EOTH’s Top 25 Countdown Revisited (#25-23)
Welcome back for another season of EOTH’s review of the Pre-Season Top 25 Countdown. I think this sort of review of our expectations vs. reality is a useful exercise for fans. Usually this feature is done immediately following the end of football season. However, this year, I thought it would be most useful to look at this comparison right before the start of spring practice, which commences on Saturday, March 2nd.
As you will recall, EOTH readers were asked to use the following criteria when evaluating the players:
- The players’ past performance (in the 2012 pre-season, unlike every other year, readers were allowed to rank freshmen)
- The players’ performance during spring practice or last year
- The players’ raw athletic ability including performance in the weight room and 40 times
- How essential the players’ success is to the team’s success as a whole (meaning if he gets knocked out, we will probably lose the game)
#25 Maurice Hagens
2012 Pre-Season Outlook: With Lamar Miller gone, the ‘Canes ground game must adapt. Look for Hagens to be used in pacakges with Mike James, Eduardo Clements, and Randy “Duke” Johnson where the ‘Canes can take advantage of his size (5-11 / 240) to assist with blocking, as well as draw on his experience from 2012 for special plays where he is the receiving target for Morris.
2012 Performance: Hagens played in all 12 games at fullback, making four starts. He contributed one rush for 3 yards, 5 catches for 25 yards, one tackle on special teams , and one kick return for 11 yards in season-opening win at Boston College. His first reception of season came on 8-yard grab vs. Bethune-Cookman, and thelone tackle came at Georgia Tech. Hagens added an 11-yard reception against Notre Dame, a 3-yard rush and 6-yard reception against North Carolina, and one reception in back-to-back games vs. Virginia Tech and at Virginia. Hagens was named University of Miami Sports Hall of Fame Unsung Hero Award at team’s end-of-season banquet.
#24 Rashawn Scott
2012 Pre-Season Outlook: Rashawn Scott has a Golden opportunity (sorry, the Golden puns are hard to resist) this season to explode and become a star offensive player for the Hurricanes. Coach has praised his work ethic and it is clear that there is a ton of talent and potential. Honestly, we don’t know enough about him to be able to accurately predict his performance this fall after a good spring performance, but the opportunity is there, and a breakfout season from Scott is most definitely needed.
2012 Performance: Scott played in nine games, missing the final three, finishing as the team’s second-leading receiver with 512 yards and 3 TDs on 35 catches. Scott had multiple catches in all 9 games played, recording 39 yards on four catches in road loss at Kansas State, 48 yards and three catches in OT win at Georgia Tech, a career-high 180 yards and 2 TDs on six catches in win over NC State, tied career high with six catches for 72 yards in loss to North Carolina, and had 50 yards on three catches vs. Virginia Tech.
#23 Shane McDermott
2012 Pre-Season Outlook: This is Shane’s year to shine. He has the size and experience under his belt, and with Kehoe’s coaching to boot, I think he can protect Morris, make him look good, and help open up some holes for the ‘Canes run attack.
2012 Performance: McDermott started all 12 games at center in 2012, anchoring an offensive line that paved the way for the third-best passing offense (295.4) and the fifth-best total offense (440.2) in the ACC. He is one of six Hurricanes to earn All-ACC honorable mention from league coaches.
Stay tuned, ‘Canes fans as we next revisit #22-20 (Thomas Finnie, Clive Walford, and Brandon Linder). GO ‘CANES!
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Ice and his girlfriend Onion can suck it.
Go Canes!!
Patten Talks Miami Offer
by
Tito Benach
2014 Booker T. Washington CB Nigel Patten was on his way to a track meet when he got a call from the Miami coaches with some big news.
“Coach Barrow was on the phone and he said that we have been looking at your tape and we really think you can take our program to the next level and we want to offer you a scholarship.”
Patten was excited to finally receive an offer from the hometown team and described what he felt like.
“It means a lot. It’s a hometown in a school that is wealthy in tradition and with all of its education. It feels really good.”
Patten originally had Miami in his top list of schools and some might wonder where this offer puts them.
“They are in the top three schools and they have always been in the top three.”
The rising senior corner likes the tradition Miami has at cornerback especially with Booker T alumnus Brandon Harris being a former Hurricane.
“I like their defensive back tradition. Brandon Harris was a five-star alumni from Booker T who went to Miami and is now playing in the NFL, so that opened up my eyes.”
Despite recent events, Booker T has had a strong connection with Miami in the past and Patten admits that will play a role for Miami.
“Yes that definitely helps Miami. Whenever their is a school that feeds a lot of kids to a certain college it always helps so yeah that really helps.”
Patten s original recruiter from Florida State is now Miami’s offensive coordinator in Coach James Coley. He described what their relationship is like.
“Coach Coley is cool guy, he has a great sense of humor and he keeps it real with the recruiting process and he is just a real cool guy.”
Nice first, pb! Orange or green?
What is it with football players and stalking?!
I swear, every guy that has hard-core stalked me, like with real dedication, played for the ‘Canes.
I mean there are your average stalkers who crash your tailgates and what not, but nothing reaching the psycho level of a player.
Do they get hit in the head too many times?!
WTF?!
If he shows up places where JSK and I are this weekend, it is officially time to escalate this.
Nice, we are in his top 3. Isn’t the the same BS we got from his teammate before we pulled the offer?
Wow, not use to checking out the blog in the early phases of posting. Normally I come in around 150 posts range. LOL
autumn says:
February 14, 2013 at 1:07 PM
it’s valentines day
. . . so seth davis sent a wonderful valentine to larranaga:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/college-basketball/news/20130214/hoop-thoughts/?sct=hp_wr_a2&eref=sihp
Mary, Tom played for the Canes?
Lol, pb. He is relatively harmless – I think.
okay six – ready for your article on the “not-in-the-top-25″ canes baseball team article
OUCH! Bumped from the Top 10 by LyquidEnigma!
Ahhhhh
Tooooooo much time on my hands today..
Lol
http://www.eyeofthehurricane.net/2010/12/12/um-football-awards-banquet-al-golden-announced-as-new-head-coach/
that’s funny nash
. . . and whatever happened to allen bauley?
bailey
bailey
oops . . . obviously time to splurge on a new bottle of baileys
. . . and i’m tired; time for bed
. . . though i feel like watching some canes basketball
Pb
Come on man..
Why did u do it?? (Jk)
Lol
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-11-21/news/fl-hollywood-dentist-butt-kiss-20121121_1_buttocks-dentist-dental-hygiene
Canez1 says:
December 12, 2010 at 10:25 PM
I remember a few things about a night out in Philly a long long time ago.
The club music was so loud it was making my heart skip beats.
In the middle of the GHETTO we found the nicest Mcdonalds ever created . Place was bananas. The menus behind the counter were all flat screen tv’s!!
I was like what in the fuk is going on here? I have yet to see a nicer one.
The night continued into the day down to Atlantic city and yada yada yada next thing we know someone bit the barteneder and we were fighting a gang of casino workers in the 24 hour bar down there at 10am.
Those dudes stick together!! Fuk those freaks!
Good times…
GANGSTA!!
GO CANEZ!!!!!
lol philadelphia home of the nicest mcdonalds ever created
Lmao!!!
That was a nutty night. I will never forget it.
Running through the bus station in AC away from the cops at 6am.
Bananas!!!
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Happy Valentines Everyone especially to the host of the BEST blog ever, JSQ!!!
That post brought back some memories.
It was good to see Calvin still sane. Dude fell off the deep end somewhere along the line.
Sillyho is still a moron…shocker.
Wheres Rashad been? Havent heard from that dude in forever!! Caneslegend too.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Canez I was really tripping on how u and Cal were like Goldie and NoD….bff’s
Lol…
Someone ask was Shannon at the banquet you said yeah parking cars…I died lol…
A lot of folks went Mia 4 real
MM01, Randy, caneslegand, cav pops one every now and then….
Deserve Victory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAIuvufEdIU&feature=em-uploademail
Nash lol I know!!
Cal and I go waaaay back. Dude got wild all of the sudden and couldnt reel it in. Its a shame. He was part of the original crew with Este, PB, CC, Cav and a few others.
