit
Nate Nord – Boca Raton – Didn’t Recruit
John Miller – Miami – Didn’t Recruit
BJ Dubose – Oakland Park
Keith Brown – Miami
James Burgess – Homestead
Andrew Johnson – Miami – Didn’t Recruit
All I’m saying is recruit them and communicate. That doesn’t mean offer them or accept their commitment, but we don’t even TALK TO THEM. So many say Miami never showed interest. Miami doesn’t talk to me. Etc, etc, etc. This isn’t a Golden issue, this has been a UM issue and has been for a while even with Randy. EVERYONE had this criticism of Randy and it was OK but now Al gets a pass???? Are you serious. Good for the goose right? I can add countless others to that list as well. All I’m saying is UM has to do a better job of evaluating and putting the EFFORT at home. We are getting OUT WORKED in our back yard. You don’t have to like it, you don’t have to believe it, you can tell me I’m wrong. But I follow this stuff like my life depended on it and I’m tell you we aren’t. Hell everyone makes a big deal out of Stacy Coley coming to UM and we weren’t recruiting him either until November! To further that Golden during his press conference call him the BEST WR in S. Florida! SO if you believe that, then why did it take you until November to start recruiting him?????????? You guys, all I ask is for you all to be FAIR in your assessments across the board. That’s all I ask. I’m as big a fan as they come, but right is right and wrong is wrong. NO MATTER WHO IS DOING THE RIGHTING AND WRONGING!
I hear we get to play basketball tonight….
bg, you know what some of those situations were, come on.
Also, to pin on Golden the facts that some of Louisville’s starters are not at UM? That’s a Randy thing. Teddy was recruiting against us at our own damn games while Randy was coach!
You can belittle my opinion and that’s ok. You are entitled to your opinions and I give you the freedom to disagree. No problem. But I still leave that bet out there on the table. You don’t make hires to fix a problem that doesn’t exist. Coley is a RISK as an OC but he’s a MAJOR plus in recruiting. As is Mario. Everyone that talked about WHY they were such good hires said NOTHING about their coaching acumen. NOTHING! Everything was related to how good of recruiters they are in S. Florida. So I’ll agree to disagree with you all. I’m not the only one that things the best talent is in S. Florida. The stats tell you that too. I just think its shameful how little belief you have in your own local kids. Its like having the prettiest girl in the world and still cheating on her. You have EVERYTHING but you want to be with everyone else. When that happens and she leaves you the rest of the world calls you FOOLISH!
I digress…
I’m out for a bit, I love you guys but they homerism irks the fuck out of me sometimes.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1269478-the-25-best-recruiting-hotbeds-in-college-football/page/26
Bg, don’t take your ball and go home.
People can disagree with you without it being a personal attack, man. No one is belittling you.
Although some of the stuff in your posts could be construed that way (words like shameful, foolish, homerism), I choose to believe you wouldn’t personally attack me or someone else on here because we disagree with you on recruiting.
Chin up, it’s a discussion.
Add Amari Cooper to bg’s list above….
Oh no Nash, don’t add him. Remember he had to come to CAMP first to get an offer while Bama is telling him we feel you are the #1 WR in the country BEFORE inviting him to their campus.
Bg, we have discussed this, and I think these issues will get resolved now that we don’t have Jr. running things in SFla.
That’s that.
But to go and act like no one who doesn’t come out of south Florida is talented?
Ed Reed was “good?”
COME ON!!!!
You are undermining your argument with that.
Everyone knows South Florida kids are the most talented.
In other breaking news, the sky is blue, grass is green, and Al Golden is handsome.
There are a lot of reasons we can’t/don’t recruit some kids and you know that too.
I think you are getting yourself all riled up over some stuff that Golden saw, addressed, and we should be moving onward and upward from here.
“homerism”, bg?
this is where i’m coming from;
- i loved our 2012 class
- i like our 2013 class
- i am still a firm believer in al and a firm believer in him fixing problems
- i’ve heard lots of good things about his so. fla. recruiting
- i’ve seen ice harris do something TOTALLY inappropriate; losing all credence with me
- i’ve heard someone named “bg” already say, that al has brought in even more recruiting talent (coley & christobal) = trying to possibly get even better on that front
- that said, what happens on the field trumps anything recruiting-wise; is our recruiting really sooo bad for you, that you need to keep pcing at it, like a scab?
- and i have to say, bg, to me, in this particular area of so.fla. athlete-recruiting, whether you’re right or not isn’t the point . . . we know where you stand . . . but unless we are really getting shyt players, it just doesn’t matter much to those of us who still believe in al and his ability to keep learning & get better on all fronts
what jsq said at 2:42
Didn’t say you belittled ME. But you belittled my opinion. We are all friends here. Its never personal. But that doesn’t mean that SOMETIMES you guys don’t frustrate me with your homerism. You will ALWAYS be my sister Mary. ALWAYS. I love you like a sister, FOR REAL. But even my blood family gets on my nerves sometimes. I’m not saying you have to agree with me or Luke or any one else. What I’m saying is that Luke and Kevin Beard’s and Coach Harriot’s and Telly Lockette’s and Ice Harris’ and may others points have merit. That’s all I’m saying. Are they 100% right probably not but UM isn’t 100% right either. There are issues, on BOTH sides and all I’m saying is that when you say we don’t have room or we are out of scholarships and yet you find 2 for kids from Virginia and Tennessee, then that perpetuates those feelings of resentment and I can see why. The numbers aren’t lying 13 to 5.