YEARS of back n forth with these guys.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
I still remember back when I though E-Chatting was for nerdy-azz, phuck-boys…
Either I got nerdier…Or you guys got cooler.
We ain’t cool…
way back is when I worked with bg and he was telling me about Omar’s blog. Had to let him know I post on their all the time. He recognized the name but didn’t know it was me. Got that man posting and look at him now. Can’t shut him up.
and i’m cooler than cool…
i think i miss sailor, randy & mike the most
. . . but good to see dz8 back out of the rabbit hole
Thank the iPad
Thank you IPad,
For Angry Birds, which I still play every now and then.
For Pandora, so I can listen to Crunk while walking past a nun with no shame.
For Song Pop, which lets me know that other people have NO CLUE about 1950s music unless they are too old to HAVE an IPad.
Oh and for the return of our favorite DV8, DZ8!
Counselor: NCAA claiming attorney-client privelige with the midget’s attorney M. E. Perez.
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21703756/ncaa-revealed-relationship-with-shapiro-attorney-prior-to-public-disclosure
I realize that’s their right, since Perez has in essence not only been representing the midget, but the NCAA as well.
But wouldn’t it show good faith, and a spirit of cooperation, for them to waive that privelige.
F the NCAA. There’s going to be a real legal fight if they try to hose us with significantly harsher penalties.
Speaking of the NCAA: Isn’t today supposed to be the day when they reveal the results of their internal investigation? After all, the NCAA did state last week that they will have the results in by the end of this week.
CFKB – I’m starting to think they may delay, but who knows
I just find it mind boggling that no one is getting on the fact that the NCAA is claiming attorney-client privelige with Perez. Their goose is cooked if that’s what they’re falling back on.
CCC, no matter how snafued their procedure is, their goose is not cooked, because we have no recourse if they choose to punish us using all the hate and hype they want.
We get the NOA, we nitpick it, appeal, they remove a few to make it look good, and then use us as an “example” anyway.
Then what? there are no punishment guidelines, so they get to choose the level of our sanctions, and we have to accept them.
Expecting mercy from a group that hired a Gator to threaten every Cane that ever beat her team, just because they PRETEND to have a conscience, is just wrong.
Expect them to put USC level sanctions to prove that they are not biased against USC, rather than give us less and have folks in LA whine even more about unfairness.
Of course, other schools will know that they will not get that treatment, since the “new” NCAA will never abuse their own rules again, but that won’t help us one bit.
Still, as long as they don’t screw with this year’s basketball run, we should be fine even if they hand down 5 spots by 5 years in scholarship losses.
They can’t claim A/C privilege there, dealing with a similar issue right now.
Not only is it barred by case law and multiple statutes, it violates several ethical rules for all licensed attorneys involved in this.
I’m just telling you what the article’s author wrote.
“Humphrey also told people related to the case that the NCAA was going to claim it had an attorney-client privilege with Perez, according to two sources.”
Humphrey is NCAA enforcement official LuAnn Humphrey. So if Dodd’s sources are correct, the NCAA will claim atty-client privelige with Perez. It’s hard to believe, but read it for yourself. If true, this is HUGE.
What’s next, Mark Emmert doing the perp walk?
Good morning all.
Yeah, Cubed, not attacking the messanger, just saying, they obviously don’t know what they are doing.
This is what happens when you take legal advice from a Floriduh grad…
You can’t seek information from another party, and a potentially adverse one at that, and call the communications A/C privileged.
The ramifications for such a precedent are mind-blowing. Basically anything would fall under the privilege then, and it doesn’t.
Not to mention, they would still have to disclose the frequency, manner, and specific subject of the communications – they can’t just make a blanket objection.
Idiots…
Thanks for the legal perspective.
From a lay perspective, it just looks like a clown show to me. But one in which the joke’s on us. We’ve already been hurt enough by this out-of-control witch hunt.
CanesCanesCanes says:
February 15, 2013 at 12:18 PM
Thanks for the legal perspective.
From a lay perspective, it just looks like a clown show to me. But one in which the joke’s on us. We’ve already been hurt enough by this out-of-control witch hunt.
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well said, triple c . . . totally agree
good post CO (10:55)
thanks for the legalese, jsq
LOL . . . from someone named “kirjax” on CanesInsider:
“There needs to be an investigation into the investigation of the investigation so we can get to the bottom of this investigation. But they won’t be able to get into the investigation until they get to the bottom of the investigation but no one is sure who is investigating who for what any more. But they ARE investigating so everyone remain calm and wait for the investigation to run its course so the real investigation can proceed.”
ITU reporting Cristobal interviewing for Bama OL coaching job
i enjoyed this article, not there’s much new:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/um-hurricanes/fl-miami-basketball-rise-jim-larranaga-0215-20130214,0,1150149.story
Thanks for the article Autumn. While reading it i noticed similarities between Coach L and AG. I think the reason for the success so quickly is for two reasons. One it is easier to turn things around in basketball sooner than football esp with the way our program was left (I really wish AG’ first year wasnt with Jacory and the guys who dipped that was a year off) and Two he has a team full of upperclassmen or atleast the key pieces except Larkin ie. RJ, Kadji whose like 25, Trey, Rion, Scott
The similarities I saw are here:
“I know coach Haith had a plan, but it’s just the way Coach L goes about it,” Brown said. “They way he laid it out and put in the foundation last year and really getting us to buy into the system was the main thing.”
Methodically structured practices are paramount to the plan. Larranaga has notebooks on top of notebooks of every practice plan he’s devised in 28 years as a head coach. No detail is too small, every dribble, pass and layup matters in Larragana’s program.
But he’s not the task-master type who rules by force.
Larranaga finds ways to relate to the 20-somethings on his team. They really respond to the pre-practice circle where a coach shares an inspirational quote and the meaning behind it. He’s a youthful 63-year old even if he walks with two artificial hips.
Cristobal leaving so soon would be annoying wtf
I want to know who wins one on one in their prime:
Jordan vs Lebron
Jordan vs Kobe
Kobe vs Lebron
PhillyCane
February 15, 2013 at 2:46 PM
Cristobal leaving so soon would be annoying wtf
^^^^^^^^
Wassup with this.????
Ain’t heard nothin about it.
If bama wants u to interview, you do it.
End of story.
Nothing to see here.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Being I demand = raise
for stats-buffs:
http://www.hurricanesports.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=28700&ATCLID=206416263
Shwarm gets it.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Duke Johnson @DukeJohnson_8
It’s funny how everybody grew up a cane fan and always dream of being one but end up els where……
I leave the U blob-world for a couple months and the whole damned planet is turned upside down.
For the record Y’ALL ARE HILARIOUS!!!! LOL. Viewing from a distance is simply CLASSIC.
Mary, a thousand thanks for this darlin’. And the same to all y’all Veterans and the new names.
For starters, glad to see E Reed get his other ring and glad to see Ray go out on top. That was truly beautiful story-book right there.
Second, I have to say after reviewing all the posts I’m agreeing with BG about the way the staff handled the recruiting this year. Goldie is making some TACTICAL mistakes which is costing him his STRATEGY. But hopefully he meant what he said about learning.
I KNEW Jedd wouldn’t be around long BUT I like Coley’s pedigree,and he’s clearly hungry to leave FSU. He also will be the recruiter that Jedd probably wasn’t. A++ for Goldie.
BUT IS NO’D STILL AROUND???? Yes, of course. And I see he’s down a couple of LBs, although some of the recruits may be able to step in immediately, so we’ll see. The question is, IF HE STINKS IT UP AGAIN AND WE CAN ONLY WIN BY SCORING 50 PPG DOES HE GET THE AX?????
Goldie’s going hard on recruits and players, let’s make it 360 of hardness, like JJ did it.
And finally…..ZAKK….FUK AFRICA AND EUROPE. I don’t give a fuk about EITHER OF THEM. The only GENOME you’ll find in these veins are STARS AND STRIPES. Afros and Euros don’t mean shyt to U.S. Steel. But all they want to do is be American anyway. That’s what happens when you WIN. Don’t believe me? Ask Team Nigeria that got stomped by Team USA in record fashion this past summer.
You sound friggin ridiculous talking about some shyt 400 years ago as if the following 400 years didn’t take place. The following 400 years made the country that sits at the center of the goddam GLOBE- ALL THE BLOOD, ALL THE SACRIFICE, ALL THE SWEAT. And guess what- A WHOLE BUNCH OF SO-CALLED “WHITE PEOPLE” WENT THROUGH THE SAME SHYT.
What? You think it’s easy to make STEEL??
And you talk about these young Americans who don’t have a clue between their ears. Guess what?? IT’S BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT NI88A MENTALITY AND IDENTITY THAT YOU HAVE. Just like MICHELLE OBAMA’S DADDY DID. Which is EXACTLY what that Virginia farmer wanted YOU TO THINK 300 years ago. And like a good, obedient slave you’re still in that “black box”.
So stay in that little bitty black box and watch these boys destroy themselves and try to tell them about Africa….
And don’t get me started on that disgrace in the white house………but you don’t care because this country isn’t yours anyway is it? You’re such an eternal victim you’re just happy to think someone “black” “achieved” something. It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside….lol
I’m out….
Methinks Duke is little naive about people and life in general.
This was about a six on a ten scale of Cav flounce posts. He’s rusty apparently from his layoff.
I think Duke is spot on. Either u down or u not.
Don’t see anyone getting job offers or interviews on the defensive side of the ball.
Miss JSQ –
Here’s what your friend is saying about you on TOS
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Don’t worry Terrance, U are still eligible for dating Mrs. Feliciano or a drunk blond chic from some other tailgate IF U get my drift? LOL
Posted by: 86Cane | February 15, 2013 at 08:17 PM
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I guess he thinks he’s a pimp. Fat, bald, stupid, bitter and angry is how balloon head rolls
Thank you Cane Outsider.
good morning eoth
. . . cav, don’t forget your medication today
the REAL thruth of Matthew Thomas….
http://floridastate.247sports.com/Article/5-Star-LB-Matthew-Thomas-details-his-recruitment-and-decision-116622
good find bori
Happy Saturday!
Big game today Go Canes!
PS – I hope Shane is wearing the yellow neon today, don’t change the shoes this close to the end of the season. Sorry I try not to believe in this superstition stuff but I live with some serious hockey fans!
It’s not crazy if it works.
what is the “big game” today, cc?
mens basketball is tomorrow
. . . something else goin’ on
Oh autumn I thought it was today
I have to adjust my cleaning day, ugh that means cleaning today
Damn. Matt Thomas is a confused soul. Who seems like a bit of a liar. THe things he said in that article sound regurgitated and made little to no sense.
U Champs – he was never ever never coming to Miami, he knew it, yet he led this staff on for a year, at least. I wonder if his own HS coaches were aware. They better not have been, but who knows. Bottom line is we got played, when Coley got here, he let our staff know what was up. We wasted a lot of time with this kid when we had NO CHANCE at all. USC had a better chance than we did.
I trust Lice and Lice Jr.
We fuked up, of course.
Lice didnt even attend the post fallout sit down. Me thinks he was a little embarrased.
The mighty BTW pipeline is ova!
Al too white for this.
Other schools dont do this, oh wait…
Lol
Waaaay too many folks waaaaay to quick to shyt on the program they supposedly love for silly, stupit, selfish reasons.
Cracks me up to see the vultures on site immediately before the facts are known.
Let the agendas agenda.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
In all things, most times, eventually some close facsimile of the truth comes out.
Amazing how people jump to conclusions with just minimal shreds of information. And not just conclusions, but absolute judgements.
If you want to fault this staff, fault them for not sniffing out Thomas’ intentions sooner. You can say they were ham handed with how they handled Kirkland, but please don’t talk to me about trust, when, based on what’s been revealed so far, it’s our coaching staff that handled themselves honorably.
I LMFAO when I read these two kids saying they couldn’t TRUST the Miami coaches, when they were the ones being deceptive. Again, Miami yanked themselves honestly and honorably.
I recommend that Thomas and Kirkland go to a dictionary and look up the meaning of the word “irony” before they start throwing out the trust card.
Again, Miami yanked themselves honestly and honorably.
Stupit spellcheck. That was funny – “yanked” themselves
Should have read: Again, Miami HANDLED themselves honestly and honorably.
so “handling” yourself and “yanking” yourself are the same thing at spellcheck?
. . . guess we know where joe pa’s former staff wound up getting work at
Reading that interview with M.Thomas shows you why you don’t go out trying to recruit everybody and there mom. You waste too many resources on a guy who’s not even considering you. Kids lie, but I think many can be seen through. Just like Duke said, everybody talking about how they want to be Hurricanes, yet they end up elsewhere, WTF? Get the top tier kids regardless of where they are, getting Florida kids does bring a bigger sense of pride in playing for the hometown team, but hell kids from other places can definitely play a role in the success of the team. Kids have to also fit into the system that you’re running as well.
Honorably yanked… huhuhu (my Butthead laugh)
I wonder the last 5 national champions what state made up the majority of the players on the team
autumn – hilarious that I was called “negative” and “bashing” the Canes relentlessly on TOS & making love to “the Gaytor”, when I would talk about Canes baseball and how far it has fallen … when I had nothing but stats and well … reality … to back up everything I said
I put Jim Morris and Canes Baseball on the hot seat 4 to 5 years ago. The program hasn’t progressed whatsoever, in reality, it regressed tremendously … same mistakes, both mental and physical, while Kevin O’Sullivan (who if anyone has a 50th of a f*cking brain about college baseball knew about what a great coach he was at Clemson) took over the program at UiF with his two badass assistants and has owned the state of Florida – esp. the Canes
It’s not bashing if it’s factual and I can tell you what you should be doing from the stands before it happens – and it actually happens, just like I called it. That’s sad
Tom has gone off the f*cking reservation. Never had a problem with the guy, ever, always was very cool with me in every way and I appreciated it
Just like someone else said on here (sorry, it’s been a long couple of days) – it sounded like a scorned teeny bopping psycho ex-girlfriend
I was at Matt Patchan’s announcement in Tampa Palms. His parents had no idea where he was going. When he came out and said he was going to the Crocs, his mom started crying … and not tears of happiness that her baby boy was going to college
That kid was snake bit since that announcement. Injuries, random bullets hitting him in a park, injuries, and injuries
South Florida does have a lot of talented kids, absolutely no argument about that – but there are a ton of badasses, esp. badass Canes, that came from outside of Broward/Dade and north of Ft. Myers
I want some kids from the northeast and midwest .. and esp. depending on the position
I’ll take a QB from out of state before I’ll take one from the state of Florida. I like Stevie Morris a lot, but if I’m looking for a QB, I’m going to damn Texas or Penn or NY/NJ or Cali
Anyone tell me how many QBs in the NFL Hall of Fame are from the state of Florida? How about starting QBs in the NFL? How about, name the best QB to come from the state of Florida and put them up against a QB that has come from Texas or Penn or Cali
I’ll place Andrew Luck on the table and put him up against any QB to ever come from the state of Florida
Other skill positions, I’ll take some Florida kids over kids from other states
Gotta go elsewhere for kids as well, can’t just try and get all south Florida kids all the time b/c that sh*t isn’t happening
Six and you are spot on about canes baseball. There are some other things that will be coming out about the baseball program in the coming months that will not be very pleasant.
Duke loses
Like you actually know, cc. Child, please.
Wouldn’t be shocked if she was right. Baseball has been circling the shitter for the last few years now.
Bennie – Canes baseball hasn’t been the same since the Big 3 assistants left. Those 3 made Jim Morris look like a genius
Lazer. Gino. Turtle.
As each left, the program dipped
And finally…..ZAKK….FUK AFRICA AND EUROPE. I don’t give a fuk about EITHER OF THEM. The only GENOME you’ll find in these veins are STARS AND STRIPES. Afros and Euros don’t mean shyt to U.S. Steel. But all they want to do is be American anyway. That’s what happens when you WIN. Don’t believe me? Ask Team Nigeria that got stomped by Team USA in record fashion this past summer.