Also when I say I’m leaving for a bit that doesn’t mean I’m leaving the blog, that means I’m getting away for a bit (literally) because I am frustrated. I usually don’t get frustrated with debating you guys, but when I feel you guys are not calling it both ways, then yeah I get in my feelings a little bit. I call it both ways. I say Al doesn’t owe anyone any explanation if THIS is what he wants to do. Just say, this is the route we are taking and whatever comes, COMES. But don’t keep sugar coating and saying things that your actions say otherwise. So like him, them, or whomever or not, the point they are making does have some merit. How can you many of you who say you don’t even follow recruiting form a REAL opinion on this? You don’t even bother to care about recruiting so you never have to read or hear time and time again about UM isn’t recruiting X, Y, Z, A, B, C, etc, etc. So what happens if we didn’t recruit Stacy Coley and he picks FSU and I’m saying AGAIN, we didn’t recruit him. Then has happened to many times and not just with Al but Randy and Coker as well. Its a lingering problem and I’m not putting it on just Al, its a UM problem. I like our recruits. In fact, I like them A LOT. We got some players. BUT I still feel they aren’t communicating and working as hard at home as they appear to be out of state. That’s all I’m saying. It takes EFFORT and TIME to recruit. If Al wants to do it this way that is FINE but just SAY IT and that way the criticism can go away. We like THESE kids better than the other options we had. CASE CLOSED. Then no matter what the criticism is, you made your statement and it is what it is. But to keep hedging and saying this and that and they your actions showing otherwise just opens you up to MORE CRITICISM. That’s MY OPINION. I’m sorry.
Also Mary you’ve NEVER heard me say other kids couldn’t play. I’ve never said that. OBVIOUSLY other people play football too in other parts of the country. Please read what I said about time and effort above to understand what I’m saying about what the ISSUE is locally with the SOME of the local HS coaches. Our staff SAYS the right things but they DO ANOTHER. Again we ARE being outworked and out recruited at home. I wish I could share a statement Mario made when he got hired about our kids leaving and him saying, NO MORE!
If we don’t have things that aren’t viewed favorably then why do statements like these have to be made.
CANEINSIDER @CANEINSIDER
#Canesfam as we have been saying. Miami has new recruiting philosophy. Mario and Coley have reshaped the recruiting approach. Legacy intact
And before it gets misconstrued I’m NOT saying our coaches are not working hard. They are GRINDING obviously because it actually takes MORE TIME AND EFFORT to recruit OOS. But that’s the point! IF they put a bit more time and effort in at home, then I think the criticism they receive at home, whether that criticism is right or wrong, would go away.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000138838/article/nfl-suspends-javarris-james-for-substance-violation
I would just like to repeat my post made at 2:42.
Issue recognized and addressed. Let’s give them a cycle to resolve it instead of harping on the issue that has already been addressed. Sometimes the boss of a department doesn’t know how ridiculously incompetent someone on his/her staff is until something blows up in his/her face.
Obviously Golden agrees with you that we have to cater to the local talent.
But that doesn’t mean we can’t be happy about Elder, regardless of where he’s from.
Dang, Baby J…
Recruiting is only half the battle.
My main concern with Al’s crew is getting out coached game after game. And that’s mainly the Mac side if the ball. But now with a all new offensive staff, that just raises my concern just a bit.
bg “Canes fans” is a very broad term.
Let me just ask this-What undecided kid, with the exception of the kid from University School we’ve talked about, did we not go after from Dade or Broward that ended up signing with a major program.
I don’t know that much about recruiting but I don’t know of any.
And if there was one, did he have the credentials this recent commit had?
I’m positive there weren’t any of those.
I believe in local kids believe me. But if we are recruting four big local fish (Bostwick, Keef,Thomas and Kirkland) and we don’t get them, doesn’t that skew the whole percentage of Florida kids argument?
If all four sign here is this argument even plausible?
It seems to me we are letting the result make the argument, not the efforts made by this staff.
UM has a complete Outside The Lines segment on the ESPN right now.
It’s not good
I’m dying over here!! Overtown Thugging in C-Ville. This story is growing by the post. I love it!!!
BTW… I’m next in line to have a Baby Cane!! The Mrs. is 15 weeks!!! I’ve already picked up a couple of outfits. August 6 due date, so I already had to cancel plans for UF, but I can’t wait for Saturdays with the little one!!
Congratulations, Marcus! That’s awesome!
Oh, and August 6 = Leo.
We’re the best.
Congrats MiamiMarcus….
My lil lady got me wrapped around her pinky finger now.
She can’t even wimper w/out me 4.3 40ing over to the bassinet to see what the deal is
At the end of the day, bear this in mind.
We are talking about approx. 3 kids over 3 recruiting classes. Whether mistakes were made or not, why are panties in a bunch over less than 5 recruits over 3 years?
Nobody is going away from strongly focusing and trying to get SFL talent. The guys in dispute this year, a grand total of 2, said NO. They could have chosen come. They didn’t.
Why obsess over what’s already happened and perpetuate Puke’s mythology and misguided agenda? It sure doesn’t help the program, I can tell you that
Also, this Corn, is a difference maker. Is anybody else like him available right now? Either a redshirt or Robin to Duke’s Batman. Either way, you can’t say no to him. So getting him is the right thing, but opens up this can of false worms? I’m not buying that AG has some kind of anti-SFL bias or agenda. But other people have an agenda against AG and I think I know why.
C’mon man!
I agree with you BG, there is a faction that thinks like Luke. Even when Coach Shannon was on QAM last week he sounded eerily similar to Luke and Ice. This kind of talk spreads fast, that’s what is so damaging about it. I think Coley and Mario were brought on primarily to help recruiting SoFLo. It’s not an easy thing to do and Al needs help in navigating this the right way. This is an issue that needs to be handled ASAP.
Umomentum – what was the gist? Do they repeat that or is it available online?