You sound friggin ridiculous talking about some shyt 400 years ago as if the following 400 years didn’t take place. The following 400 years made the country that sits at the center of the goddam GLOBE- ALL THE BLOOD, ALL THE SACRIFICE, ALL THE SWEAT. And guess what- A WHOLE BUNCH OF SO-CALLED “WHITE PEOPLE” WENT THROUGH THE SAME SHYT.
What? You think it’s easy to make STEEL??
And you talk about these young Americans who don’t have a clue between their ears. Guess what?? IT’S BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT NI88A MENTALITY AND IDENTITY THAT YOU HAVE. Just like MICHELLE OBAMA’S DADDY DID. Which is EXACTLY what that Virginia farmer wanted YOU TO THINK 300 years ago. And like a good, obedient slave you’re still in that “black box”.
So stay in that little bitty black box and watch these boys destroy themselves and try to tell them about Africa….
And don’t get me started on that disgrace in the white house………but you don’t care because this country isn’t yours anyway is it? You’re such an eternal victim you’re just happy to think someone “black” “achieved” something. It makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside….lol
I’m out….
^^The words of a murderer and/or a murderer’s apologist^^
Save all that for your creator. Please don’t attempt to work your treatment thru me unless you are ready to pay the hourly fee.
Just know that your master’s agenda didn’t work on everyone Mr. Anderson (agent from The Matrix)–you are a loyal robot. My posts hit a nerve because they represented defeat for you. They’ll always be resistance, all that murder that you applaud, did nothing. You didn’t win lol! You lost and I know it. You totally misread what I wrote and purposely misrepresented my intentions as well. Only problem is that people can read for themselves and they’re also beginning to think for themselves as well…you lost. The fog is clearing.
### An associate of Mario Cristobal pointed to a significant salary increase as one reason for his interest in the Alabama offensive line coaching job. Cristobal interviewed Friday.
Read more here: http://miamiherald.typepad.com/sports-buzz/#storylink=cpy
^^^We are going to have to start playing with the big boys to be BIG BOYS! I hope Mario stays. #worried
Wow…Zakee is a real crazy person.
100% bonafide psycho
Lawdamercy
Bg1906, you worry too much
Life is good. Even when money talks.
No worries. I. Al we trust. Except with (no)D. I trust Al with him. He sucks.
But with Mario, I trust Al. Don’t worry.
I *do not* trust Al with no(D).
Stupid autocorrect. I wish I could blame this on Vodka but I haven’t had enough tonight.
We should be #2 in the polls after the Puke loss last night.
Just went outside. Damn! It’s nipply out there!
Dress warm my friends.
i was kind of hoping duke’d go undefeated the rest of the way except a loss from U-CANES
. . . but if we lose to them, then it’s good they took this hit
and i’m gonna assume we take care of business at clemson
. . . would hate to see us lose that beautiful “no loss in the ACC” stat; among other things
. . . i want to stay with the “impregnable” feeling for awhile
I just read an article on the herald about the game (so I’m an expert now) and apparently Clemson is a pretty tough place to play.
Go Canes!
Why is it good that Duke lost if we lose to them. I’d figure we want to only lose to dominant world beaters. Maybe I misunderstood.
ummmm . . . i was thinking a loss would cut it close – we’d need to win all the rest of our games; otherwise we’d be tied in the acc standings
. . . but yeah, no other canes losses = i’d also rather lose to a 2-loss duke
We’re undefeated in ACC play so its all about we do at this stage!
Guys Canes need to win out and get a #1 seed that is all that matters. Position yourself strong in the tourney because the season will begin again there.
Fun to see Duke lose because of silly duke fans. If the Canes win out where Duke is ranked is inconsequential.
The Canes remain in the top 5 and they will be a number one seed and again that is all that really matters.
UandO very true. Its going to be interesting how the brackets pan out.. basketball is a game of matchups, hopefully our journey to the final 4 is easier then others. IMO once you get to the final 4 anything can happen
okay, agreed
Hollywood Cole, and you’re sane because you do and believe what you were told. Thats not the definition of sanity my friend. You have never had a thought, made a decision, or acted on your own accord…and totally programmed to hate or question the sanity of anyone who has.
The greatest free-thinkers of all-time were also called “crazy”. Its a defense and deflection for those who don’t have the ability to think for themselves or debate topics without insults, exclamation points and all caps. So your reaction to me is the normal, manufactured response and proves your pedigree. Hear something different: immediately label it crazy to remove any semblance of credibility in it or responsibility to it. Your operating system is strong my friend, you should be very proud. You gloat about your consumption of the strongest of poisons (Vodka) and then turn around and call me “crazy.”
All of this hostility and name-calling because I had the nerve to post that I remembered those who died during slavery. Why are those thoughts so threatening to people? Are you “crazy”, “ridiculous”, or “playing the victim” for remembering the victims of 911, Oklahoma City bombing, Sandy Hook, Pearl Harbor, The World Wars, The Jewish Holocaust etc?
Maybe Tim Wise can help, he may be easier to digest. The intention is unity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZJUa0PJGBY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2ghdirLe7w
Please do not respond to these vids on the blog as its a Cane’s blog and I respect that. Just listen with an open-mind if possible. Or don’t watch at all.
I won’t speak on these issues anymore. Hopefully the name-calling will cease. Peace.
My bag of fucks to give about the above discussion couldn’t be any more empty.
Holy shit what happened to the Canes talk?
The Canes talk is 1 centimeter above it and 300+ blogs before that. I addressed the response to the appropriate partie and it wasn’t you, so just move on. Your comment isn;t canes talk either. Have at it, no one is preventing you. Stop crying and contribute.
this is a canes blog
. . . but no one wants to talk canes 24/7, which is why we all go off-topic all the time
. . . and when people post non-interesting off-topic mails, it’s scroll-time, baby
. . . but some of the least interesting topics on here are the ones that are canes-related but rooted in groundhog-day, can’t-let-the-topic-die mentality
. . . of course, as we love saying, jmo
The good ol early commitment! LOL Kid is coached by Steve Walsh. Not really concerned because its SO EARLY and there are a TON of WRs in state and especially in S. Florida. He’s a good player but if he decommits I don’t think you’ll see the staff make a big deal out of it going back after him.
Will Florida flip Miami commit?
West Palm Beach (Fla.) Cardinal Newman wide receiver Travis Rudolph found out about his Florida offer while on campus Saturday. Apparently Gator wide receiver’s coach Joker Phillips had extended the offer to Rudolph earlier this year but the receiver did not know about it. The 6-foot, 170-pounder has been committed to Miami since June, but after this weekend’s visit, that could change.
“It’s all about what’s the best fit for me,” said Rudolph. “Right now Florida is right up there with Miami, probably even above. To be honest, Florida is above Miami right now. I’m thinking about decommiting from Miami, but I’m still committed right now.”
Rudolph spent much of his time on campus talking to the Florida coaching staff and says his relationship with the coaches is what makes him like UF so much.
“The whole staff is consistent with things and they tell you things straight up,” said Rudolph. “They don’t baby you or beg you to go there. They’re gonna tell you ‘Hey, we can do good with you.’ Me and Coach [Joker] Phillips have a great relationship and we’ve only been talking a couple weeks. We’re building as a good a relationship as any recruiter has ever had with me.”
The wide out added he and his family have been fans of the Gators for quite a while.
“I always was a Florida fan and so was my mom and my sister. I can see myself playing for them.”
re: the rudolph “commitment”
. . . that is funny, bg
Lebron will never be better than Jordan or Kobe simply bc he never participated in a dunk contest let alone win one
Zak, these are serious topics to be sure.
But, this is a canes blog and you seem to have delusions of grandeur.
Funny to see all those pasty-faced Duke fans get pissed. Always great to see them lose.
And I didnt believe it before, but it looks like we’re getting a #1 seed. The field is really weak this year and there really are no dominant teams, meaning its really our year to make a run. Just gotta stay hot going into the tourney and we’ll be fine.
Never thought I see the day when the basketball team was sooooo much better than the football team. Funny thing is that our football team cant at least be decent in a bad football conference, but our basketball team can be the best/2nd best team in a traditionally great conference.
And the funniest thing of all is that Larranaga isn’t even working with a roster full of his own players. I heard on this site that if you dont win immediately its because the existing players on the roster are garbage and cant possibly be salvaged. Well, somebody’s got some explaining to do…
can all of you who are beating your breasts regarding zakkee just go to the corner and breathe deeply for a moment
. . . did you not read cav’s rant??!!
. . . did it not occur to you that his rant would receive a reply?!
just SCROLL, guys, . . . go use your testosterone on something else, like getting laid
PhillyCane says:
February 17, 2013 at 1:17 PM
Lebron will never be better than Jordan or Kobe simply bc he never participated in a dunk contest let alone win one
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Not sure that should be the criteria for GOAT
Autumn
Looks like you’re the one that needs to calm down. Just for the record, I’ll continue to respond as I see fit, you’re free to scroll by and ignore or bitch about my response, if that’s how you feel.
No explanation of comments, no substance for discourse, and never a proposed solution to any issues.
Always cynical dismissals, cliches, insults, name-calling, etc.. baseless bravado, pageantry, projection, deflection, “seeming” never “being”. All unCane-like and swaggerless characteristics.
Cx3, you asked me not to speak your name or respond to your posts, but you just called me crazy in a round about way. Was that a one-sided request?
Y’all been watching too much Days of Our Lives lately.
lol dayton I know this.. obviously tough to tell thru the internet but it was sarcastic but is still some pu$$y shyt
In my opinion spawned from my pops wilt the stilt is the greatest of all time.. tho i like to give him a hard time and say shaq is better
Dude averaged 50 pts 25 rebounds and changed rules to the game. I know its different nowadays with different athletes and people question whether he could play with these type of athletes today. But you have to remember in his time he had to go up against the bill russells and some other dominant bigs and since there was less teams he had to face em more often.
Back to lebron, for the record I think lebron would have eventually won one or two in cleveland just for the fact that everyone else would have got older, celtics, spurs, kobe, dirk… OKC would of been a huge road block though thinking about it
I think an interesting and fun series to watch would be pitting the finals 07 or 08? Cleveland team vs last years OKC or this year OKCs Hardenless team
People forget Bill Russell won 11 ships.
CCC true but didnt he always have stacked teams the only names i can think of though are cousy and havlichek but i swear he had more help
Duke is a bunch of G’s…
Our fans won’t storm the court after we beat UM (or anyone else, for that matter) at Cam Indoor…
We just gonna tell y’all “Good game” and head for showers.
Hurri thats funny I was talkin to my pops today and he was saying Coach K is not as great as a coach as everyone says. One of the points he made is because Duke never overachieves and beat people they shouldnt if anything they underacheive and lose to teams they shouldnt ie. Maryland last night.
I personally hate Duke and so does he. Top 5 hated team for me, but I had to set him straight and told him that Duke never overacheives or beat teams theyr not because 95% of the time they are supposed to win every game they play so there is not even a chance to overachieve..
Or as you mentioned no chance or reason to storm the court bc when they win its expected and not an upset
Never liked a single player EVER that play for dude….NOT ONE!!
Duke bball
Ut vulz
Notre Dame
Boston Celtics
Galatin Greenwave
Lebanon Blue devils
Hate’m ALL!!
Lol
^^^^Played for Duke not dude^^^^^
CanesCanesCanes says:
February 17, 2013 at 4:21 PMPeople forget Bill Russell won 11 ships
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We do. GOAT. And he doesn’t brag about it either.
Philly, Lebron was not winning jack sh#t in Cleveland. No one was coming there to help him out and the only reasons they advanced so far are because of Lebron and defense. I’ve been a big Cavs fan since before Lebron got here and if there is one thing I know about this franchise, its that no great players are coming here via free agency. And please, no one better bring up Larry Hughes.
Besides, Danny Ferry (former Dukie BTW) did such a horrible job with that roster and the draft it was ridiculous. Outside of Daniel Gibson and getting lucky with Varejao, he made very bad decisions with the roster. People really need to understand that Lebron had to overcome playing with nobodies for most of his tenure there.
Look what happened when Kobe and Wade were forced to play with nobodies and tell me who has more impact on their team. You wont be able to. Lebron is a all-in-one type of player.
Better yet, tell me how many titles the Bulls won if Jerry Reinsdorf isn’t the brilliant business mind that he is? Jordan obviously is the GOAT, but it is very convenient how no one ever mentions anything that happened to him or that franchise prior to 1991. He surrounded with nobodies for years until Reinsdorf and their GM, Jerry Krause, got Pippen and Horace Grant in the same draft. From there, it was a wrap.
My point is that Lebron is on pace to be one of the top 5 players of all time easily. He had the most efficient season of any player in NBA history last year and he’s having an even better season this year. Once you surround this man with legit talent he is going to reveal just how dominant he is. And if you dont, it will be the same results as Kobe, Jordan, and Wade had before they were surrounded by anybody decent.
Actual Philly-Phil,
Duke CONSTANTLY overachieves, and it really is coach K that constantly coaches those teams to the level of success that they hav achieved.
We all know the social dynamics of the majority of Duke’s greatest teams…so I won’t even go in to detail…and the fact he has regularly leads them to victory over squads with superior athletes, tells me that it’s coaching/coordinating/scheming…more often than not.
Just at a higher level, when you’re talking about going up against a Kentucky, Kansas, UNC, or whoever.
That’s the reason why when Duke suffers a huge, epic loss, (like the championship loss to UNLV, or the recent disaster vs UM) it’s almost always to teams that have a big athletic advantage.
Think of how Boise State is constantly able to beat the OU’s and VT’s and UGA’s of CFB….It’s a similar comparison, but obviously Duke’s kids at least come in with much higher rankings than BSU’s.
Huge shot for Kadji…Miami Magic continuing on…Can they hold?
WOW . . . glad i stayed up for that!
but mow am i gonna fall asleep now?
it’s 2 a.m. here
GREAT GAME!
Yikes! Go canes!!!!
When does the ‘U TOUGH’ period ends?
lol @ all the asshole nole fans calling me to tell me to kiss the undefeated conference streak goodbye
Wow. I had my doubts with a couple of minutes left.
Sign of a good team…..win a games when your prolly not supposed to win shooting like ish…
I like u C3 had my doubts with 2-3 mins left…. It wouldn’t have been bad loss though..
Agreed. That’s what good teams do, still find a way to win when they play like dyk.
Weird game overall, though. Shooting percentages gotta be in the 30′s for both teams. Funky little arena, too.
I thought that game would be tough. Clemso had a stingy defense coming in. I was worried. Upset alert has been weakened!
Dayton I never said anyone was coming there to help him. I thought Lebron was good enough to win one or two there himself once the likes of spurs, celts etc got older.
Hurri I dont follow the recruiting of college bball, but id have to assume that Duke gets top 10 if not top 5 classes on a yearly basis. And like you said they come in with higher rankings to me that says they are getting talented kids athletic or not.
And just because a player isnt athletic doesnt mean they arent good basketball players. IMO a great example of that is Larry bird, now I realize the birds of the world are few and far between.
To me I just cant see how Duke CONSTANTLY overachieves with top recruiting classes and starting the season off in the top 10 of the preseason polls every other year.
I can see what your saying with players like Laetener or a Dunleavy but then you got Kyrie Irving, Jay Williams, Boozer who arent stiffs either, id say theyr pretty athletic
That’s officially the very first time anyone has ever accused me of doing what I told to do.
I am insulted.
Had to stay up and get the replay of Walking…
Sh!t is getting even more real.
I first I was like, “Ehhhhhhh…”…But now, with every episode, I think I’d dig Micchone out.
I’m complicated…
Philly,
I’m with you 100% on the great player vs great athlete thing.
Paul Pierce has the quick-twitch muscles of a seahorse…but he’s had a HOF career.
But of all the “Traditional Powers” of CBB, maybe only Indiana was won with less athletic players, over the long haul.