I predict the 2014 class to be about 80% State of Miami.
It evens out over time. Stealing Howard makes up for losing Kirkland.
But bg pointing out flaws in our methods is no different from us pointing out flaws in the Miami defense. It ain’t perfect.
They are not Jeff Ireland level bad, though, so we have that going for us.
They talked about everything related to the NCAA and UM; football, Bball, basketball, former and current coaches. It was like they know the NCAA is about to drop something real soon and they’re getting ahead of the story. Some Um support at the end though.
Nash, wear shoes at night.
Trust me on this.
3C
IMO elder isn’t in the same league as Duke…. He’s a good back but wasn’t even the best in this state or this area. He’s a good pickup tho.
Knowing his build he prolly red shirts…live he looks like a 5’10 jacory harris…not knocking his just sayin
bg – I wasn’t attacking your opinion. I agree with you after rethinking my opinion looking at the situation from the 35,000 ft. level as we discussed offline and on here.
My point/question rather was: What happened/was said pre/signing day (including subsequent press conferences) might no longer be the case post signing day, and therefore if thats the case its not quite apples to apples. That is all. I might be opening a door to a theory that is simply not the case, but was just bringing up the point it is not out of the realm of possibility that in a week and a half something has changed that is making taking these OOS kids a possibility (which yes does feed the fire but if that point you have no local options then so be it).
Marcus, that is the BEST reason to miss the Gators Miami game.
Let’s see, 15 weeks ago….
Around October 31st. HAPPY HALLOWEEN!
JSQ, take note, move your start date back a couple weeks.
Canes Outsider
February 13, 2013 at 3:30 PM
Nash, wear shoes at night.
Trust me on this.
^^^^^^^^
Lol
I already know.
Don’t want my toes to look like Tory Holt’s fingers..
http://cache.deadspin.com/assets/images/11/2009/05/torryholt.jpg
This Skai Moore kid…
Never heard of him lol
Time to let that ship sail.
Kids don’t get recruited for a reason. Most times you will never know the true reason behind it.
Shouldn’t speculate…
GO CANEZ!!!!!
pb
You are going to miss on some kids. Part of the game. But is going after 4 top guys supposed to ERASE the number of kids that CAN play and DO pan out at other places that says they NEVER hear from us? Again, I’m NOT just referring to NOW. This has been an argument for a while. Remember when Al first came. He said he wanted most Florida and S. Florida kids and supplement it with OOS kids that he viewed as potential first round draft picks. I didn’t say that, HE DID. This kid IS GOOD. I never said he wasn’t, I never said I didn’t want him, or that they shouldn’t take him. MY criticism was HE said on signing day we MAY have 1 scholarship left when the Collins saga was going on. But in the past 2 days we’ve given out 2 additional scholarships. Not 1 but 2. I’m happy we were able to take more kids. The more the merrier. I’m happy. BUT I also see that all though we took 2 more kids, the 2 we took will further the argument about ignoring home. Let me tell you a few things.
Our Florida signees
Artie Burns – Was committed to Alabama UNTIL MNW hired Coach Fields. Coach Fields was a former GA at UM before leaving to coach at Hampton. Fields is UBER PRO UM. In fact, while he was on UM Staff, he was a VERY POPULAR and WELL RESPECTED UM INSIDER TYPE at Scout. He’s on OUR SIDE.
Jamal Carter – We legit recruited him and we got him
Stacy Coley – We didn’t recruit Coley until late November and us beginning to recruit him was due in VERY LARGE part to Donnell Bennett and his decision was LARGELY based on that relationship and the influence of his family on his final decision. We very well could’ve lost this one but it helped we had someone on our side.
Ray Lewis III – How hard did we REALLY have to work to secure a commitment from him. He was a UM legacy from one of our most popular players and his offer list wasn’t impressive. Just being honest
Jermaine Grace – Said VERY early on as a JUNIOR that he was going to WHATEVER school Tracy Howard went too. That ended up being Miami so that’s why there was never much doubt as to where Grace was going.
The point I’m making by saying this is that for the 2 biggest recruits we landed we landed in large part due to those players having head coaches who are PRO UM. Otherwise Burns would be at Bama or his dream school (he’s on record for this) of LSU and Coley would be at FSU. But because those coaches are pro UM we got those kids. With that said, OF COURSE we can’t take all kids and we can’t offer all kids BUT we have to communicate better and our actions have to back our words. When you see us offer and take commitments from kids OOS and we have kids that 100% can play and are interested and they are saying UM hasn’t talked to them or communicated to the HS coaches why said individual is being passed on then it causes the resentment and backlash and whether you want to believe it or not, the HS coaches have a large influence on the athletes if they feel some kind of way about you, then so are the student athletes. I DO think Golden and crew have made TREMENDOUS strides in making relationships betters in S. Florida. Under the last 2 regimes those relationships were strained a great deal. I do understand that its hard for us to get kids with the character, skill sets, and academics to get into UM. I get all of that, but we have to at least talk and forge the relationships with these people. Golden himself has even said that MUST improve. Because for every school that may not have a kid this cycle, they may have one the next cycle or the cycle after that. So THAT is why all of this is a big deal and why you it keeps getting brought up. Do I think Al will get it resolved, I do. But I think by taking another out of state kid, it will just increase the criticism. I’m not saying he’s right, wrong, or indifferent. What I am saying is that the argument has merit and how can it not when you look at the statistics 13-5. Numbers don’t lie. That’s all I’m saying everybody.
Rev. Dr. Bishop BG is PREACHING!!! Lay it down on ‘em, Bro!!!
Cx3
Your numbers are wrong. We are not talking 3 kids. I can tell you countless numbers of kids back to Randy we never recruited that are players and that wanted to be at UM.