I ain’t gonna say what I really wanna say, because I don’t wanna make a insensitive, stereotypical statement, but in short…Coach K still wins with strategy, scheming, experience, and technique, throughout these decades where teams are winning more with the talent and natural ability of 18 & 19yr olds.
Again…Just at a higher level, because many of Duke’s “average athletes” were still highly rated prospects, coming out of HS.
If a DB coach could take Russell Wilson and turn him into a shutdown corner, we’d be like, “Damn, that was a hell of a coaching job, by Coach So-And-So!”
But if that same coach took Peyton Manning, and turned him into a shutdown corner, we’d be like, “Ohhhhhhhhh SH!T..!!!!!! He’s the best defensive back coach in the history of ANYTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG!!”
I think that’s a reasonable analogy. I guess.
I would nominate THAT DB coach for Pope.
Peyton Manning?
Miracle happening! Bring your deaf,dumb and blind. Don’t worry about paying your bills, it’ll all be over soon enough. 2nd coming…
Peyton Manning, lol.
Former Dukie
http://news.yahoo.com/video/former-duke-basketball-player-phil-113000218.html
six – almost forgot to say, keep the posting coming (incl. baseball); never comes across as “ripping the canes”
. . . lol regarding the TOS comments; that’s a type of wierdness i can’t relate to;
i just can not see how that dude could get rid of so many great bloggers??!!!
major “no comprende”
hurri – VERY funny regarding your duke comments!
Twitter intimating bad news coming out today. Bye, bye Mario…
S5 – maybe, maybe not
Maybe it’s also PapaCane BS so if an announcement comes today, he sounds like he has inside sources. If not, he just ignores it. I called him out on it. I have a severe allergy to bull$hit.
I’m assuming you’re referring to this tweet:
“@ByPapaCane: Oh man. You cannot be serious. Hmmm.”
To which I tweeted back:
@CanesX3: @ByPapaCane -If Mario announces today, you sound like u have inside sources. If not, u let this tweet slide. Put it out there, or not at all
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I was born, just not yesterday.
We all know there’s a reasonable chance that Mario leaves if he gets a huge salary bump and gets other promises. It could happen. And it’s likely the announcement would be today or at least this week. So if what you were referring to was Papacane’s tweet, that guy doesn’t know any more than you or I.
CX3 multiple (albeit unreliable) sources/boards have been intimating something, so I was obviously going with a where there is smoke there is fire assumption. Could also be player related, could also be nothing. We will see.
Ok thanks.
I’ve only checked my twitter feed this morning and there’s nothing other than that non-specific tweet I mentioned. I haven’t checked any other boards. But what of you’ve seen, maybe the source is Papa. He has a lot of followers.
imo, if this is going down, initially, the only people that would know would be Mario, his wife, Saban, his AD, Golden, Blake, DS, in that order. Unless those few people are talking to Internet knuckleheads, it won’t get out until it spreads to the SIDs and other athletic dept personnel.
IF Mario leaves, now is the perfect time. I’d prefer today than have him continue to establish relationships over the next several months then go.
Still, it’s very disappointing.
Now ITU reporting Mario was offered by Alabammy. Not sure if I buy this.
On a side note. Do you leave your alma mater, where you are basically a 10 win season away from being head coach, to make a hundred grand more but have to live in freaking Alabama and work for the anti-Christ?
Not me.
Maybe.
Money + career move. Going to Alabama is like going to NFL – almost. If he thinks its better for his long term career plans, he might do it.
He went the loyalty route with FIU and look what it got him.
I still don’t understand why he didn’t take Pitt or Rutgers jobs (I’m assuming he was offered)
CCC if he wasnt a shoe in for the head coaching job here if Golden bolts I could buy all of that.
I just don’t know if I could uproot my kids, move from the only city my family knows, abandon my alma mater and work for a guy like Saban for a move that’s a lateral at best.
Not to mention it means living in AL?
But I understand doing what is best for you. I can respect that.
interesting statistic of the day:
Miami Basketball @CanesHoops
UM has won 7 ACC road games this yr, tying # of regular-season ACC road Ws UM has posted in previous 4 yrs COMBINED
**Recruiting Update 2-17**
by
Peter Ariz
View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Articles Published on 02-17-2013 11:33 PM 53 Comments **Although most of the attention has been put on Sony Michel and Dalvin Cook at the running back position for this upcoming class, FSU commit Joseph Yearby is a name to keep an eye on. Offensive Coordinator James Coley has a close relationship with Yearby back to his days at Florida State, where Yearby has been committed to since his sophomore year. Miami will continue to recruit Cook and Michel, but don’t rule out Yearby as a possibility. I’ve heard that Coley has a close relationship with an individual close to Yearby’s recruitment and Coley has known this man for a number of years so that will help Miami’s chances.
**One of the most talented players in South Florida, the early talk on South Dade WR Tyre Brady is that he will have to go Prep/JUCO even with a good year in the classroom senior year. Some believe he is just as talented as Ermon Lane from Homestead, but Brady has no film because he hasn’t been able to stay on the field for an extended period of time. I’m a huge fan of his ability and hope he can pull it together.
**After receiving a Miami offer a couple weeks ago, I’m told that 2015 ATH JaQuan Johnson is already leaning towards Miami. It might seem ridiculous, but getting Johnson aboard this early would be just what Miami needs. Johnson is a very well-respected kid down here and has a lot of pull with a large number of top prospects over the next two years. He is a natural-born leader who commands respect amongst his peers. Johnson also holds offers from Florida and Clemson.
**Booker T. Washington CB Nigel Patten was offered by Miami this week. Something interesting that came from the offer is that Patten told CanesInSight’s Tito Benach that Miami coaches said they want 3 defensive backs in this class. Some early targets include Michael Johnson, Chris Lammons, Patten, and Kiy Hester (NJ). I know a lot of people are curious about the status of Quincy Wilson and his offer, but at this point I would be surprised if Miami offered. The coaches have seen enough of him by now to make a judgement on whether or not they believe he is Miami caliber and he has come away without an offer even after camping. From seeing him live multiple times, I think Miami is making a mistake by not offering. He has elite size and is extremely physical.
**Miami’s coaching staff made a very smart move by jumping on the Chris Lammons bandwagon early. I had posted his highlights last month when he visited for the first Junior Day and I really like him at corner. The ‘Canes offered last Monday followed by UF, FSU, and Ohio State later in the week. He could also play some slot, but his hands can be inconsistent at times. Miami is the early favorite and I wouldn’t be surprised to see him be the next commitment
and i don’t find it anywhere else, but it surprises no one:
HurricaneSports @hurricanesports
.@caneshoops continuing historic climb #Canes RT @bytimreynolds: It’s official: Miami is the No. 2 team in all the college basketball land.
Several reporting that NCAA announcing @ 2:00 today: the investigation of its investigation
Good sources: AP-Reynolds, PBP, etc
Jerry Buss is dead.
I was born across the street from the Forum and grew up a die hard Laker fan. Guy was Steinbrenner without the crazy.
Sad day for Laker nation.
This news will dramatically decrease coverage of NCAA findings to be announced at 2:00.
Don’t know if thats a good thing or not.
NCAA fired VP of Enforcement..
smillerdegnan:
NCAA to have 2 pm teleconference today to discuss results of inquiry into its own misconduct during #UM investigation.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/colleges/um/#navlink=navbar#storylink=cpy
Yea and she (Roe Lach) was hand picked for her current position by Emmert and is a 14 year employee of the NCAA – but it’s totally believable Emmert was not aware until just a few weeks ago. Can you say Perezgate.
Hurriphin says:
February 18, 2013 at 1:53 AM
If a DB coach could take Russell Wilson and turn him into a shutdown corner, we’d be like, “Damn, that was a hell of a coaching job, by Coach So-And-So!”
But if that same coach took Peyton Manning, and turned him into a shutdown corner, we’d be like, “Ohhhhhhhhh SH!T..!!!!!! He’s the best defensive back coach in the history of ANYTHAAAAAAAAAAAAAANG!!”
I think that’s a reasonable analogy. I guess.
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lol a little over the top with the analogy but i see what your saying. I just think that Coach K def gets the highly rated players making his coaching job easier than say a larranaga at George Mason or a Mark Few of Zaga
Hollywood Cole
Looking like my worries were validated
If Cristobal leaves, meh.
Next man up.
No worries.
If MC has a chance to go work for the best hc in cfb AND get a raise he should go..
Look at how it worked for stoutland…
C.R.E.A.M.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
Loved a Mario and Coley recruiting team but if it doesn’t work out, I’ll live and so will we.
CFB revolves around the Sec right now, like it or not.
His raise will not be 100k if he busts out. No one up roots everything for 50k net.
Dude will get paid and add a fancy title to his resume.
Very tough to compete with.
GO CANEZ!!!!!
okay jsq – time for you to hold our hands and walk us thru this ncaa stuff
. . . then get out your law books and throw ‘em at those bytches (for us)
Bryan Fischer @BryanDFischer
The kicker in all of this: An NCAA investigator purchased a burner phone to communicate with Nevin Shaprio in prison.
SMFH
Canez hit nail on head. Dog eat dog world and anyone not in SEC or big state school is puppy chow .
MC and JC would have been a killer recruiting team but no use crying over spilled milk
MC is not real popular down here right now
This will affect us minimally in recruiting, imo
Josh Appel @JoshAppel
According to reports, Cristobal will get 3x the salary, associate HC, and OL coach position.
It’s going to be a day of reckoning for the NCAA…
Just what I’m hearing.
Looks like NCAA skates
We still have to wait for their NOA and then COI review. Several months, minimum before all this is disposed, and no telling if they try to further hammer us.
So it goes.
bg1906 says:
February 18, 2013 at 12:53 PMHollywood Cole
Looking like my worries were validated
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BG, you worry way too much. Just relax.
“Yes, the NCAA used a burner phone to call Nevin Shapiro in prison. And paid Shapiro himself, their star witness, $4,500 for his cooperation.
It’s time for the death penalty.”
Read more: http://deadspin.com/5985097/the-ncaa-has-a-lack-of-institutional-control
You can’t make this shit up. In their zeal to get at us the NCAA using burner phones to communicate with dyk slurper Shapiro and paying him directly. Probably so he could buy more butt lube.
If this was any court in America the case would prolly be thrown from the Gables to Mars and the prosecuting attorney would lose their license…
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21727094/ncaa-guilty-of-lack-of-institutional-control-emmert-must-pay-with-his-job
^^^^^^
Pot meet kettle…
Lol
Delray.
We can’t compete with them $$$. I knew that. The only hope was that they liked someone better. NO WAY were we going to win if they offered. Game, Set, MATCH!
Bg1906
Miami can’t compete with “I’ll triple your salary” but the real shame is he really pissed off a lot of people.
To say I don’t blame him for leaving to make more money overshadows the fact that he really showed an intense lack of judgement by taking a job (Miami’s) before weighing all of his options and ultimately leaving 5 weeks in.
That leaves a lot of plans that were falling into place in limbo and it really makes Miami look like a second class organization. Maybe it is.
Mario will move on and do very well for himself. Miami will be just fine without him. Still, he is definitely leaving a very poor taste in a lot of people’s mouths.
And when I say WORRY its not about WHO but the WHAT. We have NCAA over us, coaching turnover, just a lot of hits to take when we FINALLY had the roster starting to look like it can do some damage. That is all. Just want some stability and get rid of the negative hits. Just ready to go forward and just play with a full deck.
Nash – here’s a quote from that Dodd article:
“Oh, and the Kansas City attorney (Jon Duncan) charged with oversight of the enforcement department cleanup, is currently representing the NCAA in a nine-year old case against a former Buffalo basketball coach. How’s that for objectivity?”
http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/blog/dennis-dodd/21727094/ncaa-guilty-of-lack-of-institutional-control-emmert-must-pay-with-his-job
Emmert and the NCAA have lost their damn minds.
He should be fired.
The NCAA will be sued.
They can have a lack of institutional control but the athletic programs under their umbrella have to abide by their rules?
Very interesting.
Looks like Emmert and his crew better buckle up.
Internal investigations usually equals cover up or explain away or excuse the ish you found…
Lol
bg1906 says:
February 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM
And when I say WORRY its not about WHO but the WHAT. We have NCAA over us, coaching turnover, just a lot of hits to take when we FINALLY had the roster starting to look like it can do some damage. That is all. Just want some stability and get rid of the negative hits. Just ready to go forward and just play with a full deck.
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True. Do you think this move opens up an opportunity for Coach Lockette or Bennett?
UMO
Don’t know what to think at this point. Anything is possible.
They seemed to have been prepared. Colin McCarthy tweeted this and is defending it
Jake Byrne as new TE coach for The U!!!!!
bg1906
February 18, 2013 at 5:02 PM
UMO
Don’t know what to think at this point. Anything is possible.
^^^^^^^^^
Percy Pringle (what up Cal) back to te coach…
LT36 come on home
McCarthy seems sure but the ONLY Jake Byrne I could find is a former player for Wisky. We’ll see
Bg
Jake was a long snapper and tight end. I think he graduated in 2008.
He has an MBA and appears to have a decent job in insurance/risk management
I think Colin may be clowning, but you never know
I remember him being really tall & skinny for a snapper but I don’t think he ever muffed one.
Anybody hear Feldman on qam??
Wondering what he had to say about today’s NCAA news?
http://www.miami.edu/index.php/news/releases/um_responds_to_statement_on_ncaa_investigation/
Shalala: “The University takes full responsibility for the conduct of its employees and student-athletes.”
Shots fired!!!!!
Bitch just drew a line in the sand.
And I say bitch lovingly and with respect.
Go get ‘em, Donna!
your move NCAA, or we will see you in court!
your move NCAA, or we will see you in court! thanks Donna
CanesCanesCanes
February 18, 2013 at 6:34 PM
Bitch just drew a line in the sand.
And I say bitch lovingly and with respect.
^^^^^^^
http://youtu.be/rMa0awGNiq4
Sh!t’s about to get real. It’s definitely on.
Donna has been getting legal advise from JSQ! Time served, nothing less, nothing more!
Donna laying the smackdown on the NCAA.
Love the Donna Fire! Go get ‘em!
‘Bama must love them some Canes coaches
Can’t blame Mario at all. ‘Bama runs the NCAA & Tuscaloosa is Title Town in College Football the past 4 years and counting. The beast machine that Saban has built isn’t slowing down for a long long time
Six u talking outta your Azz. F Cristobal this is pure fuckery.
Can’t deny what Bammer has done.
But I’ll be gdmmed if I start swinging off Saban’s sack
F Saban, F the NCAA, F the SEC
I’m sick of all of them
Say it with me, six. F ‘em all
Six isn’t always right but he’s spot on, on this one.
On to the next one and good for Cristobal… Hell it got “How many starts do we have”Stoutland an NFL paycheck.
Good for Mario and come on back when/if Golden makes his Harbaugh like NFL leap.
To people who say MC should’ve weighed all his options prior to taking the Miami job, was Stoutland still at bama then? Yes, so that wasn’t an opportunity then.
The U for players AND coaches has always been a launching pad. Do what’s right for you and yours, always U family.
But bama will start to slide. Inevitable rise and fall of empires. If not, some sour Dolphin fans will have to live with the Saban legend turning into Lombardi like status.
As a Dolphin fan I don’t see what the big deal was. He didn’t want to be there. Then, I don’t want you there. When Pettrino left the Falcons a couple years later that showed how (relatively speaking, in this coaching world) honorable Sabans exit from the Dolphins was.
Don’t get sucked in by the bitter media types, “he lied to us” they cried.
The season was still going on. He didnt quit on his team.
As always, JMO.
DZ8
February 18, 2013 at 11:13 PM
Good for Mario and come on back when/if Golden makes his Harbaugh like NFL leap.
^^^^^^^^
No disrespect but….
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2009/7/25/1248560060646/Drug-addict-smoking-a-cra-001.jpg
Lol
Lol, was that me or Cristobal? Looked like a fat Cuban roll… This is my bg personality.