Nash, I know that shot is real, but doesn’t it look like a bad photoshop? I mean, why would they even GO in those directions.
Shwarma.
I agree with that. My point for bringing up was that it leaves him open for attack. That was all. No more, no less. It leaves him open for attack and based on the numbers the attack would appear valid.
Bg, true. What I don’t get is that Randy and his cohorts are now pushing some agenda like Golden is anti South Florida when he had some of the biggest whiffs EVVVVEEEEERRRR with our local talent.
Really sad the revisionist history that is going on now to perpetuate the anti-Golden agenda. This isn’t a recent issue, and it certainly isn’t a Golden issue.
UMo.
Thanks for seeing the point. I don’t think anyone has an Al Golden agenda. I don’t think anyone Luke or otherwise want to see UM fail. I just think they want to see their kids get the OPPORTUNITY to be recruited by UM and if not to have that effectively communicated to them.
CO,
Last cycle was 10/30, so you are spot on my friend!!
I treated my Pops to the Canes vs. ND debacle, so he was going to reciprocate this year. We were planning on VagTech until they switched the schedules, so this will be my first year in a while with no game.
I will definitely enjoy the Saturdays with the Baby Cane though, so I’m not disappointed.
Nash – that’s up in your neck of the woods, so your opinion holds water. I’m going off of about 30 seconds of video and a what others are saying about him. He looks fast with moves, but I don’t know the level of his competition.
As far as Duke, I agree. Unless proven otherwise, no one is even close to him. Not even in the ballpark. But as a relief sidekick, maybe. But like we said, I think RS is a real possibility here.
bg I get you but I can’t agree man.
You are making every kid we get look like luck or legacy and every one we missed a screw up.
IMO there is a small but very loud faction of Luke lovers out there, but the majority of coaches out there feel like Edison’s and Hialeah’s coaches who say Golden and his guys are out there working their asses off every day.
They just don’t write ridiculous articles or go on the radio with an agenda to help their buddy who coaches at Arkansas.
The reality is the four we missed kept our scholly’s hostage, something we tried to avoid but couldn’t this year.
Despite that Golden picked up a monster commit today. Turning that into a negative view of our local recruiting efforts to me is unjustified.
jmo…
Marcus, you were tracking cycles?
How many months were you trying?
We went three years of trying before success.
Did you know you are supposed to take off the condom? I didn’t. They should have explained that in high school instead of saying ALWAYS WEAR A LOVE GLOVE.
bg – the number I’m using is kids that we supposedly didn’t recruit, or supposedly didn’t recruit “properly”. Not kids we were never going to offer in the first place. Why go hard at them and then not offer. I’m also not counting kids from down here that we offered and who said no, like Collins.
In any event, what’s the point? Even if you’re 100% correct, it’s in the past and even you admit it’s being corrected. I’ll even bet AG and puke talk at some point and put this to bed. I mean if I was AG, I’d tell him to go F himself, but he doesn’t have that option.
I won’t say this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZ60tcT17s
But congratulations! I pledge my neverending loyalty to the Canes!
Last year’s class was loaded with Florida talent and I guarantee next year’s will be too. I’ll bet all this nonsense will be long forgotten by 2014 NSD.
I don’t think it was to long ago bloggers were bitching because a former coach stayed away from Miami Central?
bg I tried hard to stay out of this convo, darn stomach bug keeping me home
Preach bg!
The Miami high school recruiting culture is different and tight knit.
We shall see were all this leads. Honestly I hate it all but I do understand trying to get the best deal for your child. Sometimes that takes you out of Miami.
Go Canes beat FSU
CX3 and pb as someone who normally agrees with where you’re coming from let me say this:
Al Golden has earned a great deal of respect from us for his organization, leadership and communication skills. Guys like Luke and other entitled coaches/players spit directly in the face of that, and therefore its easy to say F them.
That being said, just because your a blowhard doesn’t mean there isn’t SOME truth to your point.
bg is having to come off as he is ranting and raving, but really his not trying to shift opinion by a mile, but just a couple inches.
It’s not about some big mistake by Golden this year, rather a miscalculation which is causing him to make a slight adjustment (which he is doing by his own admission). I think that is all bg is saying and to what I am agreeing with.
On the Elder kid..
If so fla football is the best of the best in the country and is rated a 10, I’d say the comp Cornelius Elder played against is a 6.
Plus the team he played on is a private school and it cost about 30gs to go there per year…and they give out scholarships so the tssaa put those type schools in a different division w/schools like them and it only about 8-10 like them in the state and the rest of them ain’t that good. Plus they don’t always play the best of the best of the public school either.
I’ve seen him play a couple of times and IMO I don’t thinks he’s better than Craig Coooper. But he’s a good pick up tho.
JSQ
Randy was VERY MUCH at fault for this. Which is why guys like Luke say it can’t be the coach and he believes the mandate is coming from higher up. Calvin (god bless him) always said this when he said Shalala said we are recruiting a new athlete to Miami. Well guess what there is no new Miami so the athlete for the most part is unchanged. They suffer from many of the same societal ills and generationally they are a different breed all together. I’m not sure WHERE the issues lie, but I think its all based on communication. These coaches, this isn’t their first rodeo. They know how recruiting works. I think where the their are failures are in communication in explaining what we are looking for.
Graig
Damn Champs Bowl grass… smh
Shwarma, we know where your allegiances lie, don’t play coy:
http://www.eyeofthehurricane.net/2012/01/06/it-was-a-very-good-year-2/shwarma-uncle-luke/
CO,
I have not worn a Jimmy for over 15 years!!!
My wife and I lost a son to a late term miscarriage 11 years ago. We’d been “practicing”
for the last 10. I travel a lot, so we had to try to keep track of cycles to get here today. My wife had actually given up hope. This is truly a miracle baby for us.
Reveal party set for 2/23!!!
He should have sued, cheap Citrus Bowl organization. Smhhhh
Well this Shalala scapegoat will end at some point.
I think that is the most out of context any quote has EVER been taken. Just ridiculous.
pb
Not trying to say we get kids by luck. Not at all. You still have to recruit them. The point I was trying to make is that we BENEFIT from good communications and good relationships and that is why this is an issue and why its important and why Luke’s argument has merit. He has people in the local coaching community that agrees with some parts of his argument. So I think they only way to combat that is to effectively communicate and recruit the kids in your backyard. Recruiting a kid and offering him are two different things and coaches and kids a like are respect HONESTY. For example. Terry Richardson told Darryl Chestnut that the coaches would be talking about him in a meeting and he may have an offer coming soon. The kid gets excited and things man I may get a UM offer then guess what, ZERO COMMUNICATION after that. The kid is then frustrated, the HS Coach is frustrated, and when no one else steps in to remedy the situation you get frustrated people running their mouth. This type of thing happened more than once and Richardson and another assistant coach I’ll leave nameless because he’s still on staff. ARE on the hot seat for because of things like this. Again, I may have heard a few things more than some of you when I form my opinions but I can tell you for FACT and not just my opinion that their is a contingent of coaches that have these sentiments and not ALL OF THEM is it based on Randy being fired and the whole racial thing. For some it is, but for a others that isn’t the issue at all because Randy had these same issues and they have a problem with UM. They like Golden as a person. Even Luke says that.
Wow, Marcus, I’m very very happy for you guys!!!
Cx3
You have to communicate to them and not sell false hope. See my comment above about Richardson. If you aren’t going to recruit a kid FOR WHATEVER reason, be a straight shooter and tell the HS Coach why you are looking at other prospects. They’ll appreciate the honesty. Remember the HC doesn’t do a bulk of the recruiting. He’s a CLOSER so the issue honestly isn’t even a Golden issue, its some on the staff and how they go about it, but since Al is ultimately in charge, he gets the blame.
Thanks Shwarma.
Sometimes I don’t communicate well and that is a great example of why the communication is important. LOL. You explained that better than I have in a few sentences.
Congrats Miamimarcus!
I went into preterm labor with my twins. I was on bed rest for 3 months. I went from almost having 2 2lb babies, to having a 7lb 7oz baby and 6lb baby. I was too young to really fully realize that I almost lost them. Positive thoughts for you and your wife
Is Skai Moore single?
No phaggotry.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
JSQ that is cold!
Canez – I heard he loves Mariah and Gatorade, so you guys would be a match. Plus he now loves the cocks officially, so you’re in luck!
Bg – I do it for a living, so once in awhile I might hit nail on head!
Thanks UandO!!!
It is amazing what time will do. This pregnancy has been worlds apart from what we experienced before. We are extremely thankful for the blessing!!!
C1.
This is much bigger than Skai Moore. He was just one example. You follow this stuff as close as I do. C’mon bro, be honest, no matter the reason there are TON of recruits we NEVER RECRUITED that do DAMAGE in college football….
TRUE or FALSE
hehehehehe just being silly
Go on Twitter and look how many local kids, TOP LOCAL are saying that got UM offers in the last few days. That alone is showing a new change in philosophy. I like it. Tons of offers going out to the top kids. Not coming in late. We keep giving other schools a head start and we should have the head start because we are local. Al is a SMART man. He learns. I truly believe he’s the type of guy that doesn’t make the same mistakes twice. Not that he made a mistake per se, but I do think he saw some things they could be doing better and he’s doing them. I applaud that and I’m happy it hasn’t taken him a long time to understand it. Randy unfortunately NEVER understood it and that’s why down the stretch his recruiting REALLY suffered.
Marcus, Extra congratulations for that miracle baby.
Now, what was your wife’s costume for Halloween? Was it one of these:
http://chicago.flirtygirlfitness.com/chicago_html/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/neytiri.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-BmPEZkp19vU/TrL4QP8_KHI/AAAAAAAACDg/J9vlJnd6IaM/s1600/1875+-+conventions+cosplay+girls+leia+slave.jpg
http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/pi/mp/11382/6889613713p?src=http%3A%2F%2Fd3d71ba2asa5oz.cloudfront.net%2F43000051%2Fimages%2Fla120037.jpg&d=21e64cb9c6776498aee778e63f4b2ae974270bef
Lemme say this as loud as I can…
IT’S GOOD THING RS AIN’T THE COACH AT UM NO MORE…
But what if some in the “so fla coaching community” are pissed and think he got a raw deal??
Some may feel RS was let go for a light brighter version of himself
So great that Marcus announces his new recruit in the
“It Could Happen to []_[]” thread.
CO,
Believe it or not, I don’t remember when it happened!!! There was an outfit a little later, but the deed was already done by then!!!
I know I left myself open for “Jodie” comments there!!! You’d be reading/seeing me on CNN if that was the case. Jus’ Sayin!!!
Sileo and Luke are complete jackasses! He said the other day on the Sports Brothers that Ice Harris is the “Godfather” of South Florida recruiting and then implied that UM isn’t kissing his ring!
GTFOOH with that nonsense! Coach your kids up and then get the hell out of their way! Luke needs to stop jock sniffing local H.S. athletes! Anyone who takes his advice has a fool for an “attorney”!