Let them go…
Those that don’t want to or are floored with an offer.
Let them go…
That was a crack pipe not a rolled Cuban blunt!
Not right, put the kids away.
All good Nash… If you remember I was the one who wrote the year 2=national championships post. Don’t know that Golden will make the NFL jump.
So, puff, puff, give….
It’s not a microphone.
God Bless Ozzy Osbourne!
bg1906 says:
February 18, 2013 at 4:01 PM
. . . We have NCAA over us, coaching turnover, just a lot of hits to take when we FINALLY had the roster starting to look like it can do some damage. That is all. Just want some stability and get rid of the negative hits. Just ready to go forward and just play with a full deck.
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this is how i feel, bg
. . . together with the disagreeable feeling in the stomach, that d'no is probably the wrong person for d-coordinator for us
dz8 – agree with everything you said regarding both mario & saban
. . . and i’m glad to be doing the “f ‘em all” chant with triple c
. . . and i’d love if shalala would bring us our 6th ring by crushing the ncaa in the legal finals game
DZ8 says:
February 19, 2013 at 1:00 AM
God Bless Ozzy Osbourne!
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i guess he's close enough to "magical mystery tour" for you to go there
I could never live in Alabama, Orlando is my limit of “the South” but I am quite sure Mario could not pass up the money or the title in AL. Kids are damn expensive and the expenses never end.
I like fighting Donna, to me a little late but the NCAA has finally pushed her buttons. Go Donna!
They way I read their “investigation” (complete joke) the NCAA says, “yeah we did some things wrong but oh well we still are going forward.” Just a joke.
Time to start dismantling this entire NCAA farce.
U of O, UCF and Miami should get together and sue their smug assess.
i think allcanes has the best cristobal response (similar to several already voiced n here):
http://blog.allcanes.com/mario-cristobal-miami-hurricanes-alabama-crimson-tide
funny picture from allcanes (“the dons”):
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151631081909017&l=2e1fe5ac89
Good stuff autumn…
And I had no idea Ozzy was drinking and on drugs during that Osbourne show. Shocking!
Gotta run now, someone has a bridge in Brooklyn they’ll sell me cheap!
Has anyone else noticed what little attention ESPN is giving this story?
Ridiculously in the SEC’s pocket.
Keep us down so they can come poach the best players down here.
Pb I saw a quick blurb on espn yesterday but if you check their website they have a couple articles basically saying the ncaa is a joke
Then they had Mike and Mike talkin about and had Jay Bilas on this morn saying it was a joke as well
Alonzo Highsmith @alonzohighsmith
On my way to Indy for the combine and does anyone want me to go over to the NCAA and give Emmert a message from Miami !!!
Yes, PB, they have mentioned it, not as much as I would like, certainly not as much as back in 2011 when they went ape-sh!t over our unsubstantiated allegations.
I don’t think this is because of an anti-Miami or pro-SEC agenda, even if they had this type of agenda (that’s another discussion). As you well know, story coverage determinations are based on what they think drives eyeballs and therefore advertising revenue.
While this is newsworthy enough to include in coverage, I’m pretty sure there are other stories which generate more eyeballs. Or at least that’s what they’ve determined. Bottom line, they’re giving what they think is the appropriate coverage to meet their business objectives.
The mistake I always used to make is to think of them in any way, shape, or form, as any kind of news organization. They’re pure entertainment, imo
Very good write up / analysis !!
http://sebastianspub.wordpress.com/2013/02/18/ncaas-sham-investigation-morally-corrupt-culture-finally-pushes-miami-over-the-edge/
While all of these articles and insightful and mostly well-written, all they are mostly is opinion pieces and conjecture about what the NCAA ought to do. What I’m really concerned about is what will they (the NCAA) actually do? I have read enough articles on this topic, I am just anxious to see what their next move will be. I wonder how they will respond to Shalala’s statement.
You know me, I’m the first one to say if there isn’t a “U” on the helmet or an old english “M” on the hat, then f*ck them and everything about them …
I don’t even root for teams in bowl games if they aren’t the Canes (I do admittedly have a soft spot for Stanford, I won’t lie) – or esp. don’t root for a damn conference
I call it like I see it. ‘Bama is the best there is right now. No one can deny that. 3 titles in 4 years and that’s even with a pretty damn big turnover in losing kids to the draft. Saban, hate him as much as you want, wish as much bad joo-joo on him – the guy is a f*cking good coach. If Calvin were here, he’d bring up how his record against Spurrier blows – but if you can take two different SEC teams and win National Championships with them – that’s insane. He will go down as one of the greatest college coaches of all-time, simply b/c of the rings he’ll acquire
I don’t really give a damn about how many wins you rack up b/c if you keep coaching until your program has to pull a “Weekend At Bernie’s” with you, rolling you out there to stand on the sidelines, not even remembering the names of the kids on your own team – ya, chances are you’re going to put some numbers in the “W” column …… but how many titles does Bobby or Dead Joe have? Combined?
I don’t blame Mario. How many out there, if offered a job with double or even triple your current salary, being offered to have a high position as part of the current best company in the nation (and not looking like it will slow down any time soon) – would turn that down? Come on
JSK just left
If anyone wants to write something on yesterday’s happenings, be my guest.
I’ll just be watching the mailbox for my bar admission letter…
IMO the NCAA is moving forward to nail individual coaches involved for what they feel are major violations.
There is no precedent to inidcate we will get much more tha nwhat we have given ourselves already.
But doing that with any type of a straight face after the blantant and encouraged rule violations by the NCAA themselves is opening them up for lawsuits they absolutely don’t want to mess with.
Nail Frank Haith for not promoting a sense of compliance after their head of enforcement purposely disregarded advice from their legal team about hiring Perez?
Talk about a double standard.
Repuslive, hypocritical and most importantly…alarming. The fact they are moving forward shows they don’t care what ANYONE thinks.
BoriCane, where did you find that one?
Good find, I like that he agrees with my analysis that they will still throw the book at us based on the 80% remaining, and the “hidden” 20% will still be known to everyone involved in the penalty phase.
IMO I think MC situation depends on one’s personal situation and morals. Not every case is cut and dry for every individual. There are too many factors that go into a decision like this to say whether he turned his back on Miami or made the right decision.
What would I do? I love the U, I dont know how much the pay raise was but Id personally want to stay in Miami and help win a national championship there then make the job jump esp in these times of peril. While thats easier said then done, does he really need the extra money or bama on his resume right now? That I do not know and thats why I cannot judge
My intital reaction of Mario leaving was wtf because we were excited to have him back home and he is a great recruiter.. but my opinion of MC the man is unchanged bc he did what he felt is best for him and his family and i can respect that
Jay Bilas absoltely shredding the NCAA and it’s clown of a President:
https://twitter.com/JayBilas
Pb, is that you volunteering to write an article?????? Pleaaaaaaaaase!!!
CO,
It was mentioned / posted in canesinsight,
http://canesinsight.com/showthread.php/49684-Excellent-blog-on-NCAA
Maybe MC saw the $500K James Coley was getting for OC duties and figured, “well shit, I’m a former head coach with ties to So. Fla recruiting…why shouldn’t I be getting as much if not more than JC” I blame Jeff Stoutland
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/18/miami-statement-ncaa-investigation-wronged_n_2713344.html
Tim Reynolds
Thanks Boricane.
If anyone says they would turn down a job that offers a minimum of double the money, more prestige, unlimited resources and the ability to work with an industry leader, I have to assume you are drunk of your azz on the orange and green kool aid.
Mario’s love for the U does not change with this decision. In fact, IMO it better positions him for a future HC gig with us, since when you fire the head guy, usually you clean house along with it.
Am I happy about it? Nope. But is what it is. Straight cash homie!
And with all this NCAA biz, I say better to expect the least logical thing to happen, because history so far hasn’t indicated otherwise.
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=8962058
Stephen A Smith agrees with Donna
Y’all are just getting a continuation of the countdown because I don’t care to be the 17th person to write on the NCAA shiz. Broken record.
I’ll have something up shortly.
new blog up