As far as Sileo goes I’ve read that the moron is “on the clock” at wqam and will not be around for the start of football season. He can try to re-write history all he wants but when he was at AM 620 in Tampa he pushed Matt Patchan into the arms of UF! You can ask canechic, she used to listen to the same shows that I did. Dan Sileo is bad for business whether he is pumping UM or not. He is a fool that makes The U look foolish for having let him attend.
Go ‘canes!
Don’t remember huh?
Hmmm, sometimes “mindblowing action” is not hyperbole…
Sex is supposed to be fun. When you have to work at it and punch the clock, sometimes its better forgotten!!!
Cornelius Elder
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Sileo is not my favorite guy at all. He downed the program all the time when he was on 740 in Orlando but he was right about some things, things that made me mad at the time.
The dude is a sleazy, cheating womanizer but I still think he loves the U.
I treat him like Joe Scarborough some days I can listen some days I just have to turn him off. Neither my favorite guys but I still listen.
But he was right about Lance Armstrong, he got into so many fights with callers about Lance.
My thoughts on Sileo: He loves The U but has the same delusions a lot of our fan base has. It’s not 1985 anymore and Jimmy isn’t gonna come to coach and grab every stud recruit in sofla because the rest of the country hasnt caught on yet. The Orange Bowl isn’t going to magically appear again and the players will not be able to go crazy with the on the field antics and off field lawlessness. This is 2013 and Miami is under more scrutiny than ever. Al and co. have to play by a new set of rules in a much different world of college football. The money situation isn’t the same as ot was 20+years ago where a small private school could just say “F the world, we’re doing whatever we want.” I miss the old days but those days are never coming back. The current coaches have to bust their butts just to get local kids intereted in staying home. Big money TV deals and conferences mean Miami can’t afford to be a “rogue” program anymore. Give up the old mentality and embrace the fact the Miami players and coaches will have to work harder than ever to make the team a contender again.
How sweet it is when the crowd at FSWho goes silent!!
Shwarm lmao!! Touché.
Fuk off!!
Bg I hear ya dude but kids are not recruited for a reason and most of those reasons never come to light aside from rumors.
You and I may not agree but we are not on this staff and not privy to the info they receive. If they don’t think a kid is right for this program, for one reason or another, we will never know and be left wondering why the kid wasn’t recruited.
It happens everywhere.
I don’t sweat it.
Winning quiets all the second guessing.
6 was never coming here and says it himself now but this staff was very confident in him signing with us.
That tells you a lot.
Lice and crew were telling the staff one thing and these kids were planning another and got got before they were ready.
I expect a stronger hold on the recruiting game now that Rio and Coley are on the scene.
We win most and lose some, always have and always will and that is all you can ask for these days, down here.
The state of Miami is no longer and will never be again. Too many big fish in the sea these days.
These sofla coaches hated dent for the most part and it was well documented. You will never be able to please all of them, no matter who u are.
It’s impossible.
Can’t sweat the kids that get away. The overflow of talent down here is bound to show up at the next level.
Only so many spots each yr.
Bottom line is we will never know all the facts and our opinion will differ from the staffs, so you have to hope on signing most of the targets and coach up the others.
It’s as simple as that.
Don’t stress my dude. We are headed in the right direction so far.
I am the furthest thing from a homer and will call it out like I see it, you know me.
If 7 win seasons become the norm down here this staff will not have a chance to recruit these kids again. The axe will fall swiftly.
P.S. you can’t discuss recruiting with everyone. Like I have said, most aren’t built for it and the ones that think they are just don’t know their not. That’s why you don’t see me going back and forth with it.
It’s all good my dude.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
We got a 2014 qb!
My main concern with Al’s crew is getting out coached game after game. And that’s mainly the Mac side if the ball. But now with a all new offensive staff, that just raises my concern just a bit.
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Yup.
Also,
Condoms are for fraidy-cats.
Mom Dukes always said, practice makes perfect…If you “practice” making a baby…eventually your gonna get it right…intentionally or not.
And U&O will co-sign on this:
Twins are only cute when you’re out in public, and everybody’s telling you how cute they are.
Not so adorable when behind closed doors, when one’s sh!tting themselves, while the other’s screaming like a banshee, during the one time you volunteered to watch them, so your lady could “have a break and get outta the house,” and then later that night when one wakes up, and then you really have no other choice but to wake the other, because if you don’t they’ll continually wake up one at a time, all throughout the night.
Being a family man is g@y.
Congrats though MiaMarc…That was you with the twins, right? Even if not…twins are also g@y.
Whos the qb?
LOL HURRI! Oh the twin pain. Just wait for the college bills, cars, insurance (health cuz you can’t be in the dorms without it),cell phones, contacts, dental bills….ugh….you will be begging for pooping, screaming baby days back.
BG, who’s the 2014 QB?
Alin Edouard allegedly just committed though I’ve not seen Carroll put up the bat signal so to speak just yet.
According to some of the shit that’s been tweeted about him he’s a hell of an athlete with a pretty good arm. Haven’t seen any highlights on him yet though.
Also, some of the names the Canes have signed..
Augustus.. Cornelius.. Standish. lol
QB Alin Edouard
Don’t forget Thurston Armbrister already on roster.
JSQ says:
February 13, 2013 at 4:38 PM
Graig
^^^^
Damn that was funny
Officiating is atrocious tonight, both ways.
UM 74 FSU 68 final
I’m having a hard time letting “Bath Salts” go, not the player, the nickname.
Is there any other CERTIFIED goons that we can give it to? Gabe Terry?
11-0 in the ACC and 20-3 overall. M-I-A-M-l fight, fight, fight!
Interesting Golden interview.
http://www.theticketmiami.com/lebatard.aspx
Do give that a listen. Al was INCREDIBLY honest.
### Al Golden, asked on Dan Le Batard’s show today about those who say UM should sign more players from Florida than the five it did this month: “They’re absolutely right.”
Golden said he would have “loved” to find a quarterback in Florida but “we got Greg Olsen’s little brother, Kevin [from New Jersey] and I wouldn’t trade him for the world.
“We got the best J.C. tight end in the country [Beau Sandland], who just happens to be in L.A.” and Standish Dobard, a highly-regarded tight end from New Orleans.
“There aren’t many tight ends down here who signed Division 1 scholarships,” Golden said.
Overall, “we had six or seven Florida kids that de-committed from us. When you’re signing 16 kids and six or seven de-commit because of all this [NCAA] nonsense going on, that’s a tough number to recover from.”
### Any day now, the NCAA will release results of the external investigation into what it did improperly in the UM case. When Golden found out about that three weeks ago, “I was angry. I was bitter.”
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy
Here is Alin Edouard’s Highlights
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jB07t5O542U
The new commit reminds me a lot of…WAIT FOR IT…J12! LOL
Hurri,
No twins for me, that was UandO. I wouldn’t wish that blessing on anyone!!! It’s one and done for the wife & I. We’re both 40+.
Canes Hoops gets the win (11-0) & 2 new recruits!!! It’s been a great time to be a Miami Hurricane!!
I ain’t gonna lie…
Damn near every qb in SoFla’s throwing motion/mechanics looks the same.
With the exception of Morris and Geno Smith.
It’s kinda like how all these NNews/Hampton QBs have that hitch in their delivery. Aaron Brooks had a nice, clean throwing motion though.
Hurriphin says:
February 14, 2013 at 2:30 AMI ain’t gonna lie…
Damn near every qb in SoFla’s throwing motion/mechanics looks the same.
With the exception of Morris and Geno Smith.
It’s kinda like how all these NNews/Hampton QBs have that hitch in their delivery. Aaron Brooks had a nice, clean throwing motion though.
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That’s probably due to a lot of these kids attending the same QB/football camps growing up, taught by the same people
Hard to tell arm strength from what little I saw of those highlights.
I did see a pretty tall junior with a long stride that looked really fast. I believe I read somewhere the UM coaches were impressed with his arm strength at junior day. So for those that were comparing, I’m not anticipating this guy throws helium balloons. Would have loved to had Fisch sign off on him, tho
There is a young pro-style stud QB at Flannigan in Broward. Remember the name Ryan Stanley.
Broke the Broward County passing yardage record as a SOPHOMORE, while weighing in about a buck seventy. Already 6’1″ at 15 with more growth to come.
Mark my words, he will be THE Broward recruit 24 months from now.
The throwing motion does look familiar. Teddy throws the same way too. I have a feeling this will be a “depth at QB” signing but I thought the same thing about Morris when they signed him also.
HAPPY VALENTINES DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ya’ll will get a new blog later.
Since JSK is on a plane to FLL and we are not debating via text all morning about who loves each other the mostest, I anticipate that I will be very productive!
Corn Elder from the local paper….
One time for #57
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130213/SPORTS07/302130159/Ensworth-s-Corn-Elder-picks-Miami?nclick_check=1
What is this throwing motion everyone is talking about, specifically.
Exactly what is so similar about them?
Read the article…shoutout to Natambu Fentress for giving Canes coaches the heads up. Maybe Corn Elder could be a Graig Cooper type of kid, since he’s from TN and all
All this recruiting talk makes me nauseous.
Hopefully Al can actually turn into a winner again. My fear is that we become FSU; meaning we can recruit with the best of them but we are still a very average team that cant beat anybody worth a damn.
And no, weak-a## ACC teams dont count.
3-point shot: Keys to Miami’s success
February, 14, 2013
FEB 14
5:00
AM ET
By Andy Katz | ESPN.com
1. If you’re looking for one of the main reasons for Miami’s surge to the top of the ACC, go back to when Shane Larkin arrived and the relationship between new coach Jim Larranaga and school president Donna Shalala. Larranaga said Wednesday that when Larkin got his release from DePaul (he credits Oliver Purnell for helping here), Shalala didn’t hesitate in getting Larkin into school just in time. Larranaga told Shalala that Larkin had come from a terrific family and was exactly who Miami needed to represent the program — and what the Hurricanes needed on the court. Larkin may turn out to be the team’s MVP.
http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/tag/_/name/katz-3-point-shot
Maybe what Shalala meant by “new kind of athlete” was talented basketball players
There was a lot of talk and speculation regarding the Matthew Thomas / Denver Kirkland situation. Here’s an in depth interview with Matthew Thomas: http://t.co/smZ4tsqk
He talks about almost going to USC but his mom didn’t want him that far away.
James Coley not being a part of his recruitment when he left FSU for Miami
The impact of Golden pulling Kirkland’s scholarship.
How close Kirkland was to choosing FSU
Doesn’t answer all the speculation but it allows everyone to read between the lines a little bit clearer.
Seems like Kirkland’s recruitment was more about Matthew Thomas than Kirkland. Once Coley joined UM’s staff and informed Golden that Matthew Thomas wasn’t really considering Miami, that prompted him to pull the scholarship. At least that’s how I read it.
Anyways, just thought I’d share since it’s been the source of great debate on here.
It wasn’t about Thomas not coming to Miami.
Pulling his scholarship was about Kirkland not going to Miami and going to FSU with Thomas.
Looked at his throwing motion (Alin) looked ok to me. No wasted motion. Brings it up and releases fairly quickly. I’m not talking unreal like Marino, but I don’t see a lot of wasted motion.
It’s not like that horrendous Tebow motion, bring it up, lower it to his waist, rotate the ball, swing his arm back, wind back up, bring it back up, then throw. Kinda like Luis Tiant. All he’d need is a fu Manchu stashe and a cigar. Hard to believe he’s actually listed as an NFL quarterback. Wouldn’t be, if not for his bull running.
Can’t really tell about Alin’s velocity, but again, our coaches said he had a strong arm at JR day.
Having said all that, it’s a looooong time between now and signing day in 2014 and a lot can happen between now and then.
Larkin mainly helps because he is quicker than everybody else on any team and he can break the defense down. Once he gets to the basket the defense converges on him and leaves shooters open. Larkin is great at seeing those guys in the corner and at the elbow, and obviously they are knocking them down which is most important.
Hopefully he doesnt get hurt because the screen and roll is our best offense right now. Not too much movement on offense besides that.
Hollywood and Herc,
We will never know but everything we’ve read since signing day shows Ice and Onion were up to no good and were basically holding our schollys hostage.
Would love to have had Thomas but give me the two kids we got after the fact over Kirkland ANY day.
So Thomas was never going to Miami – at least he admits that.
He also implies that the reason, Kirkland schollie was pulled was because he (Thomas) wasn’t going to Miami. Wrong. Maybe the coaches did finally realize (through Coley) that Thomas wasn’t coming, so they wanted to check Kirkland’s status.
But, for the umpteenth time, and this is NOT in dispute by ANYONE, two days before signing Kirkland was asked to commit, SILENTLY, and he wouldn’t do it. Big red flag. So he was basically told, no commitment, no offer. Then the sh!t hit the fan. He was then re-offered 24 hours later. Those are facts. I still don’t think asking for a silent commit, 2 days before signing day, is unreasonable, especially when the coaches thought things were tight with the number of schollies. And bg is right that the communication in all of this could have been handled better in retrospect, but the coaches were not wrong in principle. This has all been debated to death.
The rest of it is all based on an interview with Thomas, so it’s completely one sided and dependent only on his perspective. That’s just not reliable.
It sure does help a lot that larkin is quicker than everyone and that we have some shooters on the team like Trey who can knock down the 3 ball. I think more importantly than his quickness is his basketball IQ. He is a heady player and very fundamentally sound. Dude can also drain shots from anywhere on the court.
We have a really solid team and everything you need to win the whole thing. A top 5 point gaurd, a couple shooters, a big man who can shoot the three and go inside, and a big man than can dominate the paint. The pieces are there. We even have a player who isnt a main key to the team like Rion who can go off for 20.
No injuries and keep playing hungry and we have a great chance to win the whole thing. Now wouldnt that be somthin
thanks for posting this article nash:
Corn Elder from the local paper….
One time for #57
http://www.tennessean.com/article/20130213/SPORTS07/302130159/Ensworth-s-Corn-Elder-picks-Miami?nclick_check=1
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D’Andre Ferby, one of Elder’s close friends on the Ensworth football and basketball teams, said Miami was always on the top of his buddy’s wish list.
“Two days ago we were in the car riding on the way back home, and he says, ‘Man, I wish I would have got that Miami offer,’ ” Ferby said. “And the next thing you know, today he gets an offer and commits on the spot. So it wasn’t really surprising, but I’m happy for him.”
The “new kind of athlete” thing is funny, because I have no idea what that means.
The old kind of athlete is exactly the reason why this place is called the U; without those guys we would probably just be Clemson or Oklahoma State. Not trying to rag on Shalala, but I just dont know what means.
Communication could’ve been handled better if the kids involved would’ve filled in their HS coach and parents of their possible intentions instead of planning things and talking crap about Miami to other coaches.
The big red flag to anyone that criticized Miami’s handling of this should’ve been the timing of Coley leaving FSU and coming to Miami.
And don’t believe Thomas for one second. That kid was always going to FSU. Give me a break.
I understand all the debate about offering local kids over out of state kids whether I completely agree with it or not.
But this particular situation has nothing to do with that. This was about Miami having a limited amount of schollies and not wanting to waste their time anymore with a kid (Kirkland) that they knew wasn’t coming. Thomas had still been flirting with Miami and his comments about having no interest are proof that these kids play games with schools just for the sake of garnering more press and attention.
And yes, Thomas is worth holding a scholly for just in case…moreso than Kirkland. A player like Kirkland may or may not pan out. Thomas will be an absolutle stud.
Thats where it gets sticky because you don’t want to turn anyone off, but at the same time yanking a scholarship offer is sometimes necessary when you don’t have the liberty of offering 85 kids to fill 35 spots.
Sometimes it gets ugly and thats where Ice needed to be more professional. Especially considering he worked at Miami and dealt with recruiting from the other end. He knows how these kids can be and when Miami pulled Kirklands scholarship he should’ve questioned his player as much as he chose to question this staff…especially when you consider his good friend, Michael Barrow, is included in all that trash talk he was spewing to the Herald.
Maybe Ice could’ve considered that his friend isn’t about make him look bad for the sake of Miami not being in touch with the local HS community. Maybe he could’ve stopped for a minute and realized he was getting told something from his players that wasn’t true as well.
But I guess none of that matters because it’s the kids that are running the recruiting show these days. They should just be aloowed to clown these schools and make false claims publicly all in the name of getting shown some “love.”
it’s valentines day
. . . so seth davis sent a wonderful valentine to larranaga:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130214/hoop-thoughts/?sct=hp_wr_a2&eref=sihp
Good article Nash. Did I not say that this would be the sentiment of some locals…
Chris Stock, publisher of the InsideTheU.com recruiting website, was surprised by Elder’s signing because he said Hurricanes coach Al Golden had told the media the Hurricanes’ recruiting class was full.
“It was definitely a surprise with an out-of-state kid like that, too,” Stock said.
new blog up